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We don't need "leaders" of a WikiProject of three people. Large WikiProjects like Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history have coordinators because of the size of the project, but one for a group of three is unnecessary. Please take out the leadership categories. Thank you, Metros ( talk) 15:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I have added WikiProject Free Software to the list of sub-projects of this one. flaming lawyer c 16:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Does that mean everyone, or some select group of people? I don't really know the different type of users on Wikipedia (other than admins) ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 20:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.
Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot ( Disable) 20:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Should we? And if not, do I leave the class blank or do I classify it as n/a? Also, how do you classify something as not applicable (class)? ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 21:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and replace it with the software one if no one objects, feel free to revert it. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 01:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
An important discussion on " Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ? " is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - , member of WikiProject Council. 15:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Does this WikiProject consist of doing anything other hundreds of edits to make the project page look pretty (and the subsequent constant requirement to fix the bad spelling and grammar that keeps getting added to the project page)? - Ahunt ( talk) 15:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks,
Tyw7, formerly Troop350 (
Talk ●
Contributions) 09:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that this project has been going around transcluding Wikipedia:WikiProject Software/parentage to various project pages, without consulting with any of the project members to do this, nor discussing the supposed organizational hierarchy, which is arguably flawed. This project was inactive for a long period of time and only recently someone has attempted a revival. While I do hope that something good comes of it, this project is still in its infancy compared to the more established computer-related projects and should not be editing unilaterally. Please discuss with other projects before attempting to redefine their own established organizational hierarchies. Ham Pastrami ( talk) 20:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
See:
User (T C) | Rank | Duties | Comments | Status |
---|---|---|---|---|
Sammy9990 ( T C) | Previous Leader | Retired | Founder | - |
Tyw7 ( T C) | Current Leader | This user is on temporary leave | Semi-Active | |
Deblopper ( T C) | Acting Leader | Managing the Contents to meet Wiki Standerd | ||
Arijit rim ( T C) | Contributor | Semi - Active | ||
TinuCherian ( T C) | Acting Leader; Assistant Leader; Coordinator | Contributor, Assessment | Active |
ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 04:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
See
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Software/Archive_2#Leaders? for relevant discussion in the past.
Metros (
talk) 21:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I have been trying to figure out what this project is all about ever since I was invited to join it. It is pretty obvious that it isn't mostly about improving articles. Anyway I finally figured it out. I have better things to do here on Wikipedia than be a member of a supporting cast for someone else's problem, so goodbye. - Ahunt ( talk) 01:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
This project is a subset of the parent project
WP:COMPUTING.This project articles contains both {{
WikiProject Software}} and {{
WikiProject Computing}} and possibly other descendant wikiproject banners also.
I am proposing the use of the integrated banner of {{
WikiProject Computing}} , if there is a consensus among our project members...
Example :
{{WikiProject Computing|class=start|importance=Mid|software=yes|software-importance=low}}
will produce...
(removed)
The advantages of this are :-
Possible Actions:
Thoughts ?? -- Tinu Cherian - 10:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Edit:Also, can someone fix the categories the templates use? We have overlapping ones (as of now anyway, see bottom). ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 21:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Let me further explain : The seperate importance ratings are important and has the following advantages :
Please note that this initative is extended and in discussion with all the computer related Wikiprojects and there is more or less unanimous support now.
You may need not consider this banner integration as an overhead as I will make sure the present importance rating for this project is properly carried over to the new banner parameters during the banner intergation . I will make sure there is no or minimal overhead to the descendant project members for this banner intergation ( TinucherianBot is a hardworking Bot :) ). Whether or not the you may need to add importance rating to newer articles is left to the descendant WikiProject members.
