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I'm curious about this one... Stone Cold Steve Austin's article was rated as B-class until Frederick day changed it to stub class. He was upset about the lack of sources, but I think it's still better than a stub. And, although he claims not to be biased, he only lowered the class for the WikiProject Wrestling rating. The WikiProject Texas rating is still a B. GaryColemanFan 00:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey everyone. I was just cleaning up the Ladder match article, and I discovered a major problem. A user merged the Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match into the article, without following the proper steps to merge. I left a note on his talk page telling him to propose a merger first, let people either support or oppose, etc etc. While I would have supported the merger, the problem here is that he violated the GFDL by not indicating in his edit summaries where he was merging content to and where the merged content was coming from. While I'm not to familiar with GFDL, I do know that he violated it (it says so on WP:Merge). Now what? Is there a way to remedy this? Nikki311 01:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Someone tried to add a table to the bottom of this article listing the champions by the length of their title reigns. I fixed the formatting because it looked bad, but I'm not sure if this is the right place for it. Does it belong in the article? GaryColemanFan 03:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I was scurrying through a load of wrestling-related pages, and came to this page. Do we really need this page, surely it isn't a load of cruft. I also think that SNME results aren't as notable as PPV results. Should I AFD it? Davnel03 14:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
SNME is no more or less important than a PPV (or than a weekly show like RAW, SmackDown! or ECW for that matter). The same things happen at all three types of events (PPVS, SNME, weekly shows) - title changes, storyline progressions, specialty matches, normal matches, pyro, guest appearances etc. I just really don't see how its different. -- Naha| (talk) 20:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I see only one person opposing the AfD nomination, so I'll just go ahead and AfD the damn thing. Cheers, The Hyb rid 00:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Users Maestro25 and TJ Spyke seem to be having a disagreement via edit summaries on the WWE No Mercy article regarding whether F4W matches are spelled Fatal Four-Way or Fatal Four Way (with or without the dash). TJ seems to think this matter was previously settled/discussed (if so, its not something I've seen, but then again with so many articles its hard to keep an eye on every page where a discussion might be taking place), and argues in favor of the dash. Maestro doesn't think anything has been setteled and argues against the dash.
Gentlemen, I ask you both to please state your reasons for your opinions on the matter. I also ask other people to chime in in regards to whether or not this has been previously discussed (and if so what was the outcome?), and also, on your opinions of how it should be properly spelled. I personally have no strong feelings one way or the other on this one - just that whatever is decided be used uniformly across all PW articles. I just don't like to see arguments among our members. Discuss away! Thanks, -- Naha| (talk) 21:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
The whole thing is already under WP:LAME. It is not a British vs US spelling thing as the WWE is a US company and so it is just pedantry, if the article was created with the dash then leave it in, if it was created with-out the dash then leave it out. Darrenhusted 15:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on three articles lately, and I've done about all I can do from my end. If anyone can help out, I'd really appreciate it.
If anyone knows of a reason that SummerSlam 1993 or the List of WCW Champions shouldn't be nominated, or that the nomination should be postponed, please let me know (here, on my talk page, or on the peer review pages that I have created for each).
Thanks in advance for any assistance. GaryColemanFan 17:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
While working on stuff for the Ring of Honor page, I saw someone created an article on Pelle Primeau (well, in name only). All I can say is...wow. Feel free to give your two cents in on it's AFD page. Nenog 20:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it okay for me to limit these to 10? I feel like the pages are too long and unnecessary with the combined reign length list having more than 10 people. Baycore 02:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, I think it should only show all the names if the title is inactive/retired. So is it alright for me to shorten the lists? (I feel like I'm gonna get marked for vandalism if I do it anyway) Baycore 01:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I have a question does PWI (Pro Wrestling Illustrator) have a link that shows that they only recognize three World Championships?-- TrUcO9311 03:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Imparative discussion here.-- Monnitewars (talk) 04:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
It really isn't that imperative, but nonetheless if you don't have an AfD to discuss or a dispute to resolve your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers ;) The Hyb rid 05:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Alright, so Misza13 has agreed to let us use User:MiszaBot, the bot that used to deliver Esperanza and Concordia's newsletters. I'm sorting out the last minute details currently, but it is guaranteed that we have ourselves a bot. Currently it will only be delivering {{ Pwcotw notice}}, but the question now is, do we want to write an entire project newsletter? This would greatly improve communication and keep everyone informed of the current events. So, how about it? The Hyb rid 06:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
There has been a bit of discussion over on the WWE No Mercy talk page in regards to "spoilers", specifically when SmackDown has aired in another market. To me, it shouldn't be concidered as spoiler, cause the show has aired in its finished product, not results from the taping. If you are going to argue that it is spoiler, then it could be counter argued that anything from Raw or ECW should be posted until it is aired in other markets to make it fair. I know this is unreasonable, but it is otherwise showing double standards. I have seen the argument that WWE is US based, and that is the largest market, but the reality is WWE is a global company that shows content world wide, and the program SmackDown is broadcast in Australia, New Zealand and Europe, as well as other markets, before it is shown in the US. Therefor, either the 'no spoiler' policy in regards to broadcasts should either apply to all or apply to none, otherwise it shows double standards and favouratism. Lynx Raven Raide 07:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
