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I've been having some arguments when reviewing good article candidates about the structure of railway station articles, specifically how they handle the present and history. The obvious way to handle articles is to do it in chronological order - start with the first opening and work forward in time from there. However I find that this buries what must be the most important part of an article - what it's like right now. Details about, say, the platform layout of a tube station, may be hidden amongst several paragraphs worth of history, and are very difficult to pick out. My general preferred layout is:
Do we have any structural guidelines for how to lay out a station article? If not, should we create some? I'm also interested in how to apply this to a disused station, as clearly the services section doesn't apply and for many the description would be "it's not there anymore". While usually the description of a disused station would be the last bit of the history section, for stations where the line has since been reopened this doesn't work so well as there's significant post-closure history of the site. - mattbuck ( Talk) 13:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
{{
Rail line}}
so that it can be incorporated into {{
Infobox station}}
, thereby creating the possibility for our infoboxes to become like the US ones. I can see this becoming as problematic as the creation of the parameter allowing for the rdt to be hidden in the infobox.
Lamberhurst (
talk) 09:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC)- mattbuck ( Talk) 14:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know where I can get a photo showing the true extent of the Glenesk Bridge in Dalkeith? I am so far only able to find pictures on the top of the bridge and not beneath it or from nearby. I am trying to write a basic article on it. Thanks. Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 16:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Flying Scotsman first steam locomotive to 100mph? I'm pretty sure it wasn't. Doesn't that honour fall to City of Truro? Mjroots ( talk) 13:23, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
We have some users, such as Tempest3K ( talk · contribs) and MadSquirrel ( talk · contribs) that believe that the information on the preserved HST prototype should be included in British Rail Class 43 (HST) and (apparently) not in British Rail Class 41 (HST). HJ Mitchell ( talk · contribs), you mentioned that you wanted to go through these articles properly, how about it? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 22:54, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone have time to stand back and take an overview of Great Western Railway (train operating company)? It seems to have accumulated a lot of cruft, unsourced in some cases, as well as some material that seems to me to violate WP:NOTTIMETABLE. I don't really have time to get to grips with it properly, plus I am not absolutely certain what the ideal TOC article should look like. -- Alarics ( talk) 14:18, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
You might like to comment on the renaming discussion going on at Talk:Pomona (Manchester) Metrolink station#Requested move 11 December 2015. G-13114 ( talk) 09:40, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion underway regarding deletion of the newly created BR Standard 4 2-6-0 76084 article. Please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 16:28, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
The 2014/15 statistics will be released on Tuesday. Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 21:16, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Well anyway, the parameters have been added now. Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 14:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
And yes, the statistics are now out, so if we could all pitch in and do a few stations then hopefully we can get most of the stations sorted out fairly soon. http://orr.gov.uk/statistics/published-stats/station-usage-estimates Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 17:09, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay, now the link is down. Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 15:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Waterhouses (County Durham) railway station is proposed for merging to Waterhouses, County Durham. Please discuss at Talk:Waterhouses, County Durham#Merger Discussion. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 23:11, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I would suggest that people here take a look at the discussion going on at Template_talk:Infobox_GB_station#Usage_section. Your input would be useful. Specifically, the proposal that was rejected here a few years ago to remove all but this year's station usage figures has been revived. G-13114 ( talk) 22:55, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
I think some of the long tables at the Birmingham Corporation Tramways article could do with being collapsed (specifically the tram fleet one) but I have no idea how to do it. Does anyone here know how to collapse them? G-13114 ( talk) 23:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
For info: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hainault depot -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 01:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
The South Eastern Main Line is closed between Dover and Folkestone due to damage to the sea wall. This is likely to last until at least the end of February. Should the two RDTs covering the SEML be altered to reflect this? Mjroots ( talk) 20:18, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Long term = 6mo + sounds reasonable. Mjroots ( talk) 23:25, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
FYI, Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Northern Railways. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 00:20, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Of late many articles seem to be acquiring lists, sometimes very long lists, of accidents, not only the Railway company home pages but also individual classes of locomotive, probably other places too. Is there an argument to suggest that these are over dominating the topics? The notability of Rail accidents is undeniable, but these lists do seem to be unbalancing the articles. Would it be better simply to have links to lists of accidents under a reasonable number of categories rather than the lists in so many places? It seems to me to does give the impression that most interesting thing about railways is railway accidents, which might well be true of the red top press, but maybe not ideal for a balanced encyclopedia. 212.159.44.170 ( talk) 14:21, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Done
Any idea where these are? - mattbuck ( Talk) 13:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
