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Julia Lezhneva: I just found her by searching for Litanies (Mozart), - not an encyclopedic article. Anybody for pruning? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:47, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
February is Black History Month in the U.S. Any suggestions? - kosboot ( talk) 02:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Follow-up. I've made the following Operas of the Month for February:
For the February Composers of the Month, I've listed three Italians whose works were performed at La Scala in the 19th century. They are all red-linked but have articles on the Italian and/or German WPs. Voceditenore ( talk) 09:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
No sooner had the lovely
Carolina Crespi appeared on the front page when a vandal nominated her for speedy deletion as an attack page
[2] (along with
dozens of other articles)
. He's blocked now. Onwards and upwards.
Voceditenore (
talk)
17:44, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
I've been told that "bootlegs" is the current preferred term for what we used to call "pirates." I had lunch with a long-time record collector and we were going over well-known and less-known bootleggers. In terms of opera, it seems to me this is a serious lacuna because these bootlegs sometimes had a significant impact on the opera world. I recall reading an article (by Alan Rich in New York Magazine, from the early 1970s) in which he claimed that Leyla Gencer's career was significantly boosted by bootlegs. He also suggested that a number of operas received revivals because of the existence of bootlegs. The problem is that because this stuff was underground it rarely received coverage. With the exception of that Rich article (which was exclusively about bootlegs), I can't recall much coverage of this aspect of opera except in the obituaries of the bootleggers themselves.
Here's some examples of the people and the labels involved:
Then there were others whom I don't know the owners: BJF, Penzance, MRF, etc. Any thoughts on such an article (or articles)? - kosboot ( talk) 19:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
I confess I never looked at Joan Sutherland, thinking I heard and read enough, but now discovered a fat tag on top. Can we write it neutrally enough to get rid of that? - She will be mentioned on DYK in 3 days, on a collegue's 75th birthday. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:03, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Michael Bednarek solved that one! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:18, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Messa_di_voce This article is very incomplete--it mentions "messa di voce" only as an "advanced vocal technique" rather than as a standard way of singing, of articulating notes in baroque and classical music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.72.71.182 ( talk) 22:03, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Comments are appreciated at this AFD. The article is an unsourced opera article. I have no idea if sources are available for this topic. 4meter4 ( talk) 02:44, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Tutti ti vogliono, tutti ti chiedono!
Only every four years can we wish him happy birthday on his real birthday. Voceditenore ( talk) 07:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Over 9000 views for Agrippina (opera) last Saturday when it was broadcast from the Met and shown live in HD in cinemas worldwide!!! Amazing! People turn to WP to help their enjoyment of operas they are going to see and hear. That is what got me involved as a WP editor some years ago, a lot of the Handel opera articles were very very poor, I could see that people were coming for information and their needs were not being met. Things are better now, thanks and hugs to my fellow collaborators on WikiProject Opera! Smeat75 ( talk) 02:18, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
I have noticed the recent addition of links to website historyofthetenor.com in the following list of contributions. Is anyone familiar with this website and able to comment on its notability (and indeed the suitability of linking to its singer profiles in the EL sections of multiple opera-related articles)? Thank you. Toccata quarta ( talk) 18:14, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
In 1989 my late father Sydney Barker created a unique survey to cover The History of The Tenor. 10 years ago I converted it from cassette tape to digital and created a website for it. It was over 2,500 minutes of content. The site categorizes all the great tenors of the 20th century. The information within is a treasure trove of knowledge on the subject and I was delighted to share it with the world. I personally do not follow Opera, the site is non-commercial, has no advertising or purchase options and only a simple feedback contact page. It was designed for academic and educational purposes for opera loves and to give the world a better understanding of the opera singers, developed purely as a unique encyclopedic tenor reference source. 10 years ago, I added many of the performers to Wikipedia. Recently I upgraded the website and the URL’s had changed and some additional artists had been added. So when completely updated I went back to each link to update and add those artists that were missed the first time around. This triggered an admin audit. My desire is to keep the links updated and add value to the subject and content of the program. There is no personal gain from this site – it is purely informational. It has remained the same format for over 10 years. I have had many feedback emails thanking me for making the site for Opera lovers, none that have been negative. I ask for the current links to be updated so users can go to the new updated URL instead of a dead link and that the information within can be kept updated. I thank the community for the time taken to review. I am a sensitive to the importance of the quality data the program provides and only wish to abide by the rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerrybarker ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
This tells me that Anatoli Mokrenko recorded the role Harald in an opera by a composer whose name begins with "Ma". I don't have access to the previous page. Help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Just discovered this unreferenced blp. Not sure if she would pass WP:N. 4meter4 ( talk) 22:46, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
An email from the head of RILM:
As the impact from COVID-19 grows daily, affecting libraries, teachers, students, and other music researchers, RILM is offering temporary access for non-subscribing institutions to the following full-text resources until 31 May 2020:
- RILM Music Encyclopedias - a virtual reference shelf of 57 encyclopedias
- MGG Online - the digital music encyclopedia
To receive institutional access to RILM Music Encyclopedias and MGG Online on Egret, the RILM platform, please email subscriptions -at- rilm.org. This offer is for institutions. Individuals interested in these resources are encouraged to get in touch with their nearest library, which can register for this offer. All RILM resources are available for unlimited use by authorized users and can be accessed remotely.
