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Hello awesome Simpsons project. I am working on an article on the life-sized replica of The Simpsons House in Henderson, Nevada. It is in my user space now. What I am looking for is someone in the Las Vegas area willing to drive over to Henderson and take a few photos of the house, it no longer looks like the Simpsons house unfortunately and I haven't been able to find any legimately licensed free-use images, but am holding out some hope. Any help would be great, thanks. -- IvoShandor ( talk) 19:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
As an afterthought, if any project members make a trip to Vegas, maybe they can stop in Henderson? The address is the article. I did some copy editing there too, thanks everyone for your advice and consent. :-) -- IvoShandor ( talk) 05:49, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Although not a member of WP:SIMPSONS, I've recently been working on Brush with Greatness- to the extent that I believe I can take it up to GA class from Start. However, I lack the entire second series (having only seen it 1-2 times when I borrowed it from the local library). Consequently, while all other areas of the article are fine, I'm stuck with the Production. If anyone could help write that section (it's on the Episode Commentary, et cetera), their effort would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Cheers. I' mperator 00:26, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'm a member of WikiProject Comedy and I have been tagging several Simpsons articles, mainly whenever they are nominated for FA, FL or GA. However, some people believe I should not tag the episodes. I would like your feedback so as to know which action I should take.
Thanks,
ISD ( talk) 19:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) Ah I see it doesn't seem like a big disagreement to me from what I read on your talk page, just queries. In any event I assume good faith and know that you are just doing the tagging for articles that come to your attention as they get to GAC, not because they get to GAC - and even if that were the case, the WikiProject is not any one person so no one is "taking credit", like I said it is just a great way to keep track of the overarching statistics of both projects. Cirt ( talk) 08:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Could someone help me out with The Simpsons (season 11)? I'll probably be able to complete the summary sections, but, once again, I'm hopeless with the other two sections. :/ I'm currently trying to turn it into a FL... Cheers. I' mperator 22:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
List of one-time characters in The Simpsons has once again been nominated for deletion. Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of one-time characters in The Simpsons (6th nomination) CTJF83 Talk 20:58, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
This is an idea I've been considering because looking through The Simpsons, a good chunk is devoted to merchandise, the film and the ride. The article seems to shift focus between being about the half-hour show, and being about the entire franchise (for lack of a better term). So, perhaps it would help to have a page for the entire franchise (Ullman shorts, half-hour show, books, comics, video games, movie, ride, etc.) while The Simpsons would be devoted almost entirely to just the half-hour show. I'm not sure if franchise is the best title. Alternatively, it could be called The Simpsons merchandise, but I dislike that idea because the ride and film don't really fit into that, or The Simpsons media. But, I would rather have the article be about the entire "The Simpsons" brand rather than just be a list of media. (There is precedent by the way, ie. Firefly (franchise)) -- Scorpion 0422 19:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've created The Simpsons (franchise) and removed some stuff from The Simpsons. It's still very rough and I am going to try to expand it quite a bit. -- Scorpion 0422 21:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Mountain of Madness was nominated for GA reassessment. It is true that many of our older episode GAs (which includes most of the articles of the season 8 GT) are rather low compared to the newer ones. Perhaps we should work on bringing some of them up to standards before we continue on with the current drives/ -- Scorpion 0422 15:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I made this page a long while back as a personal semi-quest to get an image for each person related to the show but mainly because I got bored one day and enjoy wasting my time making trivial list/catalouge things. Anyway, the point is that I think it'd be more useful if this were a project sub-page as that would perhaps alert people to some of the images we need and then they may be able to get them. Thoughts? Gran 2 16:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know where I can find a transcript for the episode's commentary, or could someone add any relevant info to the production section? Thanks. Also, does anyone know if there exists one of those official looking images that I see used on recent ep pages for this ep? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 17:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm thinking about merging the cultural references info into the plot summary. Is there an episode MOS that this would contradict? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 16:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I was looking at the TV episode GAs that needed to be swept, and three of them are Simpsons articles. I left a note for the reviewer at User talk:Masem#GAR. Basically, two of them need some paperwork updated as they appear to still be GAs, and Kamp Krusty may need some work to remain a GA, although I fixed the outstanding issue mentioned in the review by removing a second non-free image. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 18:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
99.253.225.109 ( talk · contribs) = going around to articles, reformatting paragraphs to bulleted lists. Might want to look into it. Cirt ( talk) 05:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
The GA Reviewer for Bart Sells His Soul has brought up many issues at the GA review subpage, Talk:Bart Sells His Soul/GA1. I would appreciate any help with copy-editing, and addressing these issues during the GA review to hopefully help get this article up to WP:GA quality status. Thank you for your time, Cirt ( talk) 20:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Update: The GA Reviewer has raised additional concerns = [2]. This after helpful copyediting by Scorpion0422 ( talk · contribs). Again, would really appreciate as many editors as possible looking into addressing points from Talk:Bart Sells His Soul/GA1. Thank you, Cirt ( talk) 10:13, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
File:Homer Simpson 2006.png File:Homer Simpson.svg I recently uploaded an SVG image of Homer, but was directed to the consensus of WP:SIMPSONS that a specific image had already been decided on, which I have added to the right. I would like to appeal as to whether the SVG file that I created can be used in the Infobox for Homer Simpson, and if not, then can an updated version of the current PNG image in use be taken from the FoxFlash website, which has uploaded a new, more aesthetically pleasing image of Homer. Gage ( talk) 11:55, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
The article Bart Sells His Soul is currently undergoing a peer review, input would be appreciated at its peer review page: Wikipedia:Peer review/Bart Sells His Soul/archive1. Cirt ( talk) 02:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Now at WP:GAN, again... :P Cirt ( talk) 23:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
A user has been creating a page for the Spider Pig song from the movie. [3] Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums, singles and songs says "Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album."
It does have some notability because it reached #3 on an Irish chart, but that's pretty much it and do we really need an entire page that just says that? It doesn't include much that can't just as easily be said in the album page, so I think it should be merged there. -- Scorpion 0422 04:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm starting to think we should merge the page with The Simpsons. There are few sources, and some of the jokes added are either very minor, not actually recurring or are a comedy staple used in many shows. Take, for example, this recently removed gem:
From the catchphrases section: Sherri and Terri are always asked, "which one is the evil twin?" They hate being asked that, especially since they've been asked that for years. An example of this is when Alex Whitney, the new sophisticated student at school asks, "Oooh, twins! Which one is the evil one?"
First of all, it's not actually a catchphrase. Second, I can't remember this being used again (although it doesn't mean it wasn't), but it certainly isn't used often enough to warrant any kind of mention. Either it should be merged, or we should come up with some kind of criteria, because looking at it, it's a huge mess with some things randomly added by IPs and some notable jokes not mentioned at all. -- Scorpion 0422 02:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
We have gone 7 months since having a TFA, so we might be able to get one in this year. We've previously had Homer's Phobia on July 27, 2007; The Simpsons on December 17, 2007; Troy McClure on May 28, 2008; and Treehouse of Horror (series) on October 31, 2008. All four were requested, we've never had a randomly placed TFA. These are some options:
Thoughts? I'd really like to get something as TFA on December 17 or January 14 as it's not often a series celebrates 20 years on the air. But, I know Gran2 was hoping to get The Simpsons Movie in at some point. -- Scorpion 0422 23:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Alternatively, we could try to get the Matt Groening article to FA, then get it as the TFA on that date. -- Scorpion 0422 16:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
The clock is ticking down... :) (remember this?) TheLeft orium 14:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Interesting unrelated trivia. Following the death of Michael Jackson, Stark Raving Dad had 16,900 views (more than triple what it received the first 25 days of the month, before that it averaged 250 views per day) [4] and Do the Bartman had 1,700 views [5]. (The Michael Jackson article has had 9 million views in 3 days, including an unbelieveable 5.9 million in one day, which might just be a single day record [6]). -- Scorpion 0422 00:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
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Should this page still be semi'd? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 03:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
What is the process for this? I can't find a rationale on the individual article talk pages. Hekerui ( talk) 13:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
My current goal is to try to get the page to FA status. I think it's possible - there is quite a bit of backstory and other related bits about the episode - but it does need some copyediting and some more sources would help. What it needs:
Any help from any project members would be most welcome. -- Scorpion 0422 22:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
After a recent request, I added WikiProject The Simpsons to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons/Popular pages.
The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr. Z-man 20:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
There are a few important changes to the popular pages system. A quick summary:
-- Mr. Z-man 00:34, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Can somebody who owns the DVD expand the production section? Nergaal ( talk) 04:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I started work on " The Heartbroke Kid" article yesterday, an article which was in the "unreferenced" section of the wikiproject. I have so far taken it from this to this but need some help finding production info, reception and popular culture info which can be cited. Please let me know if you can help, or equally add cited info to the article. Thanks. 03 md 08:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Great news everyone! They're paying us $50 a day to film some of the documentary here! And by that I mean, I talked to the guy touting around NHC for stories for the new Spurlock documentary and asked them if they were interested in hearing about the work we did here, and they said they were. So I'm recommending they come on IRC, that way they can talk to more than one of us. Gran 2 17:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The special now has a page: The Simpsons 20th Anniversary Special - In 3-D! On Ice! It's a little soon, but I was looking through google news and found some reports on the filming, so I figured there was enough content to sustain a page for now (as adding these reports to the season 21 page would be undue weight). -- Scorpion 0422 02:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Cape Feare for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. DJ 10:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I suppose it was only a matter of time before that happened. It shouldn't be too hard to clean it up, but I don't know if we'll be able to bring it to current FA standards on time. -- Scorpion 0422 01:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
A user (the same one that nominated Cape Feare for FL removal) has decided to nominate Template:Simpsons character and Template:Infobox Simpsons episode for deletion, with the bulk of his argument being that generic templates exist and The Simpsons doesn't need individual templates. The former has already survived deletion, and if the latter is deleted, we'll lose the individual season lists (as well as the links to the seasons). Template:Simpsons Sideshow Bob is also up for deletion, although I wouldn't be upset if it were deleted. -- Scorpion 0422 02:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I want to help improve Snithers to another level, can anyone offer there help. -- Pedro J. the rookie 20:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
[8] Just read this. As most of the editors here are, presumably, American, I'd imagine that they wouldn't be aware of DS. May be useful as a source. DJ 22:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
A discussion is occuring about the content of the main page of this WikiProject here. DJ 22:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
As I've said, see the previous discussion on this page. If you feel I've broken a guidline, take it here. I don't need to justify myself to you. DJ 23:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the "disturbing content". [9] Does anyone object to the new text, or prefer for the entire thing to be removed? -- Scorpion 0422 00:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, fine. The title's a little bit misleading; this is about a FAC for The Simpson season 10, but rather how to get their. I'll list some things here:
If these concerns can be fixed, then this article might just have a shot at being a WP:FL :) Cheers, I' mperator 16:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be a tendency not to include screenshots in episode articles any more; this has been the case with several new GAs. Why is this, is there some new policy? Lampman ( talk) 11:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Should we put a brief description of the episode plot on this page? I know it would be a lot of work, and the season pages already have descriptions, but if someone comes to this page to find an episode, and have no idea what season it is, they can easily find it. CTJF83 chat 08:16, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
This is a heads up about a new book coming out in NA today called "The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History" by Jon Ortved. (If the name sounds familiar, it's because he wrote this article). Here's a snippet from it about Michael Jackson: [10].
