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Am I justified in removing these links? -- NE2 00:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
beingahuman.blogspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
See also WP:ANI#Blatant linkspammer and self promoter needs blocking. MER-C 02:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
scifipedia.scifi.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
COI spamming, but may have encyclopedic value. MER-C 06:33, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
oasisfanatic.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
MER-C 06:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
We would like to get input on the appropriateness of an external link in the article on Straw-bale construction. There is discussion here and a poll here. Comments prior to August 3, 2007 would be appreciated. Thanks. see also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam/2007_Archive_Jul#http:.2F.2Fspam.naturalhomes.org-- Hu12 11:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Videmus Omnia Talk 21:19, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Spam and coi problems that I don't have time to follow up at the moment. -- Ronz 05:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Another spam & coi case. -- Ronz 05:15, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Spam domains
Also owned by Evergreen Internet Services:
Accounts (partial list):
Blacklist request:
-- A. B. (talk) 05:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Another spam case. Probably coi too. -- Ronz 05:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.resultsfromtennis.com
http://spam.resultsfromfootball.com
Might have encyclopedic value, judging by the amount of links (0, 50, 15, 34 respectively). MER-C 07:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
olyblog.net: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
MER-C 07:55, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Not fully investigated, there may be more accounts or similar links. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 09:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
User 212.17.64.245 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) is pushing links to www.bossanovamusic.net (earlier bitencourt.net) and has a history of mainly adding links (and deleting some others). After blacklisting of bossanovamusic.net on shadowbot the user switched to the old link bitencourt.net (also blacklisted)
212.17.64.245 is an IP in Vienna, user admits that s/he is travelling, and will probably change IP when s/he is in another place. The bots are watching. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 23:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
This has been an ongoing PR effort on Wikipedia for over 18 months.
Links:
Accounts:
Spam articles created as blatant advertising and deleted by Wikipedia administrators:
Articles vandalized:
Firoano Software's notability: A Google search on "fiorano software" -ferrari -modenese -samsonite -modena
-- A. B. (talk) 21:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Cross-wiki spam:
Accounts:
Spammed domains:
Affiliated domains:
Registrants:
References:
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(crossposted from User:AntiSpamBot/Blacklist_requests
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Looks like spam to me, would someone please look at - I don't have time for a few days to clean these up, thanks.
-- CliffC 21:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Out of boredom I was browsing what linked to my page and I found this: Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/muppet.wikia.com. I'm not exactly sure why this happened. The edit I was doing was reverting someone else's vandalism of the whole article? Did I just get put up on some kind of spamwatch? - WarthogDemon 00:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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COI Spam:
add future wrestling events with a non-specific reference (to the mainpage of prowrestlingsyndicate.com) as 'source'. It feels more like promoting the event than adding content.
All additions have been cleaned, one main-space link left, which is also a non-specific reference (to the domain), but I don't think it is the same user who added it. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 08:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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Conflict of interest and Spamming sites:
-- Dirk Beetstra T C 06:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
This is an employment agency and a closely-linked private currency seller/creator. The three accounts have added text and their ELs into Career, Career management, Private currency, and so on. So far they have created two special articles all their own, which I speedy deleted:
I'm sure they'll be back. -- Krakatoa Katie 08:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
For the record:
-- Dirk Beetstra T C 08:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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(This text is taken from the Uffizi Gallery website, available under Creative Commons License.)<ref> "Pieter Codde", Virtual Uffizi, 2007, <www.virtualuffizi.com/biography/Pieter%2DCodde.htm></ref>
Inapropriate entries and additions such as this, this, this, this this, this, this, this, this, this and this example;
“ | This entry uses text from the Virtual Uffizi Website, under Creative Commons License.<ref>[http://www.virtualuffizi.com/biography/Jacopo%2Dda%2DSellaio.htm Biography of Sellaio at the Virtual Uffizi Website, www.virtualuffizi.com]</ref> . | ” |
— User:Sophruhig Vita@comcast.net |
In the above example is the same as signing an article. and serves no other purpose tha to promote the Uffizi Website Spamming is about promoting your own site or a site you love, not always about commercial sites. Links to commercial sites are often appropriate. Links to sites for the purpose of using Wikipedia to promote a site are not.-- Hu12 13:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Spammed and edited by several IPs in the 172.128.0.0/10 range (America Online, Dulles, VA, US) to a series of video games. Users also have a tendency to change from UK-EN to US-EN. dds.dekaja.net is a forum site.
Users:
User:COIBot is watching \bdekaja\.net, there may be other forums there. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 13:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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Also 'spamming' wikilinks to 'see also' sections. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 16:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I am confused at what the problem is here. Have i done somethign wrong?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleepheads78 ( talk • contribs)
I am the same. If my links are a problem I will delete them, but Preservation is a real organization. The Flagler Whitehall Museum has similar links on their wiki page and they seem to have received no problem. I am trying ot give teh foundation a wiki page so people know wht it is.
May I try again???
Anyone there?? Anyone at work???
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Thank you kindly.
This time with a joola site:
<p style="font-size: 10in; left: -50px; width: 100%; position: absolute; top: -50px; height: 100%; font-color: transparent">[http://ximutufiz.joolo.com/]</p>
Is this text enabled somewhere on a anti-vandal-bot? -- Dirk Beetstra T C 18:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
ccwaters 19:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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Account almost exclusively used for link additions; most links are to india-crafts.com:
Links:
-- Dirk Beetstra T C 10:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
→ See also: Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#promotional_additions_for_Dr._Gary_Berger User:CHTRCwebmaster/Sandbox
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bluesummers.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
MER-C 13:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
This link gets pushed by a series of IPs. The last addition was accompanied by the remark "link added back in - excess income donated to wiki by site as not for profit spelling will be checked and more chains will be added". The page Microdermabrasion seems to be a willing target for spammers.
I guess these are independent sets:
Number 1:
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I may have missed some here, I have the page on my watchlist now. I noticed that some of the IPs also target other pages. For some of the links I would recommend direct blacklisting. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 14:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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83.29.0.0/16 is Neostrada Plus, Krakow, PL (Poland). -- Dirk Beetstra T C 15:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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Site may be useful, but gets spammed. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 17:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
adds link
User has left a message on my talkpage, though is still adding the link. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 17:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
81.155.225.76 is adding links to pages which end in site.com or moving them to the top of the list. Some of these were added earlier.
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These additions/alterations cleaned. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 23:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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MER-C 11:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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MER-C 13:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Spamming after several warnings over the last months.
users: IvyIQTest100 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
-- Dirk Beetstra T C 14:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Any opinions on this article?-- Hu12 15:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I added a MIX Market reference. Claiming Kiva is spam is a bit much. RichardF 16:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Here are some WP:SPA accounts that appear to have conflict of interests.
74.76.24.247 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is repeatedly spamming the same link. How do I get them blocked? IPSOS ( talk) 17:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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OK, thanks for your answer. You are the master here. But I just want to say it is not a spam link as you say, it's good work. But I love Wikipedia even if you don't like my site at all.
And I apologize for all the trouble I cause you, sorry it was for a good reason, but you didn't understand. I wanted to make civilization talk together... with a "French touch".
I will do what you tell me to : that is to comment on the blacklisting talk page.
Bye and best regards from France. (I hope you are not too angry about me, I did it with GOOD FAITH).— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanfrancisco31 ( talk • contribs) 01:55, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
This account has about 50 edits so far. About half of them are inserting various links to spam sites. He has made a few worthwhile contributions, for example to GS1. No helpful response to any of my comments to him that his links are unwanted. I assume that posting to WP:AIV is not appropriate since this is not strictly a spam-only account. EdJohnston 03:42, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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MER-C 10:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
These IP have added to "MP3 A lil' Heroes Christmas - POP: with Live-band Production" (tradebit.com/filedetail.php/1739928)
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“ | Tradebit offers an easy and fast digital goods eShop service for anyone selling intangible goods online.
