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Despite the rename from Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Royalty → Wikipedia:WikiProject Royalty almost two years ago, the main page still styles itself as the "Royalty and Nobility Work Group" of WikiProject Biography. Would there be any objection to moving it back as a subpage of WikiProject Biography?
Either way, can this project/work group be renamed "Royalty and Nobility" to more accurately reflect its scope? PC78 ( talk) 10:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
It has come to my attention that all the articles for the Princes and Princesses of Bourbon-Two Sicilies were unilaterally redirected to articles where they are titled Princes and Princesses of the Two Sicilies without there being any discussion or consensus reached with other editors? How does one rectify the results of this unilateral decision? Can these moves be undone until a consensus is reached? -- Caponer ( talk) 15:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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Howdy folks. We need more imput at that Template's discussion. GoodDay ( talk) 00:47, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
The work of a new editor called Fernandoe is rubbing up Lecen, an experienced and scrupulous editor, in the wrong way. Fernandoe's most informative edit summary: The emperor Dom peter II have last names. He is son of Maria Leopoldina de Habsburgo-Lorena and Dom Pedro I de Bragança e Bourbon. Lecen believes that this is wrong, as are other, related edits by Fernandoe. I don't know, but perhaps you people here do know. -- Hoary ( talk) 00:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Following recent checks of some categories - it looks like that quite a few categories are in the scope of this project and not tagged - I am assuming that biography/royalty means more or less any royalty in whatever form - any clarification is appreciated Satu Suro 04:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Someone here will no doubt know the proper protocol so please see Talk:2010_Winter_Olympics_opening_ceremony#Nobility and note my objection to the use of flags at all in this section; but if flags are used, it doesn't seem appropriate at least in some cases to use national flags (as in the case of Princess Anne, who was attending as a private citizen and not in a royal-delegation capacity). Skookum1 ( talk) 14:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
The page, Butcher#Metaphorical_use has a link to the Butcher of Congo. But when clicking the link, it goes to Leopold_II. Looking on the page Leopold II of Belgium, there is no mention of "Butcher of Congo". But on the page, Leon Rom, it states it there. Also on page, List_of_nicknames_of_European_royalty_and_nobility:_L, there is has a external link pointing to Leopold II of Belgium as the Butcher of Congo. Thanks, 160.109.98.44 ( talk) 23:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi; I'd appreciate if the members of this project could give your opinion here. Thanks! -- Tonyjeff ( talk) 16:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
An RfC is currently open ( Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(clergy)#naming_convention_associated_with_Eastern_Orthodox_officials) regarding the appropriateness of having position titles in the article title of religious Eastern Orthodox officials. Commentary would be welcomed, as the WP:NCWC talk page has a low level of activity.-- Labattblueboy ( talk) 20:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Ammended: The proposal currently tables is to remove of all prefix religious titles, positions and/or honours from the article title.-- Labattblueboy ( talk) 20:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
David Carnegie, 14th Earl of Northesk, an excepted hereditary peer under the House of Lords Act 1999 has died. According to Earl of Northesk, the heir presumptive was Patrick Carnegy, a distant cousin through the 2nd Earl. I have added him to the list at the latter article as the 15 Earl, but there is no proof at this point. Aside from needing to verify the current holder, we need to consider beginning an article. So far, I have discovered that there is a Patrick Carnegie who is an expert on Richard Wagner, and lived with his "partner", the soprano Jill Gomez as of May 2007. [1] - Rrius ( talk) 20:48, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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Peter Gwynn-Jones retired as Garter Principal King of Arms and was succeeded by Thomas Woodcock (officer of arms) on 1 April. Woodcock had been Norroy and Ulster King of Arms, and was replaced in that role by Patric Laurence Dickinson on 6 April. Dickinson had been Richmond Herald. I have updated as much as I can. I am saying all this because I do not know all affected articles and because I don't know enough to understand whether Dickinson is still Richmond Herald or what has happened with that position. Perhaps Monday's Gazette will provide some insight. - Rrius ( talk) 03:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Reza Pahlavi is the heir to the Shah of Iran. Pahlavi has apparently begun editing both his own biography and that of his wife. Aside from general NPOV and BLP issues, I believe he is asserting that they are reigning monarchs, or perhaps he means that he is the reigning crown prince. The bios might need someone who is familiar with editing biographies of former imperial families. Will Beback talk 04:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I saw this edit, and there is nothing I can do because neither for the original information nor for the new information any sources are offered. Some obvious problems:
