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Hi folks!
Is there a new (experimental) Wiki project, which allows to mark taxons with morphological data, and allows identifying taxons by these data. Please take a look at http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikispecies:Village_Pump#Florawiki.org Pipi69e ( talk) 14:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm fairly sure that File:Bee_balm.jpg is Monarda fistulosa not Monarda didyma based on (1) the color, (2) the length of the petioles (based on the illustration in my Peterson guide), (3) the white hairs [1], and (4) the lack of red bracts at the base of the inflorescence. By comparison, a photo which I believe to be M. didyma is here. The reason I'm asking here rather than just fixing it is that I'm not 100% sure that the diagnostic characters I'm using are reliable. There also exist M. clinopodia and about a dozen less common species, which I haven't made a particularly serious attempt to rule out. Kingdon ( talk) 12:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
[fromthe archive] Rich Farmbrough, 15:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC). There seems to be a bit of confusion when it comes to sorting scientific names in genus categories. Here are some examples:
It would be nice to have consistency within and between categories. Any thoughts? Melburnian ( talk) 03:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
These are easy enough to fix, I am doing Category:Abies as a sample, and am happy to do them all if there are no objections. Rich Farmbrough, 15:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC).
Anybody want to write up something about the nomenclatural mess surrounding this, Q. montana and Q. michauxii? I'd do it myself, but I'm unwilling to do so without having seen the Committee's opinion on proposal 1683 regarding rejection of Q. prinus (Taxon 52(1):213-214, 2005)—my university only subscribe to JSTOR for Taxon, as they have the paper copies, and report 57 (Taxon 56(2):590-594, 2007) is not free content). Circeus ( talk) 21:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I have attempted to de-orphan the article Cryptospores by adding links to it from the pages Spores, Paleobotany, and Evolutionary history of plants. The page Fossils also links to Cryptospores. I would appreciate it if someone would review these edits and work them in a more appropriate manner if necessary. Thanks, -- Sophitessa ( talk) 06:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I came across Youtan Poluo while working on WP:DEP, and this could use an expert eye. There are just enough hits on the internet that it's not a hoax (at least, not on the part of the author), but zero hits on gscholar and gbooks make me suspicious. Is this already under another name and just needs a redirect? Is it really that obscure? Thanks!-- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:56, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Since the ArticleAlertBot is dead, I thought I should drop a mention here that Banksia prionotes is at WP:FAC. Hesperian 12:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
It took me a while, but I'm finished with this list. There's still quite a few redlinks toward the bottom of the page. I suspect many of those just need to be redirects. I'll create a few, probably later today. Cheers, Rkitko ( talk) 15:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I can't recall the last time someone requested a project-internal evaluation of an article for "A" status, so I'm not quite sure what this request should look like. The article on Buxbaumia is currently a nominee for GA, but that process is now taking a month or more, and doesn't always end happily anyway. So, I'd like to gather opinions on the quality of the article I assembled on this weird little genus of mosses. In particular, does it meet the requirements to be rated an "A"? If not, then please suggest improvements. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 01:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi all, I am pumping this up for DYK (cntrl-F to find on the T:TDYK board), I didn't intiially think of it as I figured it would surely have something bigger than a stub, but it didn't/hasn't so I am buffing it. I am not hugely familiar with non-oz plants. If anyone has any background on the taxonomy and how the names got sorted I'd be hugely appreciative. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 05:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Our large, active and accomplished (60 articles Featured/Good) WikiProject desperately needs a WikiProject barnstar. Please will someone make one & put it up for public adulation and brickbats? AshLin ( talk) 11:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
hehehe, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 07:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll see about doinfg something with one of those:
Circeus ( talk) 00:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I just discovered that if you type "adnation" into the search box and hit Go, you'll be presented with search results consisting of two articles, one of which contains the word "bingo-fest". Hesperian 13:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
At times I have tried to do something constructive about Conjoined twins and related articles, but I found them to be watchlisted by editors who seem determined to drive as many viewers as possible to those articles, by any means. I do understand where adnate and connate come in; medical authors sometimes use the terms, although not necessarily with any great precision. Medicine concerns one species, us, and our ordinary variation is rather limited, so when it is necessary to describe something out of the ordinary, vocabulary can be a challenge. I think this underlies much of the mess in the medical literature over Fetus in fetu. Even in peer reviewed journals, some authors write as if they believe any knobby whatnot qualifies as a fetus. It follows that they must also believe a fetus is a knobby whatnot. Ie, they have no knowledge of developmental biology. -- Una Smith ( talk) 06:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
FYI - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of horticulture and gardening books. I'd have added this to the main project page but didn't want to mess with the alertbot. Colonel Warden ( talk) 19:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I have noted and corrected a number of Imperial to Metric conversion errors on Wiki Plant articles. As an example, the article for the American Smoke Tree ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_tree) listed dimensions of 10 to 15 m (meters) in height. This would have converted to between 32 and 50 feet. The actual numbers should have been 3 to 5 meters and 10 to 15 feet. Clearly this is a significant conversion error and is, apparently, very common in Wiki Plant articles. My assumption is that contributors listed Imperial/US measures and subsequent editors (or a conversion bot?) added the "m" to reflect the Wiki's metric standard. In any event, I would suggest that all Wiki Plant articles be reviewed by their respective editors/maintainers for correct conversions. Additionally, I would suggest that both a primary Metric and a secondary Imperial measurement be listed, as there are still hundreds of millions of Wiki users who are familiar with Imperial/US measurements. (MOB)DeadMeat ( talk) 16:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 30 | ← | Archive 35 | Archive 36 | Archive 37 | Archive 38 | Archive 39 | Archive 40 |
Hi folks!
