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User:DynamoDegsy has begun moving the names of articles using (rugby player) as a disambiguation to (rugby union). As I recall it wasl decided not to do this the last time it was discussed and I have asked him to stop and discuss here before continuing. noq ( talk) 15:12, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
If someone wants to go through and make all those disambigs consistent they would have my support. It would make it a lot easier when linking terms/names if all we had to remember was one. There was really no previous agreement last time (the discussion seemed to peter out), but if you follow WP:NCDAB it makes a case for keeping it simple (i.e. mythology not mythological figure). I felt that when I was changing the positional names that the majority used (rugby union) so in practical terms it should be easier to make that the standard name. I really see no potential for anybody to get Scrum (rugby union) confused with Jason Little (rugby union). It looks like the Rugby League project tends to use (rugby league) [1] so it would be consistent with them too. The only issue I can think of is when two or more players all played rugby union, which thanks to Welsh unoriginality when it comes to names happens quite a lot (see William Williams (rugby players)). In these cases it might be best to use (rugby union player born ????), although this doesn't mean we still can't keep (rugby union). AIRcorn (talk) 19:47, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
As to Fruitmonkeys point, according to the DAB page they are not supposed to be descriptive. If a coach or referee has the same name as a player then the extra qualifier can be added, otherwise a simple rugby union works (many were players before in any case). AIRcorn (talk) 20:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
I'd support using (rugby union). A lot of players, particularly high-profile players with high-traffic articles, will be involved in different contexts, because they've also been administrators, referees, coaches, commentators etc, so (rugby union player) would be too narrow. BiggerAristotle ( talk) 10:22, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
We decided a long time ago at the rugby league Wikiproject to save ourselves choosing between John Lang (rugby league player) or John Lang (rugby league coach) by just going with John Lang (rugby league). You won't find a single rugby league biography with 'player' or 'coach' tacked onto the end because it's been working fine without. We've gone the way of baseball/basketball/tennis on this and it would be a massive (and pointless IMO) exercise to change that.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 15:23, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Would it be possible to get some closure on this issue. How about a few more days to allow anyone else to voice an opinion and then a poll if nothing is obvious. I think either (as long as it is consistent) is better than what we have at the moment so maybe it should be a straight vote count? AIRcorn (talk) 02:39, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
FruitMonkey ( talk) 23:36, 11 January 2012 (UTC) This has gone stale and I feel there is enough consensus above to use rugby union. Unless there is some activity here within the next few days I will look into changing the disambiguations to (rugby union) where appropriate. AIRcorn (talk) 23:23, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi guys, I'm not sure how you disambiguate, but there are two rugby union players both called 'Phil Murphy' - articles currently at Phil Murphy and Phil Murphy (rugby union) - would it be by nationality? Disambiguation is needed to differentiate from Phil Murphy (footballer). Cheers, Giant Snowman 23:22, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Talk:Pro_12#Requested_move , Thanks Gnevin ( talk) 15:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
User:Bjmullan has taken upon himself to add an Ulster flag
to the league table, rather than using this
& I thought the whole point in having this flag
was so we could avoid issues like this. I don't want to start some massive flag debate as these questions inevitable do. I just want to know should I revert his edit. Thanks ★☆
DUCKISJAMMMY☆★
23:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
The Irish flag issue has been a persistent and irritating question. One policy should be kept and enforced.
"What I don't understand is why Bjmullan only changed the Ulster flag and not the Leinster, Munster or Connacht ones. " - Maybe he equates Ulster with Northern Ireland. Which it isn't. A 1/3 of Ulster is not in the UK.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
The list has recently been updated after a gap of a few months but it appears that Joe Simpson has been missed off.
Joe made his England debut against Georgia in the Rugby World Cup in Dunedin on 18 September 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.220.80.65 ( talk) 12:05, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Does the 2011 end of year women's rugby tests page (and the title) look ok to the project? There was some discussion about it at the NZ project and I said I'd raise it here for you to have a look at. Mattlore ( talk) 20:51, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed that all the articles on English Premiership seasons are named in the format "20xx–yy English Premiership (rugby union)", except 2005–06, which is "2005–06 Guinness Premiership". Is there a reason for this apparent inconsistency? Colonies Chris ( talk) 10:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Afghanistan is sending its rugby side overseas for the first time ever at the end of April (Dubai, and then Glastonbury in June), so I would imagine the wiki articles for Afghan rugby might start getting some hits. The article existed only in English until today, when I whipped up a quick, shorter version in Spanish.
Any chance folks could take a look and knock out a 10-minute lede-translation into other languages? That's about how long es:Rugby en Afganistán took me, and for other Latin-based languages you can probably just modify that one slightly and get it done in 5 minutes. Thanks for any assistance! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 15:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if this is in the right place, but is anyone able to alter the kit on the Pontypool RFC page? Currently the shirt is red and white hoops, but should be red, white and black. Thanks Shenko316 ( talk) 11:13, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
I've managed to cannibalise an existing one, although not sure how to get it on there now (if at all possible) am happy to email someone a copy to see if they can do anything with it? Thanks Shenko316 ( talk) 21:46, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone add a table with wins, draws, losses and points scored and received by each team? That seems to me very relevant. Thanks! -- NaBUru38 ( talk) 20:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
The Heineken Cup was originally called the European Rugby Cup. It was know as this from the 1995/96 season to the 1998/99 season. In fact, it is only known as the Heineken Cup for sponsorship reasons. Should all articles surrounding seasons 1995/96 to 1998/99 at the very least be renamed from Heineken Cup to European Rugby Cup considering it was never known as the Heineken Cup during these years ? ManfromDelmonte ( talk) 16:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Doesn't played in an officially recognized domestic or international competition organized by an International Rugby Board High Performance Union, make every club in a tier 1 nation notable ? Gnevin ( talk) 16:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
There is a quote in the intro of Comparison_of_rugby_league_and_rugby_union which I contend is in breech of WP:NPOV and WP:LEAD but an other user disagrees can you have a look Talk:Comparison_of_rugby_league_and_rugby_union#Quote_in_the_intro? Gnevin ( talk) 12:37, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I destubed the abovementioned article. Could someone please check for its language? I'm not sure it's flawless as English is not my native language :"> Thanks -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 14:13, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
I have created the page Comparison of Canadian football and rugby union, but unfortunately it contains too many references to American football. I was hoping that some people from this project could help improve it. I'm not really au fait with the precise differences between CF and AF, other than pitch size... Many thanks -- MacRusgail ( talk) 15:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
2011 end of year rugby union tests and 2011 mid-year rugby test series articles have a "very" diferent name, why? is there a reason to that? can we agree on a "official" title to this event? same with the 2012-- Feroang ( talk) 03:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I did start this article 2012 in rugby union, like others sport do 2012 in rugby league, 2012 in association football, but I am not good enough to finish it, hope this community can take care of it turning it in the right way, which I dont know, also there is a 2011 in rugby union too, maybe imcomplete.-- Feroang ( talk) 03:52, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I noticed on
Argentina that in the table of results
[4] the "% Win" against New Zealand is not 0, yet the number of wins against New Zealand is 0.