With the deletion of York & Selby Lines, it's unclear to me what we call the line between Leeds and Church Fenton. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 13:45, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Presuming these lines have been covered by Mitchell & Smith, what titles are they covered under? Mjroots ( talk) 23:01, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Relatedly, the National Rail designation says that Leeds-Micklefield-Scarborough is the " York Line". We don't really have coverage for Church Fenton-York (not a large section), but the northern piece is covered by York to Scarborough Line. Mackensen (talk) 13:22, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
The ORR refers to stations like Cross Gates, Garforth and Micklefield as being on the Leeds to Colton Junction Line, the line that branches off towards South Milford, Selby etc as on the Hull to Micklefield Line and Church Fenton and Ulleskelf also on the the Colton Junction Line (at least, according to the latest 2014/15 usage document before it was taken down). Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 17:17, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I've created a stub at Selby Line and linked back to it from the stations in question. Mackensen (talk) 23:45, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
The Lickey Incline on the Birmingham and Gloucester Railway was worked by American Noble 2-4-0 steam locomotives from the 1840s (despite Brunel & Stevenson saying it couldn’t be done); see Norris Locomotive Works. But was the Likey Incline (1 in 37.7) ever worked as a cable railway as was oriinally envisaged when the line was authorised in 1836? Neither article is specific. And when was the railway opened from end to end? The Belmont Plane on a Pennsylvanian canal was sucessfully demonstrated in 1836 though there was still scepticism that locomotives could operate on an incline (of 1 in 15?). Hugo999 ( talk) 10:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Are the interchange statistics really necessary for stations? It makes the infoboxes very difficult to read and build up an idea of what is going on. It's not particularly relevant for most people who just want to know how busy a local/often visited station is and want to know what the trend is. Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 17:14, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
I have added this discussion to Template talk:Infobox GB station Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 18:18, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
I've started a debate on what should be included in the Urban rail article. Please see Talk:Urban rail in the United Kingdom#Other networks. Simply south .... .. time, department skies for just 9 years 12:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
A proposal has been made to rename all Manchester Metrolink stations from the 'X Metrolink station' format to the 'X tram stop' format. A discussion is being held at Talk:Manchester Metrolink#Metrolink station renaming proposal.. G-13114 ( talk) 14:59, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Any idea wich station? Not a Scottisch one as the SPT livery would suggest. This was taken with a rail trip around Manchester. I suspect we made an excursion to the Hadfield/Glossop line. One hour earlier these pictures were taken ( File:Close to Manchester (1).jpg, thumb, File:Close to Manchester (1).jpg). I put a question about these pictures in the Village Commons. Smiley.toerist ( talk) 12:05, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
It would appear Cross Country Route has reached the transclusion limit (presumably due to the map). Looks like we'll have to hive the diagram off to another page and create a reduced version or something. - mattbuck ( Talk) 23:57, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
{{
rws}}
. --
Redrose64 (
talk) 14:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I created a new category in the Commons as the (2008 in rail transport in the United Kingdom) is getting quite large. I reduced it a bit by moving some to the London subcategories (main stations). Maybe some other subcategories should be created. 2008 on the London Overground? The other later years are also big and should tackled. I prefer a systematic approach. Smiley.toerist ( talk) 12:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Rodw brought this article to my attention as needing inline citations. Frankly it's barely an article at all currently, but I was wondering whether it even should be. The only place I've ever heard it mentioned is by the CRP. The track it covers is, apart from Castle Cary to Upwey, is entirely subsumed by the Wessex Main Line and the Berks & Hants Line. Does anyone know when the term "Heart of Wessex Line" came in to being? Is there a different name for the Castle Cary to Weymouth bit we should be using? - mattbuck ( Talk) 21:15, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
You might like to take a look at the discussion here: Talk:Supertram_(Sheffield)#Requested_move_23_January_2016. G-13114 ( talk) 11:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I have been working on an article about Davyhulme Sewage Works, which had an internal railway from the 1890s until 1958. Details are mentioned in the text, and details of the 17 locomotives used are included in their own section. Should I add the article to WikiProject UK Railways, and if so, which banner do I use? Bob1960evens ( talk) 18:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi, this drive-by edit of Reculver was intended to "fix" a link to South Eastern Railway, UK, by changing it to " South Eastern Railway, United Kingdom". I'm sure it was just a slip-up, but it did prompt me to think about whether "South Eastern Railway, UK", is the best name for that article. Looking at two examples that occurred to me – South Eastern Railway and North Eastern Railway – I wonder if it shouldn't be moved to " South Eastern Railway (United Kingdom)". But I've virtually zero experience in handling railway articles, I'm just putting it out there for the sake of consistency. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 12:46, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Can anyone identify the livery of this DMU on the Chesterfield/Rotherham line sometime in the 1980s? Lamberhurst ( talk) 23:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I seem to remember that there was a convention somewhere that if we needed to disambiguate a station, the brackets should go in the middle of the name rather than the end. E.g. Earlswood (West Midlands) railway station, rather than Earlswood railway station (West Midlands). But I can't find that convention anywhere. Just the subject has come up at Talk:Haymarket (Edinburgh) station. G-13114 ( talk) 19:29, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
You might like to see the discussion at Talk:Haymarket railway station#Naming.