Since I have in the past observed similar problems with the poor sourcing and maintenance of such list articles in the scope of this project, and since this facilitates the work of hoaxters and fraudsters, I will also notify WP:BLP/N. Hans Adler 08:08, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Line of succession to the Georgian throne ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Is there anyone here with the ability and patience to sort out the madness that is going on at the talk page of this article? Hans Adler 09:29, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
The article HIH Prince Konstantin V Mustafaev has been tagged for speedy deletion. The person claims to be part of the House of Osman of the Ottoman Empire. I cannot immediately verify the claims. I would be grateful if you could take a look at the article and make any changes that seem appropriate. I have also posted this message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Turkey. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Those people do not claim to be Royalty - information which providing is translated from Turkish into Russian, Russian into English ( some of work still in work)
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As I understand it, the Earldom of Stair is in the peerage of Scotland, but its subsidiary title, the Barony of Oxenfoord, is in the peerage of the UK. It is further my understanding that until the Peerage Act 1963 came into effect, the latter title is the only one that would have given an automatic right to a seat in the House of Lords. After the 1963 Act took effect, though, it would seem to me that the Earldom would have granted the right as well. Thus, the current Earl of Stair, who sits as an excepted hereditary peer, should be able to sit by virtue of the Earldom of Stair. However, his UK peerage is included after his name in parenthesis as is done with Irish peers who are excepted peers sitting by virtue of a UK peerage. Can someone help me figure out what is going on? - Rrius ( talk) 01:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
At Talk:Catherine Ashton#Requested move 2, there is discussion potentially of interest to members of this WikiProject. - Rrius ( talk) 02:06, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone heard of the House of Lichtenberg? The creator and editor cites the webpage he maintains as a source, which happens to be the sole source. 08:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.24.117.126 ( talk)
Input is needed at that article, concerning a rumor about the King. GoodDay ( talk) 14:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
As I'm doing genealogical reseach on royal houses in Europe, it came under my attention the fact that many pictures of royals aren't displayed in the English wiki, but looking at other languages, there are one or more pictures portraying that person... Some examples?
I tried to put those pictures in Commons so as to be able to put them in the English article, but wasn't able to, since they are usual in incomprehensible languages (for me of course), plus I know nothing on copyright and the such.
Couldn't it be created a section where to post those pictures so that people who are more competent than me could add them into Commons? Then I would add them myself in the corresponding English articles. Do you think it could be possible? Daphoenyx ( talk) 10:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Why does a little shield with a Swedish flag symbol appear in the template of this group on many talk pages of royalty who are not Swedish (such as Albert II of Monaco)? SergeWoodzing ( talk) 14:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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I recently removed the unreferenced BLP tag from the above article, and relaced with a simple unref tag, as in my opinion the BLP is the article Felipe, Prince of Asturias. Would appreciate other opinions as to whether Ancestry of Felipe, Prince of Asturias ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) should be classed as User:Mr.Z-bot and User:Joshua Scott obviously have other opinions having re-added the BLP unref tag. –– Jezhotwells ( talk) 22:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
There is a dispute at Talk:List of Serbian monarchs about how this list should be arranged (like other lists of European monarchs or differently). I'd appreciate your comments. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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I have reconstructed the following lists:
The new lists are quite a bit more substantial in terms of content and information. Any feedback or suggestions for further improvement would be greatly appreciated. Nightw 05:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, dropping by to invite help to fill some gaps in User:Tamfang/Stuart. In particular, I'd like links or details for the heir-general of each child of Louis Otto, Prince of Salm. — Tamfang ( talk) 21:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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Please see Talk:Mary, Crown Princess of Denmark#Ancestry. I do not think that we should have ancestry charts if the person's ancestors were not notable because Wikipedia is not a geneaology database. All information should be there for a purpose; I doubt anyone would come to Wikipedia looking for the name of Mary's father's mother's mother's father and say: "Oh! It's Betty Smith! Now I know something useful." But, there are users who disagree, saying that the ancestry section is of "historical interest for all royals regardless of the notability, or otherwise, of the ancestors". What do you think? Surtsicna ( talk) 10:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
