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Hello, does anyone have any good recommendations on how to identify a particular flower? In particular, I want to upload this picture which I took (assuming the article does not have a better one), but I don't know what it's a picture of! I also have literally hundreds of other flowers sitting on my hard drive, but I figured we'll start one at a time. I'm not very good with plants (or anything biology, for that matter). I just like to take pictures. Is there a fairly easy-to-use guide on how to identify this plant, or does anyone have an idea what it is? Thanks for any insight. -- Shirik ( Questions or Comments?) 04:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Please comment on the edit war situation over the introduction to the article. The central issue is whether the class name Hepaticae can/should be among the bolded items listed in the article summary at the top of the page, versus simply being discussed in the body of the article in an appropriate section. User Nadiatalent believes that the name must be present in the article summary. I believe that there complications that make doing so more detrimental than beneficial. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I started Ranunculus aconitifolius, but I am not sure that I have followed the correct style. I would be grateful if another editor could check the article. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 04:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
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This message was delivered by User:EarwigBot, at 00:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC), on behalf of Headbomb. Headbomb probably isn't watching this page, so if you want him to reply here, just leave him a message on his talk page. EarwigBot ( owner • talk) 00:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I was reading name-bearing type, trying to figure out the differences between a zoological name-bearing type and a botanical "nomenclatural type". As far as I can tell, the difference only shows up for groups above species (in both case the term exist to encompass holo-, lecto-, neotypes... but not paratypes—I'm not clear whether a syntype can be nomenclatural/name-bearing). In the ICZN, the type of a genus or family is not a specimen, but a "name" or "species concept". That is, the ICZN refers specifically to the species or genus being the type, whereas the ICBN specifically states the type of supraspecific ranks is a specimen, but the name of the species/genus is used by convenience. In fact this is so widespread that no author ever talk about the specimen when designating a genus type.
So basically my question is: if an author designates as type species (more accurately lectotype, but I've never seen the different types used when referring to genera) for an existing genus one that happens to have no previously designated nomenclatural type, that designation would be technically invalid under the code, right? Does anybody knows of situations having to do with this? (I know it is much more typical to have problems with designating a type species that will not be nomenclaturally inconvenient, e.g. because all the original species have been designated type species for segregate genera in the meantime.) Circéus ( talk) 06:03, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
What flower is this? -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 00:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I have proposed on Talk:Cabbage tree (New Zealand) that this article should be moved to the scienctific name, Cordyline australis. There are actually five native NZ species of Cordyline which have Cabbage tree as part of their common names, and the others are all under their binomials, although this one is the best known. But my main reason for raising this here is that I am nearly finished a rewrite and expansion of the article and wouldn't mind some input and advice from people interested in plants :) Kahuroa ( talk) 01:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
To put the flowers into their better category, a better identification of these flowers are needed. I tried to take them as close as possible. Thanks! -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 04:45, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Are these orchids? -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 02:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Should articles about plants in culture, religion and mythology, such as Tree worship, World Tree or Yggdrasil, be within the scope of this WikiProject? These are often under different WikiPRojects - for example Tree worship is under WikiProject Religion and Yggdrasil is under WikiProject_Mythology and WikiProject Norse history and culture. Perhaps the scope of our WikiProject should be extended to take all articles related to plants under its umbrella. AshLin ( talk) 05:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
A newbie ( User:219.74.207.106) has made a bit of a mess with Annona scleroderma and Annona crassiflora, etc. I've made a start at cleaning up the former, but I haven't the time to deal with the rest at the moment. Lavateraguy ( talk) 08:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Another IP ( User_talk:121.7.241.84), but possibly the same user, has been creating pages as talk pages, and linking the Passiflora article to these. (Some have already been moved to the right place - the new articles seem on first glance to be reasonable stubs.) Lavateraguy ( talk) 14:49, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Could anybody help in identifying the species or cultivar of this picture? It was found growing in the wild on a mountain in East Africa -- Muhammad (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
hi ! persian wiki have some new picture a but Sisymbrium irio. u can use of this http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8%B4%DB%8C%D8%B1 User talk:78.38.246.66|talk]]) 19:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.38.246.70 ( talk)
Are there any standards for plant range maps? Any conventional colours? I don't want to make too many and have to change'm all.
I asked that question at [ Talk:WikiProject_Maps]. User:Yug replied saying well, not really, and he says they need some input: 'A biologist is still needed to tell us if better colors and better categorization are in use within the real-life biologist community's books.' Any thoughts from this project? (I will also copy this the Biology wikiproject) Kahuroa ( talk) 03:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Any ideas? I assume the genus is Nymphaea. It's from a botanical garden, so no idea on native region. Kaldari ( talk) 15:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm running up against my limitations in understanding with this newly named orchid, Ornithidium donaldeedodii. Can anyone help? The genus name redirects to another related genus, and I don't know why. It makes me doubt whether I got the information in the taxobox correct. Also, how "official" is the naming? Does it have to get more widely accepted, or is its first publishing in Lankesteriana enough to make it WP article-worthy? The article is technically long enough for a DYK, though just barely, and could use some more fluffing up. Thanks, First Light ( talk) 21:54, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 40 | ← | Archive 43 | Archive 44 | Archive 45 | Archive 46 | Archive 47 | → | Archive 50 |
Hello, does anyone have any good recommendations on how to identify a particular flower? In particular, I want to upload this picture which I took (assuming the article does not have a better one), but I don't know what it's a picture of! I also have literally hundreds of other flowers sitting on my hard drive, but I figured we'll start one at a time. I'm not very good with plants (or anything biology, for that matter). I just like to take pictures. Is there a fairly easy-to-use guide on how to identify this plant, or does anyone have an idea what it is? Thanks for any insight. -- Shirik ( Questions or Comments?) 04:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Please comment on the edit war situation over the introduction to the article. The central issue is whether the class name Hepaticae can/should be among the bolded items listed in the article summary at the top of the page, versus simply being discussed in the body of the article in an appropriate section. User Nadiatalent believes that the name must be present in the article summary. I believe that there complications that make doing so more detrimental than beneficial. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I started Ranunculus aconitifolius, but I am not sure that I have followed the correct style. I would be grateful if another editor could check the article. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 04:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
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An example of a book cover, taken from Book:Hadronic Matter |
As detailed in last week's Signpost, WikiProject Wikipedia books is undertaking a cleanup all Wikipedia books. Particularly, the {{ saved book}} template has been updated to allow editors to specify the default covers of the books. Title, subtitle, cover-image, and cover-color can all be specified, and an HTML preview of the cover will be generated and shown on the book's page (an example of such a cover is found on the right). Ideally, all books in Category:Book-Class plant articles should have covers.