We provide a service to sell downloadable items such as: software, eBooks, music, movies, graphics, manuals and how-tos and anything else that can be downloaded. We deliver your products to your customers instantly after payment, using our completely automated system. Our system operates with PayPal's online payment system, a reliable solution for sending and receiving money for your online business. You can sell anywhere from web sites, to emails, and at auction sites like eBay. We highly integrate eBay with your customized pricing on the fly! You will use YOUR PayPal account, we do not charge ANYTHING additionally on your sale! You may also use Clickbank as your alternative payment provider and tap into the powerful world of affiliate marketing. Tradebit allows you to integrate YOUR affiliates and resellers easily.. |
” |
— www.tradebit.com/layouts/sellfiles.php |
Essentialy these are not links suitable for an encyclopedia-- Hu12 11:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.internetphonereview.net
MER-C 12:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
User Michael Pocock ( talk · contribs) seems to exaggerate a bit in adding EL’s to his website (www.maritimequest.com), 513 now in total. Though there’s some clear WP:COI, most of the links seem to be on topic and the site doesn’t carry adverts. What would be the appropriate action here? Leave it be, inform the user about our policies and guidelines or cleanup? Van helsing 06:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
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-- Dirk Beetstra T C 10:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm still cleaning the additions of the last IP, after that I will be better able to see whether there are more accounts. Regarding the remark on User talk:87.60.236.175#Moral support, the site itself appears not to be spam, but it is the way it is added to the wikipedia ([[WP:WPSPAM: "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam. Although the specific links may be allowed under some circumstances, repeatedly adding links will in most cases result in all of them being removed"). Adding links only is not improving the wikipedia, if the link needs to be mentioned on the page, it can also be mentioned on the talkpage. See also WP:WPSPAM#How not to be a spammer. Dirk Beetstra T C 10:49, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with The Land. While the method of adding links might have triggered alarm bells in anti-spam patrols, the links I've seen go directly to relevant pages with photographs of the vessels in question. The MaritimeQuest site invites contributions of photos, but that doesn't mean that the the contributor would necessarily want to make that contribution GPL - licensing images to WP means they end up getting copied all over the internet and a quick scan shows that many of them seem to have been added as part of a family history quest. The ability to see photographs of the ships is very valuable - embedded image makes the article look pretty but let's remember that we are building an encyclopaedia for researchers to use, and whether they get to the image via a link or embedded in the article makes little difference. The correct place for determination of the relevance or otherwise of these links is the WP:MILHIST, and a consensus should have been agreed there before there was wholesale amendments to articles in its scope. I've noted that other MILHIST editors have reverted some of the link removals so it looks like the consensus is likely to be against removal Viv Hamilton 14:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
From Michael Pocock MaritimeQuest.com owner, First please excuse my lack of response on this page as I was unaware of it but, now that I have found it I will give my response. I see there is a very lively debate pro and con for leaving the links added by myself. I would state first that I have used wikipedia for years and found it most helpful in many respects but I have not until today involved myself in the politics of the site.
The links I have added were added to enhance wikipedia for the user but, of course this promotes my site, I can't see any way around that unless I close my site and just edit wikipedia. I have always found the links to other sites useful because they don't always come up on a search and I know there is one place to go to find them, wikipedia.
I have added links ONLY to the individual page for each vessel listed and yes, have added links to a friends site bismarck-class.dk. He did not know how to add them himself. To remove any links to his site would be a travesty as it is a site built by someone who HAS BEEN TO THE WRECK OF THE BISMARCK itself. I think that is useful don't you?
The links to my site as I have said, and has been pointed out by others, link directly to that vessel. I have worked very hard to collect the best photos of these ships and I believe this has value for the users of wikipedia. I have received many notes from people who found their ship on my site and have credited this from the wikipedia link (such as "I found your site through wikipedia etc.). While this can be seen as promotion of my site they KNOW how they found it.
It has been pointed out that many vessels are not featured as famous and therefore it is difficult to find photos or info on them. They are not glamorous so nobody cares much. There are many not even on wikipedia but if someone can find another site they can and do ask for help, which I always provide. I have made it a point to answer EVERY email no matter how silly and have done so for many people who just can't fine the info any other way and many of them have come through wikipedia I am sure.
I must say before today I have never received a complaint, or at least I have never noticed the note at the top of my screen saying "new message" so I was really unaware of all this going on behind the scene. I had not even read the spam notice before so I can somewhat understand the concern. However wholesale deletion of these links seems to harm the wikipedia pages as it intentionally hides information from users, I would think you would want more links to quality sites not fewer.
I will now address the copyright issue. Many of the photos (especially USN ships) are public domain and therefore can be used by anyone. Since I started the site I have had to remove only 1 picture due to copyright problems and I was offered one to replace it which had a copyright and a watermark on it which I declined. I also receive dozens of photos from contributors from around the world for which they hold the copyright. So to date there has been no copyright problem. Some of them true enough end up on other sites without my permission but, that is one of the hazards on posting them in the first place. I do request them removed from time to time and so far all but one has complied with my request.
I have not posted any of them to wikipedia but I have had requests from others to do so which I agreed to. However I know your primary design is to provide information not photos where is mine is both.
MaritimeQuest will go on and grow no matter your decision however I believe it is a good partnership. I have no adverts on my site, no pop up's, no BS at all. I do have a store but as one of you said it is very small. I am interested in making money because we all have to live but I have not put the time into development of the store because I find it dull. I work for a living my living is not my website, my site is my tribute to all those who sailed, served, built and died on these ships.
I will add no further links because it is a waste of my time to just have them deleted but I say again, it is a loss to wikipedia and it's users. History hidden is history forgotten. Regards, Michael Pocock (PS) Thanks to all who have been standing up for the links, I am very happy you find them of use.)
You should also note that I never posted a link above an exhisting link so mine would be first. If it was last than so be it, if people click on it fine, if they like my site then they will come back, if they don't they won't. Nobody was forcing them to click on the link. Furthermore, I think you will find my site has some of the best photos on the internet, especially of some vessels. I don't know why you don't think this is of any value. BTW the Russian carriers which seems to have sparked this whole problem. The photos are all public domain USDOD photos. Michael Pocock
No, I am not judging the usefulness of the link (I said that it may be useful, I have never said that the site was rubbish, useless, or whatever), I have judged the way these links were added. We are writing an encyclopedia here, not a linkfarm. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 22:49, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I would much, much rather Mr. Pocock add the links himself than post them on the talk page or just tell WP:SHIPS/WP:MILHIST that they're free to link to his site. He does a good job of it and spends a considerable amount of time; this effort improves articles and helps WP:SHIPS and WP:MILHIST. Beetstra, please leave him alone. The people who actually care about the articles that Mr. Pocock edits are very happy that he takes the time to help us improve them. I see no conflict of interest. Per WP:COI, COI editing involves contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote yourself or the interests of other individuals, companies, or groups. Where an editor must forego advancing the aims of Wikipedia in order to advance outside interests, he stands in a conflict of interest. I think accusing Mr. Pocock of contributing just to promote himself is assuming bad faith, and accusing him of attempting to advance his outside interests at Wikipedia's expense is absurd. TomTheHand 14:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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See WP:ANI#SPAM Account. MER-C 08:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
in particular: http://www.babycenter.com/comments/baby/postpartumbeauty/2432 on Stretch marks and now on Pregnancy.
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I haven't reported this here before because I viewed it as a content dispute (and it probably still is, although the IP refuses to discuss the issue and just keeps re-adding the link.) The link is a support forum which doesn't meet WP:EL, the site itself is a portal of sorts on issues relating to pregnancy, childbirth & parenthood. Based on Alexa.com, it would appear the site is somehow related to Johnson & Johnson - possibly a corporate sponsor. It has a fairly high Alexa ranking, appears in Google directory's list of top sites on the subject and the IPs appear to belong to private ISPs - so I'm guessing it isn't COI spam.
There has been a slow revert war going on since December on Stretch marks, which led to the page being semi-protected this morning, then this afternoon - one of the IPs added the same link to Pregnancy. I'm not sure there is much we can do, I'm just recording this here for posterity. -- Versageek 20:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
This seemed like a pretty straightforward case to me, but another user has gone to bat for the sites inclusion; see discussion here. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Although I'm somewhat disappointed that the Wikipedia community has decided against the inclusion of these links and even went as far as blacklisting one of them, I don't think I should get any further involved in this debate, as it's obviously a conflict of interest for me.