If the subject was a queen consort or an empress consort, I can tolerate them. But users tend to add trivial succession boxes for titles such as "Countess consort of X", "Duchess consort of Y", etc. I think these serve no purpose at all because the "office" of countess/duchess is almost never significant enough. They also make those insignificant titles held by marriage look as important as those held by the subject in her own right. Therefore, I propose removing them. Surtsicna ( talk) 14:51, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi! Need some expert help here (I know virtually nothing about royalty and nobility titles and styles). An editor on new changes patrol spotted something, and raised it with me. It looks odd to me, but as I say I know nothing. Executive summary: CSCarlosXXVIII ( talk · contribs) has been making a lot of changes to the styles used by royals and nobles, and has done a fair bit of page-moving as well. I don't know whether this is appropriate or not: I looked at a few (e.g. changing Prince Andrew, Duke of York's infobox name from "Prince Andrew" to " The Prince Andrew") and reverted; beyond that I'm well outside my comfort zone (I'm not even convinced I was necessarily correct with Prince Andrew...) Help! TFOWR 15:14, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Prince Frederick Charles of Hesse was King of Finland but no one ever changed the name beacuse the name says Prince. If anyone could take a look. Spongie555 ( talk) 03:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
FYI, Hirohito has again been nominated for renaming, see Talk:Hirohito. 76.66.203.138 ( talk) 13:26, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
I have submitted List of current sovereign monarchs for peer review. The review discussion is located here. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nightw 10:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
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I've nominated List of current sovereign monarchs for featured list. Please contribute to the nomination discussion. Regards, Nightw 16:15, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
It appears that all those bio articles have Emperor <name> & Empress <name> as their title, except for those of Hirohito & Akihito. Why is this? GoodDay ( talk) 03:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
User:Stephen2nd/Royal Labels of the United Kingdom is about ready to move into article space. — Tamfang ( talk) 06:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
The article about Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies, a 19th century Italian princess and wife of Pedro II, the second Brazilian emperor is now a Featured article nominee. Comments, criticisms, supports or opposes are welcome. See: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies/archive1. -- Lecen ( talk) 16:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
There is currently an RfC pertaining to British Royalty open here. NickCT ( talk) 15:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Also posted on Talk:Prince Paul of Württemberg
Need clarification on 1852 as the date of death, although I have seen that date elsewhere on the internet. Please see Journals of Prince Paul of Wuternburg, where it mentions a couple of paragraphs from the end the dates of his visits to the United States. The fourth trip was 1849-1856 and the last trip was 1857-1858. Also, please reference Carl Iwonski where it mentions in the second paragraph that the prince made a visit to New Braunfels, Texas in 1855. Perhaps there needs to be a correction on the date of death??? Maile66 ( talk) 16:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
The article Michael of Zahumlje has attained good article status. Regards, Kebeta ( talk) 22:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
I see there's Rfc, GA, FA, AfD notifications. But there's no RM notifications. GoodDay ( talk) 12:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
On a more constructive note, I don't think this project is subscribed to WP:Article_alerts? If you were to do that, you could transclude the notifications into the top of the Project page and/or watchlist the transcluded page and get notified of all that kind of stuff automagically. It would also mean that this page doesn't get cluttered with notifications. I've not looked closely, I'd guess you'd probably have to do a cat-based subscription since this is more of a taskforce of WPBIO than a true project. Le Deluge ( talk) 15:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
What's best to use in female monarch articles? queen regnant or reigning queen? GoodDay ( talk) 17:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
There are two issues here: one is that GoodDay is inserting the term "queen regnant" into articles where the term is inappropriate on grounds of policy. For example, it is not wikipedia's job to decide between alternative interpretations of history. If historians say Margaret I of Denmark is not a queen regnant, then GoodDay is pushing his personal POV by insisting on using the term in the article [4]. The article should present a balanced view that takes account of all opinions. It is not accepted that
Margaret was queen in her own right. GoodDay has deliberately excluded the interpretation that she was a queen because she married a king, and that she was a ruler not because she was queen in her own right but because she was a regent acting for her son Olav first and then (after he died) for her great-nephew Eric. The argument that she was a queen consort acting as a regent and not a queen regnant is being ignored.