Amazon describes the book as such:
"John Ortved's oral history will be the first-ever look behind the scenes at the creation and day-to-day running of The Simpsons, as told by many of the people who made it: among them writers, animators, producers, and network executives. It’s an intriguing yet hilarious tale, full of betrayal, ambition, and love. Like the family it depicts, the show's creative forces have been riven by dysfunction from the get-go—outsize egos clashing with studio executives and one another over credit for and control of a pop-culture institution. Contrary to popular belief, The Simpsons did not spring out of one man's brain, fully formed, like a hilarious Athena. Its inception was a process, with many parents, and this book tells the story."
It sounds helpful, but we should be careful because these books do have a tendency to be a bit... liberal with the details. I'd have to read it first, but any book that advertizes itself as "Uncensored, Unauthorized" should be treated with caution. It might only be useable for it's interviews, but we'll have to see. -- Scorpion 0422 12:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I got the book today, and looking through it, it's quite detailed. It offers a different version of the creation of the show (ie. Other than the lobby version), but I've noticed that accounts conflict quite a bit and one guy, I forget his name, seems to like giving himself a lot of credit. I think we should stay with the common creation story for now, because it is the version stated by Matt Groening and James L. Brooks. -- Scorpion 0422 22:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I have to admit, I'm disappointed in the book as a source. The book follows the model of Live from New York: An Uncensored History of Saturday Night Live with interviews with various people. However, in the case of the SNL book, the author was able to get comments from quite a few important cast and background figures, including Lorne Michaels. In The Simpsons book, only a few cast members, writers and producers participated (there are comments from the likes of Groening and Brooks that were taken from other interviews). As such, some figures are given undue weight. Conan has an entire chapter while the EP reigns of David Mirkin, Oakley & Weinstein, and Scully are covered in a few pages. Bob Kushell and Rob Cohen (who were interviewed) get extended mentions while David S. Cohen, Ian Maxtone-Graham and Ken Keeler are barely mentioned at all. I haven't finished the book, but I find that generally the stories are more about the behind the scenes politics rather than about the production of the show. -- Scorpion 0422 15:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
After looking around, I felt there was enough material for a page for the book, so I created one for it here. I'm still working on it. I haven't yet decided if I should include a blog written by Ortved [11] in which he says that Brooks and Fox tried to stop him from writing it. I'm hoping a more reliable source will come up. -- Scorpion 0422 22:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been slowly expanding the article, and it's already a pretty good size - possibly within GA reach. Who knows, maybe some day it could be a FA (though it would need some comments from the staff). I have a question for Gran2, Theleftorium, and anyone else outside the US of A or Canada. Is the book still called The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History? And who is the publisher (if anyone could give me a link to that publisher's page on the book, it would be great. 99% of my google searches are turning up sales websites). -- Scorpion 0422 19:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
A trivia list which has had the bullet points removed and made to superficially resemble a paragraph is still a trivia list. That's exactly what most "cultural references" sections on individual episode articles are. Even "Good Articles" like Lisa's Rival suffer from this. Has this phenomenon ever been addressed at WikiProject The Simpsons? Mike R ( talk) 19:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Cape Feare was kept as an FA. Well done everyone! :) The leftorium 21:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
List of The Simpsons couch gags has been listed at AfD so please leave your comments there. I really don't see the point in having this page, to be honest, but that's just my opinion. The leftorium 21:43, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello. In this article it says that Dr. Nick is Argentinian. Do you have any reference for this? Does the character mention it in any episode? I know that I should post this message in Talk:Nick Riviera, but no registered users seem to comment there. Thanks in advance for the answers. Mel 23 ( talk) 00:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thse anybody own the simpsons book where they analiys lisa-- Pedro J. the rookie 21:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
well there are three i think Planet Simpson, The Simpsons and Philosophy: The D'oh! of Homer and well no i think there is no more, but if there is could you tell me.-- Pedro J. the rookie 01:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
As we discussed earlier, we would like to get a TFA on either December 17, 2009 or January 14, 2010, to commemorate the 20th year of the show. Of our current FAs, the ones that haven't been TFA already that make the most sense are Homer Simpson or Bart Simpson. Not just because they are the main characters, but because they made their post-Ullman debuts on December 17, which directly ties them to that day. As such, it would be a preferable day to January 14, but what might count against us is that The Simpsons was the TFA on December 17, 2007. I'm not sure what the policy is, but some might object to it because of that. It should be noted that Homer's page has been a FA longer, which might count in its favour.
Here is my proposed blurb for Homer:
And Bart:
Feel free to make any necessary changes. If anyone has any other ideas for a potential TFA, please let me know. -- No TV and no beer make Scorpion 0422 something something 21:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the James L. Brooks part will be a bit confusing for people not familiar with the backstory. Wouldn't the blurb below be better? The leftorium 18:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that is much better. Shorter too. -- Scorpion 0422 18:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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Homer Simpson has been scheduled as the TFA for December 17 and will be the second Simpsons page to run on that day. Please check over the blurb, and if anyone has a chance, it might not hurt to go over the article again. -- Scorpion 0422 00:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
It only lasted 3 1/2 hours before the image was removed. It's really not worth the effort of trying to get it re-added. -- Scorpion 0422 03:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
3 hours, 40 minutes in and the page has now been semi-protected. It seems a little premature to me because there was really only one vandal. I'd also like to remind everyone to keep an eye on the Simpsons watchlist [12] today because I have noticed more activity on Simpsons pages. -- Scorpion 0422 03:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
The ratings are in: 82,000 views. [13]. That's actually a bit of a disappointment because Treehouse of Horror (series) had 102,000 views the day it was featured (October 31, 2008) [14], Troy McClure had 133,000 on May 28, 2008 [15] and The Simpsons had 130,000 on December 17, 2007 [16]. The media attention from the 20th anniversary combined with the TFA did give a huge boost to other Simpsons pages, including The Simpsons (just under 30,000 views [17]), Dan Castellaneta (28,200 [18]), Matt Groening (10,900 [19]), Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire (3,700 [20]), The Tracey Ullman Show (7,700 [21]), Good Night (The Simpsons short) (7,200 [22]) and the rest of the Simpson family (Bart - 8,100 [23], Marge - 6,100 [24], Lisa - 4,600 [25], Maggie - 4,500 [26]. if that doesn't sound like a lot, consider that those pages average about 500 views per day). Hell, even The Day of the Locust got a big boost in viewers. It's a good thing that almost all of those pages are at least GAs, hopefully the users that decided to check out other Simpsons pages were impressed. -- Scorpion 0422 00:35, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Which is ironic because they were created when the categories were deleted (and most users said "More appropriate as a template"). I'm rather annoyed because the project wasn't notified about it (and we should have, considering how many pages it affects). Should we ask for a review? -- Scorpion 0422 00:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello to everyone at the WikiProject for the The Simpsons! This is to let you know that The Great Wife Hope has successfully passed its GAR. Congratulations to everybody that worked on it. Keep up the good work. -- Nyx aus 16:00, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I've nominated this category for deletion. The discussion is here CTJF83 chat 20:40, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
For those curious, this is what our article assessment chart looked like on December 31, 2006:
And for those curious, the 2 Featured quality articles we had at the end of 2006 were The Simpsons and List of The Simpsons episodes, while the GA was Homer Simpson.
The Simpsons articles |
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
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2 | 2 | |||||
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1 | 1 | |||||
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1 | 1 | |||||
B | 6 | 26 | 15 | 8 | 55 | ||
Start | 2 | 28 | 415 | 64 | 27 | 536 | |
Stub | 5 | 22 | 84 | 53 | 164 | ||
Unassessed | |||||||
Total | 11 | 60 | 452 | 156 | 80 | 759 |
This is what it looked like on December 31, 2007:
For those curious, these are the GAs & featured content we had at the end of 2007.
The Simpsons articles |
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
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2 | 9 | 7 | 1 | 19 | ||
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1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | |||
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2 | 6 | 59 | 67 | |||
B | 4 | 17 | 9 | 4 | 34 | ||
Start | 1 | 32 | 385 | 69 | 3 | 490 | |
Stub | 1 | 23 | 108 | 19 | 151 | ||
Assessed | 10 | 66 | 484 | 182 | 22 | 764 | |
Total | 10 | 66 | 484 | 182 | 22 | 764 |
And this is what it looked like on December 31, 2008:
The Simpsons articles |
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
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4 | 1 | 10 | 15 | |||
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1 | 11 | 1 | 1 | 14 | ||
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2 | 3 | 5 | ||||
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4 | 8 | 121 | 3 | 136 | ||
B | 15 | 8 | 5 | 28 | |||
C | 7 | 10 | 2 | 19 | |||
Start | 19 | 319 | 59 | 2 | 399 | ||
Stub | 1 | 25 | 119 | 22 | 167 | ||
List | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | |||
Assessed | 9 | 65 | 498 | 191 | 24 | 787 | |
Total | 9 | 65 | 498 | 191 | 24 | 787 |
and here's what it looks like now:
The Simpsons articles |
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
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4 | 3 | 13 | 1 | 21 | ||
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1 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 15 | ||
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1 | 3 | 4 | ||||
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4 | 13 | 195 | 7 | 219 | ||
B | 1 | 14 | 13 | 6 | 34 | ||
C | 4 | 28 | 5 | 37 | |||
Start | 12 | 243 | 60 | 2 | 317 | ||
Stub | 1 | 21 | 120 | 18 | 160 | ||
List | 4 | 1 | 2 | 7 | |||
Assessed | 10 | 64 | 518 | 202 | 20 | 814 | |
Total | 10 | 64 | 518 | 202 | 20 | 814 |
Pretty good. In 2008, we added 83 GAs, 6 FAs (which is on par with the number added in 2008), 1 FL, 4 GTs and reduced our number of start class pages by 82 (not as good as 2008 when we shrank the number by 91). There was even shrinkage in the stub category, which went down by seven. We saw the addition of only one character article GA ( The Itchy & Scratchy Show, though Sideshow Bob made FA) but saw the remaining five cast members promoted to GA (and Nancy Cartwright was also pushed to FA), Phil Hartman promoted to FA, plus James L. Brooks, George Meyer and some animators (like Dan Povenmire) went to GA. We also branched out into merchandise, two video game articles were promoted to FA, and My Life as a 10-Year-Old Boy made GA. We even saw alt.tv.simpsons promoted to GA. Our one FL was The Simpsons (season 14), and hopefully we can get some other season pages promoted this year. We also had a number of DYKs and Homer Simpson made TFA on December 17.