This has been disputed endlessly. If the spoiler is inserted with a reliable source, then we have no jurisdiction to remove it. The catch to that, however, is that most dirt sheets fail WP:RS, so there are almost no reliable sources for spoilers. If it is not inserted with a source, then it is to be reverted without mercy, and the person who inserts it should be given the uw-unsourced series of warnings. Spoilers are something that we have to tolerate under certain circumstances since this is an encyclopedia, but their insertion should not be encouraged out of respect for the established editors who dislike them. The Hyb rid 09:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Is this move right, see here. Seeing as the belt was used before 2002, surely it shouldn't be WWF? On that note Monnitewars (who moved the page) has made a few controversial moves in the past few days since starting editing on Wiki (September 29), including getting into an edit war on WWE Wreckless Intent. Anyway, shouldn't the Light Heavyweight title page be moved back? Davnel03 11:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Before you start reverting this one look at WWE.com that is why I moved it.-- Monnitewars (talk) 17:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
You couldn't leave it alone could you?-- Monnitewars (talk) 17:16, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Since The Fabulous Kangaroos just passed GA (and became the first tag team article to reach that status) I am now ready to put Al Costello on the list, with Roy Heffernan and Don Kent (wrestler) being potential candidates as well so that all Kangaroo related articles would be GAs in time. So just a heads up, I'll be nominating Al Costello in a day or two (since it's been looked at before). MPJ-DK 15:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
User:LifeStroke420 and I are having a minor dispute. I would appreciate any additional opinions to the situation. The conversation is here. Gavyn Sykes 03:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Am I right in stating that there are several pages in this category, that really aren't targets as such on Wikipedia. I can understand why pages like Punk, Carlito, Edge, Batista, Lashley etc. are on there. I can't understand, however, why pages like Funaki, CW Anderson, Al Snow, FBI and WrestleMania 22 are on there. Can anyone explain because I'm struggling to understand what the complete purpose of that category (and template) is. Thanks, Davnel03 12:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I will be leaving a message like this on this page about this time every Sunday notifying people about this. Can anyone double-check the links on the COTW page in case I've made a slight error. Is this about the right time to do it anyway, or doesn't it really matter. The progress on Pedro Morales' article in the last week diff is here. Truly superb work to the editors involved in the article! Davnel03 13:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I just contacted Misza13, so the deliveries of th template should begin within 24 hours. If anyone wishes to opt out of the weekly delivery, then they should add their name to this list. Cheers, The Hyb rid 20:36, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
This is a notice to inform WP:PW members that I have nominated this article as a Good Article candidate. I have requested feedback on several occasions and have done my best to put the suggestions in place. Thank you to everyone who has helped, and let's hope for the best. GaryColemanFan 21:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
SOMEONE SHOULD CHANGE THE WOMENS TITLE NAME, AS IN THE BOUND FOR GLORY PROMO VIDEOS THEY REFER TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP AS "THE TNA KNOCKOUT CHAMPIONSHIP", SHOULD IT BE CHANGED? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truco9311 ( talk • contribs)
Well, apparently, they have to fully decide whether the title's gonna be called the "TNA World Women's Championship", the "TNA Knockouts Championship" or (generically) the "TNA Women's Championship". We'll have to wait until a consistent name comes to light. The Chronic 02:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
It's that time again, a new WWE game is coming out which means people will soon be changing the names and status of moves to match the game. Some of the problems are obvious (there's no such move as a "Woman's Special Slap") but some less so Umaga has never, to my knowledge, used the Wrecking Ball as a finish, but it's a finish in the game). Just a heads up, if you have any of the people in the roster on your watch list you should be wary of people using the game as a cite.«» bd( talk stalk) 02:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
216.19.115.116 is making edits to just about every wrestling championship reigns by length page they can. The edits are always done to the current title reigns, and they are stupid and pointless as the code changes automatically every day anyways. He may even be causing errors in some of the length tables. TonyFreakinAlmeida 13:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Just a quick message to inform project members that this article has passed its Good Article review.
My next order of business is to see what I can do about getting the List of WCW World Heavyweight Champions article to Featured Article status. I think a picture would help its chances, but nobody seems to have one. Would someone be able to help me copy the picture of the belt from the WCW World Heavyweight Championship article and figure out how to deal with the rationale so that it at least has something? I'm really new to the picture thing, so I'd really appreciate some help. GaryColemanFan 18:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I came across a creative way to link tag team articles. This only applies to tag teams entitled "A and B."
Rather than linking Paul London and Brian Kendrick.
We could instead link it as Paul London and Brian Kendrick. That way, we can link to each individual member, as well as the team itself. I saw it linked like that in an article a while back, so I wanted to bring it up. I've tested it on the last picture in World Tag Team Championship (WWE).
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Gavyn Sykes 22:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The Manual of Style frowns upon two links being next to each other so that they appear as one link. - Deep Shadow 03:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I almost don't even want to be the one to mention this, but TNA launched a new website over the weekend and in the process has broken every single link to their old page. Some of the stuff I can't even find on the new site, like "2005 iMPACT! Quick Results".«» bd( talk stalk) 01:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Just to let the WP:PW community know, a request has been put up to put the Montreal Screwjob article on the Main Page on November 9. The discussion can be found HERE. The Chronic 05:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Having requested and received feedback from WP:PW members, I have nominated this list for Featured List status. I would imagine that project members are allowed to voice their support or objections on the nomination page, provided they remain objective and have not significantly contributed to the article. (Please correct me if I'm wrong...I can't find much information on this process.)