Is there a new (experimental) Wiki project, which allows to mark taxons with morphological data, and allows identifying taxons by these data. Please take a look at http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikispecies:Village_Pump#Florawiki.org Pipi69e ( talk) 14:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm fairly sure that File:Bee_balm.jpg is Monarda fistulosa not Monarda didyma based on (1) the color, (2) the length of the petioles (based on the illustration in my Peterson guide), (3) the white hairs [1], and (4) the lack of red bracts at the base of the inflorescence. By comparison, a photo which I believe to be M. didyma is here. The reason I'm asking here rather than just fixing it is that I'm not 100% sure that the diagnostic characters I'm using are reliable. There also exist M. clinopodia and about a dozen less common species, which I haven't made a particularly serious attempt to rule out. Kingdon ( talk) 12:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
[fromthe archive] Rich Farmbrough, 15:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC). There seems to be a bit of confusion when it comes to sorting scientific names in genus categories. Here are some examples:
It would be nice to have consistency within and between categories. Any thoughts? Melburnian ( talk) 03:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
These are easy enough to fix, I am doing Category:Abies as a sample, and am happy to do them all if there are no objections. Rich Farmbrough, 15:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC).
Anybody want to write up something about the nomenclatural mess surrounding this, Q. montana and Q. michauxii? I'd do it myself, but I'm unwilling to do so without having seen the Committee's opinion on proposal 1683 regarding rejection of Q. prinus (Taxon 52(1):213-214, 2005)—my university only subscribe to JSTOR for Taxon, as they have the paper copies, and report 57 (Taxon 56(2):590-594, 2007) is not free content). Circeus ( talk) 21:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I have attempted to de-orphan the article Cryptospores by adding links to it from the pages Spores, Paleobotany, and Evolutionary history of plants. The page Fossils also links to Cryptospores. I would appreciate it if someone would review these edits and work them in a more appropriate manner if necessary. Thanks, -- Sophitessa ( talk) 06:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I came across Youtan Poluo while working on WP:DEP, and this could use an expert eye. There are just enough hits on the internet that it's not a hoax (at least, not on the part of the author), but zero hits on gscholar and gbooks make me suspicious. Is this already under another name and just needs a redirect? Is it really that obscure? Thanks!-- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:56, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Since the ArticleAlertBot is dead, I thought I should drop a mention here that Banksia prionotes is at WP:FAC. Hesperian 12:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
It took me a while, but I'm finished with this list. There's still quite a few redlinks toward the bottom of the page. I suspect many of those just need to be redirects. I'll create a few, probably later today. Cheers, Rkitko ( talk) 15:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I can't recall the last time someone requested a project-internal evaluation of an article for "A" status, so I'm not quite sure what this request should look like. The article on Buxbaumia is currently a nominee for GA, but that process is now taking a month or more, and doesn't always end happily anyway. So, I'd like to gather opinions on the quality of the article I assembled on this weird little genus of mosses. In particular, does it meet the requirements to be rated an "A"? If not, then please suggest improvements. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 01:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi all, I am pumping this up for DYK (cntrl-F to find on the T:TDYK board), I didn't intiially think of it as I figured it would surely have something bigger than a stub, but it didn't/hasn't so I am buffing it. I am not hugely familiar with non-oz plants. If anyone has any background on the taxonomy and how the names got sorted I'd be hugely appreciative. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 05:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Our large, active and accomplished (60 articles Featured/Good) WikiProject desperately needs a WikiProject barnstar. Please will someone make one & put it up for public adulation and brickbats? AshLin ( talk) 11:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
hehehe, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 07:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll see about doinfg something with one of those:
Circeus ( talk) 00:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I just discovered that if you type "adnation" into the search box and hit Go, you'll be presented with search results consisting of two articles, one of which contains the word "bingo-fest". Hesperian 13:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
At times I have tried to do something constructive about Conjoined twins and related articles, but I found them to be watchlisted by editors who seem determined to drive as many viewers as possible to those articles, by any means. I do understand where adnate and connate come in; medical authors sometimes use the terms, although not necessarily with any great precision. Medicine concerns one species, us, and our ordinary variation is rather limited, so when it is necessary to describe something out of the ordinary, vocabulary can be a challenge. I think this underlies much of the mess in the medical literature over Fetus in fetu. Even in peer reviewed journals, some authors write as if they believe any knobby whatnot qualifies as a fetus. It follows that they must also believe a fetus is a knobby whatnot. Ie, they have no knowledge of developmental biology. -- Una Smith ( talk) 06:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
FYI - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of horticulture and gardening books. I'd have added this to the main project page but didn't want to mess with the alertbot. Colonel Warden ( talk) 19:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I have noted and corrected a number of Imperial to Metric conversion errors on Wiki Plant articles. As an example, the article for the American Smoke Tree ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_tree) listed dimensions of 10 to 15 m (meters) in height. This would have converted to between 32 and 50 feet. The actual numbers should have been 3 to 5 meters and 10 to 15 feet. Clearly this is a significant conversion error and is, apparently, very common in Wiki Plant articles. My assumption is that contributors listed Imperial/US measures and subsequent editors (or a conversion bot?) added the "m" to reflect the Wiki's metric standard. In any event, I would suggest that all Wiki Plant articles be reviewed by their respective editors/maintainers for correct conversions. Additionally, I would suggest that both a primary Metric and a secondary Imperial measurement be listed, as there are still hundreds of millions of Wiki users who are familiar with Imperial/US measurements. (MOB)DeadMeat ( talk) 16:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)