Secondly, there is the issue of prose. I see no point on insisting on the obscure when the commonplace will suffice. DrKiernan ( talk) 17:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
DrKiernan seems to be focusing on this as though it were merely a matter of good prose; don't unnecessarily repeat "queen" twice in one sentence. That's good advice. However, it doesn't address the actual question here: If there isn't another use of the word "queen" in the opening sentence of an article on a reigning female monarch (such as at Beatrix of the Netherlands and Elizabeth II) or formerly reigning female monarch (such as at Salote Tupou III of Tonga and Liliuokalani), do we use the term "queen regnant" or "reigning queen" to describe that individual? The only argument I've heard against the former is that it isn't a commonly used descriptor and thus won't be recognised by readers. I'm not convinced by that reasoning. If someone comprehends "reigning", they'll likely understand "regnant". -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 22:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
There's a dispute over who's Australia's Head of state: The Queen of Australia or the Governor General. We need more input. GoodDay ( talk) 00:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I have started a move request for several Saudi and Jordanian monarchs without regnal numerals. The move would shift these articles from the "[Name] of [Country]" formulation to "[Name], King of [Country]" (like the recently moved John, King of England and so on). If you have any view on the matter, the centralised discussion is located here. Thanks, The Celestial City ( talk) 20:27, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Princess Maria Amélia of Brazil's FAC nomination os now open. The link is here. -- Lecen ( talk) 19:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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Despite the rename from Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Royalty → Wikipedia:WikiProject Royalty almost two years ago, the main page still styles itself as the "Royalty and Nobility Work Group" of WikiProject Biography. Would there be any objection to moving it back as a subpage of WikiProject Biography?
Either way, can this project/work group be renamed "Royalty and Nobility" to more accurately reflect its scope? PC78 ( talk) 10:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
It has come to my attention that all the articles for the Princes and Princesses of Bourbon-Two Sicilies were unilaterally redirected to articles where they are titled Princes and Princesses of the Two Sicilies without there being any discussion or consensus reached with other editors? How does one rectify the results of this unilateral decision? Can these moves be undone until a consensus is reached? -- Caponer ( talk) 15:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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Howdy folks. We need more imput at that Template's discussion. GoodDay ( talk) 00:47, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
The work of a new editor called Fernandoe is rubbing up Lecen, an experienced and scrupulous editor, in the wrong way. Fernandoe's most informative edit summary: The emperor Dom peter II have last names. He is son of Maria Leopoldina de Habsburgo-Lorena and Dom Pedro I de Bragança e Bourbon. Lecen believes that this is wrong, as are other, related edits by Fernandoe. I don't know, but perhaps you people here do know. -- Hoary ( talk) 00:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Following recent checks of some categories - it looks like that quite a few categories are in the scope of this project and not tagged - I am assuming that biography/royalty means more or less any royalty in whatever form - any clarification is appreciated Satu Suro 04:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Someone here will no doubt know the proper protocol so please see Talk:2010_Winter_Olympics_opening_ceremony#Nobility and note my objection to the use of flags at all in this section; but if flags are used, it doesn't seem appropriate at least in some cases to use national flags (as in the case of Princess Anne, who was attending as a private citizen and not in a royal-delegation capacity). Skookum1 ( talk) 14:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
The page, Butcher#Metaphorical_use has a link to the Butcher of Congo. But when clicking the link, it goes to Leopold_II. Looking on the page Leopold II of Belgium, there is no mention of "Butcher of Congo". But on the page, Leon Rom, it states it there. Also on page, List_of_nicknames_of_European_royalty_and_nobility:_L, there is has a external link pointing to Leopold II of Belgium as the Butcher of Congo. Thanks, 160.109.98.44 ( talk) 23:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi; I'd appreciate if the members of this project could give your opinion here. Thanks! -- Tonyjeff ( talk) 16:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
An RfC is currently open ( Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(clergy)#naming_convention_associated_with_Eastern_Orthodox_officials) regarding the appropriateness of having position titles in the article title of religious Eastern Orthodox officials. Commentary would be welcomed, as the WP:NCWC talk page has a low level of activity.-- Labattblueboy ( talk) 20:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Ammended: The proposal currently tables is to remove of all prefix religious titles, positions and/or honours from the article title.-- Labattblueboy ( talk) 20:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