RILM Music Encyclopedias includes a fully-digitized version of Kutsch/Riemens Großes Sängerlexikon which, although it has errors, still is a great source of information. And if you don't read German, simply copy the text and paste into Google Translate. -- kosboot ( talk) 22:54, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dorothea_Nicolai. -- OrestesLebt ( talk) 17:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
If this note reaches anyone in time, check this out. It's streaming, filmed live, for free, starring Karita Matilla, for the next 10 hours, at https://sfopera.com/opera-is-on/streaming/#streaming. -- Softlavender ( talk) 09:19, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
We also don't have an article on character tenor . -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
also: please watch Gösta Winbergh for a fan adding unsourced pov. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
now added a third time, - while I explained on their talk. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
enWP doesn't seem to have an article on the main opera house in Firenze, used for the majority of all opera performances in the season and in the festival since 2014. it: Teatro del Maggio Musicale Fiorentino.
The gnome called Scarabocchio ( talk) 14:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
The RfC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility#RfC on table captions will most likely end with a recommendation that all tables should have captions (see also MOS:DTAB and MOS:TABLECAPTION). This has implications for almost all articles on operas that contain a table of roles as recommended in the project's style guide. I copied this note for further discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Article styles and formats#Roles table. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 02:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Now launched at WP:VPT#RfC: should the "Authority control" template continue to include MusicBrainz identifiers?. -- Francis Schonken ( talk) 07:34, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone from WP:OPERA would mind taking a look at this article. There seem to be a number of issues ( WP:PUFFERY, questionable referencing, excessive external linking, etc.) that may need addressing. I came across the article via WP:THQ#Fair use picture status and noticed that there are quite a number of links to YouTube being cited as references. This is not automatically a bad thing per se, except in this case the links are actually more external links formatted as citations than actual citations to reliable sources and many of them are not really OK regardless per WP:ELNEVER. So, I asked Beetstra, who's quite experienced in dealing with external links, about this and he pointed out quite a number of other issues with the article as well. I'm not very familiar with opera or opera singers and while I can work on cleaning up the links, etc., it would probably be better if someone more familiar with the subject matter took a crack at re-writing anything that needs to be rewritten or some of the other cleanup. So, any feedback or suggestions on how to best proceed would be most appreciated. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 05:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Longtime Wikipedian contributor who is a part of this WikiProject, User:Meladina (and later went by User:Dmitrismirnov), died from complications after contracting COVID-19. His Wikipedia page, Dmitri Smirov, has been updated to reflect his unfortunate passing. Deep sympathies to his family and friends who have lost a great person. FunksBrother ( talk) 18:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
In the context: The Devil in Love (opera) is one of the articles Smirnov began (then User:Meladina). He also took a pic of its composer, Alexander Vustin, who also recently died, possibly also from COVID19 (official Russian says pneunomia). When I began expanding the opera, I found that - while the articles still said it wasn't performed yet - it was actually premiered last year, in Moscow. While the article said 3 acts, the production made it 2. Help wanted - as I don't read Russian: roles and performers? Review? Possibly articles on librettist and book author in Russian? How much plot should we take from the book, where I see pages 213 and 214, but miss some before and after. Same question for characteristic instruments mentioned there? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
In memory of Brian Boulton, I nominated "his" Monteverdi for TFA on his birthday, with good success in terms of views. Aza24 proposed to make his operas a featured topic, - thoughts? The same day, the Main page had more operatic links, Hans Herbert Jöris, with an opera and a theatre, Franz Klarwein with a theatre and two operas, and Gabriel Bacquier, to connect to the header. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:11, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Some attention to this article is needed. It’s a blp with hardly any referencing, and the article has some unflattering comments of both a professional and personal nature that would be fine if sourced but they are not. There is also some mention on the talk page of copy pasting problems which I am not sure if they were ever addressed. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 23:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh dear. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Opera_(magazine)&redirect=no
Scarabocchio ( talk) 08:22, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
I would suggest re-moving it to Opera (opera magazine) since it is not about the performing arts, only opera. The present title is therefore incorrect and misleading. -- Smerus ( talk) 13:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC).