Basically, as the new Edinburgh Trams had opened a new tram stop right outside the station, also called Haymarket, I thought it should be treated as a multi-modal station, in the same vein as West Croydon station, and moved the article to Haymarket (Edinburgh) station, as the Haymarket station space was already in use, and it was in line with the article disambiguation conventions. But someone yesterday objected, and moved it back to Haymarket railway station. So your thoughts would be appreciated on the talk page. G-13114 ( talk) 13:34, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
See Talk:LNWR George the Fifth Class#John Hick. I can't get the idea of WP:NOR in tandem with WP:V across here. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 22:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
The deleted Sheffield to Hull Line claimed the following segments:
Doncaster-Swinton is a mystery. There are just two open stations: Conisbrough and Mexborough. The ORR usage report groups them with "Swinton - Brocklesby Jcn", which includes the South Humberside Main Line to Barnetby. Various Network Rail documents [6] [7] refer to this as "Doncaster South Yorkshire Junction to Swinton Junction" but this is more descriptive than a proper name. Mackensen (talk) 19:44, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
It would be conjectural and descriptive, but how about Swinton to Doncaster Line, describing the entire piece? That would at least group the related content in the same place, and could be easily renamed if a more official name is discovered? Mackensen (talk) 13:26, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I've created it, and left a note on Talk:Swinton to Doncaster Line linking back to this discussion. Mackensen (talk) 13:29, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Please can an admin have a look at Great Grimsby Street Tramways where text taken from Grimsby District Light Railway (where it had been since 2006) has been deleted as a copyvio on the basis that a page on a wiki-clone site created since 2007 had the same text. Full details on the talk page of the first article. As a non-admin I can't undo the deletion by an admin who didn't bother to reply to the message on the talk page. It would be a shame to lose the text wrongly expunged. Lamberhurst ( talk) 19:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I was advised to seek advice and opinions here about Talk:London Trams#Name of the organisation. The main question is whether there should be an article on TfL's tram operations, separate from the one on Tramlink. Thanks. wctaiwan ( talk) 23:28, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Should we indicate the current use of a station building? RThompson82 ( talk · contribs) insists that we do, yet seems unwilling to source it, and gave this reaction to my request on their talk page. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 00:56, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
FYI, Talk:Haverhill railway station#Requested move 9 February 2016. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 21:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Per the earlier consensus established either here or at TWP, I've redrawn the two RDTs covering the SEML to show the line as closed between Folkestone and Dover. Apparently the original wooden viaduct has rotted after a mere 170 years and the whole of that stretch of line will need to be rebuilt. This means that the line will have been closed in excess of 6 months by the time it reopens.