David Carnegie, 14th Earl of Northesk, an excepted hereditary peer under the House of Lords Act 1999 has died. According to Earl of Northesk, the heir presumptive was Patrick Carnegy, a distant cousin through the 2nd Earl. I have added him to the list at the latter article as the 15 Earl, but there is no proof at this point. Aside from needing to verify the current holder, we need to consider beginning an article. So far, I have discovered that there is a Patrick Carnegie who is an expert on Richard Wagner, and lived with his "partner", the soprano Jill Gomez as of May 2007. [1] - Rrius ( talk) 20:48, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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Peter Gwynn-Jones retired as Garter Principal King of Arms and was succeeded by Thomas Woodcock (officer of arms) on 1 April. Woodcock had been Norroy and Ulster King of Arms, and was replaced in that role by Patric Laurence Dickinson on 6 April. Dickinson had been Richmond Herald. I have updated as much as I can. I am saying all this because I do not know all affected articles and because I don't know enough to understand whether Dickinson is still Richmond Herald or what has happened with that position. Perhaps Monday's Gazette will provide some insight. - Rrius ( talk) 03:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Reza Pahlavi is the heir to the Shah of Iran. Pahlavi has apparently begun editing both his own biography and that of his wife. Aside from general NPOV and BLP issues, I believe he is asserting that they are reigning monarchs, or perhaps he means that he is the reigning crown prince. The bios might need someone who is familiar with editing biographies of former imperial families. Will Beback talk 04:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I saw this edit, and there is nothing I can do because neither for the original information nor for the new information any sources are offered. Some obvious problems:
Since I have in the past observed similar problems with the poor sourcing and maintenance of such list articles in the scope of this project, and since this facilitates the work of hoaxters and fraudsters, I will also notify WP:BLP/N. Hans Adler 08:08, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Line of succession to the Georgian throne ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Is there anyone here with the ability and patience to sort out the madness that is going on at the talk page of this article? Hans Adler 09:29, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
The article HIH Prince Konstantin V Mustafaev has been tagged for speedy deletion. The person claims to be part of the House of Osman of the Ottoman Empire. I cannot immediately verify the claims. I would be grateful if you could take a look at the article and make any changes that seem appropriate. I have also posted this message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Turkey. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Those people do not claim to be Royalty - information which providing is translated from Turkish into Russian, Russian into English ( some of work still in work)
(Arch-TRHO 15:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC))—Preceding unsigned comment added by The Royal House of Osman ( talk • contribs) — The Royal House of Osman ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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What can we do about this article? Is there anyone neutral and qualified willing to deal with this? Or can we just delete this article as an unmaintainable POV-pushing forum? Hans Adler 10:48, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
As I understand it, the Earldom of Stair is in the peerage of Scotland, but its subsidiary title, the Barony of Oxenfoord, is in the peerage of the UK. It is further my understanding that until the Peerage Act 1963 came into effect, the latter title is the only one that would have given an automatic right to a seat in the House of Lords. After the 1963 Act took effect, though, it would seem to me that the Earldom would have granted the right as well. Thus, the current Earl of Stair, who sits as an excepted hereditary peer, should be able to sit by virtue of the Earldom of Stair. However, his UK peerage is included after his name in parenthesis as is done with Irish peers who are excepted peers sitting by virtue of a UK peerage. Can someone help me figure out what is going on? - Rrius ( talk) 01:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
At Talk:Catherine Ashton#Requested move 2, there is discussion potentially of interest to members of this WikiProject. - Rrius ( talk) 02:06, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone heard of the House of Lichtenberg? The creator and editor cites the webpage he maintains as a source, which happens to be the sole source. 08:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.24.117.126 ( talk)
Input is needed at that article, concerning a rumor about the King. GoodDay ( talk) 14:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
As I'm doing genealogical reseach on royal houses in Europe, it came under my attention the fact that many pictures of royals aren't displayed in the English wiki, but looking at other languages, there are one or more pictures portraying that person... Some examples?
I tried to put those pictures in Commons so as to be able to put them in the English article, but wasn't able to, since they are usual in incomprehensible languages (for me of course), plus I know nothing on copyright and the such.