moved back to Opera (magazine) – which is where it should be if a WP:RM is held to move it elsewhere. I don't think such RM is necessary, for the current applicable guidance at WP:PDABPRIMARY, but the page should not be moved to a rather extraneous title (I mean, with an extraneous three-word disambiguator), nor anywhere else, without RM. -- Francis Schonken ( talk) 05:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
The Opera Corpus (and a couple of alternate capitalisations) which all target List of operas by composer have been nominated at RfD. Input from members of this project (which uses the redirect on the main project page) would be useful - please leave comments at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 10#The Opera Corpus to keep discussion in one place. Thryduulf ( talk) 21:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Richard Tucker was moved to Richard Tucker (tenor). I believe he is the primary topic. What do others think? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:50, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I tried to help the editor of Dragana Radakovic but we seem to speak different languages. Help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
A great singer died, Mady Mesplé, the Lakmé of her time, stratospheric coloratura, chose by Boulez for performances of Schoenberg. I would like to see her mentioned on the Main page, - a closer match of references and facts is desirable. Unfortunately, her page in Großes Sängerlexikon is not visible online to me. Anybody? Good obit in French, - not my language. Anybody? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I have tried to keep the "recordings" sections or articles updated as the years have gone along on Handel, Verdi, Meyerbeer and Offenbach operas. In the last few days I have been updating Rossini and Bellini opera recordings and am rather shocked that no one seems to have done so for about five years. Next I will do what I can with Donizetti operas. I haven't even looked at Puccini, Mozart, R Strauss, Wagner recording sections and am unlikely to do so. Badly needs people to try to keep discographies up to date. Or maybe we shouldn't pretend that they are comprehensive and mark them all "selected recordings"? Because from what I can tell many many of them are not really discographies in the sense of complete lists of available recordings at all. Smeat75 ( talk) 00:24, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
What d'ye think of these? https://gallica.bnf.fr/services/engine/search/sru?operation=searchRetrieve&version=1.2&startRecord=0&maximumRecords=15&page=1&query=%28gallica%20all%20%22bacchus%20massenet%22%29&filter=dc.type%20all%20%22image%22
Each of them has a ton of options, so we'd need to choose which we'd want, and it WOULD be nice to have a plot summary of Bacchus before we added a set design gallery, but... well, worth mentioning. Also, there's some nifty surviving costume bits, of which this is probably the most impressive (and the BnF's release of the photos into public domain is nice) Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.2% of all FPs 16:28, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Quite happy with the new image I found for the opera. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.2% of all FPs 20:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Just want to let this project know that I have restored List of operettas as an article/list. Please see the respective edit for the explanation. Members of this project are encouraged to edit/update the page. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:45, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Since there have been tens of thousands of productions of Porgy and Bess and only 9 are included in the performance history section, I will leave it to the experts here to evaluate whether the 2019-2020 production that I watched on PBS last night belongs in that section. I started researching it myself and realized that it was produced at the English National Opera, Dutch National Opera and Metropolitan Opera (and maybe other subsequent venues). A Met performance was filmed and aired. Although it is considered a tour of a production, it seems that each country has a different cast. There is sufficient PD content from WP:RS to write about the Met performance, but as part of a tour, with varying casts, I am not sure if it rises to the proper level of significance/notability to deserve to be the tenth section of the performance history. I am not able to source the English and Dutch productions very well. If you have an opinion on whether it belongs, please add a subsection or at least comment here.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:46, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Would any Francophones be up to ading a plot summary? The original program with plot summary is available, and https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8405793p.r=Bacchus%20Massenet?rk=107296;4 might help add some information as well.