I also set some (unofficial) goals:
The amount of content promoted went down in the fall, due to several of us going back to school. We also came close to losing Cape Feare, one of our first episode GAs and very first episode FA. But, all in all, I'd say that 2009 was another good year for the Simpsons WikiProject. -- Scorpion 0422 22:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Some possible goals:
-- Scorpion 0422 02:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
...has been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Non-English versions of The Simpsons. The leftorium 17:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Just did a bit of reading and stumbled upon the fact that we've got until September to get another FA in the topic or it will be demoted to GT. Are we fine with this, or should we get to work on getting that third FA? The Flash {talk} 23:24, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, the documentary is on next Sunday, and the bitterness within me is kicking in when I read things like this [27] that they did come to England to interview people, but couldn't be bothered to talk to me. They even talked to the kid who had the Hiemlich done on him because his friend saw it on the show, which I'm certain they wouldn't have found out about unless it was mentioned in the " Homer at the Bat" article. So my thoughts turned to the question of whether we will even get a tiny mention: I think the answer to that is, no. Gran 2 17:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Nope, we didn't get mentioned. They barely even talked about the show's huge popularity on the internet (there was a thirty second bit in which they talked about the people who complain on messageboards). -- Scorpion 0422 02:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
As of late, users have taken to adding a ratings table to the main article. For example: [28], [29] and [30]. These tables are always incomplete, and use questionable and unreliable sources. I've always maintained that seasonal ratings have no impact on a show like The Simpsons. It's not like it was a constantly highly rated show, which would make the ratings be of more interest. Considering how big the article is, such a table is basically just space wasting trivia. True, we do include ratings in episode pages, but I think ratings says more about a single episode than they do about a season. Either way, I thought I would bring this up here to try to get more opinions. -- Scorpion 0422 04:46, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
BBC has a neat top 10 classic episodes article. It is probably worth adding a note in the 10 episode articles about this nod. Nergaal ( talk) 19:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I probably missed the discussion, but we only have one Featured topic now?! Are we planning on reclaiming GT and making them FT? CTJF83 chat 03:51, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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This article is due to be deleted; is there a place within the Wikiproject where the content can be integrated? THF ( talk) 13:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
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Guess we should make this a target. Gran 2 08:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Mark Ervin has been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Ervin. -- Scorpion 0422 01:35, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I've started this article. THF ( talk) 13:49, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
And now a user has added the billboard gag to the infobox [31]. My rationale for keeping it out has always been that it is in a small portion of episodes, and why should it infobox status over other recurring credits jokes? Why not add a sax solo field? Or a "Ralph's one-liner" field? Or a "Whatever flies across the screen at the beginning" field? Hell, why not a "Is it the long, medium or short version of the opening? Either way, the infobox should only contain fields that either apply to every episode, or could/will apply to every episode (The commentary field is kind of pushing it, but in theory, there will some day be a commentary for every episode (I very highly doubt that they will go back and add billboard gags for every episode). Otherwise, giving the joke a spot in the infobox when the opening credits has numerous other jokes is undue weight. -- Scorpion 0422 04:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
There was a time when I vehemently opposed the deletion of this list, but now I really could care less. I think I'm going to stay out of this one. Users (mostly editors who focus on other television shows) like to say that Simpsons content is allowed to skirt around guidelines and have crufty useless pages. When they say this, that list is generally what they focus on and they ignore all of the great content that we have generated (because after all, one controversial list means all content relating to a topic sucks, right?). It's not my favourite list, and I really wouldn't miss it (because it is hard to maintain), but it does have its uses (and it is the project's 51st most viewed page, so obviously some users find it useful).
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Simpsons couch gags (2nd nomination) couch gags this time. CTJF83 chat 04:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone use the Simpsons IRC room anymore? CTJF83 chat 19:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Please would appreciate others to weigh in here. There is some insistence on adding something non-noteworthy to this article. Cirt ( talk) 03:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Incoherent ramblings:
Well I've been doing some biographies this week. Some are pretty GA ready ( Mike Scully, Rich Appel, Matt Selman) but still need some work and expansion (if anybody can find any more sources on these three, then great). Others are not that far off ( David Mirkin and Mike Reiss, need expanding and cleaning up, but getting there, and Left is working Al Jean). I've done alot of the 'unsourced' bios, to save them from eventual deletion (see section above) but most of those will remain start class for now.
Anyway, my main point is outlining the future biography targets we need to work on (from the point of view of importance and also sheer doability as potential GAs): Sam Simon, Jon Vitti, Greg Daniels, John Swartzwelder, David Silverman, David X. Cohen, Bill Oakley, Josh Weinstein and Brad Bird, as well as possibly a few others. Due his recent 'drama' Conan's page has been pretty much done by other people, which is great. So there we go, I'm going to try and finish up Scully, Appel, Selman, Mirkin and Reiss (as said, if anybody can find some more sources or anything that'd really help). Then I'm probably going to try and work on Sam Simon, help would be appreciated there, especially when it comes to adding the stuff from Ortved's book because I've misplaced my copy. Gran 2 14:55, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
If it helps, Rich Appel was interviewed for Ortved's book, so you might be able to get some bits of information out of that. Excellent work, by the way. -- Scorpion 0422 19:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Do you guys think we could get a "The Simpsons show runners" GT? The leftorium 14:19, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
There are just eight articles (six from season 3, two from season 2) in the way of us completing the Featured Topic Drive for seasons two and three, and puts us within striking distance of achieving the once unobtainable goal of getting every classic era episode to GA. I think we should get one big push together and try to finish those articles before the end of the month. Unfortunately, my reading week is over, but I'll pitch in where I can (I think I'll have time to work on one tomorrow).
Here's what's left:
-- Scorpion 0422 23:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
At The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular, the DVD commentary is used as the source that Silverman used "Pound Foolish" as a pseudonym. However, it's not mentioned there. I've done some google searching, and I can't find a reliable source that says it. If we remove Silverman and just say that it's directed by "Pound Foolish", it wouldn't be long until an IP replaced it. Perhaps someone else will have better luck finding a source, otherwise, should it just be removed? -- Scorpion 0422 01:44, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, looks like the FT criteria is increasing on September 1 to half (instead of one third) that need to be FA. We should work on (at least) one more family member so Wikipedia:Featured topics/Simpson family will still be a FT in 6 months with the new criteria. We can finish season 2 and 3 drive first if you guys want. CTJF83 chat 20:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I think Lisa's page is ready to go, so I'll nominate it at FAC soon. If anyone has a chance, could they please look through the article? Thanks, Scorpion 0422 19:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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Hey guys, new to the project, it seems you're all doing an ace job. Was just thinking, maybe adding in a 'catchphrase' field to the character template might be cool. If left blank it wouldn't show up, characters can have listed multiple catchphrases. Homer's is "D'oh!", Barney's is just a belch, Dr. Nick's is "Hi everybody!" etc etc. Obviously there are some which could be considered catchphrases but aren't as recognisable and so shouldn't be included. Just a suggestion! Autonova ( talk) 14:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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-- Scorpion 0422 19:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
After looking through, I think the pages for Sternin, Ventimilia and Richdale should be kept as they are.
I think Sosa and Oliver are just under the threshold, as they don't appear to have a lot of other credits.
Goldreyer, Pulido, Richardson and Pepoon appear to have notability due to their extensive credits, but all three pages would need more sourcing. -- Scorpion 0422 19:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Season two has been nominated at Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/The Simpsons (season 2)/archive1. Nice work everyone! :) The leftorium 22:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Why do we not have a project coordinator? I just became aware of the position, here is the LGBT example, should we elect someone? CTJF83 chat 21:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
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User:Scorpion0422 is now the WikiProject coordinator. Done. :P --
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Twenty-one subcategories of Category:The Simpsons episodes have been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ( talk) 18:24, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Ladies and gentlemen, after over three years of work, we have finally achieved one of our earliest goals: Getting every classic era episode of the show to GA status. It began in early 2007 with Homerpalooza and it ends April 19, 2010 with Homer Defined. Now we have to work at making sure we don't lose any of our early GAs. -- Scorpion 0422 23:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken that's the first time Raul's just picked one of our articles, without it going through the requests page first. Keep a watch out tomorrow. Gran 2 13:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
For those curious, the article ended up getting 65,000 views [33]. Not bad for a page that normally gets 100-150 views. -- Scorpion 0422 03:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
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Recently an editor removed all the tags from all the various Simpsons books (such as Book:Treehouse of Horror, Book:The Simpsons (season 1),) etc... saying that the project only tags mainspace articles.
I'm not saying it's wrong to only tag mainspace articles, but why would you not tag books? These are considered part of content-space (although not mainspace), and need to be monitored for POV issues, style, presentation etc... Not tagging them would also cause the project to miss out on deletion discussions (should they happen) through WP:AALERTS and similar things, and will make it harder for editors looking to notify relevant people about discussions related to books on The Simpsons.
Since many of you may not know about books, I've place links to the various Signpost stories that talked about them. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 01:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
This is a WP:GA article. I have helped to get it to that quality status, so I would rather not myself get into a fracas here. Perhaps another editor could take a look at this recent issue? Thank you for your time, -- Cirt ( talk) 05:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
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Hello. I'm planning on reviving the Futurama Wikiproject. And since Futurama and The Simpsons are both made by Matt Groening, I've decided to ask any members of this project to join. So uh... anybody wanna join? GamerPro64 ( talk) 20:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Do editors check this for vandalism, unsourced additions, etc? I catch things on here from time to time. Cheers, -- Cirt ( talk) 04:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone wanting to continue our drives? I would like one day for every episode page to be at least GA. CTJF83 pride 03:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
FYI, I don't see that anyone has notified this wikiproject of this discussion. Jclemens ( talk) 02:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Solar Dragon ( talk · contribs) added links to the Simpsons wikia to a bunch of pages. Since he tagged so many, I figured it was worth discussing. WP:ELNO #12 says "Links normally to be avoided: Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors. Mirrors or forks of Wikipedia should not be linked."
And I think the Simpsons wikia does not meet that. Considering that Lostpedia, one of the finest fansites on the internet, isn't linked on Lost pages, I don't see how WikiSimpsons meets that. And that isn't intended to be a knock at the editors of that wikia, but very few of the pages there are complete. In fact, some of the wikia pages linked to, like Reverend Timothy Lovejoy, copied text from their wikipedia equivalents. -- Scorpion 0422 01:21, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I didn't start a discussion on your talk page because I wasn't around when you were doing it. I figured that starting one here would allow for a wider range of opinions. As an example, Reverend Lovejoy contains quite a bit of copied text from wikipedia, yet it's nominated to be one of your featured articles. And, actually, it is quite possible for a wikia to be better than wikipedia. I pointed out Lostpedia, and Gran pointed out Wookiepedia and Memory Alpha, all three of which are excellent sites. WikiSimpsons is improving, but it still has a long way to go.