However, whether or not I'm affiliated with these sites, I do feel that they contain much more information than what our articles ( firework, fireworks, and consumer fireworks) currently have.
Other editions of Wikipedia may have different policies on external links, but I won't pursue that avenue since that will only make me look like a spammer. I'll let other users decide whether these links should be added to other Wikipedias.
One thing I could do is to ask the webmasters to release some of their sites' content under the GFDL, or better yet, public domain. Even then, much of the content (such as product reviews and forum posts) would be unencyclopedic and thus inappropriate for Wikipedia. -- Ixfd64 22:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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Google Adsense #: 3888230977488499
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See WP:ANI#Spammer. MER-C 02:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Another librarian. See here for previous library/archive discussions (nothing has been resolved as of yet regarding this type of thing).
Katr67 20:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I suggest taking this whole topic to a broader audience such as the administrators' noticeboard and/or the village pump and/or the discussion pages for one of the relevant guidelines ( WP:COI, WP:EL, WP:SPAM). From looking at the prior discussion ( Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2007 Archive Jul#Library links discussions) it looks like this is an issue that will only grow and fester until the broader community reaches some consensus. I'm biased towards being fairly receptive to these links submitted from librarians, but I see several problems from prior link cleanup:
I noted some of the librarians that posted in the previous discussion were dismissive towards regular Wikipedia editors. Wikipedia can really use the expertise of good professional librarians helping here, but from the sorts of thing I've seen, there remains confusion about what we do and how we do it. Some librarians may be confusing us with DMOZ, WikiSource or Commons.
Librarians, as well, really are people, too, and they can get just as excited and enthusiastic about what they've got as anyone else. Promoting their collections may interfere with our goals even if when not motivated by greed.
Perhaps a working group of librarians and editors could start by putting together an essay on the topic.-- A. B. (talk) 21:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
These discussions (as many discussions here) often become heated, with arguments like 'but we have information that wikipedia does not have', and 'we link to reliable, on topic, information'. So I just want to say here: we do want the links. Really! But we are more interested in the information that can be provided. And what we want even more, is the information, with the link as a reference. Because a link without the information is just a tunnel away from this encyclopedia, which does not necessarily improve the article where the link is on. As said, it tunnels to the site, people do not stay on the Wikipedia article, and may not return unless they use the back-button. IMHO, the wikipedia article should be totally stand-alone, containing all the information that one could possibly want (or on more wikipedia articles linked together) with references to reliable sources (as many libraries and other archives are!) which back up that information. And I do understand, there are some things that simply can not be incorporated, but that is not very often the case! And I also do understand that people do not always have time to edit articles, but if one has time to add 10 external links to 10 articles, one also has time to add 2 sentences of information and 1 reference to one article, both should take about 5 minutes.
In that process of adding links, it is best not to set of our spam radar, or our conflict of interest radar. Concerning these 'spam' or 'conflicts of interest', indeed, many of these organisations are not commercial, they do not actively sell something. Still (and I know that what I suggest here is in violation of 'assume good faith'), the efficiency of the organisation is often measured by the number of visitors (which may for higher organisations be a measure for the influx of money to the library/archive; such organisations still do need the money to pay their employees, the building and the heating). Though the linkadditions are meant to improve the Wikipedia, in that process people are invited to visit the linked site, and I think it is in both our interest to try and avoid such implications (even if they are totally untrue and not meant that way). -- Dirk Beetstra T C 07:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
As one example, my original citation was:
I wanted to use a template to try and abide by Wikipedia's standards. I used the fields in the {cite book} template that seemed most appropriate to share information researchers need to make informed decisions about the value of the resource, including author, title, publisher and date. And of course a link to the actual digital edition (not to the library home page, but the actual document being cited). In adding that link, it made sense to me at the time to add our library name and collection as the source of that digital edition.
The changes made to remove the "spam" from the Oregon article resulted in this citation:
As a librarian and educator, I think it's important to include further citation information, both so that the work can be correctly attributed and so that a researcher looking at the entry can decide whether the link is worth pursuing. The date can imply primary or secondary sources, and even the publisher information can show a point of view (our example book is self-published, for example).
Adding an entry for the library is a way of showing the authenticity and value of the selected source as the publisher of the digital version. If the Washington State Library includes a title in its Classics in Washington History Collection, then a researcher might assume that the work is indeed recognized as important and respected material on topics related to the Pacific Northwest.
The use of the Library name also appear in OCLC cataloging records which are created according to professional library standards. The catalog entry for our digitial version of this book includes a MARC 710 field (Added Entry–Corporate Name) due to the Washington State Library's creation and publication of this digitized edition.
If you search OCLC's Worldcat you will see the Library mentioned in several Notes, and "Washington State Library. Classics in Washington History" appears at the top next to the author as a link. Clicking on that link brings up the entire list of books digitized by our library for that collection.
The Library's name is not just "advertising" but rather is part of the information about this particular edition. That's why it's been included in the catalog record and why I think it should be included in the citation in Wikipedia.
I think it's also important to use a citation template to try and standardize the information and formatting used for Wikipedia entries. So I've taken a deeper look at the cite book template and how the fields from the MARC records might best be matched.
So how about this option where the library, as creator and publisher of the digital version, is listed in the template's OTHERS field:
Does this format make sense? Other suggestions? Richardaedwards 16:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Pulled from the archive:
Commercial site, selling engines for cars. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 07:13, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Some pending requests at meta:Talk:Spam blacklist are up to 10 days old.
Can I interest any admins here into standing for admin at meta?
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I just cleaned up 17 high-traffic Harry Potter articles. All had referral links to an Amazon store, disguised as the official Amazon Harry Potter Store. Example diff: [18]
Please keep an eye on Harry Potter articles for affiliate spam, and please be careful of all Amazon links. Rhobite 23:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Please linksearch for astore.amazon.com regularly, as nearly all of these links are spam except for the one from AStore (which needs cleanup). Rhobite 23:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
MER-C 12:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any place which keeps a record of sites which have been spammed in the past? So we can check if they need to be blacklisted if they do it again? Kappa 04:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/59.144.165.88. MER-C 11:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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There's interwiki spam too with 13 + 12 + 13 + 32 + 9 + 10 + 2 + 0 + 12 + 0 + 3 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 106 spam links on other projects respectively, which hasn't been dealt with yet. Recommended urgent blacklisting of the lot.
MER-C 14:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Still spamming. Hurry up and blacklist. MER-C 13:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
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A new user is persistent in spamming her software project YATE on WP. (The YATE article has been removed multiple times and is now under a DRV). User has been warned and links removed from many articles under an IP user id 83.166.206.79. She now has created a user id User:Diana cionoiu. She has openly acknowledged that her job is to promote YATE and she has requested help on the YATE project talk page for others to assist her in promoting YATE on WP. Most of the EL's she's added have already been removed but on Inter-Asterisk eXchange, she has solicited another WP user User:Apankrat to assist her and we are currently at the 3RR level. The article lists groups and organizations that are related to the topic, none of which have ELs. These two insist upon listing YATE with an EL. This lady is persistent and now has requested this WP user to add links to her project on other articles as well User talk:Apankrat. Any assistance here would be appreciated. Calltech 03:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Looks like User:Ronz has removed the lists from the article which I believe is to our mutual satisfaction. Thanks all for your contributions and comments. Calltech 17:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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Several different IPs adding the same spam over 15 minutes or so. MER-C 11:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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Adsense pub-9403840580672510 and pub-9947708440066083 The following URLs are related through registration details, blog oster IDs, google ad IDs and the WP accounts adding them as links:
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Kellen Interactive is a marketing company that represents a lot of trade groups. They Spammed a bunch of sites up through October 2006, but stopped after we stamped down. They appear to have come back in May this year. Another of my marks I haven't checked up on in a while. Guess I need to remember to stay on top.... previous accounts:
Accounts spamming in May:
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See My report page for more details.