It needs a consensus to be promoted, and at least four people have to give their support. GaryColemanFan 15:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I nominated ONS 2006 for GA status literally an hour ago, and the reviewer has speedy failed it and left this on the talkpage: The good article nomination of this article has been speedily failed because of a complete lack of reliable sources (see WP:QFC 2.1). This is because all sources in this article link to the website or press releases of WWE, the producers of this event. Because these sources are not independent of the producers of the subject of the article, they are not reliable (see WP:RS). Sandstein 16:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please fix Nash's height and weight? Someone had vandalized it to something absurd and I reverted it to a more reasonable height/weight. I cannot confirm if the numbers are accurate or not as I don't have access to google or an outside search engines. -- Endless Dan 17:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Will you give you opinions here.-- Monnitewars (talk) 22:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have any experience with this site? It's popping up in articles, both as a cite and an external link, but I'm leery. The bios, though decently written, provide no sources, and the main page "news/opinion" section provides no writer information. As a whole it seems untrustworthy to me.«» bd( talk stalk) 23:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Based on this and my own personal view, I have taken ONS '06 to a GAR. Please comment on the discussion, and whether the article should be listed as GA here. Davnel03 14:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I took a quick look at List of WWE European Champions today and it seems to me that it is almost ready for a run at FL. Every title change is sourced. Does anything else have to be done before it's ready? The current picture is being speedy deleted so a new one would be nice. DrWarpMind 01:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I've contacted FCW and asked for a more correct logo and permission for more photo's I'll keep everyone updated.-- Monnitewars (talk) 01:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
This should simply be the article should about the indy team/stable. I don't want to hear any crap about small-timers, the fact that we even have an article about the indy team says all that needs to be said. I see now that it's a DAB page, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that a team that's existed for two years and still does is a much, much, much likelier search term than one of a billion things about TNA that's here one day and gone the next. Nosleep1234 06:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
The fact remains, thought that the "
Kings of Professional Wrestling" almost never use that particular name (I can't recall ever hearing it, now that I think of it). It's simply not a suitable article title.
Nosleep1234 13:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Hahaha, I suck. Good work, fellas.
Nosleep1234 13:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Right here is the leadboard at the moment heading into next weeks collaboration, starting this Sunday!
I haven't put that list on there for fun, but to announce that I have (for the moment) put a limit of how many nominations can be on the page at one particular time. At the moment on the page, there are 7 nominations; I have decided to set a limit it to 10. I've done this otherwise we could end up having 15 nominations on the page, which would be extreme overkill. Any objection? Oh, also, do vote for the one you want to become COTW for next week! :) Davnel03 15:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I understand what you're saying, Gary. Yet, I think that articles that are stubs should be priority in the first place. Almost all PPV articles are stubs, so they should be improved. But, articles like EDGE and ONS don't need much improvement, so they don't need to be COTW. I think that with minor improvements, they can become GA or FA. But, articles like Jerry Lawler and Ivan Putski are stubs which need MAJOR help, so they deserve to be COTW. Lex94 16:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I started an article on the Anderson family, but somebody put it up for speedy deletion for not being notable/significant. I'm kinda new to creating articles, so I'm not sure what to do other than perhaps list every tag championship the Andersons won together. Any ideas? TravelingCat 23:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
If they won championships it's notable, just as WWE superstars going trough OVW or FCW are.-- Monnitewars (talk) 18:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
A user just contacted me about this article he has written. I'm not 100% positive about where this stands in regards to WP:N, so if y'all could take a look at it, then that would be great. Peace, The Hybrid T/ C 02:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
The Australian Wrestling Federation is one of the three major Australian Professional Wrestling promotions currently operating in Sydney.
Davnel - you stated above that it is one of the three major promotions in Australia. I'm sorry, but where is the evidence of this? From what I can tell there are no major promotions in Australia - and taking the quote from the AWF website that I assume you did is falling for the promotion's advertising propoganda. But you did add that it needs references, and that it does. And reliable third party ones at that. I wish you all luck with that because I looked and I couldn't find anything other than fansites. !! Justa Punk !! 03:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need this page? I think it should be merged into the main Wrestling Society X article. Davnel03 18:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
This article is currently nominated for Featured List status. The discussion (or lack thereof) can be found here. If anyone has a few minutes, I would really appreciate it if they could take a couple of minutes to look over the list and then add their thoughts to the discussion.
In addition, the Good Article Reassessment discussion for One Night Stand (2006) is located here. Davnel03 has put a lot of good work into the article, and it would be great if some project members could support the reassessment bid (assuming, of course, they agree that speedy failing an article for citing WWE.com is unreasonable). GaryColemanFan 21:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Just to let ya'll know I moved Tuesday in Texas to This Tuesday in Texas to fit with the logo and and it's labeled as on my WWE DVD's.-- Monnitewars (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Two articles currently on the list are on nthe verge of being pruned if they don't get one more vote before tomorrow (14 October). If they don't get one more vote, I will be removing them from the list in about 24 hours. The articles in question are:
According to the "prunning" criteria, a article must have 6 votes in 14 days and 3 votes in 7 days, hence, both articles need one more vote to avoid being pruned. Please list your vote here. Thank you for your co-operation! Davnel03 08:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Apparently, tomorrow there is going to be a triple tie for the COTW.