This initiative is to reduce the Bureaucracy and administrative overhead on computer related WikiProjects and enhance greater collabration and cooperation.The result : you have more time to work on the articles of your interest. -- Tinu Cherian - 05:30, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
comment Would it be possible for a bot to auto-rate a unrated page as a stub if its rated as a stub on another project's template & has a stub tag (any) on the article? Also, I really don't see much bureaucracy reduced (at least, for me) cause I usually just add the most relevant project's tag to something instead of the the top general one/both. Still, it probably does remove some work. Still seeing a duplicate category (1 now, though, so some of them were removed.). Someone might have to modify the computing template. edit again I'm also wondering how the table on our articles would be affected, how would the bot in charge of updating it count 'software' articles? (as in does it count computing articles w/ the software=yes tag as both computing and software? I really have no idea, so just asking) ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 01:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, if you can integrate all these in a banner, Hail you !!! (I think, you didn't get me, & ain't getting you [:(]) – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 18:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the importance should be change to priority. Ex: This article has been rated as Mid-priority on the priority scale.
Illegal Operation (
talk) 21:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I believe we have a consensus to have an intergated banner for WP:Software as per the above discussion. Thank you for all your participation and comments. I will be doing the replacement and intergation of the banner soon. -- Tinu Cherian - 06:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to You, behalf of the whole team. – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 02:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
{{
WikiProject Computing|software=yes|software-importance=}}
banner for articles under
Category:Software stubs and
Category:Software and its subcategeries with
TinucherianBot . We have lots of work in improving these articles which falls under our project . --
Tinu
Cherian - 08:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)Any members can use the WikiProject Software's
Sandbox to try out new features to use in articles or to improve the WikiProject Software main page.
Thanks,
Tyw7, formerly Troop350 (
Talk ●
Contributions) 21:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Malware is truly a "dead project", and it is related to WikiProject Software. Therefore, it should be brought under WikiProject Software. -- Tyw7, formerly Troop350 ( Talk ● Contributions) 10:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank You,
Sephiroth storm ( talk) 18:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
{{
WikiProject Computing|malware=yes}}
--
Tinu
Cherian - 04:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC){{WikiProject Computing|class=start|importance=Mid|software=yes|software-importance=low}}
Sephiroth storm ( talk) 10:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Done : You may use as
{{
WikiProject Computing|malware=yes|malware-importance=}}
{{WikiProject Computing|class=Start|malware=yes|malware-importance=High}}
--
Tinu
Cherian - 12:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Sephiroth storm ( talk) 13:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I propose a new organization for this WikiProject:
The position will be abolished. Replaced by 6 Coordinators and 8 scouts (to look for new articles needing updating)
Full Organization:
Thanks -- Tyw7, leading innovation ( Talk ● Contributions) 13:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering, it seems like it could be slightly narrower, and possibly have some parts condensed (or summarized) ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 01:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.
We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.
A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.
We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Wikiproject: Free software is essentially a subset of articles that can be considered WP:S, so in being more concise, for some articles, it would be better to have their banner. However, they don't have a integrated banner (or do they?), so should I add both, or replace {{WP Computing}}? ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 20:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Free software is quite different than commercial software or software in general, free software has an educational propose, and we can’t miss this very important point (which triggers the generation of free software). so I think free software must be treated in a quite different manner with a different criteria for evaluation « PuTTY Sch OOL 19:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps use the same coloring/add a border and merge it into the template? Merely a aesthetic question. (also, I thought .svg's were the preferred file type?) ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 05:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Just a note to let the project know that Common Unix Printing System has been placed on hold following its GA Sweeps Review, whuch can be found here. -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 16:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Though generally reviews about a particular software should be included in the Wikipedia article, as far as I know, many non-featured software articles do not have reception section (e.g. XnView has been awarded by various sites, but until recently the article does not mention external reviews). I has been caring for this problem since one article I watch, XnView, was nominated for deletion last year, claiming it has no notability, but in fact it has high popularity. O&O Defrag, IZArc, and K-Lite Codec Pack all have similar situations. I think all project members should strive to search for information about software reception from independent computer books, magazines and websites to solve this serious problem. -- RekishiEJ ( talk) 13:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Backslash paper has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Backslash paper. The deletion is proposed due to lack of notability. Thank you. Cybercobra ( talk) 07:05, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
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We don't need "leaders" of a WikiProject of three people. Large WikiProjects like Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history have coordinators because of the size of the project, but one for a group of three is unnecessary. Please take out the leadership categories. Thank you, Metros ( talk) 15:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I have added WikiProject Free Software to the list of sub-projects of this one. flaming lawyer c 16:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Does that mean everyone, or some select group of people? I don't really know the different type of users on Wikipedia (other than admins) ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 20:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.
Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot ( Disable) 20:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Should we? And if not, do I leave the class blank or do I classify it as n/a? Also, how do you classify something as not applicable (class)? ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 21:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and replace it with the software one if no one objects, feel free to revert it. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 01:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
An important discussion on " Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ? " is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - , member of WikiProject Council. 15:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Does this WikiProject consist of doing anything other hundreds of edits to make the project page look pretty (and the subsequent constant requirement to fix the bad spelling and grammar that keeps getting added to the project page)? - Ahunt ( talk) 15:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks,
Tyw7, formerly Troop350 (
Talk ●
Contributions) 09:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that this project has been going around transcluding Wikipedia:WikiProject Software/parentage to various project pages, without consulting with any of the project members to do this, nor discussing the supposed organizational hierarchy, which is arguably flawed. This project was inactive for a long period of time and only recently someone has attempted a revival. While I do hope that something good comes of it, this project is still in its infancy compared to the more established computer-related projects and should not be editing unilaterally. Please discuss with other projects before attempting to redefine their own established organizational hierarchies. Ham Pastrami ( talk) 20:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
See:
User (T C) | Rank | Duties | Comments | Status |
---|---|---|---|---|
Sammy9990 ( T C) | Previous Leader | Retired | Founder | - |
Tyw7 ( T C) | Current Leader | This user is on temporary leave | Semi-Active | |
Deblopper ( T C) | Acting Leader | Managing the Contents to meet Wiki Standerd | ||
Arijit rim ( T C) | Contributor | Semi - Active | ||
TinuCherian ( T C) | Acting Leader; Assistant Leader; Coordinator | Contributor, Assessment | Active |
ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 04:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
See
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Software/Archive_2#Leaders? for relevant discussion in the past.
Metros (
talk) 21:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I have been trying to figure out what this project is all about ever since I was invited to join it. It is pretty obvious that it isn't mostly about improving articles. Anyway I finally figured it out. I have better things to do here on Wikipedia than be a member of a supporting cast for someone else's problem, so goodbye. - Ahunt ( talk) 01:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
This project is a subset of the parent project
WP:COMPUTING.This project articles contains both {{
WikiProject Software}} and {{
WikiProject Computing}} and possibly other descendant wikiproject banners also.
I am proposing the use of the integrated banner of {{
WikiProject Computing}} , if there is a consensus among our project members...
Example :
{{WikiProject Computing|class=start|importance=Mid|software=yes|software-importance=low}}
will produce...
(removed)
The advantages of this are :-
Possible Actions:
Thoughts ?? -- Tinu Cherian - 10:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Edit:Also, can someone fix the categories the templates use? We have overlapping ones (as of now anyway, see bottom). ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 21:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Let me further explain : The seperate importance ratings are important and has the following advantages :
Please note that this initative is extended and in discussion with all the computer related Wikiprojects and there is more or less unanimous support now.
You may need not consider this banner integration as an overhead as I will make sure the present importance rating for this project is properly carried over to the new banner parameters during the banner intergation . I will make sure there is no or minimal overhead to the descendant project members for this banner intergation ( TinucherianBot is a hardworking Bot :) ). Whether or not the you may need to add importance rating to newer articles is left to the descendant WikiProject members.