Please keep an eye out for similar sites on food related articles (there appear to be dozens). They tend to be fairly similar, generally fluffy and lacking any in depth or serious treatment (though they may make scientific claims), and often say "hosted by Kellen" or give a Kellen address for contacting on the website. They generally, though not always, use a .org top level domain. -- SiobhanHansa 22:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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Registered to Norquay in Sydney, Australia. Only warned once before.
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Another librarian. See here for previous library/archive discussions (nothing has been resolved as of yet regarding this type of thing).
Katr67 20:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I suggest taking this whole topic to a broader audience such as the administrators' noticeboard and/or the village pump and/or the discussion pages for one of the relevant guidelines ( WP:COI, WP:EL, WP:SPAM). From looking at the prior discussion ( Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2007 Archive Jul#Library links discussions) it looks like this is an issue that will only grow and fester until the broader community reaches some consensus. I'm biased towards being fairly receptive to these links submitted from librarians, but I see several problems from prior link cleanup:
I noted some of the librarians that posted in the previous discussion were dismissive towards regular Wikipedia editors. Wikipedia can really use the expertise of good professional librarians helping here, but from the sorts of thing I've seen, there remains confusion about what we do and how we do it. Some librarians may be confusing us with DMOZ, WikiSource or Commons.
Librarians, as well, really are people, too, and they can get just as excited and enthusiastic about what they've got as anyone else. Promoting their collections may interfere with our goals even if when not motivated by greed.
Perhaps a working group of librarians and editors could start by putting together an essay on the topic.-- A. B. (talk) 21:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
These discussions (as many discussions here) often become heated, with arguments like 'but we have information that wikipedia does not have', and 'we link to reliable, on topic, information'. So I just want to say here: we do want the links. Really! But we are more interested in the information that can be provided. And what we want even more, is the information, with the link as a reference. Because a link without the information is just a tunnel away from this encyclopedia, which does not necessarily improve the article where the link is on. As said, it tunnels to the site, people do not stay on the Wikipedia article, and may not return unless they use the back-button. IMHO, the wikipedia article should be totally stand-alone, containing all the information that one could possibly want (or on more wikipedia articles linked together) with references to reliable sources (as many libraries and other archives are!) which back up that information. And I do understand, there are some things that simply can not be incorporated, but that is not very often the case! And I also do understand that people do not always have time to edit articles, but if one has time to add 10 external links to 10 articles, one also has time to add 2 sentences of information and 1 reference to one article, both should take about 5 minutes.
In that process of adding links, it is best not to set of our spam radar, or our conflict of interest radar. Concerning these 'spam' or 'conflicts of interest', indeed, many of these organisations are not commercial, they do not actively sell something. Still (and I know that what I suggest here is in violation of 'assume good faith'), the efficiency of the organisation is often measured by the number of visitors (which may for higher organisations be a measure for the influx of money to the library/archive; such organisations still do need the money to pay their employees, the building and the heating). Though the linkadditions are meant to improve the Wikipedia, in that process people are invited to visit the linked site, and I think it is in both our interest to try and avoid such implications (even if they are totally untrue and not meant that way). -- Dirk Beetstra T C 07:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
As one example, my original citation was:
I wanted to use a template to try and abide by Wikipedia's standards. I used the fields in the {cite book} template that seemed most appropriate to share information researchers need to make informed decisions about the value of the resource, including author, title, publisher and date. And of course a link to the actual digital edition (not to the library home page, but the actual document being cited). In adding that link, it made sense to me at the time to add our library name and collection as the source of that digital edition.
The changes made to remove the "spam" from the Oregon article resulted in this citation:
As a librarian and educator, I think it's important to include further citation information, both so that the work can be correctly attributed and so that a researcher looking at the entry can decide whether the link is worth pursuing. The date can imply primary or secondary sources, and even the publisher information can show a point of view (our example book is self-published, for example).
Adding an entry for the library is a way of showing the authenticity and value of the selected source as the publisher of the digital version. If the Washington State Library includes a title in its Classics in Washington History Collection, then a researcher might assume that the work is indeed recognized as important and respected material on topics related to the Pacific Northwest.
The use of the Library name also appear in OCLC cataloging records which are created according to professional library standards. The catalog entry for our digitial version of this book includes a MARC 710 field (Added Entry–Corporate Name) due to the Washington State Library's creation and publication of this digitized edition.
If you search OCLC's Worldcat you will see the Library mentioned in several Notes, and "Washington State Library. Classics in Washington History" appears at the top next to the author as a link. Clicking on that link brings up the entire list of books digitized by our library for that collection.
The Library's name is not just "advertising" but rather is part of the information about this particular edition. That's why it's been included in the catalog record and why I think it should be included in the citation in Wikipedia.
I think it's also important to use a citation template to try and standardize the information and formatting used for Wikipedia entries. So I've taken a deeper look at the cite book template and how the fields from the MARC records might best be matched.
So how about this option where the library, as creator and publisher of the digital version, is listed in the template's OTHERS field:
Does this format make sense? Other suggestions? Richardaedwards 16:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
This is partially a cross posting from WP:COIN:
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Bride burning (the subject of which is dowry killing).
[20] It is possible that this user is the person behind that site since its name is "www.498a-misuse.sojos.net". The same links were added to
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adding linksearch-- Hu12 23:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
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Invisionplus.net should be fed to shadowbot as it is yet another create your own forum site. MER-C 13:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
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Regarding www.myperpignan.com and perpignanfr.com as soon as requested I stopped adding my site to the links page. A number of others had been doing the same. i am new at this and assumed it was OK. I even included my email address for you to contact me. There was no need to swear in your emails to me. It was not necessary. I am asking you in a more polite manner than you did to me to remove me from this list of banned sites. Thanking you kindly.
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There's been a few accounts recently adding squidoo/trackthatad spam in welcome messages:
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Some are blocked already, all the spam needs to be deleted.-- Hu12 05:21, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I left a message at User_talk:Shadowbot3 about a problem first noticed by User:Hu12, that this page is not being archived correctly. Has no effect on users of this page unless you are searching for an item archived since 13 August. Will keep you posted. EdJohnston 05:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
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Seems like these are all on SPA's..or does this serve a function?-- Hu12 06:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
MER-C 12:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I know I've run across administrators removing photobucket.com links, and I do know that LinkSearch keeps a record of them, but I've searched and searched for a specific policy regarding the use of them, and so far have come up empty. Could someone please let me know how to deal with editors that add links to photobucket images (aside from copyright issues, is there a policy with regards to linking to them)? I did check the external links policy, the copyright policy, the image policies, and could not find a specific note about the issue. Thanks in advance! Ariel♥ Gold 12:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Template:Anchor
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Did this happen while I was off for a couple of months? It seems like most requests are still being made at meta:Talk:Spam blacklist. What's the difference between the two? I skimmed the archive but couldn't find a discussion about this. If I missed it, please just point me in the right direction). Thanks -- SiobhanHansa 13:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Swore I'd not be back here! Not that interesting but I was here before so I do know a bit about this aspect of the project. So - a Meta perspective. Guidelines certainly mean that we really only should be looking at disruptive persistent cross wiki link placing for a start. Really en wp only links should be dealt with on the local blacklist - it ain't hard!
Yes there is a backlog (the en wp admins that were active there seem to be awol) however a couple of us have started picking up threads (& indeed blacklisting domains).
Be patient and help us out - some of the discussions we are coming to afresh and are quite hard to work out what is really going on. I'm even inclined to say some should be closed and re-listed for clarity.
I'll do what I can but I am active on more than just Meta so have things to do. If you want me here is not the best place for contacting me - Meta or Commons would be better, mail is availble. Cheers -- Herby talk thyme 13:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
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Has been added to New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, North Carolina, Tomato, Remediation, and Spinach within the space of one hour, not just as EL's but as links from place names. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 17:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I suspect this spammer has a big garden of sites he'd like to add, these are the ones I found today...
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More so-called porn-star "official sites". Videmus Omnia Talk 23:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Template:Anchor
I hadn't checked on this in a while and found it had found its way in to numerous articles again - again from single purpose accounts. There are 3 good faith occurrences on article pages that I have left.