It seems that this calculation has included draws as wins, which they are not. I have noticed simiar methodology on
Australia, for example they have won 20/30 games against Ireland, with 1 draw, and the % Win is not 66.66%, but rather 21/30.
Is this an intentional decision, or some oversight? I am prepared to (at some point) go through and try to correct these errors, but I won't do that if there is a feeling the status quo is correct.
I have considered that perhaps this error was included in the reference for the Argentina table
[5], but that shows a Win % against NZ of 0%, which is what I expect.
Also, on
New Zealand the % Win against Argentina is not 100%, as there the draw is not counted as a win. Given this inconsistency, I will try and clean this up, and if no one has objections, I'll go the direction of not counting draws as wins.
Waltersom (
talk)
07:36, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
There is still some confusion surround the notabilty guidelines. For example if Fairwater_RFC ( Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Fairwater_RFC) had no international would it still be notable? What do we consider a regional or national league? In Wales the league becomes "regional" after 1 tier List_of_Welsh_rugby_union_clubs_by_division but in Ireland it's 3, the scots go to 6? Gnevin ( talk) 15:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Hey people, I just knocked together an article on former Scotland international Herbert Bullmore but, as mentioned, I have no idea about rugby so could someone swing by it to make sure I make sense when writing about the rugby bit? Ta. -- Roisterer ( talk) 09:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I am working through the Celtic League / Magners League / Pro12 seasons. I wanted to add a Magners League logo to the appropriate seasons. does anyone know where I can get one? Hamish59 ( talk) 17:50, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
{{ RU combo squad player}}, {{ RU combo squad start}} and {{ RU combo squad end}} have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to participate in the deletion discussion. DH85868993 ( talk) 06:57, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
{{ Rugby squad S14 player}}, {{ Rugby squad S14 start}}, {{ Rugby squad player country}}, {{ Rugby squad country start}}, {{ Rugby squad country mid}} and {{ Rugby squad country end}} have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment at the deletion discussion. DH85868993 ( talk) 05:01, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Template:Super rugby squad start and
Template:Super rugby finals system have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the templates' entry on the Templates for discussion page.
DH85868993 (
talk)
14:04, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm trying to complete the records for a few players but am a bit stuck on the 'stats' box for Lenny Woodard. Does anyone know how to make the box longer so that all his playing stats can be included. it seems to cut off about halfway down. Thoughts/advice welcome! Thanks Shenko316 ( talk) 17:11, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Is that changeable? I'm not sure I have enough know-how to start messing with templates! Shenko316 ( talk) 16:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Need feedback. I am considering making articles for club and college national tournaments in the US. It is hard to say what is notable however since USA does not have very high level professional competition. Libro0 ( talk) 22:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
I was strongly considering doing a tournament called the Monterey Invitational later called the Pebble Beach Classic. Although it was not an official national championship it was the oldest and most prestigious and it was referred as an unofficial national championship before US rugby began their tournament. Libro0 ( talk) 19:18, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Should articles like Berks/Bucks & Oxon 1, Berks/Bucks & Oxon 2, Berks/Bucks & Oxon 3 North, Berks/Bucks & Oxon 3 South, Berks/Bucks & Oxon 4 be merged into one article i.e. Berks/Bucks & Oxon (rugby union)? Because there's a lot of examples of competition articles like that on the Template:Rugby union in England, and it may be a good idea to merge them. Or at least that's what we've done over at WP:Football (see Southend Borough Combination, Bristol and District Football League, East Riding County League etc.). Del♉sion23 (talk) 19:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I've requested that Blues (rugby union) be moved to Blues (Super Rugby) due to the ambiguity with Cardiff Blues. The move request can be found at Talk:Blues (rugby union)#Requested move (2012). – Pee Jay 08:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Chiefs (rugby union) and Sharks (rugby union) fall into the same criteria. I tried to standardise the Super Rugby teams a while ago and consensus was adjudged to use rugby union (see Talk:Crusaders (rugby union)#Requested move (multiple)). Given the recent move discussions above at at Talk:Lions (Super Rugby)#Requested move that consensus is no longer valid. Prehaps all the Super Rugby teams that require disambiguating should be moved to (Super Rugby). AIRcorn (talk) 04:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Do we have the same problem with Blues (rugby team) which forwards to the Auckland Blues i.e. Blues (Super Rugby) page? This also ignores the New South Wales Rugby League Team which are also informally known as the Blues. - Cymrog ( talk) 21:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
When using Template:Infobox rugby biography, should appearances in the Heineken Cup and LV Cup be counted in the appearances and points totals, or should it only count league appearances? Template:Infobox Rugby Union biography, explicitly states the latter, is that the wikipedia standard? -- Kafuffle ( talk) 22:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Should the club v country matches (e.g. Gloucester v Fiji) be included in the 2012 end-of-year rugby union tests article? I am of the opinion that they should not, since they are not full internationals, let alone test matches. Could people please weigh in with their own opinions at Talk:2012 end-of-year rugby union tests? Cheers. – Pee Jay 10:59, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I am currently engaged in a dispute with an editor regarding 2 templates i created that are viewable on my user page - with the dispute viewable here. These templates are for 2 rugby teams and both initially had colour schemes that represented the teams colours. However, an editor has removed these colours to keep the templates following the standard for all other rugby team templates. My question is as stated in this heading: why don't rugby team templates have colour schemes? Shouldn't rugby follow the Wikipedia standard of having the team colours represented on the template?...As is the case with other team templates from rugby league, to AFL, MLB, NFL, NBA, hurling, Gaelic football e.t.c.