If it goes well, there's a near-complete set of set designs that could bulk out the article nicely. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 08:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Just updated our FP list at the top of the page. I'm not sure if I missed any in the gap, but I'm glad to see some movement on that again, and with La bohème, Les Huguenots, and Gismonda up for voting right now, we should see it move a lot more in the next week or so. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 17:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Any requests, by the way? I have some gaps in availability - French operas are generally the easiest to get hold of since the BnF has control of the libraries of multiple Paris opera houses, and puts them online - but I'll do my best. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 23:59, 17 July 2020 (UTC) In the meantime....
to upload: ::* [10]
For some reason an editor has recently demanded that this article be expanded using the French article, placing one of those notes at the top. The English one has a decent amount of text, a photo and six references; the French has slightly more text, two photos and no references but one very old French source. Can we just delete this box at the top and go back to what was a helpful and quite harmless article? Cg2p0B0u8m ( talk) 20:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
There's a discussion going on at Talk:Melbourne Opera between myself and another contributor about whether the article should note that Melbourne Opera is semi-professional, as it is commonly described in independent references given its chorus is unpaid/amateur (and, although I don't have knowledge, may have other volunteer positions). Feel free to chime in. Boneymau ( talk) 04:04, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
In the effort to make Monteverdi's operas a featured topic, Aza24 added to the infobox. See L'incoronazione di Poppea and talk. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Operas by Claudio Monteverdi/archive1, review welcome. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:51, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Monteverdi's operas are now a featured topic! ... on the day 10 years after both Brian and I were declared awesome ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
I was just informed that there's a campaign m:Wiki Loves Fashion set up by WikiDonne, a group of women from Italy. Perhaps it might be an opportune time to create and enhance articles on costume designers. - kosboot ( talk) 01:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Claudio Monteverdi (1567–1643) composed ten operas, a genre that emerged while he was a court musician in Mantua. His first opera, L'Orfeo, premiered in 1607 and became the first opera still in today's repertoire. The music for seven of his opera projects is mostly lost. Four of these were completed and performed, while he abandoned the others at some point. Libretti have survived for some of them, as well as fragments of the music for L'Arianna and Proserpina rapita. Monteverdi composed operas for a theatre in Venice when he was master of music at San Marco, including Il ritorno d'Ulisse in patria in 1640 and L'incoronazione di Poppea in 1643, both of which also remain in the repertoire. ( This list is part of a featured topic: Operas by Claudio Monteverdi.)
in memory of Brian Boulton. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:51, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Mathis der Maler is an opera by Hindemith. Mathis der Maler redirects now (that I made it so) to Mathis der Maler (opera) , so far it redirected to Symphony: Mathis der Maler, a composition related to the opera. That probably has some historic reason. What I'd prefer is
Discuss, please. Mathis der Maler could also be a redirect to Matthias Grünewald, the title role, but why. ---- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:58, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Looking closer: the reason may be that the symphony came first, but I looked at the links: all but two meant the opera. (Please check, I make mistakes.) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:11, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
There is a discussion on this topic at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers#Navboxes etc to which contributions are most cordially invited from readers of this page. Tim riley talk 09:12, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Should we lose the infoboxes? I just discovered they're being stripped in the mobile version, eating up images. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.5% of all FPs 00:52, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
See here for some of them, for example: WP:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 September 28. -- Softlavender ( talk) 14:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
The native traditional art form is not a sub-genre of opera. The category of "Taiwanese opera singers" should be about opera singers of Taiwanese nationality, not about "singers that perform in Taiwanese opera" as it was. I've just moved all the pages to the new category of "Singers of Taiwanese opera".
The category of "Chinese opera singers" has the same issue, except that it contains a category called "Chinese contemporary classical opera singers", which should be the intended aim of the category. ---- Seanetienne ( talk) 10:29, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Finnish National Opera's Covid fan tutte, starring Karita Mattila, is now available free online with English subtitles [14]. I've watched 11 minutes so far and it's hilarious. Recommended. Softlavender ( talk) 12:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I am right in thinking that - although her image is from the Ricordi archive and quite worth doing - she has no real connection to opera so her photograph shouldn't be added into the Portal, nor the Opera FP rotation at the top of this page? Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 22:39, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Alexander Alexeev (conductor) - this conductor died, and I can't find much, which comes as a surprise for someone who worked with the composer on a production of Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District (opera) as the article says without a reference. It doesn't help that at least a double bass player, a tenor and a physicist come by the same name, and his worldcat entry is under Aleksandr Alekseev. Help, - anybody reading Russian? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Well, I used a translator for the Russian, and the key message is "The information about the farewell will be posted additionally." Let's watch out for that. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Discussion here. Voceditenore ( talk) 09:46, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't normally do articles much, but an opera singer who created a lead role of an opera still performed, and didn't have an article seemed odd. If anyone wants to expand more, feel free. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 02:03, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
I've put this in various relevant articles, but I'd appreciate if people would check my work. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 02:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
The article on this prestigious opera school in Philadelphia was just deleted without an AFD as promotional by @ Seraphimblade:. I created that article as a stub years ago, at which time it was not self-promotional. I haven’t looked at it in some time, so I cannot comment on the state it was in at the time of its recent deletion. Considering the school has many famous alumni, such as Joyce DiDonato, it’s a sad loss for our content area. 4meter4 ( talk) 00:20, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
a prominent member of Philadelphia society("prominent" is puff),
where talented singers could receive highest quality training("talented" and "highest quality" according to what reliable and independent reference?),
For more than six decades, gifted singers have come from throughout the world to seek the exceptional guidance("gifted" and "exceptional" according to what reliable and independent reference?). That is totally inappropriate promotional content; articles must be written neutrally and never "talk up" anyone or anything or use peacock terms. If you think you can write it appropriately with your experience now, I'd be willing to draftify and stub it, but "prominent", "talented", "highest quality", "gifted", "exceptional", etc., will need to stay right out of it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:30, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marjon Lambriks -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:24, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Template:GroveMusic has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the entry on the Templates for discussion page.