Now, where can I find an image of the original wooden viaduct before it was infilled. Sure I've seen one in a book somewhere. Mjroots ( talk) 18:47, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
FYI, Talk:Central line#Requested move 21 February 2016. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 10:28, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Some help is need in dating images see: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Flicker_images_of_trains_in_Oxford. Smiley.toerist ( talk) 11:16, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
You might like to take a look at my comments at Talk:Oldham Mumps tram stop#Article split. G-13114 ( talk) 12:06, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Currently, we have three separate articles ( British Rail Class 201, British Rail Class 202 and British Rail Class 203) on the Hastings Units. I think that the could be much better handled by a single article covering all three classes, which were treated as one by BR for operational purposes. Raising for discussion, thoughts, comments and suggestions. Mjroots ( talk) 11:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Class | Routes | Max speed | Built | Cars | 1982 | 1986 | 1994 |
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201 | Hastings Line | 90mph | 1957 | 6 | Not shown | Not shown | 0 units |
202 | Hastings Line (with Buffet car) | 90mph | 1957 | 6 | 6 units | 6 units | 0 units |
203 | Hastings Line | 90mph | 1957 | 5 | 4 units | 4 units | 0 units |
204 | Hastings Line | 90mph | 1957 | 5 | 12 units | 12 units | 0 units |
I've made a start. Please restrain yourselves from editing the article for now. I'll expand the article more tomorrow. Mjroots ( talk) 22:20, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Could I ask project members to look over this new article to make sure I haven't made any omissions, errors of fact or interpretation. Any and all edits welcome! I will be finishing it off tonight. Thx, Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:18, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
The table of stock types seems to omit loco-hauled coaching stock. This was used on several routes before new multiple units were built. Geof Sheppard ( talk) 13:44, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Sir Anthony Hidden , QC has died. Seems to me that he is notable enough to have an article. Mjroots ( talk) 19:18, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
I have just found photos have been removed from Woodbridge and Melton station pages all of which I felt helped illustrate the nature of those stations. Is this a decision that has been made in Wikipedia I am unaware of or has the editor decided unilaterally that they should be removed? -- Davidvaughanwells ( talk) 22:21, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
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commons category}}
template in the last section. --
Redrose64 (
talk) 23:33, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
BU Rob13 ( talk · contribs) is apparently embarking on a crusade to delete RDTs that are only used on single pages: WP:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 March 20. Useddenim ( talk) 23:06, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
I have started a discussion about " BSn templates for use and BSn templates for substitution" at Wikipedia_talk:Route_diagram_template. Your opinion is welcome. Pldx1 ( talk) 10:22, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
I am trying to ascertain the position of the original Lewisham station. Until today I always thought the existing station was the original but the copy of the 1857 accident report ( http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/BoT_Lewisham1857.pdf) suggests its between the new (present) station and Blackheath. I am assuming it was located on the other side of the Lewisham Road bridge but would appreciate confirmation (with source?).-- Davidvaughanwells ( talk) 21:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
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I've been having some arguments when reviewing good article candidates about the structure of railway station articles, specifically how they handle the present and history. The obvious way to handle articles is to do it in chronological order - start with the first opening and work forward in time from there. However I find that this buries what must be the most important part of an article - what it's like right now. Details about, say, the platform layout of a tube station, may be hidden amongst several paragraphs worth of history, and are very difficult to pick out. My general preferred layout is:
Do we have any structural guidelines for how to lay out a station article? If not, should we create some? I'm also interested in how to apply this to a disused station, as clearly the services section doesn't apply and for many the description would be "it's not there anymore". While usually the description of a disused station would be the last bit of the history section, for stations where the line has since been reopened this doesn't work so well as there's significant post-closure history of the site. - mattbuck ( Talk) 13:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
{{
Rail line}}
so that it can be incorporated into {{
Infobox station}}
, thereby creating the possibility for our infoboxes to become like the US ones. I can see this becoming as problematic as the creation of the parameter allowing for the rdt to be hidden in the infobox.