I simply don't understand the reasoning and why it hasn't changed to follow others team templates. Thanks. Suid-Afrikaanse ( talk) 09:44, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay, so i had a read of the 2008 discussion and i was wandering whether we could start a new discussion of the colour template issue, since the last was 4 years ago & only conducted over a 3 day period. As we all know, Wikipedia has come a long way since then. I also think the last discussion was less effective due to 1 editor being a sock-puppet and another giving-up in frustration.
After reading the 2008 discussion, i saw that 2 recurring themes were used by the "plain template" group as arguments against colour templates:
Now, if i may, i would like to present arguments for colour templates - while also responding to the above pro-plain arguments:
A solution (which follows the consensus of other sporting templates but maintains the independence of rugby within Wikipedia) could be that we allow colour in the rugby templates only for the title & the border i.e. the title colour follows the main colour of the jersey, the border colour follows the second most prominent colour of the jersey, and the background colour is always - say - white. That way we have presentable templates, with no issue of "garish" looking templates.
Colour templates must be adopted because this is the consensus for all prominent team sports on Wikipedia. It is going to happen sooner or later because rugby cannot live in its own ecosystem separated from the rest of Wikipedia. I'm not sure what is driving the pro-plain group in their position: perhaps it may have its origin in the whole amateur vs. professional argument that still seems to linger in the rugby air. Whatever it is, rugby needs to catch-up & join the rest of the sporting fraternity. Suid-Afrikaanse ( talk) 01:25, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
And templates like this for test rugby:
Obviously, each team having its own colour scheme (for both club & test rugby) & flag (exclusively for test rugby).
I hope i am allowed to actually add these templates on this page. I just thought it would be more helpful to peoples understanding if i did so. Suid-Afrikaanse ( talk) 23:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Look, we can go on all day & around in circles about how ugly, coloured templates are, or whether they aid the article e.t.c but at the end of the day we are missing the crux of the issue: the Wikipedia team-sport template standard is coloured templates - not plain ones. I just don't see how some rugby editors can legitimately resist that standard. So before i carry on going around in circles on this talk page, i am going to see where i stand by discussing on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports. Suid-Afrikaanse ( talk) 02:03, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
They used to have colour during my era but then the old farts of Wikipedia Rugby decided they liked England and decided to change all the colour to England's alternate strip, PURPLE.....-- Stemoc ( talk) 11:48, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Category:Rugby biography stubs, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you.. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 11:18, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian ( talk) 02:53, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if the RU project really still exists these days - mostly seems to be invidual editors doing their own things, but in case anyone is still out there, I stumbled across this in an WP:RU talk archive - its a bot-generated list of recently created articles which might have some RU content. Looks like it updates itself every day. Is it worth keeping handy on here so other articles can be linked to new ones etc?-- Bcp67 ( talk) 19:48, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
They are trying to delete this again. Please add your support here Talk:2013 end of year rugby union tests Hamish59 ( talk) 22:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
A page on the Irish player Tom Reid at Articles for Creation could do with a bit of help providing references. It looks as if there's plenty out there, but I don't know anything about rugby myself :) Dsp13 ( talk) 13:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I am attempting to write an article on Aylestonians rfc without any success. Here is a link to what I have worked on already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Aylestonians_RUFC. Hopefully you will be able to help me get this published. Thank you in advance Aaron O'Rourke Aaron O'Rourke (Aaron1477) 16:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron1477 ( talk • contribs) ps, I try to sign but it keeps saying I am unsigned despite putting 4 tidels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron1477 ( talk • contribs) 17:00, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
The problem I am having is that this club has had notable players such as Harry Sibson who is credited with the introduction of the offside rule as well as competing at regional level until very recently. The article I have submitted has more references and infrmation that [Leicester lions] [aylestone athletic] and [syston] yet they all have pages and it is starting to feel like my page is being discriminated against. I know this is starting to sound like I am becoming emotional but my article has sound references and is about a club that has made history and is currently working with the RFU at grass roots level to continue the development of the grass roots game.Aaron O'Rourke (Aaron1477) 22:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron1477 ( talk • contribs)
Working on this article, I discovered that Kilburn, primarily a cricket journalist on the Yorkshire Post between 1934 and 1976, was also that newspaper's rugby correspondent. The sources are sadly lacking on his work in this role; does anyone have anything at all on him as a rugby writer? Any help gratefully received! Sarastro1 ( talk) 11:00, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
In a recent debate, Pee Jay have mentions that converstion times should not be aloud on articles. I personaly disagree as on Offical score sheets that commentators and broadcasters use who are perfessinal, convesrtion times are used. This is why I personaly think Converstion times should remain on articles like the 2013 Six Nations Championship. What does everyone else think?