Couldn't it be created a section where to post those pictures so that people who are more competent than me could add them into Commons? Then I would add them myself in the corresponding English articles. Do you think it could be possible? Daphoenyx ( talk) 10:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Why does a little shield with a Swedish flag symbol appear in the template of this group on many talk pages of royalty who are not Swedish (such as Albert II of Monaco)? SergeWoodzing ( talk) 14:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
The article Baasha ben Ruhubi has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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I recently removed the unreferenced BLP tag from the above article, and relaced with a simple unref tag, as in my opinion the BLP is the article Felipe, Prince of Asturias. Would appreciate other opinions as to whether Ancestry of Felipe, Prince of Asturias ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) should be classed as User:Mr.Z-bot and User:Joshua Scott obviously have other opinions having re-added the BLP unref tag. –– Jezhotwells ( talk) 22:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
There is a dispute at Talk:List of Serbian monarchs about how this list should be arranged (like other lists of European monarchs or differently). I'd appreciate your comments. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
The template to open ahnentafels (ancestry tables) ( Template:ahnentafel top) was changed last May to open all such tables on first viewing with an option to "Hide". The previous situation had been the reverse (a title bar with a link to "Show").
(1) Editors can now change the first appearance of an ahnentafel by adding "|collapsed=yes" to "ahnentafel top" (see Template:Ahnentafel top/doc.)
(2) I'm now taking a survey to see how many editors (or the editors of how many articles) would prefer to keep this situation, and how many would prefer to change the default so that editors who wanted to display an ahnentafel on first sight would have to add "collapsed=no".
Since over 2,500 articles (some of which would clearly benefit from one option and some from the other) use this template, a large sample of preferences would be very helpful in discussing which default to use.
Please indicate your preferences at Template talk:Ahnentafel top/Requested Comments 1. And let other editors know about this poll. Thanks. —— Shakescene ( talk) 08:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
I have reconstructed the following lists:
The new lists are quite a bit more substantial in terms of content and information. Any feedback or suggestions for further improvement would be greatly appreciated. Nightw 05:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Throughout 2010, many Wikipedia editors have worked hard to halve the number of unreferenced biographical articles (UBLPs) from more than 52,000 in January to under 26,000 now. The WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons has assisted in many ways, including helping to setup a bot, which runs daily, compiling lists of all articles that are in both Category:All unreferenced BLPs and have been tagged by a WikiProject. Note that the bot does NOT place unreferenced tags or assign articles to projects - this has been done by others previously - it just compiles a list.
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Hi, dropping by to invite help to fill some gaps in User:Tamfang/Stuart. In particular, I'd like links or details for the heir-general of each child of Louis Otto, Prince of Salm. — Tamfang ( talk) 21:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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The article Franco (King) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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Please see Talk:Mary, Crown Princess of Denmark#Ancestry. I do not think that we should have ancestry charts if the person's ancestors were not notable because Wikipedia is not a geneaology database. All information should be there for a purpose; I doubt anyone would come to Wikipedia looking for the name of Mary's father's mother's mother's father and say: "Oh! It's Betty Smith! Now I know something useful." But, there are users who disagree, saying that the ancestry section is of "historical interest for all royals regardless of the notability, or otherwise, of the ancestors". What do you think? Surtsicna ( talk) 10:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
If the subject was a queen consort or an empress consort, I can tolerate them. But users tend to add trivial succession boxes for titles such as "Countess consort of X", "Duchess consort of Y", etc. I think these serve no purpose at all because the "office" of countess/duchess is almost never significant enough. They also make those insignificant titles held by marriage look as important as those held by the subject in her own right. Therefore, I propose removing them. Surtsicna ( talk) 14:51, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi! Need some expert help here (I know virtually nothing about royalty and nobility titles and styles). An editor on new changes patrol spotted something, and raised it with me. It looks odd to me, but as I say I know nothing. Executive summary: CSCarlosXXVIII ( talk · contribs) has been making a lot of changes to the styles used by royals and nobles, and has done a fair bit of page-moving as well. I don't know whether this is appropriate or not: I looked at a few (e.g. changing Prince Andrew, Duke of York's infobox name from "Prince Andrew" to " The Prince Andrew") and reverted; beyond that I'm well outside my comfort zone (I'm not even convinced I was necessarily correct with Prince Andrew...) Help! TFOWR 15:14, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Prince Frederick Charles of Hesse was King of Finland but no one ever changed the name beacuse the name says Prince. If anyone could take a look. Spongie555 ( talk) 03:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