Well, those are the candidates, and if someone doesn't vote for one of the top 3, in the next 12 hours, then there is going to be a triple tie. Lex94 16:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
This is getting suspenseful. I just voted for One Night Stand so it wouldn't be pruned, so now we have a four way tie with each article having 6 votes each. Nikki311 16:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?! You voted for ONS so it doesn't get pruned?... That's not the idea of COTW. You vote for the article YOU want to get improved. You don't vote just because you pitty it. Now, look what you've done. A 4-way tie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lex94 ( talk • contribs) 16:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
If there is a tie, what should we do? Pick the one that reached 6 (or whatever number it hits) first? DrWarpMind 16:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Well Wrestlemania III has 8 votes now. So, it will hopefully be the new COTW. On a side note, it would make both my nominees COTW for 2 straight weeks (Jerry Lawler, Wrestlemania III) :D Lex94 18:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
In case of a tie, voting will be extended for 24 hours.
i was just kidding, i really dnt care if both my nominations made COTW consecutively. Its just a coincidence. Lex94 15:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Someone looked over this article and suggested that the Hogan-Jarrett-Booker T thing would work better as a note than included in the table. I agree, but I haven't found clear instructions on how to make a note. If anyone understands, it would be great if someone could help out. I've been fighting with it for a long time now. Thanks. GaryColemanFan 17:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed the multiple names used a championship if a wrestler won it under different names. The more I think about it, the more I believe that the hybrid names look lame. My proposal is to use the name of the title from the wrestler's most recent reign. Thoughts? Mshake3 18:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
It makes sense to some degree and I've seen it done this particular way in other articles. For example, even though Tully Blanchard is sometimes referred to as a three time NWA World Television Champion, it's not exactly accurate. When he won it the first time, the championship was simply called the NWA Television Championship. He won the strap two more times after the addition of "World" to the title name. Anyhow, in his article, the two titles are listed seperately thusly:
Even though they're historically the same championship, I think it looks better seperately rather than all musched together like this:
Another possible option could be to list the championships in much the same way as different promotions are to reflect the names they used while a wrestler worked there. If nobody likes the idea of listing differently named championships connected by lineages seperately, this could potentially work:
While I can understand something like Hogan's WWE Title reigns, that Blanchard one is ridiculous IMO and not something we should do. That is like saying we should have The Big Show listed as ECW World Heavyweight Champion/ECW World Champion (since the title changed names during his reign. TJ Spyke 23:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I made this table for the 3 incarnations of DX.
Incarnation # | Incarnation Type | Year's Active | Members |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Stable | September 20 1997- July 25 1999 Fully Loaded 1999 |
Triple H Shawn Michaels Road Dogg X-Pac Chyna Rick Rude Billy Gun |
2 | Stable | October 25 1999- December 12 2000 |
Triple H Shawn Michaels Billy Gunn X-Pac Tori Stephanie McMahon Mike Tyson |
4 | Tag-Team | June 12 2006- April 1 2007 |
Triple H Shawn Michaels |
I created this table for the members in DX, to make the dates more clearer.
Member | Joined | Departed |
---|---|---|
Shawn Michaels | 1
September 20
1997 1 January 4 1999 3 June 12 2006 |
March 29
1998 See Below1 April 1 2007( WrestleMania 23)2 |
Triple H | 1
September 20
1997 2 October 25 1999 3 June 12 2006 |
March 28
1999 December 12 2000 January 7 2007( New Year's Revolution 2007)2 |
Chyna | 1 September 20 1997 | January 25 1999 |
Rick Rude | 1 September 20 1997 | November 17 1997 |
Billy Gunn | 1,2
March 30
1998 2 September 23 1999 |
May 2
1999 February 28 2000 |
Road Dogg | 1,2 March 30 1998 | August 24 2000 |
X-Pac | 1,2 March 30 1998 | August 24 2000 |
Tori | 2 January 27 2000 | June 25 2000 |
Stephanie McMahon | 2 December 1999 | March 2000 |
Mike Tyson | 1 March 29 1998 ( WrestleMania XIV) | See Below1 |
1Member under First Incarnation
2Member under Second Incarnation
3Member under Third Incarnation
1One night only
2Last appearance under third incarnation
Do you approve of the tables to be put in the article?
TrUcO9311 01:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Approve or Oppose
This weeks Collaboration of the week is WrestleMania III. Please work to expand it as much as you can.
Now, the COTW has reached a landmark occasion. This is the first week where we will be voting for this project's first Featured article collaboration. Let the grand experiment begin! Please nominate and/or vote for which of our Good articles deserves to be featured more than any of the others. At the end of the week, the good article with the most votes will be elected the project collaboration, with the goal of making it a Featured Article. Cheers, The Hybrid T/ C 05:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Discussion here. Davnel03 11:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes! (look at top of page) Thanks to everyone who helped with the article!!!! Right, question time. Should I just leave the article at GA, or actually attempt FA (obviously by getting a copy-edit and stuff first)? :) Davnel03 16:22, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I’ve made 4 page moves since the original name is a rather misunderstood translation of the Mexican name for it – just like it wasn’t the “WWE Europe Championship” but European Championship it’s the “Mexican National” championship not “Mexico National”. So the moves were as follows.