Either way, this is not about the quality of the site, it's about whether it should be linked, and policy says no. -- Scorpion 0422 13:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I have removed from several Simpsons episode articles citations to Ariel Ponywether's episode reviews on Firefox News (firefox.org), which is a fanblog site. A fan review should not be cited as though it were professional critical commentary. Thanks, The Hero of This Nation ( talk) 11:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I know I've been saying this for about two years, but I think the article is nearing FA quality. I've slowly been improving it, and I think it's just about ready. All I need to do is one more sweep for sources, and a copyedit (or three). So, if anyone could take a look at it for me, I'd appreciate it. However, this really isn't a great time for me to nominate things. I just got back from an eight day trip, and I have a few other trips coming up in the not-too-distant future (including some time next week). I want to try to get it done while I have it my mind (because if I put it off until later it will probably take me another year to do it), so if I nominated it this week, would someone be able to watch the FAC for me after I left? -- Scorpion 0422 23:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
I have been working on a list of guest stars on The Simpsons on-and-off for a while now and am not yet finished. At one point I quit, seeing as how there is no way to reference the guest stars pass season 14—the Complete Guide to Our Favorite Family books end on that season and the official website's episode guide doesn't list guest star appearances pass like season 10. But when I saw that Simpsons World The Ultimate Episode Guide: Seasons 1-20 was coming out, I decided to put back on working on the list. If anyone objects to the List of guest stars looking like this or has any input, let me know. Otherwise, I'll try to have the list ready by October, when the book comes out, so by then all that has to be added are the references. Yes, it will be a long list and will probably have to be split up, but for a show that has been running for 21 seasons, I think it's warranted. Tj terrorible1 ( talk) 14:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
IMHO, too many characters have their own articles. There are what, 30 characters with their own articles? In that spirit, I've nominated 6 ancillary characters ( Professor Frink, Radioactive Man, Cletus, Rainier Wolfcastle, Lionel Hutz, and Nick Riviera for deletion) Purple backpack89 18:34, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
To bad we couldn't have done a DYK. [36] - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) 16:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Please participate at Talk:The Simpsons: Minutes to Meltdown. Theleftorium (talk) 13:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Yay us! Hopefully someday we'll have more GAs than start-class articles. Theleftorium (talk) 14:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Is anybody interested in continuing the topic drives? Some limited interest was shown for the season 10, but that is not going very well. Other alternatives would be:
Thoughts? Nergaal ( talk) 18:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay after ten minutes careful consideration, I propose the following character article suggestions:
Discuss these crazy ramblings. Gran 2 19:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't like the idea of splitting the recurring characters page - it makes it a lot harder to navigate. I think we could just trim it a bit. We're able to explain Homer's role and personality in just six paragraphs, so there's not reason why a character like Jebediah Springfield needs such a large section devoted to him. I wouldn't be against merging the celebrities page, but again there would be length issues.
I'd have no problem with deleting the animals page. Snowball probably could be merged, but I'd say leave SLH for now. I'd also have no problem with losing the fictional characters page. I once tried to nominate it for deletion, but was unable to because there was a freeze on afds because of the arbcom case (and I just forgot about it). I'm not sure about merging Lenny and Carl, but I'd certainly have no problem with Martin Prince, Cletus and Moleman being merged. -- Scorpion 0422 19:01, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
That they mention wikipedia a few times! I'm through the first three discs and this is what we have:
I'm back, by the way. -- Scorpion 0422 18:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Another one:
I'm not sure how many people monitor WP:MOSTV or even WP:TV (the basic WikiProject for all of us), but we've been trying to get some feedback on additions to the TV Manual of Style. It largely has to do with the inclusion of "Overview" tables at the start of the page, the order in which season lists are presented (currently, there is no concrete order), and what is considered too much info for DVDs (i.e. should we be placing every detail about the box set in the article, from each interview to the aspect ratio, or should be keep it more generalized). Please see discussion at WT:MOSTV#Updates to the MOS. Thank you. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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And this is annoying because a number of articles, mainly GAs & FAs, use those pages as a reference. The new links are like this: http://www.thesimpsons.com/recaps/season3/#episode1 rather than http://www.thesimpsons.com/episode_guide/0301.htm . Perhaps we should start fixing some of the dead links. -- Scorpion 0422 01:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure how many of you know about this link...
But I found http://dsudesign.wordpress.com/2010/09/14/storyboarding-resources/ which links to http://www.animationmeat.com/pdf/televisionanimation/strybrd_the_simpsonsway.pdf , which discusses how the Simpsons is storyboarded. WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I am reviewing the GA candidate, Bill Oakley. It is pretty close, but needs a bit of copyediting — specifically, with regard to run-on sentences, and sentences that are a bit too long, and also in some places overusage of commas, and see also some other GA Review recommendations, at Talk:Bill Oakley/GA1. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt ( talk) 10:24, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Simpsons World The Ultimate Episode Guide: Seasons 1–20 is now available in Canada and the US of A. It should be a useful resource, but it's not cheap. The listed price for Chapters is $170 (Canadian), which is... Quite a bit for a book. A local library has a copy so I'm going to borrow that, so if anyone has any requests for sourcing, let me know. -- Scorpion0422 II ( Talk) 18:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Back when I first nominated the Treehouse of Horror (series) page at FAC, a user asked if it was the first step towards a THOH FT. I said no, but now I think it might not be a bad idea. The project hasn't had a big collaboration in a while due to our finishing of the season FT drives, and this might be a good one. According to Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons/Featured topic Drive/ToH, episodes 1-8, and 19 are GAs. Kang and Kodos (which might be a good idea to include) is also a GA. So, that means we have 12 other articles. THOH episodes are generally the second most promoted episode of a season (after the premiere), so sources shouldn't be too difficult to find. There are also DVD commentaries for 9-12. Is there any interest in tackling this and getting it done before the year ends? -- "Don't blame me, I voted for Scorpion 0422" 15:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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On one of the DVD commentaries for the 13th season, the producers made a joke about killing off Fat Tony and replacing him with his cousin Fit Tony, who then gains weight and becomes known as Fat Tony. Sounds ridiculous, right? Well, of course, they actually went ahead and did it in Donnie Fatso. So now Fat Tony is dead and we now have Fit Tony, except that he looks exactly like Fat Tony and is in fact now called Fat Tony.
So, how do we treat this? Do we make the Fat Tony page specific to the old character, then create a "Fit Tony" section at the recurring character page, or do we keep info on both characters in the same page? And it does appear that Fat/Fit/whatever Tony will return, because there is an episode in the copyright database called "The Real Housewives of Fat Tony". -- Scorpion 0422 04:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
No updates since August 2010 - someone care to do the honors? :) -- Cirt ( talk) 19:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
In case you haven't noticed, The Simpsons Game is the TFA for today. I don't know if this is on purpose or a coincidence, but December 17 is also the anniversary of the airing of Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire. So, this is the third Simpsons article to make the main page on this day after The Simpsons in 2007 and Homer Simpson last year. -- Scorpion 0422 04:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Please see diff link. Thoughts? -- Cirt ( talk) 03:47, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes folks, Homer's Enemy has been scheduled to be the TFA on January 6. This means that there will have been 2, yes TWO Simpsons articles on the main page within a three week timeframe. This, of course, means that wikipedia will self-destruct and it could also mean the end of the world, we just don't know yet.
This being said, perhaps we should try fixing the article up a bit because it doesn't look up to par with our newer episode FAs. -- Scorpion 0422 16:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
I've expanded the article, so now it looks much better than it used to, although more copyediting never hurts. It could also use some more reception, but I think it's pretty much ready for the main page. -- Scorpion 0422 18:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Homer's Enemy was viewed 65,200 times during its stint on the main page. [38]. For comparison, The Simpsons Game had 48,200 views last month [39]. -- Scorpion 0422 16:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
For those curious, this is what our article assessment chart looked like on December 31, 2006:
And for those curious, the 2 Featured quality articles we had at the end of 2006 were The Simpsons and List of The Simpsons episodes, while the GA was Homer Simpson.
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B | 6 | 26 | 15 | 8 | 55 | ||
Start | 2 | 28 | 415 | 64 | 27 | 536 | |
Stub | 5 | 22 | 84 | 53 | 164 | ||
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Total | 11 | 60 | 452 | 156 | 80 | 759 |
This is what it looked like on December 31, 2007:
For those curious, these are the GAs & featured content we had at the end of 2007.
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2 | 9 | 7 | 1 | 19 | ||
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2 | 6 | 59 | 67 | |||
B | 4 | 17 | 9 | 4 | 34 | ||
Start | 1 | 32 | 385 | 69 | 3 | 490 | |
Stub | 1 | 23 | 108 | 19 | 151 | ||
Assessed | 10 | 66 | 484 | 182 | 22 | 764 | |
Total | 10 | 66 | 484 | 182 | 22 | 764 |
And this is what it looked like on December 31, 2008:
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2 | 3 | 5 | ||||
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4 | 8 | 121 | 3 | 136 | ||
B | 15 | 8 | 5 | 28 | |||
C | 7 | 10 | 2 | 19 | |||
Start | 19 | 319 | 59 | 2 | 399 | ||
Stub | 1 | 25 | 119 | 22 | 167 | ||
List | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | |||
Assessed | 9 | 65 | 498 | 191 | 24 | 787 | |
Total | 9 | 65 | 498 | 191 | 24 | 787 |
and this is from December 31, 2009:
The Simpsons articles |
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
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4 | 3 | 13 | 1 | 21 | ||
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1 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 15 | ||
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1 | 3 | 4 | ||||
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4 | 13 | 195 | 7 | 219 | ||
B | 1 | 14 | 13 | 6 | 34 | ||
C | 4 | 28 | 5 | 37 | |||
Start | 12 | 243 | 60 | 2 | 317 | ||
Stub | 1 | 21 | 120 | 18 | 160 | ||
List | 4 | 1 | 2 | 7 | |||
Assessed | 10 | 64 | 518 | 202 | 20 | 814 | |
Total | 10 | 64 | 518 | 202 | 20 | 814 |
And here it is now:
The Simpsons articles by quality and importance | |||||
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Top | High | Mid | Low | Total | |
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4 | 3 | 13 | 1 | 21 |
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1 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 15 |
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1 | 3 | 4 | ||
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4 | 13 | 211 | 11 | 239 |
B | 1 | 15 | 34 | 9 | 59 |
C | 5 | 41 | 10 | 56 | |
Start | 11 | 221 | 57 | 289 | |
Stub | 1 | 13 | 124 | 138 | |
List | 3 | 2 | 4 | 9 | |
Assessed | 10 | 64 | 539 | 217 | 830 |
Total | 10 | 64 | 539 | 217 | 830 |
Well, after the spectacular improvements we saw in previous years, 2010 seems rather disappointing. No gains at all in FAs, FLs or A class articles and "only" 20 new GAs. I think this is largely due to the end of our featured topic drives because now every episode from seasons 1-9 are GA or higher. However, we saw a marked improvement amongst our crew member pages thanks to Gran2, which is largely responsible for diriving up our number of B and C class pages. Our stub count also went down by 22. All in all, it was a good year, but lets try to do better in 2011. -- Scorpion 0422 22:20, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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Hello awesome Simpsons project. I am working on an article on the life-sized replica of The Simpsons House in Henderson, Nevada. It is in my user space now. What I am looking for is someone in the Las Vegas area willing to drive over to Henderson and take a few photos of the house, it no longer looks like the Simpsons house unfortunately and I haven't been able to find any legimately licensed free-use images, but am holding out some hope. Any help would be great, thanks. -- IvoShandor ( talk) 19:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
As an afterthought, if any project members make a trip to Vegas, maybe they can stop in Henderson? The address is the article. I did some copy editing there too, thanks everyone for your advice and consent. :-) -- IvoShandor ( talk) 05:49, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Although not a member of WP:SIMPSONS, I've recently been working on Brush with Greatness- to the extent that I believe I can take it up to GA class from Start. However, I lack the entire second series (having only seen it 1-2 times when I borrowed it from the local library). Consequently, while all other areas of the article are fine, I'm stuck with the Production. If anyone could help write that section (it's on the Episode Commentary, et cetera), their effort would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Cheers. I' mperator 00:26, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'm a member of WikiProject Comedy and I have been tagging several Simpsons articles, mainly whenever they are nominated for FA, FL or GA. However, some people believe I should not tag the episodes. I would like your feedback so as to know which action I should take.