Rosl Zapf's articles says that she appeared in Henze first staged works, but I can't find a source, - help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:09, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
See current discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/France and French-related articles#Proposed simplification of MOS:FRENCHCAPS, which is more than a decade outdated. Please discuss there, not here. -- Francis Schonken ( talk) 08:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
... for the fact "In the 1965/66 season,
Rosl Zapf appeared in the first staged performance of the radio operas
Das Ende einer Welt (as Marchesa) and
Ein Landarzt (as the Mother) by
Hans Werner Henze at the
Oper Frankfurt". The Henze site doesn't have performers only
date of premiere as a double bill on 30 November 1965, - "Besetzung" only has the roles, not the performers. It was the time when Solti was GMD a conductor, but
Rennert concucted this one. There are two singers named in our Landarzt article, but I have no access to where they com from. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
08:43, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Been a bit slow to update the list of 'em at the top. Have moved in the three latest (well, La bohème technically is a few hours from passing, but one must finish up on Wikipedia for the year at some point.) Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 07:31, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Bragging, perhaps, but I'm starting to get more and more pleased at how this is coming along. It's a very difficult image to work with. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 20:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Resolved. I made the pic larger, and if others feel that it's still too small, they can fix it. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:21, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Jerome Kohl, as you could read in the DYK section earlier today, was a music theorist, known internationally as an expert in the music of Karlheinz Stockhausen. As a Wikipedia editor, he handled that topic almost alone, including the giant opera cycle Licht. Let's watch the articles, - it's quite a legacy. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:39, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Amazing the articles we didn't have ... Ser Amantio di Nicolao created in his edit No. 4.000.000 Dorothée Manski ( pictured, the Witch of the Met (Hänsel und Gretel), seems her signature role, although she was Isolde in Salzburg also. Question: where does the é come from which I see only in WorldCat and such, but no source, - born Dorothea, international name Dorothee. What should our article title be? Next question: she seems to have escaped Nazi Germany early (before it officially started) to the U.S., but I read that so far only in her husband's article (in German). Any other source? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:22, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Conservatorio di Santa Cecilia is the conservatory under the auspices of the Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia. The Accademia is the umbrella institute, not the school, therefore, the alumni / faculty categories should be named after the Conservatoiro, not the Accademia itself. Once agreed, I'll propose the renaming to the "Categories for discussion". And perhaps the redirect should be expanded into an article as well. Seanetienne ( talk) 14:33, 30 December 2020 (UTC) edited Seanetienne ( talk) 14:08, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
The categories "Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia Alumni" and "Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia Faculty" should not be merged with those of the Conservatorio di Santa Cecilia. The Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia is a completely different school to the Conservatorio di Santa Cecilia. The Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia only accepts graduate students who have completed their "conservatorio" training. The Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia only offers "corsi di perfezionamento", or post graduate courses, unlike the Conservatorio di Santa Cecilia, which only offers undergraduate courses. The Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia is a school in its own right, with totally separate, exclusively postgraduate courses.See https://santacecilia.it/alta-formazione/corsi-di-perfezionamento/]] [1]
This is my attempt at separating the two. Seanetienne ( talk) 09:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Opera Scotland is currently a REDIRECT to Scottish Opera. They are different organizations ( http://www.operascotland.org/ and https://www.scottishopera.org.uk/). Creating that REDIRECT was a mistake. Either someone writes an article about Opera Scotland, or that REDIRECT should be speedily deleted under WP:R3, or proposed for deletion at WP:RFD under WP:RFD#DELETE #10. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 01:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
User:Pigsonthewing has nominated several opera related templates currently in use for deletion. (see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion) I have no problem with the proposed deletions if they are replaced with a suitable template at the bottom of the article as suggested. However, it doesn't look like the nominator actually bothered to create the replacement templates. Some help making sure we don't lose an appropriate opera navbox would be appreciated. 4meter4 ( talk) 19:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
As soon as Template:Handel was deleted today, a user who is not a project member applied its image of the composer on top of all his works which still had the template. I changed it to an image related to the opera for the two featured articles, Rinaldo and Agrippina, where the portrayed Handel looks way too old. I'd prefer infoboxes for all works, - compare Messiah. What do others think? - P.S. While I typed this, the image was returned to Rinaldo, in a second position. I think it's misleading. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Can we say something about the selection of a lead image for an opera? (Perhaps we have it, and I just don't know?)