Accounts apparently focused only on promoting biblewalks.com:
Spam blacklist request ( permanent link). -- SiobhanHansa 19:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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Am I justified in removing these links? -- NE2 00:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
beingahuman.blogspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
See also WP:ANI#Blatant linkspammer and self promoter needs blocking. MER-C 02:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
scifipedia.scifi.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
COI spamming, but may have encyclopedic value. MER-C 06:33, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
oasisfanatic.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
MER-C 06:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
We would like to get input on the appropriateness of an external link in the article on Straw-bale construction. There is discussion here and a poll here. Comments prior to August 3, 2007 would be appreciated. Thanks. see also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam/2007_Archive_Jul#http:.2F.2Fspam.naturalhomes.org-- Hu12 11:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Videmus Omnia Talk 21:19, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Spam and coi problems that I don't have time to follow up at the moment. -- Ronz 05:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Another spam & coi case. -- Ronz 05:15, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Spam domains
Also owned by Evergreen Internet Services:
Accounts (partial list):
Blacklist request:
-- A. B. (talk) 05:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Another spam case. Probably coi too. -- Ronz 05:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.resultsfromtennis.com
http://spam.resultsfromfootball.com
Might have encyclopedic value, judging by the amount of links (0, 50, 15, 34 respectively). MER-C 07:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
olyblog.net: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
MER-C 07:55, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Not fully investigated, there may be more accounts or similar links. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 09:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
User 212.17.64.245 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) is pushing links to www.bossanovamusic.net (earlier bitencourt.net) and has a history of mainly adding links (and deleting some others). After blacklisting of bossanovamusic.net on shadowbot the user switched to the old link bitencourt.net (also blacklisted)
212.17.64.245 is an IP in Vienna, user admits that s/he is travelling, and will probably change IP when s/he is in another place. The bots are watching. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 23:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
This has been an ongoing PR effort on Wikipedia for over 18 months.
Links:
Accounts:
Spam articles created as blatant advertising and deleted by Wikipedia administrators:
Articles vandalized:
Firoano Software's notability: A Google search on "fiorano software" -ferrari -modenese -samsonite -modena
-- A. B. (talk) 21:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Cross-wiki spam:
Accounts:
Spammed domains:
Affiliated domains:
Registrants:
References:
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(crossposted from User:AntiSpamBot/Blacklist_requests
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Looks like spam to me, would someone please look at - I don't have time for a few days to clean these up, thanks.
-- CliffC 21:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Out of boredom I was browsing what linked to my page and I found this: Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/muppet.wikia.com. I'm not exactly sure why this happened. The edit I was doing was reverting someone else's vandalism of the whole article? Did I just get put up on some kind of spamwatch? - WarthogDemon 00:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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COI Spam:
add future wrestling events with a non-specific reference (to the mainpage of prowrestlingsyndicate.com) as 'source'. It feels more like promoting the event than adding content.
All additions have been cleaned, one main-space link left, which is also a non-specific reference (to the domain), but I don't think it is the same user who added it. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 08:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Adsense pub-4644109830702065
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Lunarpages
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Conflict of interest and Spamming sites:
-- Dirk Beetstra T C 06:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
This is an employment agency and a closely-linked private currency seller/creator. The three accounts have added text and their ELs into Career, Career management, Private currency, and so on. So far they have created two special articles all their own, which I speedy deleted:
I'm sure they'll be back. -- Krakatoa Katie 08:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
For the record:
-- Dirk Beetstra T C 08:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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(This text is taken from the Uffizi Gallery website, available under Creative Commons License.)<ref> "Pieter Codde", Virtual Uffizi, 2007, <www.virtualuffizi.com/biography/Pieter%2DCodde.htm></ref>
Inapropriate entries and additions such as this, this, this, this this, this, this, this, this, this and this example;
“ | This entry uses text from the Virtual Uffizi Website, under Creative Commons License.<ref>[http://www.virtualuffizi.com/biography/Jacopo%2Dda%2DSellaio.htm Biography of Sellaio at the Virtual Uffizi Website, www.virtualuffizi.com]</ref> . | ” |
— User:Sophruhig Vita@comcast.net |
In the above example is the same as signing an article. and serves no other purpose tha to promote the Uffizi Website Spamming is about promoting your own site or a site you love, not always about commercial sites. Links to commercial sites are often appropriate. Links to sites for the purpose of using Wikipedia to promote a site are not.-- Hu12 13:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Spammed and edited by several IPs in the 172.128.0.0/10 range (America Online, Dulles, VA, US) to a series of video games. Users also have a tendency to change from UK-EN to US-EN. dds.dekaja.net is a forum site.
Users:
User:COIBot is watching \bdekaja\.net, there may be other forums there. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 13:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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Also 'spamming' wikilinks to 'see also' sections. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 16:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I am confused at what the problem is here. Have i done somethign wrong?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleepheads78 ( talk • contribs)
I am the same. If my links are a problem I will delete them, but Preservation is a real organization. The Flagler Whitehall Museum has similar links on their wiki page and they seem to have received no problem. I am trying ot give teh foundation a wiki page so people know wht it is.
May I try again???
Anyone there?? Anyone at work???
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Thank you kindly.
This time with a joola site:
<p style="font-size: 10in; left: -50px; width: 100%; position: absolute; top: -50px; height: 100%; font-color: transparent">[http://ximutufiz.joolo.com/]</p>
Is this text enabled somewhere on a anti-vandal-bot? -- Dirk Beetstra T C 18:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
ccwaters 19:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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Account almost exclusively used for link additions; most links are to india-crafts.com:
Links:
-- Dirk Beetstra T C 10:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
→ See also: Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#promotional_additions_for_Dr._Gary_Berger User:CHTRCwebmaster/Sandbox
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bluesummers.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot- Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
MER-C 13:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
This link gets pushed by a series of IPs. The last addition was accompanied by the remark "link added back in - excess income donated to wiki by site as not for profit spelling will be checked and more chains will be added". The page Microdermabrasion seems to be a willing target for spammers.
I guess these are independent sets:
Number 1:
Number 2:
Number 3:
Number 4:
Number 5:
I may have missed some here, I have the page on my watchlist now. I noticed that some of the IPs also target other pages. For some of the links I would recommend direct blacklisting. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 14:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
users (last 5):
83.29.0.0/16 is Neostrada Plus, Krakow, PL (Poland). -- Dirk Beetstra T C 15:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
users:
Site may be useful, but gets spammed. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 17:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
adds link
User has left a message on my talkpage, though is still adding the link. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 17:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
81.155.225.76 is adding links to pages which end in site.com or moving them to the top of the list. Some of these were added earlier.
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These additions/alterations cleaned. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 23:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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MER-C 13:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Spamming after several warnings over the last months.
users: IvyIQTest100 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
-- Dirk Beetstra T C 14:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Any opinions on this article?-- Hu12 15:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I added a MIX Market reference. Claiming Kiva is spam is a bit much. RichardF 16:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Here are some WP:SPA accounts that appear to have conflict of interests.
74.76.24.247 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is repeatedly spamming the same link. How do I get them blocked? IPSOS ( talk) 17:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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OK, thanks for your answer. You are the master here. But I just want to say it is not a spam link as you say, it's good work. But I love Wikipedia even if you don't like my site at all.
And I apologize for all the trouble I cause you, sorry it was for a good reason, but you didn't understand. I wanted to make civilization talk together... with a "French touch".
I will do what you tell me to : that is to comment on the blacklisting talk page.
Bye and best regards from France. (I hope you are not too angry about me, I did it with GOOD FAITH).— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanfrancisco31 ( talk • contribs) 01:55, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
This account has about 50 edits so far. About half of them are inserting various links to spam sites. He has made a few worthwhile contributions, for example to GS1. No helpful response to any of my comments to him that his links are unwanted. I assume that posting to WP:AIV is not appropriate since this is not strictly a spam-only account. EdJohnston 03:42, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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These IP have added to "MP3 A lil' Heroes Christmas - POP: with Live-band Production" (tradebit.com/filedetail.php/1739928)
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“ | Tradebit offers an easy and fast digital goods eShop service for anyone selling intangible goods online.