Thanks,
ISD ( talk) 19:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) Ah I see it doesn't seem like a big disagreement to me from what I read on your talk page, just queries. In any event I assume good faith and know that you are just doing the tagging for articles that come to your attention as they get to GAC, not because they get to GAC - and even if that were the case, the WikiProject is not any one person so no one is "taking credit", like I said it is just a great way to keep track of the overarching statistics of both projects. Cirt ( talk) 08:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Could someone help me out with The Simpsons (season 11)? I'll probably be able to complete the summary sections, but, once again, I'm hopeless with the other two sections. :/ I'm currently trying to turn it into a FL... Cheers. I' mperator 22:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
List of one-time characters in The Simpsons has once again been nominated for deletion. Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of one-time characters in The Simpsons (6th nomination) CTJF83 Talk 20:58, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
This is an idea I've been considering because looking through The Simpsons, a good chunk is devoted to merchandise, the film and the ride. The article seems to shift focus between being about the half-hour show, and being about the entire franchise (for lack of a better term). So, perhaps it would help to have a page for the entire franchise (Ullman shorts, half-hour show, books, comics, video games, movie, ride, etc.) while The Simpsons would be devoted almost entirely to just the half-hour show. I'm not sure if franchise is the best title. Alternatively, it could be called The Simpsons merchandise, but I dislike that idea because the ride and film don't really fit into that, or The Simpsons media. But, I would rather have the article be about the entire "The Simpsons" brand rather than just be a list of media. (There is precedent by the way, ie. Firefly (franchise)) -- Scorpion 0422 19:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've created The Simpsons (franchise) and removed some stuff from The Simpsons. It's still very rough and I am going to try to expand it quite a bit. -- Scorpion 0422 21:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Mountain of Madness was nominated for GA reassessment. It is true that many of our older episode GAs (which includes most of the articles of the season 8 GT) are rather low compared to the newer ones. Perhaps we should work on bringing some of them up to standards before we continue on with the current drives/ -- Scorpion 0422 15:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I made this page a long while back as a personal semi-quest to get an image for each person related to the show but mainly because I got bored one day and enjoy wasting my time making trivial list/catalouge things. Anyway, the point is that I think it'd be more useful if this were a project sub-page as that would perhaps alert people to some of the images we need and then they may be able to get them. Thoughts? Gran 2 16:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know where I can find a transcript for the episode's commentary, or could someone add any relevant info to the production section? Thanks. Also, does anyone know if there exists one of those official looking images that I see used on recent ep pages for this ep? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 17:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm thinking about merging the cultural references info into the plot summary. Is there an episode MOS that this would contradict? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 16:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I was looking at the TV episode GAs that needed to be swept, and three of them are Simpsons articles. I left a note for the reviewer at User talk:Masem#GAR. Basically, two of them need some paperwork updated as they appear to still be GAs, and Kamp Krusty may need some work to remain a GA, although I fixed the outstanding issue mentioned in the review by removing a second non-free image. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 18:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
99.253.225.109 ( talk · contribs) = going around to articles, reformatting paragraphs to bulleted lists. Might want to look into it. Cirt ( talk) 05:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
The GA Reviewer for Bart Sells His Soul has brought up many issues at the GA review subpage, Talk:Bart Sells His Soul/GA1. I would appreciate any help with copy-editing, and addressing these issues during the GA review to hopefully help get this article up to WP:GA quality status. Thank you for your time, Cirt ( talk) 20:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Update: The GA Reviewer has raised additional concerns = [2]. This after helpful copyediting by Scorpion0422 ( talk · contribs). Again, would really appreciate as many editors as possible looking into addressing points from Talk:Bart Sells His Soul/GA1. Thank you, Cirt ( talk) 10:13, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
File:Homer Simpson 2006.png File:Homer Simpson.svg I recently uploaded an SVG image of Homer, but was directed to the consensus of WP:SIMPSONS that a specific image had already been decided on, which I have added to the right. I would like to appeal as to whether the SVG file that I created can be used in the Infobox for Homer Simpson, and if not, then can an updated version of the current PNG image in use be taken from the FoxFlash website, which has uploaded a new, more aesthetically pleasing image of Homer. Gage ( talk) 11:55, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
The article Bart Sells His Soul is currently undergoing a peer review, input would be appreciated at its peer review page: Wikipedia:Peer review/Bart Sells His Soul/archive1. Cirt ( talk) 02:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Now at WP:GAN, again... :P Cirt ( talk) 23:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
A user has been creating a page for the Spider Pig song from the movie. [3] Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums, singles and songs says "Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album."
It does have some notability because it reached #3 on an Irish chart, but that's pretty much it and do we really need an entire page that just says that? It doesn't include much that can't just as easily be said in the album page, so I think it should be merged there. -- Scorpion 0422 04:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm starting to think we should merge the page with The Simpsons. There are few sources, and some of the jokes added are either very minor, not actually recurring or are a comedy staple used in many shows. Take, for example, this recently removed gem:
From the catchphrases section: Sherri and Terri are always asked, "which one is the evil twin?" They hate being asked that, especially since they've been asked that for years. An example of this is when Alex Whitney, the new sophisticated student at school asks, "Oooh, twins! Which one is the evil one?"
First of all, it's not actually a catchphrase. Second, I can't remember this being used again (although it doesn't mean it wasn't), but it certainly isn't used often enough to warrant any kind of mention. Either it should be merged, or we should come up with some kind of criteria, because looking at it, it's a huge mess with some things randomly added by IPs and some notable jokes not mentioned at all. -- Scorpion 0422 02:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
We have gone 7 months since having a TFA, so we might be able to get one in this year. We've previously had Homer's Phobia on July 27, 2007; The Simpsons on December 17, 2007; Troy McClure on May 28, 2008; and Treehouse of Horror (series) on October 31, 2008. All four were requested, we've never had a randomly placed TFA. These are some options:
Thoughts? I'd really like to get something as TFA on December 17 or January 14 as it's not often a series celebrates 20 years on the air. But, I know Gran2 was hoping to get The Simpsons Movie in at some point. -- Scorpion 0422 23:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Alternatively, we could try to get the Matt Groening article to FA, then get it as the TFA on that date. -- Scorpion 0422 16:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
The clock is ticking down... :) (remember this?) TheLeft orium 14:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Interesting unrelated trivia. Following the death of Michael Jackson, Stark Raving Dad had 16,900 views (more than triple what it received the first 25 days of the month, before that it averaged 250 views per day) [4] and Do the Bartman had 1,700 views [5]. (The Michael Jackson article has had 9 million views in 3 days, including an unbelieveable 5.9 million in one day, which might just be a single day record [6]). -- Scorpion 0422 00:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
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Should this page still be semi'd? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 03:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
What is the process for this? I can't find a rationale on the individual article talk pages. Hekerui ( talk) 13:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
My current goal is to try to get the page to FA status. I think it's possible - there is quite a bit of backstory and other related bits about the episode - but it does need some copyediting and some more sources would help. What it needs:
Any help from any project members would be most welcome. -- Scorpion 0422 22:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
After a recent request, I added WikiProject The Simpsons to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons/Popular pages.
The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr. Z-man 20:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
There are a few important changes to the popular pages system. A quick summary:
-- Mr. Z-man 00:34, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Can somebody who owns the DVD expand the production section? Nergaal ( talk) 04:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I started work on " The Heartbroke Kid" article yesterday, an article which was in the "unreferenced" section of the wikiproject. I have so far taken it from this to this but need some help finding production info, reception and popular culture info which can be cited. Please let me know if you can help, or equally add cited info to the article. Thanks. 03 md 08:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Great news everyone! They're paying us $50 a day to film some of the documentary here! And by that I mean, I talked to the guy touting around NHC for stories for the new Spurlock documentary and asked them if they were interested in hearing about the work we did here, and they said they were. So I'm recommending they come on IRC, that way they can talk to more than one of us. Gran 2 17:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The special now has a page: The Simpsons 20th Anniversary Special - In 3-D! On Ice! It's a little soon, but I was looking through google news and found some reports on the filming, so I figured there was enough content to sustain a page for now (as adding these reports to the season 21 page would be undue weight). -- Scorpion 0422 02:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Cape Feare for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. DJ 10:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I suppose it was only a matter of time before that happened. It shouldn't be too hard to clean it up, but I don't know if we'll be able to bring it to current FA standards on time. -- Scorpion 0422 01:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
A user (the same one that nominated Cape Feare for FL removal) has decided to nominate Template:Simpsons character and Template:Infobox Simpsons episode for deletion, with the bulk of his argument being that generic templates exist and The Simpsons doesn't need individual templates. The former has already survived deletion, and if the latter is deleted, we'll lose the individual season lists (as well as the links to the seasons). Template:Simpsons Sideshow Bob is also up for deletion, although I wouldn't be upset if it were deleted. -- Scorpion 0422 02:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I want to help improve Snithers to another level, can anyone offer there help. -- Pedro J. the rookie 20:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
[8] Just read this. As most of the editors here are, presumably, American, I'd imagine that they wouldn't be aware of DS. May be useful as a source. DJ 22:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
A discussion is occuring about the content of the main page of this WikiProject here. DJ 22:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
As I've said, see the previous discussion on this page. If you feel I've broken a guidline, take it here. I don't need to justify myself to you. DJ 23:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the "disturbing content". [9] Does anyone object to the new text, or prefer for the entire thing to be removed? -- Scorpion 0422 00:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, fine. The title's a little bit misleading; this is about a FAC for The Simpson season 10, but rather how to get their. I'll list some things here:
If these concerns can be fixed, then this article might just have a shot at being a WP:FL :) Cheers, I' mperator 16:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be a tendency not to include screenshots in episode articles any more; this has been the case with several new GAs. Why is this, is there some new policy? Lampman ( talk) 11:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Should we put a brief description of the episode plot on this page? I know it would be a lot of work, and the season pages already have descriptions, but if someone comes to this page to find an episode, and have no idea what season it is, they can easily find it. CTJF83 chat 08:16, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
This is a heads up about a new book coming out in NA today called "The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History" by Jon Ortved. (If the name sounds familiar, it's because he wrote this article). Here's a snippet from it about Michael Jackson: [10].
