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Following the recent hoohah about the GA sweep review of the Dido and Aeneas artyicle, I decided to check what else might be coming up. I have noticed that Parsifal is one of the just over 200 articles remaining at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Good_articles/Project_quality_task_force/Sweeps_worklist. Although progress on sweeps is ratehr erratic, I think that the whole process will be completed this half-year, therefore we have to expect Parsifal to come up any time now and it is as well that we think of what may come up as an issue and try to deal with it pre-emptively.-- Peter cohen ( talk)
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Bayreuth canon is one of the current WP:Featured list candidates. WP:Wagner members are welcome to comment.-- Peter cohen ( talk) 11:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
This category was put inappropriately in the visual artists category Category: Works by artist by Good Ol’factory and I removed it. It was again placed by this user, (see [ [1]].
I understand that this user wants Wagner in the cat, because Category: Works by Prince (musician) and Category:Works by Madonna (entertainer) are there (presumably because of films and videos being considered as visual artworks). (No serious composers are in this cat.) I don't edit war so I am taking no further action now. -- Klein zach 07:55, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Glad to see the underlying issues surrounding this problem were worked out at WPr Arts. Since I was involved in the dispute it would have been nice to have been notified so I could have participated, but at least we have something now that's better than what existed before. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:24, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the referencing which you can see at Talk:Parsifal/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells ( talk) 22:09, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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Ihave added the above article.-- Smerus ( talk) 18:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I've nominated our core article for good article status. This is just one step towards User:Smerus's masterplan of getting it to featured article status. The two of us are building on other users' work, notably User:Dogbertd and User:Antandrus- or at least I am, Smerus is now the article's biggest contributor. When we go for FA, I'm intending to make it a joint nomination. If anyone there is a project member who has somehow managed not to contribute significantly to this article and feels able to carry out the GA review, then please do so. Once we've got through that hurdle, then people are welcome to contribute by making sugbgestions at Peer Review and then FA or you can contribute to the donkey work whould it prove that there is a lot to do.-- Peter cohen ( talk) 09:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason why this, alone of W's operas, is listed under its English title for the main article? If it's on the grounds of common use, we don't have 'The Mastersingers','Tristan and Isolde' or 'The Ring Cycle'. So for consistency we should move it to 'Der fliegende Holländer' - shouldn't we? -- Smerus ( talk) 14:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I have posted at Opera Project page as suggested.-- Smerus ( talk) 10:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I came across this article today on new page patrol. I had tagged it as no context when I first saw it. The primary editor said something about he was being accused of ip conflicts at ANI (not sure of the context or why he mentioned it to me) and I didn't really want to open a can of worms by pushing the issue. I'm bringing this to your project because the article seems like it should be a footnote in a section about Wagner's personal life, not a stand-alone text. I think it's a very poor entry and would like you to take a look at it and make a more educated assessment. I'd support either a trim and merge or deletion if the article if the article proves to be in as bad shape as my instincts tell me. Thank you for taking a look, and if I'm way off base, I apologize for my lack of insight on the subject matter. -- Torchwood Who? ( talk) 09:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
The article is now GA-class - now for peer review? -- Smerus ( talk) 11:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Now I see there are quite a few problems with Gesamtkunstwerk - not least of which is that the word is spelt with a lower-case initial throughout the article! I think we should also seek citations for the translations given.....-- Smerus ( talk) 09:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
I have tried to clean up Gesamtkunstwerk. In the process I note that Grove and the Oxford Companion translate as 'total work of art' so I have subsituted that translation in Richard Wagner.-- Smerus ( talk) 16:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
It would be great if someone could create an article on Wagner scholar Alfred Lorenz (1869-1939). 4meter4 ( talk) 23:12, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
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I wd support downgrading the Ring operas to C at most. Is it worth putting up Wagner controversies as a candidate? Cosima ought to be there too - Dogbert's recent work surely justifies upgrading the article - -- Smerus ( talk) 19:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Now that three key members of the Wagner cabal have rubbished the articles on the Ring operas, I've downgraded them to Start. As far as the Mastersingers is concerned, I've looked and several issues from the assessment three years ago have been addressed. If the current version had been assessed, it would now have been a B. There is no clear statement I can see on how we or WPO differentiate C class from those on either side. I have decided therefore to ignore that category. I'm happy with the Mastersingers article being included in the release and unhappy with the Ring opera ones being included and that reflects the general opinion here. I'm off to change the comments at the build page.
Has someone checked the Valkyrie synopsis against the source? I'm not sure whether the source mentioned is a translation of the full text that is used as a source or one fo a synopsis that is plagiarised.-- Peter cohen ( talk) 19:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
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Following the recent hoohah about the GA sweep review of the Dido and Aeneas artyicle, I decided to check what else might be coming up. I have noticed that Parsifal is one of the just over 200 articles remaining at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Good_articles/Project_quality_task_force/Sweeps_worklist. Although progress on sweeps is ratehr erratic, I think that the whole process will be completed this half-year, therefore we have to expect Parsifal to come up any time now and it is as well that we think of what may come up as an issue and try to deal with it pre-emptively.-- Peter cohen ( talk)
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Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people
Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, many wikiproject topics will be effected.