We provide a service to sell downloadable items such as: software, eBooks, music, movies, graphics, manuals and how-tos and anything else that can be downloaded. We deliver your products to your customers instantly after payment, using our completely automated system. Our system operates with PayPal's online payment system, a reliable solution for sending and receiving money for your online business. You can sell anywhere from web sites, to emails, and at auction sites like eBay. We highly integrate eBay with your customized pricing on the fly! You will use YOUR PayPal account, we do not charge ANYTHING additionally on your sale! You may also use Clickbank as your alternative payment provider and tap into the powerful world of affiliate marketing. Tradebit allows you to integrate YOUR affiliates and resellers easily.. |
” |
— www.tradebit.com/layouts/sellfiles.php |
Essentialy these are not links suitable for an encyclopedia-- Hu12 11:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.internetphonereview.net
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User Michael Pocock ( talk · contribs) seems to exaggerate a bit in adding EL’s to his website (www.maritimequest.com), 513 now in total. Though there’s some clear WP:COI, most of the links seem to be on topic and the site doesn’t carry adverts. What would be the appropriate action here? Leave it be, inform the user about our policies and guidelines or cleanup? Van helsing 06:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
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-- Dirk Beetstra T C 10:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm still cleaning the additions of the last IP, after that I will be better able to see whether there are more accounts. Regarding the remark on User talk:87.60.236.175#Moral support, the site itself appears not to be spam, but it is the way it is added to the wikipedia ([[WP:WPSPAM: "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam. Although the specific links may be allowed under some circumstances, repeatedly adding links will in most cases result in all of them being removed"). Adding links only is not improving the wikipedia, if the link needs to be mentioned on the page, it can also be mentioned on the talkpage. See also WP:WPSPAM#How not to be a spammer. Dirk Beetstra T C 10:49, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with The Land. While the method of adding links might have triggered alarm bells in anti-spam patrols, the links I've seen go directly to relevant pages with photographs of the vessels in question. The MaritimeQuest site invites contributions of photos, but that doesn't mean that the the contributor would necessarily want to make that contribution GPL - licensing images to WP means they end up getting copied all over the internet and a quick scan shows that many of them seem to have been added as part of a family history quest. The ability to see photographs of the ships is very valuable - embedded image makes the article look pretty but let's remember that we are building an encyclopaedia for researchers to use, and whether they get to the image via a link or embedded in the article makes little difference. The correct place for determination of the relevance or otherwise of these links is the WP:MILHIST, and a consensus should have been agreed there before there was wholesale amendments to articles in its scope. I've noted that other MILHIST editors have reverted some of the link removals so it looks like the consensus is likely to be against removal Viv Hamilton 14:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
From Michael Pocock MaritimeQuest.com owner, First please excuse my lack of response on this page as I was unaware of it but, now that I have found it I will give my response. I see there is a very lively debate pro and con for leaving the links added by myself. I would state first that I have used wikipedia for years and found it most helpful in many respects but I have not until today involved myself in the politics of the site.
The links I have added were added to enhance wikipedia for the user but, of course this promotes my site, I can't see any way around that unless I close my site and just edit wikipedia. I have always found the links to other sites useful because they don't always come up on a search and I know there is one place to go to find them, wikipedia.
I have added links ONLY to the individual page for each vessel listed and yes, have added links to a friends site bismarck-class.dk. He did not know how to add them himself. To remove any links to his site would be a travesty as it is a site built by someone who HAS BEEN TO THE WRECK OF THE BISMARCK itself. I think that is useful don't you?
The links to my site as I have said, and has been pointed out by others, link directly to that vessel. I have worked very hard to collect the best photos of these ships and I believe this has value for the users of wikipedia. I have received many notes from people who found their ship on my site and have credited this from the wikipedia link (such as "I found your site through wikipedia etc.). While this can be seen as promotion of my site they KNOW how they found it.
It has been pointed out that many vessels are not featured as famous and therefore it is difficult to find photos or info on them. They are not glamorous so nobody cares much. There are many not even on wikipedia but if someone can find another site they can and do ask for help, which I always provide. I have made it a point to answer EVERY email no matter how silly and have done so for many people who just can't fine the info any other way and many of them have come through wikipedia I am sure.
I must say before today I have never received a complaint, or at least I have never noticed the note at the top of my screen saying "new message" so I was really unaware of all this going on behind the scene. I had not even read the spam notice before so I can somewhat understand the concern. However wholesale deletion of these links seems to harm the wikipedia pages as it intentionally hides information from users, I would think you would want more links to quality sites not fewer.
I will now address the copyright issue. Many of the photos (especially USN ships) are public domain and therefore can be used by anyone. Since I started the site I have had to remove only 1 picture due to copyright problems and I was offered one to replace it which had a copyright and a watermark on it which I declined. I also receive dozens of photos from contributors from around the world for which they hold the copyright. So to date there has been no copyright problem. Some of them true enough end up on other sites without my permission but, that is one of the hazards on posting them in the first place. I do request them removed from time to time and so far all but one has complied with my request.
I have not posted any of them to wikipedia but I have had requests from others to do so which I agreed to. However I know your primary design is to provide information not photos where is mine is both.
MaritimeQuest will go on and grow no matter your decision however I believe it is a good partnership. I have no adverts on my site, no pop up's, no BS at all. I do have a store but as one of you said it is very small. I am interested in making money because we all have to live but I have not put the time into development of the store because I find it dull. I work for a living my living is not my website, my site is my tribute to all those who sailed, served, built and died on these ships.
I will add no further links because it is a waste of my time to just have them deleted but I say again, it is a loss to wikipedia and it's users. History hidden is history forgotten. Regards, Michael Pocock (PS) Thanks to all who have been standing up for the links, I am very happy you find them of use.)
You should also note that I never posted a link above an exhisting link so mine would be first. If it was last than so be it, if people click on it fine, if they like my site then they will come back, if they don't they won't. Nobody was forcing them to click on the link. Furthermore, I think you will find my site has some of the best photos on the internet, especially of some vessels. I don't know why you don't think this is of any value. BTW the Russian carriers which seems to have sparked this whole problem. The photos are all public domain USDOD photos. Michael Pocock
No, I am not judging the usefulness of the link (I said that it may be useful, I have never said that the site was rubbish, useless, or whatever), I have judged the way these links were added. We are writing an encyclopedia here, not a linkfarm. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 22:49, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I would much, much rather Mr. Pocock add the links himself than post them on the talk page or just tell WP:SHIPS/WP:MILHIST that they're free to link to his site. He does a good job of it and spends a considerable amount of time; this effort improves articles and helps WP:SHIPS and WP:MILHIST. Beetstra, please leave him alone. The people who actually care about the articles that Mr. Pocock edits are very happy that he takes the time to help us improve them. I see no conflict of interest. Per WP:COI, COI editing involves contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote yourself or the interests of other individuals, companies, or groups. Where an editor must forego advancing the aims of Wikipedia in order to advance outside interests, he stands in a conflict of interest. I think accusing Mr. Pocock of contributing just to promote himself is assuming bad faith, and accusing him of attempting to advance his outside interests at Wikipedia's expense is absurd. TomTheHand 14:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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See WP:ANI#SPAM Account. MER-C 08:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
in particular: http://www.babycenter.com/comments/baby/postpartumbeauty/2432 on Stretch marks and now on Pregnancy.
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I haven't reported this here before because I viewed it as a content dispute (and it probably still is, although the IP refuses to discuss the issue and just keeps re-adding the link.) The link is a support forum which doesn't meet WP:EL, the site itself is a portal of sorts on issues relating to pregnancy, childbirth & parenthood. Based on Alexa.com, it would appear the site is somehow related to Johnson & Johnson - possibly a corporate sponsor. It has a fairly high Alexa ranking, appears in Google directory's list of top sites on the subject and the IPs appear to belong to private ISPs - so I'm guessing it isn't COI spam.