If you need help with the {{ saved book}} template, or have any questions about books in general, see Help:Books, Wikipedia:Books, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia-Books, or ask me on my talk page. Also feel free to join WikiProject Wikipedia-Books, as we need all the help we can get.
This message was delivered by User:EarwigBot, at 00:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC), on behalf of Headbomb. Headbomb probably isn't watching this page, so if you want him to reply here, just leave him a message on his talk page. EarwigBot ( owner • talk) 00:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I was reading name-bearing type, trying to figure out the differences between a zoological name-bearing type and a botanical "nomenclatural type". As far as I can tell, the difference only shows up for groups above species (in both case the term exist to encompass holo-, lecto-, neotypes... but not paratypes—I'm not clear whether a syntype can be nomenclatural/name-bearing). In the ICZN, the type of a genus or family is not a specimen, but a "name" or "species concept". That is, the ICZN refers specifically to the species or genus being the type, whereas the ICBN specifically states the type of supraspecific ranks is a specimen, but the name of the species/genus is used by convenience. In fact this is so widespread that no author ever talk about the specimen when designating a genus type.
So basically my question is: if an author designates as type species (more accurately lectotype, but I've never seen the different types used when referring to genera) for an existing genus one that happens to have no previously designated nomenclatural type, that designation would be technically invalid under the code, right? Does anybody knows of situations having to do with this? (I know it is much more typical to have problems with designating a type species that will not be nomenclaturally inconvenient, e.g. because all the original species have been designated type species for segregate genera in the meantime.) Circéus ( talk) 06:03, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
What flower is this? -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 00:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I have proposed on Talk:Cabbage tree (New Zealand) that this article should be moved to the scienctific name, Cordyline australis. There are actually five native NZ species of Cordyline which have Cabbage tree as part of their common names, and the others are all under their binomials, although this one is the best known. But my main reason for raising this here is that I am nearly finished a rewrite and expansion of the article and wouldn't mind some input and advice from people interested in plants :) Kahuroa ( talk) 01:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
To put the flowers into their better category, a better identification of these flowers are needed. I tried to take them as close as possible. Thanks! -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 04:45, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Are these orchids? -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 02:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Should articles about plants in culture, religion and mythology, such as Tree worship, World Tree or Yggdrasil, be within the scope of this WikiProject? These are often under different WikiPRojects - for example Tree worship is under WikiProject Religion and Yggdrasil is under WikiProject_Mythology and WikiProject Norse history and culture. Perhaps the scope of our WikiProject should be extended to take all articles related to plants under its umbrella. AshLin ( talk) 05:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
A newbie ( User:219.74.207.106) has made a bit of a mess with Annona scleroderma and Annona crassiflora, etc. I've made a start at cleaning up the former, but I haven't the time to deal with the rest at the moment. Lavateraguy ( talk) 08:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Another IP ( User_talk:121.7.241.84), but possibly the same user, has been creating pages as talk pages, and linking the Passiflora article to these. (Some have already been moved to the right place - the new articles seem on first glance to be reasonable stubs.) Lavateraguy ( talk) 14:49, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Could anybody help in identifying the species or cultivar of this picture? It was found growing in the wild on a mountain in East Africa -- Muhammad (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
hi ! persian wiki have some new picture a but Sisymbrium irio. u can use of this http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8%B4%DB%8C%D8%B1 User talk:78.38.246.66|talk]]) 19:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.38.246.70 ( talk)
Are there any standards for plant range maps? Any conventional colours? I don't want to make too many and have to change'm all.
I asked that question at [ Talk:WikiProject_Maps]. User:Yug replied saying well, not really, and he says they need some input: 'A biologist is still needed to tell us if better colors and better categorization are in use within the real-life biologist community's books.' Any thoughts from this project? (I will also copy this the Biology wikiproject) Kahuroa ( talk) 03:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Any ideas? I assume the genus is Nymphaea. It's from a botanical garden, so no idea on native region. Kaldari ( talk) 15:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm running up against my limitations in understanding with this newly named orchid, Ornithidium donaldeedodii. Can anyone help? The genus name redirects to another related genus, and I don't know why. It makes me doubt whether I got the information in the taxobox correct. Also, how "official" is the naming? Does it have to get more widely accepted, or is its first publishing in Lankesteriana enough to make it WP article-worthy? The article is technically long enough for a DYK, though just barely, and could use some more fluffing up. Thanks, First Light ( talk) 21:54, 29 April 2010 (UTC)