On all accounts, there seems to be no room for an image of a middle-aged Handel in his youthful work Rinaldo, at all. If the doubtful image of a young Handel should be used, then in the history section, with a proper caption that it is doubtful. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:28, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
A discussion on Classical music about a proposal for a new design of its project page made me look at "ours" here, and made me aware of several red links. I think the wording about the sidebar should reflect that it is no longer a preferred option. At this point, we might drop it altogether, it seems. Yes, I know I said this before ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Miscellaneous opera character redirects to lists has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. - BRAINULATOR9 ( TALK) 02:16, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Idly leafing (as one does) through the libretto of Pelopida, the dramma per musica of Girolamo Abos and Gaetano Roccaforte, premiered during carnival 1747 at the Teatro Argentina in Rome, I found two surprising items.
Firstly, a disclaimer that, despite the opera involving Fate and numi, the author is a good catholic. Authors apologising for their plot lines is not usual.
Secondly, credits to the costume designer and to the tailor. I know that this is Italy, home to la moda, but this was 1747!
Scarabocchio ( talk) 05:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
DYK ... that Matthias Hölle, a regular bass singer at the Bayreuth Festival, appeared in the world premieres of Stockhausen's Donnerstag aus Licht and Samstag aus Licht at La Scala in Milan?
This was planned as a greeting to Jerome Kohl, and became a memorial. He wrote practically everything we know about Licht and Stockhausen's music, - a legacy. --
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Julia Lezhneva: I just found her by searching for Litanies (Mozart), - not an encyclopedic article. Anybody for pruning? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:47, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
February is Black History Month in the U.S. Any suggestions? - kosboot ( talk) 02:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Follow-up. I've made the following Operas of the Month for February:
For the February Composers of the Month, I've listed three Italians whose works were performed at La Scala in the 19th century. They are all red-linked but have articles on the Italian and/or German WPs. Voceditenore ( talk) 09:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
No sooner had the lovely
Carolina Crespi appeared on the front page when a vandal nominated her for speedy deletion as an attack page
[2] (along with
dozens of other articles)
. He's blocked now. Onwards and upwards.
Voceditenore (
talk)
17:44, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
I've been told that "bootlegs" is the current preferred term for what we used to call "pirates." I had lunch with a long-time record collector and we were going over well-known and less-known bootleggers. In terms of opera, it seems to me this is a serious lacuna because these bootlegs sometimes had a significant impact on the opera world. I recall reading an article (by Alan Rich in New York Magazine, from the early 1970s) in which he claimed that Leyla Gencer's career was significantly boosted by bootlegs. He also suggested that a number of operas received revivals because of the existence of bootlegs. The problem is that because this stuff was underground it rarely received coverage. With the exception of that Rich article (which was exclusively about bootlegs), I can't recall much coverage of this aspect of opera except in the obituaries of the bootleggers themselves.
Here's some examples of the people and the labels involved:
Then there were others whom I don't know the owners: BJF, Penzance, MRF, etc. Any thoughts on such an article (or articles)? - kosboot ( talk) 19:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
I confess I never looked at Joan Sutherland, thinking I heard and read enough, but now discovered a fat tag on top. Can we write it neutrally enough to get rid of that? - She will be mentioned on DYK in 3 days, on a collegue's 75th birthday. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:03, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Michael Bednarek solved that one! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:18, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Messa_di_voce This article is very incomplete--it mentions "messa di voce" only as an "advanced vocal technique" rather than as a standard way of singing, of articulating notes in baroque and classical music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.72.71.182 ( talk) 22:03, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Comments are appreciated at this AFD. The article is an unsourced opera article. I have no idea if sources are available for this topic. 4meter4 ( talk) 02:44, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Tutti ti vogliono, tutti ti chiedono!