Lamberhurst (
talk) 09:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC)- mattbuck ( Talk) 14:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know where I can get a photo showing the true extent of the Glenesk Bridge in Dalkeith? I am so far only able to find pictures on the top of the bridge and not beneath it or from nearby. I am trying to write a basic article on it. Thanks. Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 16:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Flying Scotsman first steam locomotive to 100mph? I'm pretty sure it wasn't. Doesn't that honour fall to City of Truro? Mjroots ( talk) 13:23, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
We have some users, such as Tempest3K ( talk · contribs) and MadSquirrel ( talk · contribs) that believe that the information on the preserved HST prototype should be included in British Rail Class 43 (HST) and (apparently) not in British Rail Class 41 (HST). HJ Mitchell ( talk · contribs), you mentioned that you wanted to go through these articles properly, how about it? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 22:54, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone have time to stand back and take an overview of Great Western Railway (train operating company)? It seems to have accumulated a lot of cruft, unsourced in some cases, as well as some material that seems to me to violate WP:NOTTIMETABLE. I don't really have time to get to grips with it properly, plus I am not absolutely certain what the ideal TOC article should look like. -- Alarics ( talk) 14:18, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
You might like to comment on the renaming discussion going on at Talk:Pomona (Manchester) Metrolink station#Requested move 11 December 2015. G-13114 ( talk) 09:40, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion underway regarding deletion of the newly created BR Standard 4 2-6-0 76084 article. Please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 16:28, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
The 2014/15 statistics will be released on Tuesday. Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 21:16, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Well anyway, the parameters have been added now. Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 14:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
And yes, the statistics are now out, so if we could all pitch in and do a few stations then hopefully we can get most of the stations sorted out fairly soon. http://orr.gov.uk/statistics/published-stats/station-usage-estimates Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 17:09, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay, now the link is down. Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 15:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Waterhouses (County Durham) railway station is proposed for merging to Waterhouses, County Durham. Please discuss at Talk:Waterhouses, County Durham#Merger Discussion. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 23:11, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I would suggest that people here take a look at the discussion going on at Template_talk:Infobox_GB_station#Usage_section. Your input would be useful. Specifically, the proposal that was rejected here a few years ago to remove all but this year's station usage figures has been revived. G-13114 ( talk) 22:55, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
I think some of the long tables at the Birmingham Corporation Tramways article could do with being collapsed (specifically the tram fleet one) but I have no idea how to do it. Does anyone here know how to collapse them? G-13114 ( talk) 23:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
For info: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hainault depot -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 01:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
The South Eastern Main Line is closed between Dover and Folkestone due to damage to the sea wall. This is likely to last until at least the end of February. Should the two RDTs covering the SEML be altered to reflect this? Mjroots ( talk) 20:18, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Long term = 6mo + sounds reasonable. Mjroots ( talk) 23:25, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
FYI, Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Northern Railways. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 00:20, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Of late many articles seem to be acquiring lists, sometimes very long lists, of accidents, not only the Railway company home pages but also individual classes of locomotive, probably other places too. Is there an argument to suggest that these are over dominating the topics? The notability of Rail accidents is undeniable, but these lists do seem to be unbalancing the articles. Would it be better simply to have links to lists of accidents under a reasonable number of categories rather than the lists in so many places? It seems to me to does give the impression that most interesting thing about railways is railway accidents, which might well be true of the red top press, but maybe not ideal for a balanced encyclopedia. 212.159.44.170 ( talk) 14:21, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Done
Any idea where these are? - mattbuck ( Talk) 13:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
With the deletion of York & Selby Lines, it's unclear to me what we call the line between Leeds and Church Fenton. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 13:45, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Presuming these lines have been covered by Mitchell & Smith, what titles are they covered under? Mjroots ( talk) 23:01, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Relatedly, the National Rail designation says that Leeds-Micklefield-Scarborough is the " York Line". We don't really have coverage for Church Fenton-York (not a large section), but the northern piece is covered by York to Scarborough Line. Mackensen (talk) 13:22, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