I’ve also improved/expanded 3 of the 4 articles. Just FYI since it’s within the scope of this project. MPJ-DK 08:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I sent an e-mail to World Wrestling Entertainment several hours ago asking whether there would be a NYR in 2008. Here is the response:
I'm going to post this on the NYR talkpage too. Davnel03 17:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 25 | ← | Archive 28 | Archive 29 | Archive 30 | Archive 31 | Archive 32 | → | Archive 35 |
I'm curious about this one... Stone Cold Steve Austin's article was rated as B-class until Frederick day changed it to stub class. He was upset about the lack of sources, but I think it's still better than a stub. And, although he claims not to be biased, he only lowered the class for the WikiProject Wrestling rating. The WikiProject Texas rating is still a B. GaryColemanFan 00:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey everyone. I was just cleaning up the Ladder match article, and I discovered a major problem. A user merged the Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match into the article, without following the proper steps to merge. I left a note on his talk page telling him to propose a merger first, let people either support or oppose, etc etc. While I would have supported the merger, the problem here is that he violated the GFDL by not indicating in his edit summaries where he was merging content to and where the merged content was coming from. While I'm not to familiar with GFDL, I do know that he violated it (it says so on WP:Merge). Now what? Is there a way to remedy this? Nikki311 01:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Someone tried to add a table to the bottom of this article listing the champions by the length of their title reigns. I fixed the formatting because it looked bad, but I'm not sure if this is the right place for it. Does it belong in the article? GaryColemanFan 03:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I was scurrying through a load of wrestling-related pages, and came to this page. Do we really need this page, surely it isn't a load of cruft. I also think that SNME results aren't as notable as PPV results. Should I AFD it? Davnel03 14:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
SNME is no more or less important than a PPV (or than a weekly show like RAW, SmackDown! or ECW for that matter). The same things happen at all three types of events (PPVS, SNME, weekly shows) - title changes, storyline progressions, specialty matches, normal matches, pyro, guest appearances etc. I just really don't see how its different. -- Naha| (talk) 20:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I see only one person opposing the AfD nomination, so I'll just go ahead and AfD the damn thing. Cheers, The Hyb rid 00:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Users Maestro25 and TJ Spyke seem to be having a disagreement via edit summaries on the WWE No Mercy article regarding whether F4W matches are spelled Fatal Four-Way or Fatal Four Way (with or without the dash). TJ seems to think this matter was previously settled/discussed (if so, its not something I've seen, but then again with so many articles its hard to keep an eye on every page where a discussion might be taking place), and argues in favor of the dash. Maestro doesn't think anything has been setteled and argues against the dash.
Gentlemen, I ask you both to please state your reasons for your opinions on the matter. I also ask other people to chime in in regards to whether or not this has been previously discussed (and if so what was the outcome?), and also, on your opinions of how it should be properly spelled. I personally have no strong feelings one way or the other on this one - just that whatever is decided be used uniformly across all PW articles. I just don't like to see arguments among our members. Discuss away! Thanks, -- Naha| (talk) 21:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
The whole thing is already under WP:LAME. It is not a British vs US spelling thing as the WWE is a US company and so it is just pedantry, if the article was created with the dash then leave it in, if it was created with-out the dash then leave it out. Darrenhusted 15:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on three articles lately, and I've done about all I can do from my end. If anyone can help out, I'd really appreciate it.
If anyone knows of a reason that SummerSlam 1993 or the List of WCW Champions shouldn't be nominated, or that the nomination should be postponed, please let me know (here, on my talk page, or on the peer review pages that I have created for each).
Thanks in advance for any assistance. GaryColemanFan 17:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
While working on stuff for the Ring of Honor page, I saw someone created an article on Pelle Primeau (well, in name only). All I can say is...wow. Feel free to give your two cents in on it's AFD page. Nenog 20:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it okay for me to limit these to 10? I feel like the pages are too long and unnecessary with the combined reign length list having more than 10 people. Baycore 02:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, I think it should only show all the names if the title is inactive/retired. So is it alright for me to shorten the lists? (I feel like I'm gonna get marked for vandalism if I do it anyway) Baycore 01:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I have a question does PWI (Pro Wrestling Illustrator) have a link that shows that they only recognize three World Championships?-- TrUcO9311 03:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Imparative discussion here.-- Monnitewars (talk) 04:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
It really isn't that imperative, but nonetheless if you don't have an AfD to discuss or a dispute to resolve your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers ;) The Hyb rid 05:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Alright, so Misza13 has agreed to let us use User:MiszaBot, the bot that used to deliver Esperanza and Concordia's newsletters. I'm sorting out the last minute details currently, but it is guaranteed that we have ourselves a bot. Currently it will only be delivering {{ Pwcotw notice}}, but the question now is, do we want to write an entire project newsletter? This would greatly improve communication and keep everyone informed of the current events. So, how about it? The Hyb rid 06:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
There has been a bit of discussion over on the WWE No Mercy talk page in regards to "spoilers", specifically when SmackDown has aired in another market. To me, it shouldn't be concidered as spoiler, cause the show has aired in its finished product, not results from the taping. If you are going to argue that it is spoiler, then it could be counter argued that anything from Raw or ECW should be posted until it is aired in other markets to make it fair. I know this is unreasonable, but it is otherwise showing double standards. I have seen the argument that WWE is US based, and that is the largest market, but the reality is WWE is a global company that shows content world wide, and the program SmackDown is broadcast in Australia, New Zealand and Europe, as well as other markets, before it is shown in the US. Therefor, either the 'no spoiler' policy in regards to broadcasts should either apply to all or apply to none, otherwise it shows double standards and favouratism. Lynx Raven Raide 07:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