I started re-assessing the Importance of Clubs against http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Rugby_union/Assessment#Importance_scale Almost all Premiership / Pro12 / Top14 Clubs are rated High which is not correct, IMO. My initial reading of the High Importance criteria
and the Mid Importance criteria
was Clubs that have won the Heinenken Cup should be High, other Premiership / Pro12 / Top14 Clubs should be Mid. Now I am not sure. Can anyone clarify, please. Hamish59 ( talk) 12:48, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Having had a bit of a think about this one, I am going to do the following:
I am going to keep clear of the Southern Hemisphere as this is beyond my ken. Hamish59 ( talk) 14:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
User:Rugby.change seems hell-bent on adding week-by-week standings to the most recent Six Nations articles, and using the countries' national colours to shade each cell of the table. Not only is this garish and probably in violation of WP:ACCESS, the table is pretty pointless. Because the Six Nations is so short, showing the standings after each round of games is unnecessary - early on, positions change like nobody's business, and later in the tournament, they hardly change at all. Plus, what difference does it make which team was in 3rd place in week 2? None whatsoever. The standings are also unsourced, though there is an argument that they have been synthesised based on simple mathematics; however, there is no evidence to suggest that the tie-breaking criteria for the Six Nations apply at any time other than the end of the tournament, so their application at earlier points may not be supported by evidence. An anonymous objector at Talk:2012 Six Nations Championship made the point that we could easily add game-by-game standings (i.e. 15 different tables) or even minute-by-minute if we had the inclination, so to add week-by-week seems a little arbitrary. Finally, if we have week-by-week tables, what do we do when a match is postponed to outside its original game week? Treating it as though it was played in that week would be inappropriate and inaccurate, while leaving it out until after it is played would defeat the point of having the table in the first place. Anyway, if you guys could express your opinions, positive or negative, about these week-by-week standings tables, I'd appreciate it. – Pee Jay 08:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
There is currently a straw poll running about this issue. Perhaps some users could have a look ? Talk:2012_Six_Nations_Championship#Use_of_Week_by_week_Standings. Thanks. Gnevin ( talk) 11:52, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a courtesy message to inform the members of this project that I have nominated Portal:Sports for featured portal status. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Sports. The featured portal criteria are at Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria. Please feel free to weigh in. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:38, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
This is a recently-created category, including both RU and RL individuals, which I've got a couple of questions on. First off - should we have separate "rugby union players..." etc, and "rugby league players..."etc, rather than just "rugby players...." etc? Secondly, is it a category for people awarded knighthoods for their rugby deeds, or for people who happened to play rugby and were awarded a knighthood? I've just added Wavell Wakefield, who is an example of the latter type (knighted for political service) but I'm not sure if he really fits the criteria. -- Bcp67 ( talk) 20:56, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
I've just received a question about the notability of Associação Académica de Coimbra (rugby union) which I created (I admit rather casually in the process of housekeeping, primarily to replace an embedded link to the fr.wp article for the rugby club in the main Associação Académica de Coimbra article). Would just like to confirm the rugby club meets notability for a standalone article. Cheers. In ictu oculi ( talk) 14:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Category:1883–84 in Irish rugby union and 104 other similar categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 12:40, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Category:1982–83 in Spanish rugby union and 24 other similar categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:21, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Category:1965–66 in Romanian rugby union and 45 other similar categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 19:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Category:Seasons in Argentine rugby union and its 57 sub-categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 09:03, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
FYI RM here Talk:New Zealand national rugby union sevens team Gnevin ( talk) 10:38, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated List of 1888–1889 New Zealand Native football team matches as a featured list candidate. Members of this project may be interested in the discussion, which can be viewed here. Any comments or questions would be welcomed. - Shudde talk 11:35, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Peer review request for Thomas Ellison
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- Shudde talk 07:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
There is now an WP:IRC channel for collaboration between editors in various sports WikiProjects. It's located at #wikipedia-en-sports connect. Thanks Secret account 03:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
There is an edit war at the Leinster Rugby article, seems it needs to be discussed as to whether the Aviva Stadium should be listed as a home stadium or not. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 19:30, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Now Leinster have often the 5 H Cup games in the aviva plus Ulster and Munster in the Pro 12. Playing nearly 50% of your home games... What they actually do is: play one HCup pool game at the Aviva and any home HCup knockout games they may get, plus the regular season League game at home to Munster. That is all. Certainly not Ulster / 5 H Cup / 50%. Note, they do not bother to go to the Aviva for any home playoff games in the Pro12 either (nor in the Amlin, come to that). In the three seasons since the Aviva opened:
In none of the three seasons have they gone anywhere near 50% home games at the Aviva. 4 / 17 = 23% is the best. Hamish59 ( talk) 12:51, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
I recently nominated Thomas Ellison as a Featured Article Candidate – the nomination can be viewed here. Ellison was a Māori rugby footballer who played in the late 19th century; he is probably best remembered for proposing that the New Zealand team adopt a black uniform. Sorry this is a bit late, I forgot to post a message to the project letting everyone know about the nomination. - Shudde talk 11:21, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
When adding myself to the list of participants I seem to have somehow created a formatting problem. I have tried to rectify it but without success. I am sorry - I'm not a very experienced editor and not very good with the technical aspects of editing. Hopefully somebody with more experience than me can rectify it without too much trouble. Thanks! Neljack ( talk) 00:35, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
NorthwickP has added "Starting XV 2012-13" sections to various Premiership rugby teams: Northampton Saints, Leicester Tigers, Harlequin F.C. and Saracen F.C.. I cannot see the relavence of these new sections. In fact, I do not understand what they are supposed to represent - team that started the first game of the season? Players who have played the most often in the given position? First choice players for a given postion? The citation(s) given simply point to squad lists (either on StatBunker or official website) and do not clarify anything.
So I reverted all of them, and left a note on NorthwickP's talk page. Now an IP has waded in and reverted me on all four articles: 90.39.134.125 I have reverted again with anote pointing at this talk page per WP:BRD.
My contention is that the additions are 1) uncited 2) meaningless 3) mere decoration.