The ORR refers to stations like Cross Gates, Garforth and Micklefield as being on the Leeds to Colton Junction Line, the line that branches off towards South Milford, Selby etc as on the Hull to Micklefield Line and Church Fenton and Ulleskelf also on the the Colton Junction Line (at least, according to the latest 2014/15 usage document before it was taken down). Simply south .... .. time, deparment skies for just 9 years 17:17, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I've created a stub at Selby Line and linked back to it from the stations in question. Mackensen (talk) 23:45, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
The Lickey Incline on the Birmingham and Gloucester Railway was worked by American Noble 2-4-0 steam locomotives from the 1840s (despite Brunel & Stevenson saying it couldn’t be done); see Norris Locomotive Works. But was the Likey Incline (1 in 37.7) ever worked as a cable railway as was oriinally envisaged when the line was authorised in 1836? Neither article is specific. And when was the railway opened from end to end? The Belmont Plane on a Pennsylvanian canal was sucessfully demonstrated in 1836 though there was still scepticism that locomotives could operate on an incline (of 1 in 15?). Hugo999 ( talk) 10:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Are the interchange statistics really necessary for stations? It makes the infoboxes very difficult to read and build up an idea of what is going on. It's not particularly relevant for most people who just want to know how busy a local/often visited station is and want to know what the trend is. Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 17:14, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
I have added this discussion to Template talk:Infobox GB station Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 18:18, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
I've started a debate on what should be included in the Urban rail article. Please see Talk:Urban rail in the United Kingdom#Other networks. Simply south .... .. time, department skies for just 9 years 12:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
A proposal has been made to rename all Manchester Metrolink stations from the 'X Metrolink station' format to the 'X tram stop' format. A discussion is being held at Talk:Manchester Metrolink#Metrolink station renaming proposal.. G-13114 ( talk) 14:59, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Any idea wich station? Not a Scottisch one as the SPT livery would suggest. This was taken with a rail trip around Manchester. I suspect we made an excursion to the Hadfield/Glossop line. One hour earlier these pictures were taken ( File:Close to Manchester (1).jpg, thumb, File:Close to Manchester (1).jpg). I put a question about these pictures in the Village Commons. Smiley.toerist ( talk) 12:05, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
It would appear Cross Country Route has reached the transclusion limit (presumably due to the map). Looks like we'll have to hive the diagram off to another page and create a reduced version or something. - mattbuck ( Talk) 23:57, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
{{
rws}}
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Redrose64 (
talk) 14:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I created a new category in the Commons as the (2008 in rail transport in the United Kingdom) is getting quite large. I reduced it a bit by moving some to the London subcategories (main stations). Maybe some other subcategories should be created. 2008 on the London Overground? The other later years are also big and should tackled. I prefer a systematic approach. Smiley.toerist ( talk) 12:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Rodw brought this article to my attention as needing inline citations. Frankly it's barely an article at all currently, but I was wondering whether it even should be. The only place I've ever heard it mentioned is by the CRP. The track it covers is, apart from Castle Cary to Upwey, is entirely subsumed by the Wessex Main Line and the Berks & Hants Line. Does anyone know when the term "Heart of Wessex Line" came in to being? Is there a different name for the Castle Cary to Weymouth bit we should be using? - mattbuck ( Talk) 21:15, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
You might like to take a look at the discussion here: Talk:Supertram_(Sheffield)#Requested_move_23_January_2016. G-13114 ( talk) 11:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I have been working on an article about Davyhulme Sewage Works, which had an internal railway from the 1890s until 1958. Details are mentioned in the text, and details of the 17 locomotives used are included in their own section. Should I add the article to WikiProject UK Railways, and if so, which banner do I use? Bob1960evens ( talk) 18:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi, this drive-by edit of Reculver was intended to "fix" a link to South Eastern Railway, UK, by changing it to " South Eastern Railway, United Kingdom". I'm sure it was just a slip-up, but it did prompt me to think about whether "South Eastern Railway, UK", is the best name for that article. Looking at two examples that occurred to me – South Eastern Railway and North Eastern Railway – I wonder if it shouldn't be moved to " South Eastern Railway (United Kingdom)". But I've virtually zero experience in handling railway articles, I'm just putting it out there for the sake of consistency. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 12:46, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Can anyone identify the livery of this DMU on the Chesterfield/Rotherham line sometime in the 1980s? Lamberhurst ( talk) 23:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I seem to remember that there was a convention somewhere that if we needed to disambiguate a station, the brackets should go in the middle of the name rather than the end. E.g. Earlswood (West Midlands) railway station, rather than Earlswood railway station (West Midlands). But I can't find that convention anywhere. Just the subject has come up at Talk:Haymarket (Edinburgh) station. G-13114 ( talk) 19:29, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
You might like to see the discussion at Talk:Haymarket railway station#Naming.