This has been disputed endlessly. If the spoiler is inserted with a reliable source, then we have no jurisdiction to remove it. The catch to that, however, is that most dirt sheets fail WP:RS, so there are almost no reliable sources for spoilers. If it is not inserted with a source, then it is to be reverted without mercy, and the person who inserts it should be given the uw-unsourced series of warnings. Spoilers are something that we have to tolerate under certain circumstances since this is an encyclopedia, but their insertion should not be encouraged out of respect for the established editors who dislike them. The Hyb rid 09:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Is this move right, see here. Seeing as the belt was used before 2002, surely it shouldn't be WWF? On that note Monnitewars (who moved the page) has made a few controversial moves in the past few days since starting editing on Wiki (September 29), including getting into an edit war on WWE Wreckless Intent. Anyway, shouldn't the Light Heavyweight title page be moved back? Davnel03 11:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Before you start reverting this one look at WWE.com that is why I moved it.-- Monnitewars (talk) 17:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
You couldn't leave it alone could you?-- Monnitewars (talk) 17:16, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Since The Fabulous Kangaroos just passed GA (and became the first tag team article to reach that status) I am now ready to put Al Costello on the list, with Roy Heffernan and Don Kent (wrestler) being potential candidates as well so that all Kangaroo related articles would be GAs in time. So just a heads up, I'll be nominating Al Costello in a day or two (since it's been looked at before). MPJ-DK 15:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
User:LifeStroke420 and I are having a minor dispute. I would appreciate any additional opinions to the situation. The conversation is here. Gavyn Sykes 03:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Am I right in stating that there are several pages in this category, that really aren't targets as such on Wikipedia. I can understand why pages like Punk, Carlito, Edge, Batista, Lashley etc. are on there. I can't understand, however, why pages like Funaki, CW Anderson, Al Snow, FBI and WrestleMania 22 are on there. Can anyone explain because I'm struggling to understand what the complete purpose of that category (and template) is. Thanks, Davnel03 12:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I will be leaving a message like this on this page about this time every Sunday notifying people about this. Can anyone double-check the links on the COTW page in case I've made a slight error. Is this about the right time to do it anyway, or doesn't it really matter. The progress on Pedro Morales' article in the last week diff is here. Truly superb work to the editors involved in the article! Davnel03 13:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I just contacted Misza13, so the deliveries of th template should begin within 24 hours. If anyone wishes to opt out of the weekly delivery, then they should add their name to this list. Cheers, The Hyb rid 20:36, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
This is a notice to inform WP:PW members that I have nominated this article as a Good Article candidate. I have requested feedback on several occasions and have done my best to put the suggestions in place. Thank you to everyone who has helped, and let's hope for the best. GaryColemanFan 21:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
SOMEONE SHOULD CHANGE THE WOMENS TITLE NAME, AS IN THE BOUND FOR GLORY PROMO VIDEOS THEY REFER TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP AS "THE TNA KNOCKOUT CHAMPIONSHIP", SHOULD IT BE CHANGED? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truco9311 ( talk • contribs)
Well, apparently, they have to fully decide whether the title's gonna be called the "TNA World Women's Championship", the "TNA Knockouts Championship" or (generically) the "TNA Women's Championship". We'll have to wait until a consistent name comes to light. The Chronic 02:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
It's that time again, a new WWE game is coming out which means people will soon be changing the names and status of moves to match the game. Some of the problems are obvious (there's no such move as a "Woman's Special Slap") but some less so Umaga has never, to my knowledge, used the Wrecking Ball as a finish, but it's a finish in the game). Just a heads up, if you have any of the people in the roster on your watch list you should be wary of people using the game as a cite.«» bd( talk stalk) 02:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
216.19.115.116 is making edits to just about every wrestling championship reigns by length page they can. The edits are always done to the current title reigns, and they are stupid and pointless as the code changes automatically every day anyways. He may even be causing errors in some of the length tables. TonyFreakinAlmeida 13:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Just a quick message to inform project members that this article has passed its Good Article review.
My next order of business is to see what I can do about getting the List of WCW World Heavyweight Champions article to Featured Article status. I think a picture would help its chances, but nobody seems to have one. Would someone be able to help me copy the picture of the belt from the WCW World Heavyweight Championship article and figure out how to deal with the rationale so that it at least has something? I'm really new to the picture thing, so I'd really appreciate some help. GaryColemanFan 18:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I came across a creative way to link tag team articles. This only applies to tag teams entitled "A and B."
Rather than linking Paul London and Brian Kendrick.
We could instead link it as Paul London and Brian Kendrick. That way, we can link to each individual member, as well as the team itself. I saw it linked like that in an article a while back, so I wanted to bring it up. I've tested it on the last picture in World Tag Team Championship (WWE).
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Gavyn Sykes 22:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The Manual of Style frowns upon two links being next to each other so that they appear as one link. - Deep Shadow 03:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I almost don't even want to be the one to mention this, but TNA launched a new website over the weekend and in the process has broken every single link to their old page. Some of the stuff I can't even find on the new site, like "2005 iMPACT! Quick Results".«» bd( talk stalk) 01:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Just to let the WP:PW community know, a request has been put up to put the Montreal Screwjob article on the Main Page on November 9. The discussion can be found HERE. The Chronic 05:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Having requested and received feedback from WP:PW members, I have nominated this list for Featured List status. I would imagine that project members are allowed to voice their support or objections on the nomination page, provided they remain objective and have not significantly contributed to the article. (Please correct me if I'm wrong...I can't find much information on this process.)