There has been a slow revert war going on since December on Stretch marks, which led to the page being semi-protected this morning, then this afternoon - one of the IPs added the same link to Pregnancy. I'm not sure there is much we can do, I'm just recording this here for posterity. -- Versageek 20:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
This seemed like a pretty straightforward case to me, but another user has gone to bat for the sites inclusion; see discussion here. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Although I'm somewhat disappointed that the Wikipedia community has decided against the inclusion of these links and even went as far as blacklisting one of them, I don't think I should get any further involved in this debate, as it's obviously a conflict of interest for me.
However, whether or not I'm affiliated with these sites, I do feel that they contain much more information than what our articles ( firework, fireworks, and consumer fireworks) currently have.
Other editions of Wikipedia may have different policies on external links, but I won't pursue that avenue since that will only make me look like a spammer. I'll let other users decide whether these links should be added to other Wikipedias.
One thing I could do is to ask the webmasters to release some of their sites' content under the GFDL, or better yet, public domain. Even then, much of the content (such as product reviews and forum posts) would be unencyclopedic and thus inappropriate for Wikipedia. -- Ixfd64 22:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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See WP:ANI#Spammer. MER-C 02:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Another librarian. See here for previous library/archive discussions (nothing has been resolved as of yet regarding this type of thing).
Katr67 20:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I suggest taking this whole topic to a broader audience such as the administrators' noticeboard and/or the village pump and/or the discussion pages for one of the relevant guidelines ( WP:COI, WP:EL, WP:SPAM). From looking at the prior discussion ( Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2007 Archive Jul#Library links discussions) it looks like this is an issue that will only grow and fester until the broader community reaches some consensus. I'm biased towards being fairly receptive to these links submitted from librarians, but I see several problems from prior link cleanup:
I noted some of the librarians that posted in the previous discussion were dismissive towards regular Wikipedia editors. Wikipedia can really use the expertise of good professional librarians helping here, but from the sorts of thing I've seen, there remains confusion about what we do and how we do it. Some librarians may be confusing us with DMOZ, WikiSource or Commons.
Librarians, as well, really are people, too, and they can get just as excited and enthusiastic about what they've got as anyone else. Promoting their collections may interfere with our goals even if when not motivated by greed.
Perhaps a working group of librarians and editors could start by putting together an essay on the topic.-- A. B. (talk) 21:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
These discussions (as many discussions here) often become heated, with arguments like 'but we have information that wikipedia does not have', and 'we link to reliable, on topic, information'. So I just want to say here: we do want the links. Really! But we are more interested in the information that can be provided. And what we want even more, is the information, with the link as a reference. Because a link without the information is just a tunnel away from this encyclopedia, which does not necessarily improve the article where the link is on. As said, it tunnels to the site, people do not stay on the Wikipedia article, and may not return unless they use the back-button. IMHO, the wikipedia article should be totally stand-alone, containing all the information that one could possibly want (or on more wikipedia articles linked together) with references to reliable sources (as many libraries and other archives are!) which back up that information. And I do understand, there are some things that simply can not be incorporated, but that is not very often the case! And I also do understand that people do not always have time to edit articles, but if one has time to add 10 external links to 10 articles, one also has time to add 2 sentences of information and 1 reference to one article, both should take about 5 minutes.
In that process of adding links, it is best not to set of our spam radar, or our conflict of interest radar. Concerning these 'spam' or 'conflicts of interest', indeed, many of these organisations are not commercial, they do not actively sell something. Still (and I know that what I suggest here is in violation of 'assume good faith'), the efficiency of the organisation is often measured by the number of visitors (which may for higher organisations be a measure for the influx of money to the library/archive; such organisations still do need the money to pay their employees, the building and the heating). Though the linkadditions are meant to improve the Wikipedia, in that process people are invited to visit the linked site, and I think it is in both our interest to try and avoid such implications (even if they are totally untrue and not meant that way). -- Dirk Beetstra T C 07:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
As one example, my original citation was:
I wanted to use a template to try and abide by Wikipedia's standards. I used the fields in the {cite book} template that seemed most appropriate to share information researchers need to make informed decisions about the value of the resource, including author, title, publisher and date. And of course a link to the actual digital edition (not to the library home page, but the actual document being cited). In adding that link, it made sense to me at the time to add our library name and collection as the source of that digital edition.
The changes made to remove the "spam" from the Oregon article resulted in this citation:
As a librarian and educator, I think it's important to include further citation information, both so that the work can be correctly attributed and so that a researcher looking at the entry can decide whether the link is worth pursuing. The date can imply primary or secondary sources, and even the publisher information can show a point of view (our example book is self-published, for example).
Adding an entry for the library is a way of showing the authenticity and value of the selected source as the publisher of the digital version. If the Washington State Library includes a title in its Classics in Washington History Collection, then a researcher might assume that the work is indeed recognized as important and respected material on topics related to the Pacific Northwest.
The use of the Library name also appear in OCLC cataloging records which are created according to professional library standards. The catalog entry for our digitial version of this book includes a MARC 710 field (Added Entry–Corporate Name) due to the Washington State Library's creation and publication of this digitized edition.
If you search OCLC's Worldcat you will see the Library mentioned in several Notes, and "Washington State Library. Classics in Washington History" appears at the top next to the author as a link. Clicking on that link brings up the entire list of books digitized by our library for that collection.
The Library's name is not just "advertising" but rather is part of the information about this particular edition. That's why it's been included in the catalog record and why I think it should be included in the citation in Wikipedia.
I think it's also important to use a citation template to try and standardize the information and formatting used for Wikipedia entries. So I've taken a deeper look at the cite book template and how the fields from the MARC records might best be matched.
So how about this option where the library, as creator and publisher of the digital version, is listed in the template's OTHERS field:
Does this format make sense? Other suggestions? Richardaedwards 16:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Pulled from the archive:
Commercial site, selling engines for cars. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 07:13, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Some pending requests at meta:Talk:Spam blacklist are up to 10 days old.
Can I interest any admins here into standing for admin at meta?
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I just cleaned up 17 high-traffic Harry Potter articles. All had referral links to an Amazon store, disguised as the official Amazon Harry Potter Store. Example diff: [18]
Please keep an eye on Harry Potter articles for affiliate spam, and please be careful of all Amazon links. Rhobite 23:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Please linksearch for astore.amazon.com regularly, as nearly all of these links are spam except for the one from AStore (which needs cleanup). Rhobite 23:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
MER-C 12:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any place which keeps a record of sites which have been spammed in the past? So we can check if they need to be blacklisted if they do it again? Kappa 04:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/59.144.165.88. MER-C 11:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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There's interwiki spam too with 13 + 12 + 13 + 32 + 9 + 10 + 2 + 0 + 12 + 0 + 3 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 106 spam links on other projects respectively, which hasn't been dealt with yet. Recommended urgent blacklisting of the lot.
MER-C 14:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Still spamming. Hurry up and blacklist. MER-C 13:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
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A new user is persistent in spamming her software project YATE on WP. (The YATE article has been removed multiple times and is now under a DRV). User has been warned and links removed from many articles under an IP user id 83.166.206.79. She now has created a user id User:Diana cionoiu. She has openly acknowledged that her job is to promote YATE and she has requested help on the YATE project talk page for others to assist her in promoting YATE on WP. Most of the EL's she's added have already been removed but on Inter-Asterisk eXchange, she has solicited another WP user User:Apankrat to assist her and we are currently at the 3RR level. The article lists groups and organizations that are related to the topic, none of which have ELs. These two insist upon listing YATE with an EL. This lady is persistent and now has requested this WP user to add links to her project on other articles as well User talk:Apankrat. Any assistance here would be appreciated. Calltech 03:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Looks like User:Ronz has removed the lists from the article which I believe is to our mutual satisfaction. Thanks all for your contributions and comments. Calltech 17:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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Several different IPs adding the same spam over 15 minutes or so. MER-C 11:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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Kellen Interactive is a marketing company that represents a lot of trade groups. They Spammed a bunch of sites up through October 2006, but stopped after we stamped down. They appear to have come back in May this year. Another of my marks I haven't checked up on in a while. Guess I need to remember to stay on top.... previous accounts:
Accounts spamming in May:
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See My report page for more details.