FYI, Hirohito has again been nominated for renaming, see Talk:Hirohito. 76.66.203.138 ( talk) 13:26, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
I have submitted List of current sovereign monarchs for peer review. The review discussion is located here. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nightw 10:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
The article Vasudeva of Kabul has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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I've nominated List of current sovereign monarchs for featured list. Please contribute to the nomination discussion. Regards, Nightw 16:15, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
It appears that all those bio articles have Emperor <name> & Empress <name> as their title, except for those of Hirohito & Akihito. Why is this? GoodDay ( talk) 03:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
User:Stephen2nd/Royal Labels of the United Kingdom is about ready to move into article space. — Tamfang ( talk) 06:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
The article about Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies, a 19th century Italian princess and wife of Pedro II, the second Brazilian emperor is now a Featured article nominee. Comments, criticisms, supports or opposes are welcome. See: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies/archive1. -- Lecen ( talk) 16:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
There is currently an RfC pertaining to British Royalty open here. NickCT ( talk) 15:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Also posted on Talk:Prince Paul of Württemberg
Need clarification on 1852 as the date of death, although I have seen that date elsewhere on the internet. Please see Journals of Prince Paul of Wuternburg, where it mentions a couple of paragraphs from the end the dates of his visits to the United States. The fourth trip was 1849-1856 and the last trip was 1857-1858. Also, please reference Carl Iwonski where it mentions in the second paragraph that the prince made a visit to New Braunfels, Texas in 1855. Perhaps there needs to be a correction on the date of death??? Maile66 ( talk) 16:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
The article Michael of Zahumlje has attained good article status. Regards, Kebeta ( talk) 22:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
I see there's Rfc, GA, FA, AfD notifications. But there's no RM notifications. GoodDay ( talk) 12:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
On a more constructive note, I don't think this project is subscribed to WP:Article_alerts? If you were to do that, you could transclude the notifications into the top of the Project page and/or watchlist the transcluded page and get notified of all that kind of stuff automagically. It would also mean that this page doesn't get cluttered with notifications. I've not looked closely, I'd guess you'd probably have to do a cat-based subscription since this is more of a taskforce of WPBIO than a true project. Le Deluge ( talk) 15:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
What's best to use in female monarch articles? queen regnant or reigning queen? GoodDay ( talk) 17:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
There are two issues here: one is that GoodDay is inserting the term "queen regnant" into articles where the term is inappropriate on grounds of policy. For example, it is not wikipedia's job to decide between alternative interpretations of history. If historians say Margaret I of Denmark is not a queen regnant, then GoodDay is pushing his personal POV by insisting on using the term in the article [4]. The article should present a balanced view that takes account of all opinions. It is not accepted that
Margaret was queen in her own right. GoodDay has deliberately excluded the interpretation that she was a queen because she married a king, and that she was a ruler not because she was queen in her own right but because she was a regent acting for her son Olav first and then (after he died) for her great-nephew Eric. The argument that she was a queen consort acting as a regent and not a queen regnant is being ignored.
Secondly, there is the issue of prose. I see no point on insisting on the obscure when the commonplace will suffice. DrKiernan ( talk) 17:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
DrKiernan seems to be focusing on this as though it were merely a matter of good prose; don't unnecessarily repeat "queen" twice in one sentence. That's good advice. However, it doesn't address the actual question here: If there isn't another use of the word "queen" in the opening sentence of an article on a reigning female monarch (such as at Beatrix of the Netherlands and Elizabeth II) or formerly reigning female monarch (such as at Salote Tupou III of Tonga and Liliuokalani), do we use the term "queen regnant" or "reigning queen" to describe that individual? The only argument I've heard against the former is that it isn't a commonly used descriptor and thus won't be recognised by readers. I'm not convinced by that reasoning. If someone comprehends "reigning", they'll likely understand "regnant". -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 22:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
There's a dispute over who's Australia's Head of state: The Queen of Australia or the Governor General. We need more input. GoodDay ( talk) 00:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I have started a move request for several Saudi and Jordanian monarchs without regnal numerals. The move would shift these articles from the "[Name] of [Country]" formulation to "[Name], King of [Country]" (like the recently moved John, King of England and so on). If you have any view on the matter, the centralised discussion is located here. Thanks, The Celestial City ( talk) 20:27, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Princess Maria Amélia of Brazil's FAC nomination os now open. The link is here. -- Lecen ( talk) 19:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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