Amazon describes the book as such:
"John Ortved's oral history will be the first-ever look behind the scenes at the creation and day-to-day running of The Simpsons, as told by many of the people who made it: among them writers, animators, producers, and network executives. It’s an intriguing yet hilarious tale, full of betrayal, ambition, and love. Like the family it depicts, the show's creative forces have been riven by dysfunction from the get-go—outsize egos clashing with studio executives and one another over credit for and control of a pop-culture institution. Contrary to popular belief, The Simpsons did not spring out of one man's brain, fully formed, like a hilarious Athena. Its inception was a process, with many parents, and this book tells the story."
It sounds helpful, but we should be careful because these books do have a tendency to be a bit... liberal with the details. I'd have to read it first, but any book that advertizes itself as "Uncensored, Unauthorized" should be treated with caution. It might only be useable for it's interviews, but we'll have to see. -- Scorpion 0422 12:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I got the book today, and looking through it, it's quite detailed. It offers a different version of the creation of the show (ie. Other than the lobby version), but I've noticed that accounts conflict quite a bit and one guy, I forget his name, seems to like giving himself a lot of credit. I think we should stay with the common creation story for now, because it is the version stated by Matt Groening and James L. Brooks. -- Scorpion 0422 22:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I have to admit, I'm disappointed in the book as a source. The book follows the model of Live from New York: An Uncensored History of Saturday Night Live with interviews with various people. However, in the case of the SNL book, the author was able to get comments from quite a few important cast and background figures, including Lorne Michaels. In The Simpsons book, only a few cast members, writers and producers participated (there are comments from the likes of Groening and Brooks that were taken from other interviews). As such, some figures are given undue weight. Conan has an entire chapter while the EP reigns of David Mirkin, Oakley & Weinstein, and Scully are covered in a few pages. Bob Kushell and Rob Cohen (who were interviewed) get extended mentions while David S. Cohen, Ian Maxtone-Graham and Ken Keeler are barely mentioned at all. I haven't finished the book, but I find that generally the stories are more about the behind the scenes politics rather than about the production of the show. -- Scorpion 0422 15:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
After looking around, I felt there was enough material for a page for the book, so I created one for it here. I'm still working on it. I haven't yet decided if I should include a blog written by Ortved [11] in which he says that Brooks and Fox tried to stop him from writing it. I'm hoping a more reliable source will come up. -- Scorpion 0422 22:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been slowly expanding the article, and it's already a pretty good size - possibly within GA reach. Who knows, maybe some day it could be a FA (though it would need some comments from the staff). I have a question for Gran2, Theleftorium, and anyone else outside the US of A or Canada. Is the book still called The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History? And who is the publisher (if anyone could give me a link to that publisher's page on the book, it would be great. 99% of my google searches are turning up sales websites). -- Scorpion 0422 19:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
A trivia list which has had the bullet points removed and made to superficially resemble a paragraph is still a trivia list. That's exactly what most "cultural references" sections on individual episode articles are. Even "Good Articles" like Lisa's Rival suffer from this. Has this phenomenon ever been addressed at WikiProject The Simpsons? Mike R ( talk) 19:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Cape Feare was kept as an FA. Well done everyone! :) The leftorium 21:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
List of The Simpsons couch gags has been listed at AfD so please leave your comments there. I really don't see the point in having this page, to be honest, but that's just my opinion. The leftorium 21:43, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello. In this article it says that Dr. Nick is Argentinian. Do you have any reference for this? Does the character mention it in any episode? I know that I should post this message in Talk:Nick Riviera, but no registered users seem to comment there. Thanks in advance for the answers. Mel 23 ( talk) 00:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thse anybody own the simpsons book where they analiys lisa-- Pedro J. the rookie 21:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
well there are three i think Planet Simpson, The Simpsons and Philosophy: The D'oh! of Homer and well no i think there is no more, but if there is could you tell me.-- Pedro J. the rookie 01:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
As we discussed earlier, we would like to get a TFA on either December 17, 2009 or January 14, 2010, to commemorate the 20th year of the show. Of our current FAs, the ones that haven't been TFA already that make the most sense are Homer Simpson or Bart Simpson. Not just because they are the main characters, but because they made their post-Ullman debuts on December 17, which directly ties them to that day. As such, it would be a preferable day to January 14, but what might count against us is that The Simpsons was the TFA on December 17, 2007. I'm not sure what the policy is, but some might object to it because of that. It should be noted that Homer's page has been a FA longer, which might count in its favour.
Here is my proposed blurb for Homer:
And Bart:
Feel free to make any necessary changes. If anyone has any other ideas for a potential TFA, please let me know. -- No TV and no beer make Scorpion 0422 something something 21:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the James L. Brooks part will be a bit confusing for people not familiar with the backstory. Wouldn't the blurb below be better? The leftorium 18:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that is much better. Shorter too. -- Scorpion 0422 18:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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Homer Simpson has been scheduled as the TFA for December 17 and will be the second Simpsons page to run on that day. Please check over the blurb, and if anyone has a chance, it might not hurt to go over the article again. -- Scorpion 0422 00:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
It only lasted 3 1/2 hours before the image was removed. It's really not worth the effort of trying to get it re-added. -- Scorpion 0422 03:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
3 hours, 40 minutes in and the page has now been semi-protected. It seems a little premature to me because there was really only one vandal. I'd also like to remind everyone to keep an eye on the Simpsons watchlist [12] today because I have noticed more activity on Simpsons pages. -- Scorpion 0422 03:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
The ratings are in: 82,000 views. [13]. That's actually a bit of a disappointment because Treehouse of Horror (series) had 102,000 views the day it was featured (October 31, 2008) [14], Troy McClure had 133,000 on May 28, 2008 [15] and The Simpsons had 130,000 on December 17, 2007 [16]. The media attention from the 20th anniversary combined with the TFA did give a huge boost to other Simpsons pages, including The Simpsons (just under 30,000 views [17]), Dan Castellaneta (28,200 [18]), Matt Groening (10,900 [19]), Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire (3,700 [20]), The Tracey Ullman Show (7,700 [21]), Good Night (The Simpsons short) (7,200 [22]) and the rest of the Simpson family (Bart - 8,100 [23], Marge - 6,100 [24], Lisa - 4,600 [25], Maggie - 4,500 [26]. if that doesn't sound like a lot, consider that those pages average about 500 views per day). Hell, even The Day of the Locust got a big boost in viewers. It's a good thing that almost all of those pages are at least GAs, hopefully the users that decided to check out other Simpsons pages were impressed. -- Scorpion 0422 00:35, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Which is ironic because they were created when the categories were deleted (and most users said "More appropriate as a template"). I'm rather annoyed because the project wasn't notified about it (and we should have, considering how many pages it affects). Should we ask for a review? -- Scorpion 0422 00:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello to everyone at the WikiProject for the The Simpsons! This is to let you know that The Great Wife Hope has successfully passed its GAR. Congratulations to everybody that worked on it. Keep up the good work. -- Nyx aus 16:00, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I've nominated this category for deletion. The discussion is here CTJF83 chat 20:40, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
For those curious, this is what our article assessment chart looked like on December 31, 2006:
And for those curious, the 2 Featured quality articles we had at the end of 2006 were The Simpsons and List of The Simpsons episodes, while the GA was Homer Simpson.
The Simpsons articles |
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2 | 2 | |||||
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1 | 1 | |||||
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1 | 1 | |||||
B | 6 | 26 | 15 | 8 | 55 | ||
Start | 2 | 28 | 415 | 64 | 27 | 536 | |
Stub | 5 | 22 | 84 | 53 | 164 | ||
Unassessed | |||||||
Total | 11 | 60 | 452 | 156 | 80 | 759 |
This is what it looked like on December 31, 2007:
For those curious, these are the GAs & featured content we had at the end of 2007.
The Simpsons articles |
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2 | 9 | 7 | 1 | 19 | ||
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1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | |||
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2 | 6 | 59 | 67 | |||
B | 4 | 17 | 9 | 4 | 34 | ||
Start | 1 | 32 | 385 | 69 | 3 | 490 | |
Stub | 1 | 23 | 108 | 19 | 151 | ||
Assessed | 10 | 66 | 484 | 182 | 22 | 764 | |
Total | 10 | 66 | 484 | 182 | 22 | 764 |
And this is what it looked like on December 31, 2008:
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4 | 1 | 10 | 15 | |||
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1 | 11 | 1 | 1 | 14 | ||
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2 | 3 | 5 | ||||
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4 | 8 | 121 | 3 | 136 | ||
B | 15 | 8 | 5 | 28 | |||
C | 7 | 10 | 2 | 19 | |||
Start | 19 | 319 | 59 | 2 | 399 | ||
Stub | 1 | 25 | 119 | 22 | 167 | ||
List | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | |||
Assessed | 9 | 65 | 498 | 191 | 24 | 787 | |
Total | 9 | 65 | 498 | 191 | 24 | 787 |
and here's what it looks like now:
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4 | 3 | 13 | 1 | 21 | ||
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1 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 15 | ||
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1 | 3 | 4 | ||||
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4 | 13 | 195 | 7 | 219 | ||
B | 1 | 14 | 13 | 6 | 34 | ||
C | 4 | 28 | 5 | 37 | |||
Start | 12 | 243 | 60 | 2 | 317 | ||
Stub | 1 | 21 | 120 | 18 | 160 | ||
List | 4 | 1 | 2 | 7 | |||
Assessed | 10 | 64 | 518 | 202 | 20 | 814 | |
Total | 10 | 64 | 518 | 202 | 20 | 814 |
Pretty good. In 2008, we added 83 GAs, 6 FAs (which is on par with the number added in 2008), 1 FL, 4 GTs and reduced our number of start class pages by 82 (not as good as 2008 when we shrank the number by 91). There was even shrinkage in the stub category, which went down by seven. We saw the addition of only one character article GA ( The Itchy & Scratchy Show, though Sideshow Bob made FA) but saw the remaining five cast members promoted to GA (and Nancy Cartwright was also pushed to FA), Phil Hartman promoted to FA, plus James L. Brooks, George Meyer and some animators (like Dan Povenmire) went to GA. We also branched out into merchandise, two video game articles were promoted to FA, and My Life as a 10-Year-Old Boy made GA. We even saw alt.tv.simpsons promoted to GA. Our one FL was The Simpsons (season 14), and hopefully we can get some other season pages promoted this year. We also had a number of DYKs and Homer Simpson made TFA on December 17.