This initiative is to reduce the Bureaucracy and administrative overhead on computer related WikiProjects and enhance greater collabration and cooperation.The result : you have more time to work on the articles of your interest. -- Tinu Cherian - 05:30, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
comment Would it be possible for a bot to auto-rate a unrated page as a stub if its rated as a stub on another project's template & has a stub tag (any) on the article? Also, I really don't see much bureaucracy reduced (at least, for me) cause I usually just add the most relevant project's tag to something instead of the the top general one/both. Still, it probably does remove some work. Still seeing a duplicate category (1 now, though, so some of them were removed.). Someone might have to modify the computing template. edit again I'm also wondering how the table on our articles would be affected, how would the bot in charge of updating it count 'software' articles? (as in does it count computing articles w/ the software=yes tag as both computing and software? I really have no idea, so just asking) ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 01:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, if you can integrate all these in a banner, Hail you !!! (I think, you didn't get me, & ain't getting you [:(]) – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 18:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the importance should be change to priority. Ex: This article has been rated as Mid-priority on the priority scale.
Illegal Operation (
talk) 21:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I believe we have a consensus to have an intergated banner for WP:Software as per the above discussion. Thank you for all your participation and comments. I will be doing the replacement and intergation of the banner soon. -- Tinu Cherian - 06:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to You, behalf of the whole team. – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 02:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
{{
WikiProject Computing|software=yes|software-importance=}}
banner for articles under
Category:Software stubs and
Category:Software and its subcategeries with
TinucherianBot . We have lots of work in improving these articles which falls under our project . --
Tinu
Cherian - 08:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)Any members can use the WikiProject Software's
Sandbox to try out new features to use in articles or to improve the WikiProject Software main page.
Thanks,
Tyw7, formerly Troop350 (
Talk ●
Contributions) 21:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Malware is truly a "dead project", and it is related to WikiProject Software. Therefore, it should be brought under WikiProject Software. -- Tyw7, formerly Troop350 ( Talk ● Contributions) 10:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank You,
Sephiroth storm ( talk) 18:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
{{
WikiProject Computing|malware=yes}}
--
Tinu
Cherian - 04:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC){{WikiProject Computing|class=start|importance=Mid|software=yes|software-importance=low}}
Sephiroth storm ( talk) 10:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Done : You may use as
{{
WikiProject Computing|malware=yes|malware-importance=}}
{{WikiProject Computing|class=Start|malware=yes|malware-importance=High}}
--
Tinu
Cherian - 12:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Sephiroth storm ( talk) 13:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I propose a new organization for this WikiProject:
The position will be abolished. Replaced by 6 Coordinators and 8 scouts (to look for new articles needing updating)
Full Organization:
Thanks -- Tyw7, leading innovation ( Talk ● Contributions) 13:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering, it seems like it could be slightly narrower, and possibly have some parts condensed (or summarized) ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 01:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.
We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.
A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.
We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Wikiproject: Free software is essentially a subset of articles that can be considered WP:S, so in being more concise, for some articles, it would be better to have their banner. However, they don't have a integrated banner (or do they?), so should I add both, or replace {{WP Computing}}? ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 20:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Free software is quite different than commercial software or software in general, free software has an educational propose, and we can’t miss this very important point (which triggers the generation of free software). so I think free software must be treated in a quite different manner with a different criteria for evaluation « PuTTY Sch OOL 19:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps use the same coloring/add a border and merge it into the template? Merely a aesthetic question. (also, I thought .svg's were the preferred file type?) ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 05:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Just a note to let the project know that Common Unix Printing System has been placed on hold following its GA Sweeps Review, whuch can be found here. -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 16:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Though generally reviews about a particular software should be included in the Wikipedia article, as far as I know, many non-featured software articles do not have reception section (e.g. XnView has been awarded by various sites, but until recently the article does not mention external reviews). I has been caring for this problem since one article I watch, XnView, was nominated for deletion last year, claiming it has no notability, but in fact it has high popularity. O&O Defrag, IZArc, and K-Lite Codec Pack all have similar situations. I think all project members should strive to search for information about software reception from independent computer books, magazines and websites to solve this serious problem. -- RekishiEJ ( talk) 13:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Backslash paper has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Backslash paper. The deletion is proposed due to lack of notability. Thank you. Cybercobra ( talk) 07:05, 27 December 2008 (UTC)