I do not want to start an edit-war, or break WP:3RR so I would be grateful of any illumination anyone here can give me. Hamish59 ( talk) 13:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Far from being "very hard to maintain", they are very simple indeed. We have 119 Category:English football club seasons by club, and some of those have dozens of individual season articles. It's not hard at all. In fact, a quick glance around the rugby articles, there are already a couple of Saracens F.C. season articles and five Cornish Pirates season articles. The Rambling Man ( talk) 15:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
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User:DynamoDegsy has begun moving the names of articles using (rugby player) as a disambiguation to (rugby union). As I recall it wasl decided not to do this the last time it was discussed and I have asked him to stop and discuss here before continuing. noq ( talk) 15:12, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
If someone wants to go through and make all those disambigs consistent they would have my support. It would make it a lot easier when linking terms/names if all we had to remember was one. There was really no previous agreement last time (the discussion seemed to peter out), but if you follow WP:NCDAB it makes a case for keeping it simple (i.e. mythology not mythological figure). I felt that when I was changing the positional names that the majority used (rugby union) so in practical terms it should be easier to make that the standard name. I really see no potential for anybody to get Scrum (rugby union) confused with Jason Little (rugby union). It looks like the Rugby League project tends to use (rugby league) [1] so it would be consistent with them too. The only issue I can think of is when two or more players all played rugby union, which thanks to Welsh unoriginality when it comes to names happens quite a lot (see William Williams (rugby players)). In these cases it might be best to use (rugby union player born ????), although this doesn't mean we still can't keep (rugby union). AIRcorn (talk) 19:47, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
As to Fruitmonkeys point, according to the DAB page they are not supposed to be descriptive. If a coach or referee has the same name as a player then the extra qualifier can be added, otherwise a simple rugby union works (many were players before in any case). AIRcorn (talk) 20:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
I'd support using (rugby union). A lot of players, particularly high-profile players with high-traffic articles, will be involved in different contexts, because they've also been administrators, referees, coaches, commentators etc, so (rugby union player) would be too narrow. BiggerAristotle ( talk) 10:22, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
We decided a long time ago at the rugby league Wikiproject to save ourselves choosing between John Lang (rugby league player) or John Lang (rugby league coach) by just going with John Lang (rugby league). You won't find a single rugby league biography with 'player' or 'coach' tacked onto the end because it's been working fine without. We've gone the way of baseball/basketball/tennis on this and it would be a massive (and pointless IMO) exercise to change that.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 15:23, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Would it be possible to get some closure on this issue. How about a few more days to allow anyone else to voice an opinion and then a poll if nothing is obvious. I think either (as long as it is consistent) is better than what we have at the moment so maybe it should be a straight vote count? AIRcorn (talk) 02:39, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
FruitMonkey ( talk) 23:36, 11 January 2012 (UTC) This has gone stale and I feel there is enough consensus above to use rugby union. Unless there is some activity here within the next few days I will look into changing the disambiguations to (rugby union) where appropriate. AIRcorn (talk) 23:23, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi guys, I'm not sure how you disambiguate, but there are two rugby union players both called 'Phil Murphy' - articles currently at Phil Murphy and Phil Murphy (rugby union) - would it be by nationality? Disambiguation is needed to differentiate from Phil Murphy (footballer). Cheers, Giant Snowman 23:22, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Talk:Pro_12#Requested_move , Thanks Gnevin ( talk) 15:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
User:Bjmullan has taken upon himself to add an Ulster flag
to the league table, rather than using this
& I thought the whole point in having this flag
was so we could avoid issues like this. I don't want to start some massive flag debate as these questions inevitable do. I just want to know should I revert his edit. Thanks ★☆
DUCKISJAMMMY☆★
23:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
The Irish flag issue has been a persistent and irritating question. One policy should be kept and enforced.
"What I don't understand is why Bjmullan only changed the Ulster flag and not the Leinster, Munster or Connacht ones. " - Maybe he equates Ulster with Northern Ireland. Which it isn't. A 1/3 of Ulster is not in the UK.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
The list has recently been updated after a gap of a few months but it appears that Joe Simpson has been missed off.
Joe made his England debut against Georgia in the Rugby World Cup in Dunedin on 18 September 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.220.80.65 ( talk) 12:05, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Does the 2011 end of year women's rugby tests page (and the title) look ok to the project? There was some discussion about it at the NZ project and I said I'd raise it here for you to have a look at. Mattlore ( talk) 20:51, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed that all the articles on English Premiership seasons are named in the format "20xx–yy English Premiership (rugby union)", except 2005–06, which is "2005–06 Guinness Premiership". Is there a reason for this apparent inconsistency? Colonies Chris ( talk) 10:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Afghanistan is sending its rugby side overseas for the first time ever at the end of April (Dubai, and then Glastonbury in June), so I would imagine the wiki articles for Afghan rugby might start getting some hits. The article existed only in English until today, when I whipped up a quick, shorter version in Spanish.
Any chance folks could take a look and knock out a 10-minute lede-translation into other languages? That's about how long es:Rugby en Afganistán took me, and for other Latin-based languages you can probably just modify that one slightly and get it done in 5 minutes. Thanks for any assistance! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 15:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if this is in the right place, but is anyone able to alter the kit on the Pontypool RFC page? Currently the shirt is red and white hoops, but should be red, white and black. Thanks Shenko316 ( talk) 11:13, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
I've managed to cannibalise an existing one, although not sure how to get it on there now (if at all possible) am happy to email someone a copy to see if they can do anything with it? Thanks Shenko316 ( talk) 21:46, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone add a table with wins, draws, losses and points scored and received by each team? That seems to me very relevant. Thanks! -- NaBUru38 ( talk) 20:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
The Heineken Cup was originally called the European Rugby Cup. It was know as this from the 1995/96 season to the 1998/99 season. In fact, it is only known as the Heineken Cup for sponsorship reasons. Should all articles surrounding seasons 1995/96 to 1998/99 at the very least be renamed from Heineken Cup to European Rugby Cup considering it was never known as the Heineken Cup during these years ? ManfromDelmonte ( talk) 16:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Doesn't played in an officially recognized domestic or international competition organized by an International Rugby Board High Performance Union, make every club in a tier 1 nation notable ? Gnevin ( talk) 16:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
There is a quote in the intro of Comparison_of_rugby_league_and_rugby_union which I contend is in breech of WP:NPOV and WP:LEAD but an other user disagrees can you have a look Talk:Comparison_of_rugby_league_and_rugby_union#Quote_in_the_intro? Gnevin ( talk) 12:37, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I destubed the abovementioned article. Could someone please check for its language? I'm not sure it's flawless as English is not my native language :"> Thanks -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 14:13, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
I have created the page Comparison of Canadian football and rugby union, but unfortunately it contains too many references to American football. I was hoping that some people from this project could help improve it. I'm not really au fait with the precise differences between CF and AF, other than pitch size... Many thanks -- MacRusgail ( talk) 15:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
2011 end of year rugby union tests and 2011 mid-year rugby test series articles have a "very" diferent name, why? is there a reason to that? can we agree on a "official" title to this event? same with the 2012-- Feroang ( talk) 03:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I did start this article 2012 in rugby union, like others sport do 2012 in rugby league, 2012 in association football, but I am not good enough to finish it, hope this community can take care of it turning it in the right way, which I dont know, also there is a 2011 in rugby union too, maybe imcomplete.-- Feroang ( talk) 03:52, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I noticed on
Argentina that in the table of results
[4] the "% Win" against New Zealand is not 0, yet the number of wins against New Zealand is 0.