I also set some (unofficial) goals:
The amount of content promoted went down in the fall, due to several of us going back to school. We also came close to losing Cape Feare, one of our first episode GAs and very first episode FA. But, all in all, I'd say that 2009 was another good year for the Simpsons WikiProject. -- Scorpion 0422 22:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Some possible goals:
-- Scorpion 0422 02:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
...has been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Non-English versions of The Simpsons. The leftorium 17:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Just did a bit of reading and stumbled upon the fact that we've got until September to get another FA in the topic or it will be demoted to GT. Are we fine with this, or should we get to work on getting that third FA? The Flash {talk} 23:24, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, the documentary is on next Sunday, and the bitterness within me is kicking in when I read things like this [27] that they did come to England to interview people, but couldn't be bothered to talk to me. They even talked to the kid who had the Hiemlich done on him because his friend saw it on the show, which I'm certain they wouldn't have found out about unless it was mentioned in the " Homer at the Bat" article. So my thoughts turned to the question of whether we will even get a tiny mention: I think the answer to that is, no. Gran 2 17:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Nope, we didn't get mentioned. They barely even talked about the show's huge popularity on the internet (there was a thirty second bit in which they talked about the people who complain on messageboards). -- Scorpion 0422 02:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
As of late, users have taken to adding a ratings table to the main article. For example: [28], [29] and [30]. These tables are always incomplete, and use questionable and unreliable sources. I've always maintained that seasonal ratings have no impact on a show like The Simpsons. It's not like it was a constantly highly rated show, which would make the ratings be of more interest. Considering how big the article is, such a table is basically just space wasting trivia. True, we do include ratings in episode pages, but I think ratings says more about a single episode than they do about a season. Either way, I thought I would bring this up here to try to get more opinions. -- Scorpion 0422 04:46, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
BBC has a neat top 10 classic episodes article. It is probably worth adding a note in the 10 episode articles about this nod. Nergaal ( talk) 19:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I probably missed the discussion, but we only have one Featured topic now?! Are we planning on reclaiming GT and making them FT? CTJF83 chat 03:51, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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This article is due to be deleted; is there a place within the Wikiproject where the content can be integrated? THF ( talk) 13:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
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Guess we should make this a target. Gran 2 08:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Mark Ervin has been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Ervin. -- Scorpion 0422 01:35, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I've started this article. THF ( talk) 13:49, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
And now a user has added the billboard gag to the infobox [31]. My rationale for keeping it out has always been that it is in a small portion of episodes, and why should it infobox status over other recurring credits jokes? Why not add a sax solo field? Or a "Ralph's one-liner" field? Or a "Whatever flies across the screen at the beginning" field? Hell, why not a "Is it the long, medium or short version of the opening? Either way, the infobox should only contain fields that either apply to every episode, or could/will apply to every episode (The commentary field is kind of pushing it, but in theory, there will some day be a commentary for every episode (I very highly doubt that they will go back and add billboard gags for every episode). Otherwise, giving the joke a spot in the infobox when the opening credits has numerous other jokes is undue weight. -- Scorpion 0422 04:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
There was a time when I vehemently opposed the deletion of this list, but now I really could care less. I think I'm going to stay out of this one. Users (mostly editors who focus on other television shows) like to say that Simpsons content is allowed to skirt around guidelines and have crufty useless pages. When they say this, that list is generally what they focus on and they ignore all of the great content that we have generated (because after all, one controversial list means all content relating to a topic sucks, right?). It's not my favourite list, and I really wouldn't miss it (because it is hard to maintain), but it does have its uses (and it is the project's 51st most viewed page, so obviously some users find it useful).
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Simpsons couch gags (2nd nomination) couch gags this time. CTJF83 chat 04:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone use the Simpsons IRC room anymore? CTJF83 chat 19:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Please would appreciate others to weigh in here. There is some insistence on adding something non-noteworthy to this article. Cirt ( talk) 03:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Incoherent ramblings:
Well I've been doing some biographies this week. Some are pretty GA ready ( Mike Scully, Rich Appel, Matt Selman) but still need some work and expansion (if anybody can find any more sources on these three, then great). Others are not that far off ( David Mirkin and Mike Reiss, need expanding and cleaning up, but getting there, and Left is working Al Jean). I've done alot of the 'unsourced' bios, to save them from eventual deletion (see section above) but most of those will remain start class for now.
Anyway, my main point is outlining the future biography targets we need to work on (from the point of view of importance and also sheer doability as potential GAs): Sam Simon, Jon Vitti, Greg Daniels, John Swartzwelder, David Silverman, David X. Cohen, Bill Oakley, Josh Weinstein and Brad Bird, as well as possibly a few others. Due his recent 'drama' Conan's page has been pretty much done by other people, which is great. So there we go, I'm going to try and finish up Scully, Appel, Selman, Mirkin and Reiss (as said, if anybody can find some more sources or anything that'd really help). Then I'm probably going to try and work on Sam Simon, help would be appreciated there, especially when it comes to adding the stuff from Ortved's book because I've misplaced my copy. Gran 2 14:55, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
If it helps, Rich Appel was interviewed for Ortved's book, so you might be able to get some bits of information out of that. Excellent work, by the way. -- Scorpion 0422 19:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Do you guys think we could get a "The Simpsons show runners" GT? The leftorium 14:19, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
There are just eight articles (six from season 3, two from season 2) in the way of us completing the Featured Topic Drive for seasons two and three, and puts us within striking distance of achieving the once unobtainable goal of getting every classic era episode to GA. I think we should get one big push together and try to finish those articles before the end of the month. Unfortunately, my reading week is over, but I'll pitch in where I can (I think I'll have time to work on one tomorrow).
Here's what's left:
-- Scorpion 0422 23:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
At The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular, the DVD commentary is used as the source that Silverman used "Pound Foolish" as a pseudonym. However, it's not mentioned there. I've done some google searching, and I can't find a reliable source that says it. If we remove Silverman and just say that it's directed by "Pound Foolish", it wouldn't be long until an IP replaced it. Perhaps someone else will have better luck finding a source, otherwise, should it just be removed? -- Scorpion 0422 01:44, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, looks like the FT criteria is increasing on September 1 to half (instead of one third) that need to be FA. We should work on (at least) one more family member so Wikipedia:Featured topics/Simpson family will still be a FT in 6 months with the new criteria. We can finish season 2 and 3 drive first if you guys want. CTJF83 chat 20:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I think Lisa's page is ready to go, so I'll nominate it at FAC soon. If anyone has a chance, could they please look through the article? Thanks, Scorpion 0422 19:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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Hey guys, new to the project, it seems you're all doing an ace job. Was just thinking, maybe adding in a 'catchphrase' field to the character template might be cool. If left blank it wouldn't show up, characters can have listed multiple catchphrases. Homer's is "D'oh!", Barney's is just a belch, Dr. Nick's is "Hi everybody!" etc etc. Obviously there are some which could be considered catchphrases but aren't as recognisable and so shouldn't be included. Just a suggestion! Autonova ( talk) 14:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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-- Scorpion 0422 19:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
After looking through, I think the pages for Sternin, Ventimilia and Richdale should be kept as they are.
I think Sosa and Oliver are just under the threshold, as they don't appear to have a lot of other credits.
Goldreyer, Pulido, Richardson and Pepoon appear to have notability due to their extensive credits, but all three pages would need more sourcing. -- Scorpion 0422 19:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Season two has been nominated at Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/The Simpsons (season 2)/archive1. Nice work everyone! :) The leftorium 22:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Why do we not have a project coordinator? I just became aware of the position, here is the LGBT example, should we elect someone? CTJF83 chat 21:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
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User:Scorpion0422 is now the WikiProject coordinator. Done. :P --
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Twenty-one subcategories of Category:The Simpsons episodes have been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ( talk) 18:24, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Ladies and gentlemen, after over three years of work, we have finally achieved one of our earliest goals: Getting every classic era episode of the show to GA status. It began in early 2007 with Homerpalooza and it ends April 19, 2010 with Homer Defined. Now we have to work at making sure we don't lose any of our early GAs. -- Scorpion 0422 23:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken that's the first time Raul's just picked one of our articles, without it going through the requests page first. Keep a watch out tomorrow. Gran 2 13:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
For those curious, the article ended up getting 65,000 views [33]. Not bad for a page that normally gets 100-150 views. -- Scorpion 0422 03:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
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Recently an editor removed all the tags from all the various Simpsons books (such as Book:Treehouse of Horror, Book:The Simpsons (season 1),) etc... saying that the project only tags mainspace articles.
I'm not saying it's wrong to only tag mainspace articles, but why would you not tag books? These are considered part of content-space (although not mainspace), and need to be monitored for POV issues, style, presentation etc... Not tagging them would also cause the project to miss out on deletion discussions (should they happen) through WP:AALERTS and similar things, and will make it harder for editors looking to notify relevant people about discussions related to books on The Simpsons.
Since many of you may not know about books, I've place links to the various Signpost stories that talked about them. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 01:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
This is a WP:GA article. I have helped to get it to that quality status, so I would rather not myself get into a fracas here. Perhaps another editor could take a look at this recent issue? Thank you for your time, -- Cirt ( talk) 05:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
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Please feel free to add it to all WP:GA rated articles within this WikiProject, in the same manner of placement used as {{ featured article}}. Thanks for all of your quality improvement work within the topic of this WikiProject! :) Cheers, -- Cirt ( talk) 15:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I'm planning on reviving the Futurama Wikiproject. And since Futurama and The Simpsons are both made by Matt Groening, I've decided to ask any members of this project to join. So uh... anybody wanna join? GamerPro64 ( talk) 20:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Do editors check this for vandalism, unsourced additions, etc? I catch things on here from time to time. Cheers, -- Cirt ( talk) 04:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone wanting to continue our drives? I would like one day for every episode page to be at least GA. CTJF83 pride 03:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
FYI, I don't see that anyone has notified this wikiproject of this discussion. Jclemens ( talk) 02:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Solar Dragon ( talk · contribs) added links to the Simpsons wikia to a bunch of pages. Since he tagged so many, I figured it was worth discussing. WP:ELNO #12 says "Links normally to be avoided: Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors. Mirrors or forks of Wikipedia should not be linked."
And I think the Simpsons wikia does not meet that. Considering that Lostpedia, one of the finest fansites on the internet, isn't linked on Lost pages, I don't see how WikiSimpsons meets that. And that isn't intended to be a knock at the editors of that wikia, but very few of the pages there are complete. In fact, some of the wikia pages linked to, like Reverend Timothy Lovejoy, copied text from their wikipedia equivalents. -- Scorpion 0422 01:21, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I didn't start a discussion on your talk page because I wasn't around when you were doing it. I figured that starting one here would allow for a wider range of opinions. As an example, Reverend Lovejoy contains quite a bit of copied text from wikipedia, yet it's nominated to be one of your featured articles. And, actually, it is quite possible for a wikia to be better than wikipedia. I pointed out Lostpedia, and Gran pointed out Wookiepedia and Memory Alpha, all three of which are excellent sites. WikiSimpsons is improving, but it still has a long way to go.