The two opposing positions which have the most support is:
Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.
Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced BLP articles if they are not sourced, so your project may want to source these articles as soon as possible. See the next, message, which may help.
If you don't already have this and are interested in creating a list of articles which need cleanup for your wikiproject see: Cleanup listings A list of examples is here
If you are interested in moving unreferenced blp articles that your project covers, to a special "incubation page", contact me, User talk:Ikip
If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me, User talk:Ikip
Ikip 05:06, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Bayreuth canon is one of the current WP:Featured list candidates. WP:Wagner members are welcome to comment.-- Peter cohen ( talk) 11:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
This category was put inappropriately in the visual artists category Category: Works by artist by Good Ol’factory and I removed it. It was again placed by this user, (see [ [1]].
I understand that this user wants Wagner in the cat, because Category: Works by Prince (musician) and Category:Works by Madonna (entertainer) are there (presumably because of films and videos being considered as visual artworks). (No serious composers are in this cat.) I don't edit war so I am taking no further action now. -- Klein zach 07:55, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Glad to see the underlying issues surrounding this problem were worked out at WPr Arts. Since I was involved in the dispute it would have been nice to have been notified so I could have participated, but at least we have something now that's better than what existed before. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:24, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the referencing which you can see at Talk:Parsifal/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells ( talk) 22:09, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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Ihave added the above article.-- Smerus ( talk) 18:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I've nominated our core article for good article status. This is just one step towards User:Smerus's masterplan of getting it to featured article status. The two of us are building on other users' work, notably User:Dogbertd and User:Antandrus- or at least I am, Smerus is now the article's biggest contributor. When we go for FA, I'm intending to make it a joint nomination. If anyone there is a project member who has somehow managed not to contribute significantly to this article and feels able to carry out the GA review, then please do so. Once we've got through that hurdle, then people are welcome to contribute by making sugbgestions at Peer Review and then FA or you can contribute to the donkey work whould it prove that there is a lot to do.-- Peter cohen ( talk) 09:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason why this, alone of W's operas, is listed under its English title for the main article? If it's on the grounds of common use, we don't have 'The Mastersingers','Tristan and Isolde' or 'The Ring Cycle'. So for consistency we should move it to 'Der fliegende Holländer' - shouldn't we? -- Smerus ( talk) 14:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I have posted at Opera Project page as suggested.-- Smerus ( talk) 10:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I came across this article today on new page patrol. I had tagged it as no context when I first saw it. The primary editor said something about he was being accused of ip conflicts at ANI (not sure of the context or why he mentioned it to me) and I didn't really want to open a can of worms by pushing the issue. I'm bringing this to your project because the article seems like it should be a footnote in a section about Wagner's personal life, not a stand-alone text. I think it's a very poor entry and would like you to take a look at it and make a more educated assessment. I'd support either a trim and merge or deletion if the article if the article proves to be in as bad shape as my instincts tell me. Thank you for taking a look, and if I'm way off base, I apologize for my lack of insight on the subject matter. -- Torchwood Who? ( talk) 09:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
The article is now GA-class - now for peer review? -- Smerus ( talk) 11:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Now I see there are quite a few problems with Gesamtkunstwerk - not least of which is that the word is spelt with a lower-case initial throughout the article! I think we should also seek citations for the translations given.....-- Smerus ( talk) 09:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
I have tried to clean up Gesamtkunstwerk. In the process I note that Grove and the Oxford Companion translate as 'total work of art' so I have subsituted that translation in Richard Wagner.-- Smerus ( talk) 16:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
It would be great if someone could create an article on Wagner scholar Alfred Lorenz (1869-1939). 4meter4 ( talk) 23:12, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.
We would like to ask you to review the Richard Wagner articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.
We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!
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I wd support downgrading the Ring operas to C at most. Is it worth putting up Wagner controversies as a candidate? Cosima ought to be there too - Dogbert's recent work surely justifies upgrading the article - -- Smerus ( talk) 19:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Now that three key members of the Wagner cabal have rubbished the articles on the Ring operas, I've downgraded them to Start. As far as the Mastersingers is concerned, I've looked and several issues from the assessment three years ago have been addressed. If the current version had been assessed, it would now have been a B. There is no clear statement I can see on how we or WPO differentiate C class from those on either side. I have decided therefore to ignore that category. I'm happy with the Mastersingers article being included in the release and unhappy with the Ring opera ones being included and that reflects the general opinion here. I'm off to change the comments at the build page.
Has someone checked the Valkyrie synopsis against the source? I'm not sure whether the source mentioned is a translation of the full text that is used as a source or one fo a synopsis that is plagiarised.-- Peter cohen ( talk) 19:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)