It needs a consensus to be promoted, and at least four people have to give their support. GaryColemanFan 15:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I nominated ONS 2006 for GA status literally an hour ago, and the reviewer has speedy failed it and left this on the talkpage: The good article nomination of this article has been speedily failed because of a complete lack of reliable sources (see WP:QFC 2.1). This is because all sources in this article link to the website or press releases of WWE, the producers of this event. Because these sources are not independent of the producers of the subject of the article, they are not reliable (see WP:RS). Sandstein 16:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please fix Nash's height and weight? Someone had vandalized it to something absurd and I reverted it to a more reasonable height/weight. I cannot confirm if the numbers are accurate or not as I don't have access to google or an outside search engines. -- Endless Dan 17:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Will you give you opinions here.-- Monnitewars (talk) 22:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have any experience with this site? It's popping up in articles, both as a cite and an external link, but I'm leery. The bios, though decently written, provide no sources, and the main page "news/opinion" section provides no writer information. As a whole it seems untrustworthy to me.«» bd( talk stalk) 23:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Based on this and my own personal view, I have taken ONS '06 to a GAR. Please comment on the discussion, and whether the article should be listed as GA here. Davnel03 14:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I took a quick look at List of WWE European Champions today and it seems to me that it is almost ready for a run at FL. Every title change is sourced. Does anything else have to be done before it's ready? The current picture is being speedy deleted so a new one would be nice. DrWarpMind 01:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I've contacted FCW and asked for a more correct logo and permission for more photo's I'll keep everyone updated.-- Monnitewars (talk) 01:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
This should simply be the article should about the indy team/stable. I don't want to hear any crap about small-timers, the fact that we even have an article about the indy team says all that needs to be said. I see now that it's a DAB page, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that a team that's existed for two years and still does is a much, much, much likelier search term than one of a billion things about TNA that's here one day and gone the next. Nosleep1234 06:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
The fact remains, thought that the "
Kings of Professional Wrestling" almost never use that particular name (I can't recall ever hearing it, now that I think of it). It's simply not a suitable article title.
Nosleep1234 13:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Hahaha, I suck. Good work, fellas.
Nosleep1234 13:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Right here is the leadboard at the moment heading into next weeks collaboration, starting this Sunday!
I haven't put that list on there for fun, but to announce that I have (for the moment) put a limit of how many nominations can be on the page at one particular time. At the moment on the page, there are 7 nominations; I have decided to set a limit it to 10. I've done this otherwise we could end up having 15 nominations on the page, which would be extreme overkill. Any objection? Oh, also, do vote for the one you want to become COTW for next week! :) Davnel03 15:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I understand what you're saying, Gary. Yet, I think that articles that are stubs should be priority in the first place. Almost all PPV articles are stubs, so they should be improved. But, articles like EDGE and ONS don't need much improvement, so they don't need to be COTW. I think that with minor improvements, they can become GA or FA. But, articles like Jerry Lawler and Ivan Putski are stubs which need MAJOR help, so they deserve to be COTW. Lex94 16:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I started an article on the Anderson family, but somebody put it up for speedy deletion for not being notable/significant. I'm kinda new to creating articles, so I'm not sure what to do other than perhaps list every tag championship the Andersons won together. Any ideas? TravelingCat 23:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
If they won championships it's notable, just as WWE superstars going trough OVW or FCW are.-- Monnitewars (talk) 18:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
A user just contacted me about this article he has written. I'm not 100% positive about where this stands in regards to WP:N, so if y'all could take a look at it, then that would be great. Peace, The Hybrid T/ C 02:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
The Australian Wrestling Federation is one of the three major Australian Professional Wrestling promotions currently operating in Sydney.
Davnel - you stated above that it is one of the three major promotions in Australia. I'm sorry, but where is the evidence of this? From what I can tell there are no major promotions in Australia - and taking the quote from the AWF website that I assume you did is falling for the promotion's advertising propoganda. But you did add that it needs references, and that it does. And reliable third party ones at that. I wish you all luck with that because I looked and I couldn't find anything other than fansites. !! Justa Punk !! 03:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need this page? I think it should be merged into the main Wrestling Society X article. Davnel03 18:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
This article is currently nominated for Featured List status. The discussion (or lack thereof) can be found here. If anyone has a few minutes, I would really appreciate it if they could take a couple of minutes to look over the list and then add their thoughts to the discussion.
In addition, the Good Article Reassessment discussion for One Night Stand (2006) is located here. Davnel03 has put a lot of good work into the article, and it would be great if some project members could support the reassessment bid (assuming, of course, they agree that speedy failing an article for citing WWE.com is unreasonable). GaryColemanFan 21:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Just to let ya'll know I moved Tuesday in Texas to This Tuesday in Texas to fit with the logo and and it's labeled as on my WWE DVD's.-- Monnitewars (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Two articles currently on the list are on nthe verge of being pruned if they don't get one more vote before tomorrow (14 October). If they don't get one more vote, I will be removing them from the list in about 24 hours. The articles in question are:
According to the "prunning" criteria, a article must have 6 votes in 14 days and 3 votes in 7 days, hence, both articles need one more vote to avoid being pruned. Please list your vote here. Thank you for your co-operation! Davnel03 08:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Apparently, tomorrow there is going to be a triple tie for the COTW.