Only every four years can we wish him happy birthday on his real birthday. Voceditenore ( talk) 07:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Over 9000 views for Agrippina (opera) last Saturday when it was broadcast from the Met and shown live in HD in cinemas worldwide!!! Amazing! People turn to WP to help their enjoyment of operas they are going to see and hear. That is what got me involved as a WP editor some years ago, a lot of the Handel opera articles were very very poor, I could see that people were coming for information and their needs were not being met. Things are better now, thanks and hugs to my fellow collaborators on WikiProject Opera! Smeat75 ( talk) 02:18, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
I have noticed the recent addition of links to website historyofthetenor.com in the following list of contributions. Is anyone familiar with this website and able to comment on its notability (and indeed the suitability of linking to its singer profiles in the EL sections of multiple opera-related articles)? Thank you. Toccata quarta ( talk) 18:14, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
In 1989 my late father Sydney Barker created a unique survey to cover The History of The Tenor. 10 years ago I converted it from cassette tape to digital and created a website for it. It was over 2,500 minutes of content. The site categorizes all the great tenors of the 20th century. The information within is a treasure trove of knowledge on the subject and I was delighted to share it with the world. I personally do not follow Opera, the site is non-commercial, has no advertising or purchase options and only a simple feedback contact page. It was designed for academic and educational purposes for opera loves and to give the world a better understanding of the opera singers, developed purely as a unique encyclopedic tenor reference source. 10 years ago, I added many of the performers to Wikipedia. Recently I upgraded the website and the URL’s had changed and some additional artists had been added. So when completely updated I went back to each link to update and add those artists that were missed the first time around. This triggered an admin audit. My desire is to keep the links updated and add value to the subject and content of the program. There is no personal gain from this site – it is purely informational. It has remained the same format for over 10 years. I have had many feedback emails thanking me for making the site for Opera lovers, none that have been negative. I ask for the current links to be updated so users can go to the new updated URL instead of a dead link and that the information within can be kept updated. I thank the community for the time taken to review. I am a sensitive to the importance of the quality data the program provides and only wish to abide by the rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerrybarker ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
This tells me that Anatoli Mokrenko recorded the role Harald in an opera by a composer whose name begins with "Ma". I don't have access to the previous page. Help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Just discovered this unreferenced blp. Not sure if she would pass WP:N. 4meter4 ( talk) 22:46, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
An email from the head of RILM:
As the impact from COVID-19 grows daily, affecting libraries, teachers, students, and other music researchers, RILM is offering temporary access for non-subscribing institutions to the following full-text resources until 31 May 2020:
- RILM Music Encyclopedias - a virtual reference shelf of 57 encyclopedias
- MGG Online - the digital music encyclopedia
To receive institutional access to RILM Music Encyclopedias and MGG Online on Egret, the RILM platform, please email subscriptions -at- rilm.org. This offer is for institutions. Individuals interested in these resources are encouraged to get in touch with their nearest library, which can register for this offer. All RILM resources are available for unlimited use by authorized users and can be accessed remotely.
RILM Music Encyclopedias includes a fully-digitized version of Kutsch/Riemens Großes Sängerlexikon which, although it has errors, still is a great source of information. And if you don't read German, simply copy the text and paste into Google Translate. -- kosboot ( talk) 22:54, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dorothea_Nicolai. -- OrestesLebt ( talk) 17:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
If this note reaches anyone in time, check this out. It's streaming, filmed live, for free, starring Karita Matilla, for the next 10 hours, at https://sfopera.com/opera-is-on/streaming/#streaming. -- Softlavender ( talk) 09:19, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
We also don't have an article on character tenor . -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
also: please watch Gösta Winbergh for a fan adding unsourced pov. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
now added a third time, - while I explained on their talk. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
enWP doesn't seem to have an article on the main opera house in Firenze, used for the majority of all opera performances in the season and in the festival since 2014. it: Teatro del Maggio Musicale Fiorentino.