Either way, this is not about the quality of the site, it's about whether it should be linked, and policy says no. -- Scorpion 0422 13:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I have removed from several Simpsons episode articles citations to Ariel Ponywether's episode reviews on Firefox News (firefox.org), which is a fanblog site. A fan review should not be cited as though it were professional critical commentary. Thanks, The Hero of This Nation ( talk) 11:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I know I've been saying this for about two years, but I think the article is nearing FA quality. I've slowly been improving it, and I think it's just about ready. All I need to do is one more sweep for sources, and a copyedit (or three). So, if anyone could take a look at it for me, I'd appreciate it. However, this really isn't a great time for me to nominate things. I just got back from an eight day trip, and I have a few other trips coming up in the not-too-distant future (including some time next week). I want to try to get it done while I have it my mind (because if I put it off until later it will probably take me another year to do it), so if I nominated it this week, would someone be able to watch the FAC for me after I left? -- Scorpion 0422 23:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
I have been working on a list of guest stars on The Simpsons on-and-off for a while now and am not yet finished. At one point I quit, seeing as how there is no way to reference the guest stars pass season 14—the Complete Guide to Our Favorite Family books end on that season and the official website's episode guide doesn't list guest star appearances pass like season 10. But when I saw that Simpsons World The Ultimate Episode Guide: Seasons 1-20 was coming out, I decided to put back on working on the list. If anyone objects to the List of guest stars looking like this or has any input, let me know. Otherwise, I'll try to have the list ready by October, when the book comes out, so by then all that has to be added are the references. Yes, it will be a long list and will probably have to be split up, but for a show that has been running for 21 seasons, I think it's warranted. Tj terrorible1 ( talk) 14:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
IMHO, too many characters have their own articles. There are what, 30 characters with their own articles? In that spirit, I've nominated 6 ancillary characters ( Professor Frink, Radioactive Man, Cletus, Rainier Wolfcastle, Lionel Hutz, and Nick Riviera for deletion) Purple backpack89 18:34, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
To bad we couldn't have done a DYK. [36] - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) 16:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Please participate at Talk:The Simpsons: Minutes to Meltdown. Theleftorium (talk) 13:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Yay us! Hopefully someday we'll have more GAs than start-class articles. Theleftorium (talk) 14:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Is anybody interested in continuing the topic drives? Some limited interest was shown for the season 10, but that is not going very well. Other alternatives would be:
Thoughts? Nergaal ( talk) 18:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay after ten minutes careful consideration, I propose the following character article suggestions:
Discuss these crazy ramblings. Gran 2 19:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't like the idea of splitting the recurring characters page - it makes it a lot harder to navigate. I think we could just trim it a bit. We're able to explain Homer's role and personality in just six paragraphs, so there's not reason why a character like Jebediah Springfield needs such a large section devoted to him. I wouldn't be against merging the celebrities page, but again there would be length issues.
I'd have no problem with deleting the animals page. Snowball probably could be merged, but I'd say leave SLH for now. I'd also have no problem with losing the fictional characters page. I once tried to nominate it for deletion, but was unable to because there was a freeze on afds because of the arbcom case (and I just forgot about it). I'm not sure about merging Lenny and Carl, but I'd certainly have no problem with Martin Prince, Cletus and Moleman being merged. -- Scorpion 0422 19:01, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
That they mention wikipedia a few times! I'm through the first three discs and this is what we have:
I'm back, by the way. -- Scorpion 0422 18:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Another one:
I'm not sure how many people monitor WP:MOSTV or even WP:TV (the basic WikiProject for all of us), but we've been trying to get some feedback on additions to the TV Manual of Style. It largely has to do with the inclusion of "Overview" tables at the start of the page, the order in which season lists are presented (currently, there is no concrete order), and what is considered too much info for DVDs (i.e. should we be placing every detail about the box set in the article, from each interview to the aspect ratio, or should be keep it more generalized). Please see discussion at WT:MOSTV#Updates to the MOS. Thank you. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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And this is annoying because a number of articles, mainly GAs & FAs, use those pages as a reference. The new links are like this: http://www.thesimpsons.com/recaps/season3/#episode1 rather than http://www.thesimpsons.com/episode_guide/0301.htm . Perhaps we should start fixing some of the dead links. -- Scorpion 0422 01:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure how many of you know about this link...
But I found http://dsudesign.wordpress.com/2010/09/14/storyboarding-resources/ which links to http://www.animationmeat.com/pdf/televisionanimation/strybrd_the_simpsonsway.pdf , which discusses how the Simpsons is storyboarded. WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I am reviewing the GA candidate, Bill Oakley. It is pretty close, but needs a bit of copyediting — specifically, with regard to run-on sentences, and sentences that are a bit too long, and also in some places overusage of commas, and see also some other GA Review recommendations, at Talk:Bill Oakley/GA1. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt ( talk) 10:24, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Simpsons World The Ultimate Episode Guide: Seasons 1–20 is now available in Canada and the US of A. It should be a useful resource, but it's not cheap. The listed price for Chapters is $170 (Canadian), which is... Quite a bit for a book. A local library has a copy so I'm going to borrow that, so if anyone has any requests for sourcing, let me know. -- Scorpion0422 II ( Talk) 18:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Back when I first nominated the Treehouse of Horror (series) page at FAC, a user asked if it was the first step towards a THOH FT. I said no, but now I think it might not be a bad idea. The project hasn't had a big collaboration in a while due to our finishing of the season FT drives, and this might be a good one. According to Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons/Featured topic Drive/ToH, episodes 1-8, and 19 are GAs. Kang and Kodos (which might be a good idea to include) is also a GA. So, that means we have 12 other articles. THOH episodes are generally the second most promoted episode of a season (after the premiere), so sources shouldn't be too difficult to find. There are also DVD commentaries for 9-12. Is there any interest in tackling this and getting it done before the year ends? -- "Don't blame me, I voted for Scorpion 0422" 15:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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On one of the DVD commentaries for the 13th season, the producers made a joke about killing off Fat Tony and replacing him with his cousin Fit Tony, who then gains weight and becomes known as Fat Tony. Sounds ridiculous, right? Well, of course, they actually went ahead and did it in Donnie Fatso. So now Fat Tony is dead and we now have Fit Tony, except that he looks exactly like Fat Tony and is in fact now called Fat Tony.
So, how do we treat this? Do we make the Fat Tony page specific to the old character, then create a "Fit Tony" section at the recurring character page, or do we keep info on both characters in the same page? And it does appear that Fat/Fit/whatever Tony will return, because there is an episode in the copyright database called "The Real Housewives of Fat Tony". -- Scorpion 0422 04:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
No updates since August 2010 - someone care to do the honors? :) -- Cirt ( talk) 19:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
In case you haven't noticed, The Simpsons Game is the TFA for today. I don't know if this is on purpose or a coincidence, but December 17 is also the anniversary of the airing of Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire. So, this is the third Simpsons article to make the main page on this day after The Simpsons in 2007 and Homer Simpson last year. -- Scorpion 0422 04:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Please see diff link. Thoughts? -- Cirt ( talk) 03:47, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes folks, Homer's Enemy has been scheduled to be the TFA on January 6. This means that there will have been 2, yes TWO Simpsons articles on the main page within a three week timeframe. This, of course, means that wikipedia will self-destruct and it could also mean the end of the world, we just don't know yet.
This being said, perhaps we should try fixing the article up a bit because it doesn't look up to par with our newer episode FAs. -- Scorpion 0422 16:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
I've expanded the article, so now it looks much better than it used to, although more copyediting never hurts. It could also use some more reception, but I think it's pretty much ready for the main page. -- Scorpion 0422 18:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Homer's Enemy was viewed 65,200 times during its stint on the main page. [38]. For comparison, The Simpsons Game had 48,200 views last month [39]. -- Scorpion 0422 16:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
For those curious, this is what our article assessment chart looked like on December 31, 2006:
And for those curious, the 2 Featured quality articles we had at the end of 2006 were The Simpsons and List of The Simpsons episodes, while the GA was Homer Simpson.
The Simpsons articles |
Importance | ||||||
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Class | |||||||
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2 | 2 | |||||
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1 | 1 | |||||
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1 | 1 | |||||
B | 6 | 26 | 15 | 8 | 55 | ||
Start | 2 | 28 | 415 | 64 | 27 | 536 | |
Stub | 5 | 22 | 84 | 53 | 164 | ||
Unassessed | |||||||
Total | 11 | 60 | 452 | 156 | 80 | 759 |
This is what it looked like on December 31, 2007:
For those curious, these are the GAs & featured content we had at the end of 2007.
The Simpsons articles |
Importance | ||||||
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
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2 | 9 | 7 | 1 | 19 | ||
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1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | |||
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2 | 6 | 59 | 67 | |||
B | 4 | 17 | 9 | 4 | 34 | ||
Start | 1 | 32 | 385 | 69 | 3 | 490 | |
Stub | 1 | 23 | 108 | 19 | 151 | ||
Assessed | 10 | 66 | 484 | 182 | 22 | 764 | |
Total | 10 | 66 | 484 | 182 | 22 | 764 |
And this is what it looked like on December 31, 2008:
The Simpsons articles |
Importance | ||||||
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
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4 | 1 | 10 | 15 | |||
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1 | 11 | 1 | 1 | 14 | ||
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2 | 3 | 5 | ||||
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4 | 8 | 121 | 3 | 136 | ||
B | 15 | 8 | 5 | 28 | |||
C | 7 | 10 | 2 | 19 | |||
Start | 19 | 319 | 59 | 2 | 399 | ||
Stub | 1 | 25 | 119 | 22 | 167 | ||
List | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | |||
Assessed | 9 | 65 | 498 | 191 | 24 | 787 | |
Total | 9 | 65 | 498 | 191 | 24 | 787 |
and this is from December 31, 2009:
The Simpsons articles |
Importance | ||||||
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Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
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4 | 3 | 13 | 1 | 21 | ||
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1 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 15 | ||
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1 | 3 | 4 | ||||
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4 | 13 | 195 | 7 | 219 | ||
B | 1 | 14 | 13 | 6 | 34 | ||
C | 4 | 28 | 5 | 37 | |||
Start | 12 | 243 | 60 | 2 | 317 | ||
Stub | 1 | 21 | 120 | 18 | 160 | ||
List | 4 | 1 | 2 | 7 | |||
Assessed | 10 | 64 | 518 | 202 | 20 | 814 | |
Total | 10 | 64 | 518 | 202 | 20 | 814 |
And here it is now:
The Simpsons articles by quality and importance | |||||
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Quality | Importance | ||||
Top | High | Mid | Low | Total | |
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4 | 3 | 13 | 1 | 21 |
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1 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 15 |
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1 | 3 | 4 | ||
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4 | 13 | 211 | 11 | 239 |
B | 1 | 15 | 34 | 9 | 59 |
C | 5 | 41 | 10 | 56 | |
Start | 11 | 221 | 57 | 289 | |
Stub | 1 | 13 | 124 | 138 | |
List | 3 | 2 | 4 | 9 | |
Assessed | 10 | 64 | 539 | 217 | 830 |
Total | 10 | 64 | 539 | 217 | 830 |
Well, after the spectacular improvements we saw in previous years, 2010 seems rather disappointing. No gains at all in FAs, FLs or A class articles and "only" 20 new GAs. I think this is largely due to the end of our featured topic drives because now every episode from seasons 1-9 are GA or higher. However, we saw a marked improvement amongst our crew member pages thanks to Gran2, which is largely responsible for diriving up our number of B and C class pages. Our stub count also went down by 22. All in all, it was a good year, but lets try to do better in 2011. -- Scorpion 0422 22:20, 3 January 2011 (UTC)