Well, those are the candidates, and if someone doesn't vote for one of the top 3, in the next 12 hours, then there is going to be a triple tie. Lex94 16:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
This is getting suspenseful. I just voted for One Night Stand so it wouldn't be pruned, so now we have a four way tie with each article having 6 votes each. Nikki311 16:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?! You voted for ONS so it doesn't get pruned?... That's not the idea of COTW. You vote for the article YOU want to get improved. You don't vote just because you pitty it. Now, look what you've done. A 4-way tie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lex94 ( talk • contribs) 16:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
If there is a tie, what should we do? Pick the one that reached 6 (or whatever number it hits) first? DrWarpMind 16:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Well Wrestlemania III has 8 votes now. So, it will hopefully be the new COTW. On a side note, it would make both my nominees COTW for 2 straight weeks (Jerry Lawler, Wrestlemania III) :D Lex94 18:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
In case of a tie, voting will be extended for 24 hours.
i was just kidding, i really dnt care if both my nominations made COTW consecutively. Its just a coincidence. Lex94 15:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Someone looked over this article and suggested that the Hogan-Jarrett-Booker T thing would work better as a note than included in the table. I agree, but I haven't found clear instructions on how to make a note. If anyone understands, it would be great if someone could help out. I've been fighting with it for a long time now. Thanks. GaryColemanFan 17:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed the multiple names used a championship if a wrestler won it under different names. The more I think about it, the more I believe that the hybrid names look lame. My proposal is to use the name of the title from the wrestler's most recent reign. Thoughts? Mshake3 18:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
It makes sense to some degree and I've seen it done this particular way in other articles. For example, even though Tully Blanchard is sometimes referred to as a three time NWA World Television Champion, it's not exactly accurate. When he won it the first time, the championship was simply called the NWA Television Championship. He won the strap two more times after the addition of "World" to the title name. Anyhow, in his article, the two titles are listed seperately thusly:
Even though they're historically the same championship, I think it looks better seperately rather than all musched together like this:
Another possible option could be to list the championships in much the same way as different promotions are to reflect the names they used while a wrestler worked there. If nobody likes the idea of listing differently named championships connected by lineages seperately, this could potentially work:
While I can understand something like Hogan's WWE Title reigns, that Blanchard one is ridiculous IMO and not something we should do. That is like saying we should have The Big Show listed as ECW World Heavyweight Champion/ECW World Champion (since the title changed names during his reign. TJ Spyke 23:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I made this table for the 3 incarnations of DX.
Incarnation # | Incarnation Type | Year's Active | Members |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Stable | September 20 1997- July 25 1999 Fully Loaded 1999 |
Triple H Shawn Michaels Road Dogg X-Pac Chyna Rick Rude Billy Gun |
2 | Stable | October 25 1999- December 12 2000 |
Triple H Shawn Michaels Billy Gunn X-Pac Tori Stephanie McMahon Mike Tyson |
4 | Tag-Team | June 12 2006- April 1 2007 |
Triple H Shawn Michaels |
I created this table for the members in DX, to make the dates more clearer.
Member | Joined | Departed |
---|---|---|
Shawn Michaels | 1
September 20
1997 1 January 4 1999 3 June 12 2006 |
March 29
1998 See Below1 April 1 2007( WrestleMania 23)2 |
Triple H | 1
September 20
1997 2 October 25 1999 3 June 12 2006 |
March 28
1999 December 12 2000 January 7 2007( New Year's Revolution 2007)2 |
Chyna | 1 September 20 1997 | January 25 1999 |
Rick Rude | 1 September 20 1997 | November 17 1997 |
Billy Gunn | 1,2
March 30
1998 2 September 23 1999 |
May 2
1999 February 28 2000 |
Road Dogg | 1,2 March 30 1998 | August 24 2000 |
X-Pac | 1,2 March 30 1998 | August 24 2000 |
Tori | 2 January 27 2000 | June 25 2000 |
Stephanie McMahon | 2 December 1999 | March 2000 |
Mike Tyson | 1 March 29 1998 ( WrestleMania XIV) | See Below1 |
1Member under First Incarnation
2Member under Second Incarnation
3Member under Third Incarnation
1One night only
2Last appearance under third incarnation
Do you approve of the tables to be put in the article?
TrUcO9311 01:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Approve or Oppose
This weeks Collaboration of the week is WrestleMania III. Please work to expand it as much as you can.
Now, the COTW has reached a landmark occasion. This is the first week where we will be voting for this project's first Featured article collaboration. Let the grand experiment begin! Please nominate and/or vote for which of our Good articles deserves to be featured more than any of the others. At the end of the week, the good article with the most votes will be elected the project collaboration, with the goal of making it a Featured Article. Cheers, The Hybrid T/ C 05:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Discussion here. Davnel03 11:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes! (look at top of page) Thanks to everyone who helped with the article!!!! Right, question time. Should I just leave the article at GA, or actually attempt FA (obviously by getting a copy-edit and stuff first)? :) Davnel03 16:22, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I’ve made 4 page moves since the original name is a rather misunderstood translation of the Mexican name for it – just like it wasn’t the “WWE Europe Championship” but European Championship it’s the “Mexican National” championship not “Mexico National”. So the moves were as follows.
I’ve also improved/expanded 3 of the 4 articles. Just FYI since it’s within the scope of this project. MPJ-DK 08:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I sent an e-mail to World Wrestling Entertainment several hours ago asking whether there would be a NYR in 2008. Here is the response:
I'm going to post this on the NYR talkpage too. Davnel03 17:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)