It seems that this calculation has included draws as wins, which they are not. I have noticed simiar methodology on
Australia, for example they have won 20/30 games against Ireland, with 1 draw, and the % Win is not 66.66%, but rather 21/30.
Is this an intentional decision, or some oversight? I am prepared to (at some point) go through and try to correct these errors, but I won't do that if there is a feeling the status quo is correct.
I have considered that perhaps this error was included in the reference for the Argentina table
[5], but that shows a Win % against NZ of 0%, which is what I expect.
Also, on
New Zealand the % Win against Argentina is not 100%, as there the draw is not counted as a win. Given this inconsistency, I will try and clean this up, and if no one has objections, I'll go the direction of not counting draws as wins.
Waltersom (
talk)
07:36, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
There is still some confusion surround the notabilty guidelines. For example if Fairwater_RFC ( Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Fairwater_RFC) had no international would it still be notable? What do we consider a regional or national league? In Wales the league becomes "regional" after 1 tier List_of_Welsh_rugby_union_clubs_by_division but in Ireland it's 3, the scots go to 6? Gnevin ( talk) 15:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Hey people, I just knocked together an article on former Scotland international Herbert Bullmore but, as mentioned, I have no idea about rugby so could someone swing by it to make sure I make sense when writing about the rugby bit? Ta. -- Roisterer ( talk) 09:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I am working through the Celtic League / Magners League / Pro12 seasons. I wanted to add a Magners League logo to the appropriate seasons. does anyone know where I can get one? Hamish59 ( talk) 17:50, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
{{ RU combo squad player}}, {{ RU combo squad start}} and {{ RU combo squad end}} have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to participate in the deletion discussion. DH85868993 ( talk) 06:57, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
{{ Rugby squad S14 player}}, {{ Rugby squad S14 start}}, {{ Rugby squad player country}}, {{ Rugby squad country start}}, {{ Rugby squad country mid}} and {{ Rugby squad country end}} have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment at the deletion discussion. DH85868993 ( talk) 05:01, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Template:Super rugby squad start and
Template:Super rugby finals system have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the templates' entry on the Templates for discussion page.
DH85868993 (
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14:04, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm trying to complete the records for a few players but am a bit stuck on the 'stats' box for Lenny Woodard. Does anyone know how to make the box longer so that all his playing stats can be included. it seems to cut off about halfway down. Thoughts/advice welcome! Thanks Shenko316 ( talk) 17:11, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Is that changeable? I'm not sure I have enough know-how to start messing with templates! Shenko316 ( talk) 16:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Need feedback. I am considering making articles for club and college national tournaments in the US. It is hard to say what is notable however since USA does not have very high level professional competition. Libro0 ( talk) 22:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
I was strongly considering doing a tournament called the Monterey Invitational later called the Pebble Beach Classic. Although it was not an official national championship it was the oldest and most prestigious and it was referred as an unofficial national championship before US rugby began their tournament. Libro0 ( talk) 19:18, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Should articles like Berks/Bucks & Oxon 1, Berks/Bucks & Oxon 2, Berks/Bucks & Oxon 3 North, Berks/Bucks & Oxon 3 South, Berks/Bucks & Oxon 4 be merged into one article i.e. Berks/Bucks & Oxon (rugby union)? Because there's a lot of examples of competition articles like that on the Template:Rugby union in England, and it may be a good idea to merge them. Or at least that's what we've done over at WP:Football (see Southend Borough Combination, Bristol and District Football League, East Riding County League etc.). Del♉sion23 (talk) 19:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I've requested that Blues (rugby union) be moved to Blues (Super Rugby) due to the ambiguity with Cardiff Blues. The move request can be found at Talk:Blues (rugby union)#Requested move (2012). – Pee Jay 08:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Chiefs (rugby union) and Sharks (rugby union) fall into the same criteria. I tried to standardise the Super Rugby teams a while ago and consensus was adjudged to use rugby union (see Talk:Crusaders (rugby union)#Requested move (multiple)). Given the recent move discussions above at at Talk:Lions (Super Rugby)#Requested move that consensus is no longer valid. Prehaps all the Super Rugby teams that require disambiguating should be moved to (Super Rugby). AIRcorn (talk) 04:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Do we have the same problem with Blues (rugby team) which forwards to the Auckland Blues i.e. Blues (Super Rugby) page? This also ignores the New South Wales Rugby League Team which are also informally known as the Blues. - Cymrog ( talk) 21:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
When using Template:Infobox rugby biography, should appearances in the Heineken Cup and LV Cup be counted in the appearances and points totals, or should it only count league appearances? Template:Infobox Rugby Union biography, explicitly states the latter, is that the wikipedia standard? -- Kafuffle ( talk) 22:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Should the club v country matches (e.g. Gloucester v Fiji) be included in the 2012 end-of-year rugby union tests article? I am of the opinion that they should not, since they are not full internationals, let alone test matches. Could people please weigh in with their own opinions at Talk:2012 end-of-year rugby union tests? Cheers. – Pee Jay 10:59, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I am currently engaged in a dispute with an editor regarding 2 templates i created that are viewable on my user page - with the dispute viewable here. These templates are for 2 rugby teams and both initially had colour schemes that represented the teams colours. However, an editor has removed these colours to keep the templates following the standard for all other rugby team templates. My question is as stated in this heading: why don't rugby team templates have colour schemes? Shouldn't rugby follow the Wikipedia standard of having the team colours represented on the template?...As is the case with other team templates from rugby league, to AFL, MLB, NFL, NBA, hurling, Gaelic football e.t.c.