Basically, as the new Edinburgh Trams had opened a new tram stop right outside the station, also called Haymarket, I thought it should be treated as a multi-modal station, in the same vein as West Croydon station, and moved the article to Haymarket (Edinburgh) station, as the Haymarket station space was already in use, and it was in line with the article disambiguation conventions. But someone yesterday objected, and moved it back to Haymarket railway station. So your thoughts would be appreciated on the talk page. G-13114 ( talk) 13:34, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
See Talk:LNWR George the Fifth Class#John Hick. I can't get the idea of WP:NOR in tandem with WP:V across here. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 22:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
The deleted Sheffield to Hull Line claimed the following segments:
Doncaster-Swinton is a mystery. There are just two open stations: Conisbrough and Mexborough. The ORR usage report groups them with "Swinton - Brocklesby Jcn", which includes the South Humberside Main Line to Barnetby. Various Network Rail documents [6] [7] refer to this as "Doncaster South Yorkshire Junction to Swinton Junction" but this is more descriptive than a proper name. Mackensen (talk) 19:44, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
It would be conjectural and descriptive, but how about Swinton to Doncaster Line, describing the entire piece? That would at least group the related content in the same place, and could be easily renamed if a more official name is discovered? Mackensen (talk) 13:26, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I've created it, and left a note on Talk:Swinton to Doncaster Line linking back to this discussion. Mackensen (talk) 13:29, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Please can an admin have a look at Great Grimsby Street Tramways where text taken from Grimsby District Light Railway (where it had been since 2006) has been deleted as a copyvio on the basis that a page on a wiki-clone site created since 2007 had the same text. Full details on the talk page of the first article. As a non-admin I can't undo the deletion by an admin who didn't bother to reply to the message on the talk page. It would be a shame to lose the text wrongly expunged. Lamberhurst ( talk) 19:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I was advised to seek advice and opinions here about Talk:London Trams#Name of the organisation. The main question is whether there should be an article on TfL's tram operations, separate from the one on Tramlink. Thanks. wctaiwan ( talk) 23:28, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Should we indicate the current use of a station building? RThompson82 ( talk · contribs) insists that we do, yet seems unwilling to source it, and gave this reaction to my request on their talk page. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 00:56, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
FYI, Talk:Haverhill railway station#Requested move 9 February 2016. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 21:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Per the earlier consensus established either here or at TWP, I've redrawn the two RDTs covering the SEML to show the line as closed between Folkestone and Dover. Apparently the original wooden viaduct has rotted after a mere 170 years and the whole of that stretch of line will need to be rebuilt. This means that the line will have been closed in excess of 6 months by the time it reopens.
Now, where can I find an image of the original wooden viaduct before it was infilled. Sure I've seen one in a book somewhere. Mjroots ( talk) 18:47, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
FYI, Talk:Central line#Requested move 21 February 2016. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 10:28, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Some help is need in dating images see: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Flicker_images_of_trains_in_Oxford. Smiley.toerist ( talk) 11:16, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
You might like to take a look at my comments at Talk:Oldham Mumps tram stop#Article split. G-13114 ( talk) 12:06, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Currently, we have three separate articles ( British Rail Class 201, British Rail Class 202 and British Rail Class 203) on the Hastings Units. I think that the could be much better handled by a single article covering all three classes, which were treated as one by BR for operational purposes. Raising for discussion, thoughts, comments and suggestions. Mjroots ( talk) 11:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Class | Routes | Max speed | Built | Cars | 1982 | 1986 | 1994 |
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201 | Hastings Line | 90mph | 1957 | 6 | Not shown | Not shown | 0 units |
202 | Hastings Line (with Buffet car) | 90mph | 1957 | 6 | 6 units | 6 units | 0 units |
203 | Hastings Line | 90mph | 1957 | 5 | 4 units | 4 units | 0 units |
204 | Hastings Line | 90mph | 1957 | 5 | 12 units | 12 units | 0 units |
I've made a start. Please restrain yourselves from editing the article for now. I'll expand the article more tomorrow. Mjroots ( talk) 22:20, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Could I ask project members to look over this new article to make sure I haven't made any omissions, errors of fact or interpretation. Any and all edits welcome! I will be finishing it off tonight. Thx, Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:18, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
The table of stock types seems to omit loco-hauled coaching stock. This was used on several routes before new multiple units were built. Geof Sheppard ( talk) 13:44, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Sir Anthony Hidden , QC has died. Seems to me that he is notable enough to have an article. Mjroots ( talk) 19:18, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
I have just found photos have been removed from Woodbridge and Melton station pages all of which I felt helped illustrate the nature of those stations. Is this a decision that has been made in Wikipedia I am unaware of or has the editor decided unilaterally that they should be removed? -- Davidvaughanwells ( talk) 22:21, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
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BU Rob13 ( talk · contribs) is apparently embarking on a crusade to delete RDTs that are only used on single pages: WP:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 March 20. Useddenim ( talk) 23:06, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
I have started a discussion about " BSn templates for use and BSn templates for substitution" at Wikipedia_talk:Route_diagram_template. Your opinion is welcome. Pldx1 ( talk) 10:22, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
I am trying to ascertain the position of the original Lewisham station. Until today I always thought the existing station was the original but the copy of the 1857 accident report ( http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/BoT_Lewisham1857.pdf) suggests its between the new (present) station and Blackheath. I am assuming it was located on the other side of the Lewisham Road bridge but would appreciate confirmation (with source?).-- Davidvaughanwells ( talk) 21:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)