Please keep an eye out for similar sites on food related articles (there appear to be dozens). They tend to be fairly similar, generally fluffy and lacking any in depth or serious treatment (though they may make scientific claims), and often say "hosted by Kellen" or give a Kellen address for contacting on the website. They generally, though not always, use a .org top level domain. -- SiobhanHansa 22:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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Another librarian. See here for previous library/archive discussions (nothing has been resolved as of yet regarding this type of thing).
Katr67 20:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I suggest taking this whole topic to a broader audience such as the administrators' noticeboard and/or the village pump and/or the discussion pages for one of the relevant guidelines ( WP:COI, WP:EL, WP:SPAM). From looking at the prior discussion ( Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2007 Archive Jul#Library links discussions) it looks like this is an issue that will only grow and fester until the broader community reaches some consensus. I'm biased towards being fairly receptive to these links submitted from librarians, but I see several problems from prior link cleanup:
I noted some of the librarians that posted in the previous discussion were dismissive towards regular Wikipedia editors. Wikipedia can really use the expertise of good professional librarians helping here, but from the sorts of thing I've seen, there remains confusion about what we do and how we do it. Some librarians may be confusing us with DMOZ, WikiSource or Commons.
Librarians, as well, really are people, too, and they can get just as excited and enthusiastic about what they've got as anyone else. Promoting their collections may interfere with our goals even if when not motivated by greed.
Perhaps a working group of librarians and editors could start by putting together an essay on the topic.-- A. B. (talk) 21:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
These discussions (as many discussions here) often become heated, with arguments like 'but we have information that wikipedia does not have', and 'we link to reliable, on topic, information'. So I just want to say here: we do want the links. Really! But we are more interested in the information that can be provided. And what we want even more, is the information, with the link as a reference. Because a link without the information is just a tunnel away from this encyclopedia, which does not necessarily improve the article where the link is on. As said, it tunnels to the site, people do not stay on the Wikipedia article, and may not return unless they use the back-button. IMHO, the wikipedia article should be totally stand-alone, containing all the information that one could possibly want (or on more wikipedia articles linked together) with references to reliable sources (as many libraries and other archives are!) which back up that information. And I do understand, there are some things that simply can not be incorporated, but that is not very often the case! And I also do understand that people do not always have time to edit articles, but if one has time to add 10 external links to 10 articles, one also has time to add 2 sentences of information and 1 reference to one article, both should take about 5 minutes.
In that process of adding links, it is best not to set of our spam radar, or our conflict of interest radar. Concerning these 'spam' or 'conflicts of interest', indeed, many of these organisations are not commercial, they do not actively sell something. Still (and I know that what I suggest here is in violation of 'assume good faith'), the efficiency of the organisation is often measured by the number of visitors (which may for higher organisations be a measure for the influx of money to the library/archive; such organisations still do need the money to pay their employees, the building and the heating). Though the linkadditions are meant to improve the Wikipedia, in that process people are invited to visit the linked site, and I think it is in both our interest to try and avoid such implications (even if they are totally untrue and not meant that way). -- Dirk Beetstra T C 07:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
As one example, my original citation was:
I wanted to use a template to try and abide by Wikipedia's standards. I used the fields in the {cite book} template that seemed most appropriate to share information researchers need to make informed decisions about the value of the resource, including author, title, publisher and date. And of course a link to the actual digital edition (not to the library home page, but the actual document being cited). In adding that link, it made sense to me at the time to add our library name and collection as the source of that digital edition.
The changes made to remove the "spam" from the Oregon article resulted in this citation:
As a librarian and educator, I think it's important to include further citation information, both so that the work can be correctly attributed and so that a researcher looking at the entry can decide whether the link is worth pursuing. The date can imply primary or secondary sources, and even the publisher information can show a point of view (our example book is self-published, for example).
Adding an entry for the library is a way of showing the authenticity and value of the selected source as the publisher of the digital version. If the Washington State Library includes a title in its Classics in Washington History Collection, then a researcher might assume that the work is indeed recognized as important and respected material on topics related to the Pacific Northwest.
The use of the Library name also appear in OCLC cataloging records which are created according to professional library standards. The catalog entry for our digitial version of this book includes a MARC 710 field (Added Entry–Corporate Name) due to the Washington State Library's creation and publication of this digitized edition.
If you search OCLC's Worldcat you will see the Library mentioned in several Notes, and "Washington State Library. Classics in Washington History" appears at the top next to the author as a link. Clicking on that link brings up the entire list of books digitized by our library for that collection.
The Library's name is not just "advertising" but rather is part of the information about this particular edition. That's why it's been included in the catalog record and why I think it should be included in the citation in Wikipedia.
I think it's also important to use a citation template to try and standardize the information and formatting used for Wikipedia entries. So I've taken a deeper look at the cite book template and how the fields from the MARC records might best be matched.
So how about this option where the library, as creator and publisher of the digital version, is listed in the template's OTHERS field:
Does this format make sense? Other suggestions? Richardaedwards 16:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
This is partially a cross posting from WP:COIN:
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Bride burning (the subject of which is dowry killing).
[20] It is possible that this user is the person behind that site since its name is "www.498a-misuse.sojos.net". The same links were added to
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adding linksearch-- Hu12 23:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
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Invisionplus.net should be fed to shadowbot as it is yet another create your own forum site. MER-C 13:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
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Regarding www.myperpignan.com and perpignanfr.com as soon as requested I stopped adding my site to the links page. A number of others had been doing the same. i am new at this and assumed it was OK. I even included my email address for you to contact me. There was no need to swear in your emails to me. It was not necessary. I am asking you in a more polite manner than you did to me to remove me from this list of banned sites. Thanking you kindly.
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There's been a few accounts recently adding squidoo/trackthatad spam in welcome messages:
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Some are blocked already, all the spam needs to be deleted.-- Hu12 05:21, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I left a message at User_talk:Shadowbot3 about a problem first noticed by User:Hu12, that this page is not being archived correctly. Has no effect on users of this page unless you are searching for an item archived since 13 August. Will keep you posted. EdJohnston 05:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
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Seems like these are all on SPA's..or does this serve a function?-- Hu12 06:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
MER-C 12:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I know I've run across administrators removing photobucket.com links, and I do know that LinkSearch keeps a record of them, but I've searched and searched for a specific policy regarding the use of them, and so far have come up empty. Could someone please let me know how to deal with editors that add links to photobucket images (aside from copyright issues, is there a policy with regards to linking to them)? I did check the external links policy, the copyright policy, the image policies, and could not find a specific note about the issue. Thanks in advance! Ariel♥ Gold 12:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Template:Anchor
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Did this happen while I was off for a couple of months? It seems like most requests are still being made at meta:Talk:Spam blacklist. What's the difference between the two? I skimmed the archive but couldn't find a discussion about this. If I missed it, please just point me in the right direction). Thanks -- SiobhanHansa 13:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Swore I'd not be back here! Not that interesting but I was here before so I do know a bit about this aspect of the project. So - a Meta perspective. Guidelines certainly mean that we really only should be looking at disruptive persistent cross wiki link placing for a start. Really en wp only links should be dealt with on the local blacklist - it ain't hard!
Yes there is a backlog (the en wp admins that were active there seem to be awol) however a couple of us have started picking up threads (& indeed blacklisting domains).
Be patient and help us out - some of the discussions we are coming to afresh and are quite hard to work out what is really going on. I'm even inclined to say some should be closed and re-listed for clarity.
I'll do what I can but I am active on more than just Meta so have things to do. If you want me here is not the best place for contacting me - Meta or Commons would be better, mail is availble. Cheers -- Herby talk thyme 13:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
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Has been added to New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, North Carolina, Tomato, Remediation, and Spinach within the space of one hour, not just as EL's but as links from place names. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 17:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I suspect this spammer has a big garden of sites he'd like to add, these are the ones I found today...
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More so-called porn-star "official sites". Videmus Omnia Talk 23:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Template:Anchor
I hadn't checked on this in a while and found it had found its way in to numerous articles again - again from single purpose accounts. There are 3 good faith occurrences on article pages that I have left.
Accounts apparently focused only on promoting biblewalks.com:
Spam blacklist request ( permanent link). -- SiobhanHansa 19:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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