I simply don't understand the reasoning and why it hasn't changed to follow others team templates. Thanks. Suid-Afrikaanse ( talk) 09:44, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay, so i had a read of the 2008 discussion and i was wandering whether we could start a new discussion of the colour template issue, since the last was 4 years ago & only conducted over a 3 day period. As we all know, Wikipedia has come a long way since then. I also think the last discussion was less effective due to 1 editor being a sock-puppet and another giving-up in frustration.
After reading the 2008 discussion, i saw that 2 recurring themes were used by the "plain template" group as arguments against colour templates:
Now, if i may, i would like to present arguments for colour templates - while also responding to the above pro-plain arguments:
A solution (which follows the consensus of other sporting templates but maintains the independence of rugby within Wikipedia) could be that we allow colour in the rugby templates only for the title & the border i.e. the title colour follows the main colour of the jersey, the border colour follows the second most prominent colour of the jersey, and the background colour is always - say - white. That way we have presentable templates, with no issue of "garish" looking templates.
Colour templates must be adopted because this is the consensus for all prominent team sports on Wikipedia. It is going to happen sooner or later because rugby cannot live in its own ecosystem separated from the rest of Wikipedia. I'm not sure what is driving the pro-plain group in their position: perhaps it may have its origin in the whole amateur vs. professional argument that still seems to linger in the rugby air. Whatever it is, rugby needs to catch-up & join the rest of the sporting fraternity. Suid-Afrikaanse ( talk) 01:25, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
And templates like this for test rugby:
Obviously, each team having its own colour scheme (for both club & test rugby) & flag (exclusively for test rugby).
I hope i am allowed to actually add these templates on this page. I just thought it would be more helpful to peoples understanding if i did so. Suid-Afrikaanse ( talk) 23:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Look, we can go on all day & around in circles about how ugly, coloured templates are, or whether they aid the article e.t.c but at the end of the day we are missing the crux of the issue: the Wikipedia team-sport template standard is coloured templates - not plain ones. I just don't see how some rugby editors can legitimately resist that standard. So before i carry on going around in circles on this talk page, i am going to see where i stand by discussing on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports. Suid-Afrikaanse ( talk) 02:03, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
They used to have colour during my era but then the old farts of Wikipedia Rugby decided they liked England and decided to change all the colour to England's alternate strip, PURPLE.....-- Stemoc ( talk) 11:48, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Category:Rugby biography stubs, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you.. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 11:18, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian ( talk) 02:53, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if the RU project really still exists these days - mostly seems to be invidual editors doing their own things, but in case anyone is still out there, I stumbled across this in an WP:RU talk archive - its a bot-generated list of recently created articles which might have some RU content. Looks like it updates itself every day. Is it worth keeping handy on here so other articles can be linked to new ones etc?-- Bcp67 ( talk) 19:48, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
They are trying to delete this again. Please add your support here Talk:2013 end of year rugby union tests Hamish59 ( talk) 22:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
A page on the Irish player Tom Reid at Articles for Creation could do with a bit of help providing references. It looks as if there's plenty out there, but I don't know anything about rugby myself :) Dsp13 ( talk) 13:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I am attempting to write an article on Aylestonians rfc without any success. Here is a link to what I have worked on already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Aylestonians_RUFC. Hopefully you will be able to help me get this published. Thank you in advance Aaron O'Rourke Aaron O'Rourke (Aaron1477) 16:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron1477 ( talk • contribs) ps, I try to sign but it keeps saying I am unsigned despite putting 4 tidels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron1477 ( talk • contribs) 17:00, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
The problem I am having is that this club has had notable players such as Harry Sibson who is credited with the introduction of the offside rule as well as competing at regional level until very recently. The article I have submitted has more references and infrmation that [Leicester lions] [aylestone athletic] and [syston] yet they all have pages and it is starting to feel like my page is being discriminated against. I know this is starting to sound like I am becoming emotional but my article has sound references and is about a club that has made history and is currently working with the RFU at grass roots level to continue the development of the grass roots game.Aaron O'Rourke (Aaron1477) 22:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron1477 ( talk • contribs)
Working on this article, I discovered that Kilburn, primarily a cricket journalist on the Yorkshire Post between 1934 and 1976, was also that newspaper's rugby correspondent. The sources are sadly lacking on his work in this role; does anyone have anything at all on him as a rugby writer? Any help gratefully received! Sarastro1 ( talk) 11:00, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
In a recent debate, Pee Jay have mentions that converstion times should not be aloud on articles. I personaly disagree as on Offical score sheets that commentators and broadcasters use who are perfessinal, convesrtion times are used. This is why I personaly think Converstion times should remain on articles like the 2013 Six Nations Championship. What does everyone else think?
I started re-assessing the Importance of Clubs against http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Rugby_union/Assessment#Importance_scale Almost all Premiership / Pro12 / Top14 Clubs are rated High which is not correct, IMO. My initial reading of the High Importance criteria
and the Mid Importance criteria
was Clubs that have won the Heinenken Cup should be High, other Premiership / Pro12 / Top14 Clubs should be Mid. Now I am not sure. Can anyone clarify, please. Hamish59 ( talk) 12:48, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Having had a bit of a think about this one, I am going to do the following:
I am going to keep clear of the Southern Hemisphere as this is beyond my ken. Hamish59 ( talk) 14:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
User:Rugby.change seems hell-bent on adding week-by-week standings to the most recent Six Nations articles, and using the countries' national colours to shade each cell of the table. Not only is this garish and probably in violation of WP:ACCESS, the table is pretty pointless. Because the Six Nations is so short, showing the standings after each round of games is unnecessary - early on, positions change like nobody's business, and later in the tournament, they hardly change at all. Plus, what difference does it make which team was in 3rd place in week 2? None whatsoever. The standings are also unsourced, though there is an argument that they have been synthesised based on simple mathematics; however, there is no evidence to suggest that the tie-breaking criteria for the Six Nations apply at any time other than the end of the tournament, so their application at earlier points may not be supported by evidence. An anonymous objector at Talk:2012 Six Nations Championship made the point that we could easily add game-by-game standings (i.e. 15 different tables) or even minute-by-minute if we had the inclination, so to add week-by-week seems a little arbitrary. Finally, if we have week-by-week tables, what do we do when a match is postponed to outside its original game week? Treating it as though it was played in that week would be inappropriate and inaccurate, while leaving it out until after it is played would defeat the point of having the table in the first place. Anyway, if you guys could express your opinions, positive or negative, about these week-by-week standings tables, I'd appreciate it. – Pee Jay 08:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
There is currently a straw poll running about this issue. Perhaps some users could have a look ? Talk:2012_Six_Nations_Championship#Use_of_Week_by_week_Standings. Thanks. Gnevin ( talk) 11:52, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a courtesy message to inform the members of this project that I have nominated Portal:Sports for featured portal status. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Sports. The featured portal criteria are at Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria. Please feel free to weigh in. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:38, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
This is a recently-created category, including both RU and RL individuals, which I've got a couple of questions on. First off - should we have separate "rugby union players..." etc, and "rugby league players..."etc, rather than just "rugby players...." etc? Secondly, is it a category for people awarded knighthoods for their rugby deeds, or for people who happened to play rugby and were awarded a knighthood? I've just added Wavell Wakefield, who is an example of the latter type (knighted for political service) but I'm not sure if he really fits the criteria. -- Bcp67 ( talk) 20:56, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
I've just received a question about the notability of Associação Académica de Coimbra (rugby union) which I created (I admit rather casually in the process of housekeeping, primarily to replace an embedded link to the fr.wp article for the rugby club in the main Associação Académica de Coimbra article). Would just like to confirm the rugby club meets notability for a standalone article. Cheers. In ictu oculi ( talk) 14:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Category:1883–84 in Irish rugby union and 104 other similar categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 12:40, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Category:1982–83 in Spanish rugby union and 24 other similar categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:21, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Category:1965–66 in Romanian rugby union and 45 other similar categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 19:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Category:Seasons in Argentine rugby union and its 57 sub-categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 09:03, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
FYI RM here Talk:New Zealand national rugby union sevens team Gnevin ( talk) 10:38, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated List of 1888–1889 New Zealand Native football team matches as a featured list candidate. Members of this project may be interested in the discussion, which can be viewed here. Any comments or questions would be welcomed. - Shudde talk 11:35, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Peer review request for Thomas Ellison
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- Shudde talk 07:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
There is now an WP:IRC channel for collaboration between editors in various sports WikiProjects. It's located at #wikipedia-en-sports connect. Thanks Secret account 03:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
There is an edit war at the Leinster Rugby article, seems it needs to be discussed as to whether the Aviva Stadium should be listed as a home stadium or not. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 19:30, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Now Leinster have often the 5 H Cup games in the aviva plus Ulster and Munster in the Pro 12. Playing nearly 50% of your home games... What they actually do is: play one HCup pool game at the Aviva and any home HCup knockout games they may get, plus the regular season League game at home to Munster. That is all. Certainly not Ulster / 5 H Cup / 50%. Note, they do not bother to go to the Aviva for any home playoff games in the Pro12 either (nor in the Amlin, come to that). In the three seasons since the Aviva opened:
In none of the three seasons have they gone anywhere near 50% home games at the Aviva. 4 / 17 = 23% is the best. Hamish59 ( talk) 12:51, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
I recently nominated Thomas Ellison as a Featured Article Candidate – the nomination can be viewed here. Ellison was a Māori rugby footballer who played in the late 19th century; he is probably best remembered for proposing that the New Zealand team adopt a black uniform. Sorry this is a bit late, I forgot to post a message to the project letting everyone know about the nomination. - Shudde talk 11:21, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
When adding myself to the list of participants I seem to have somehow created a formatting problem. I have tried to rectify it but without success. I am sorry - I'm not a very experienced editor and not very good with the technical aspects of editing. Hopefully somebody with more experience than me can rectify it without too much trouble. Thanks! Neljack ( talk) 00:35, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
NorthwickP has added "Starting XV 2012-13" sections to various Premiership rugby teams: Northampton Saints, Leicester Tigers, Harlequin F.C. and Saracen F.C.. I cannot see the relavence of these new sections. In fact, I do not understand what they are supposed to represent - team that started the first game of the season? Players who have played the most often in the given position? First choice players for a given postion? The citation(s) given simply point to squad lists (either on StatBunker or official website) and do not clarify anything.
So I reverted all of them, and left a note on NorthwickP's talk page. Now an IP has waded in and reverted me on all four articles: 90.39.134.125 I have reverted again with anote pointing at this talk page per WP:BRD.
My contention is that the additions are 1) uncited 2) meaningless 3) mere decoration.
I do not want to start an edit-war, or break WP:3RR so I would be grateful of any illumination anyone here can give me. Hamish59 ( talk) 13:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Far from being "very hard to maintain", they are very simple indeed. We have 119 Category:English football club seasons by club, and some of those have dozens of individual season articles. It's not hard at all. In fact, a quick glance around the rugby articles, there are already a couple of Saracens F.C. season articles and five Cornish Pirates season articles. The Rambling Man ( talk) 15:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)