The gnome called Scarabocchio ( talk) 14:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
The RfC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility#RfC on table captions will most likely end with a recommendation that all tables should have captions (see also MOS:DTAB and MOS:TABLECAPTION). This has implications for almost all articles on operas that contain a table of roles as recommended in the project's style guide. I copied this note for further discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Article styles and formats#Roles table. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 02:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Now launched at WP:VPT#RfC: should the "Authority control" template continue to include MusicBrainz identifiers?. -- Francis Schonken ( talk) 07:34, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone from WP:OPERA would mind taking a look at this article. There seem to be a number of issues ( WP:PUFFERY, questionable referencing, excessive external linking, etc.) that may need addressing. I came across the article via WP:THQ#Fair use picture status and noticed that there are quite a number of links to YouTube being cited as references. This is not automatically a bad thing per se, except in this case the links are actually more external links formatted as citations than actual citations to reliable sources and many of them are not really OK regardless per WP:ELNEVER. So, I asked Beetstra, who's quite experienced in dealing with external links, about this and he pointed out quite a number of other issues with the article as well. I'm not very familiar with opera or opera singers and while I can work on cleaning up the links, etc., it would probably be better if someone more familiar with the subject matter took a crack at re-writing anything that needs to be rewritten or some of the other cleanup. So, any feedback or suggestions on how to best proceed would be most appreciated. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 05:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Longtime Wikipedian contributor who is a part of this WikiProject, User:Meladina (and later went by User:Dmitrismirnov), died from complications after contracting COVID-19. His Wikipedia page, Dmitri Smirov, has been updated to reflect his unfortunate passing. Deep sympathies to his family and friends who have lost a great person. FunksBrother ( talk) 18:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
In the context: The Devil in Love (opera) is one of the articles Smirnov began (then User:Meladina). He also took a pic of its composer, Alexander Vustin, who also recently died, possibly also from COVID19 (official Russian says pneunomia). When I began expanding the opera, I found that - while the articles still said it wasn't performed yet - it was actually premiered last year, in Moscow. While the article said 3 acts, the production made it 2. Help wanted - as I don't read Russian: roles and performers? Review? Possibly articles on librettist and book author in Russian? How much plot should we take from the book, where I see pages 213 and 214, but miss some before and after. Same question for characteristic instruments mentioned there? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
In memory of Brian Boulton, I nominated "his" Monteverdi for TFA on his birthday, with good success in terms of views. Aza24 proposed to make his operas a featured topic, - thoughts? The same day, the Main page had more operatic links, Hans Herbert Jöris, with an opera and a theatre, Franz Klarwein with a theatre and two operas, and Gabriel Bacquier, to connect to the header. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:11, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Some attention to this article is needed. It’s a blp with hardly any referencing, and the article has some unflattering comments of both a professional and personal nature that would be fine if sourced but they are not. There is also some mention on the talk page of copy pasting problems which I am not sure if they were ever addressed. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 23:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh dear. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Opera_(magazine)&redirect=no
Scarabocchio ( talk) 08:22, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
I would suggest re-moving it to Opera (opera magazine) since it is not about the performing arts, only opera. The present title is therefore incorrect and misleading. -- Smerus ( talk) 13:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC).
moved back to Opera (magazine) – which is where it should be if a WP:RM is held to move it elsewhere. I don't think such RM is necessary, for the current applicable guidance at WP:PDABPRIMARY, but the page should not be moved to a rather extraneous title (I mean, with an extraneous three-word disambiguator), nor anywhere else, without RM. -- Francis Schonken ( talk) 05:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
The Opera Corpus (and a couple of alternate capitalisations) which all target List of operas by composer have been nominated at RfD. Input from members of this project (which uses the redirect on the main project page) would be useful - please leave comments at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 10#The Opera Corpus to keep discussion in one place. Thryduulf ( talk) 21:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Richard Tucker was moved to Richard Tucker (tenor). I believe he is the primary topic. What do others think? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:50, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I tried to help the editor of Dragana Radakovic but we seem to speak different languages. Help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
A great singer died, Mady Mesplé, the Lakmé of her time, stratospheric coloratura, chose by Boulez for performances of Schoenberg. I would like to see her mentioned on the Main page, - a closer match of references and facts is desirable. Unfortunately, her page in Großes Sängerlexikon is not visible online to me. Anybody? Good obit in French, - not my language. Anybody? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I have tried to keep the "recordings" sections or articles updated as the years have gone along on Handel, Verdi, Meyerbeer and Offenbach operas. In the last few days I have been updating Rossini and Bellini opera recordings and am rather shocked that no one seems to have done so for about five years. Next I will do what I can with Donizetti operas. I haven't even looked at Puccini, Mozart, R Strauss, Wagner recording sections and am unlikely to do so. Badly needs people to try to keep discographies up to date. Or maybe we shouldn't pretend that they are comprehensive and mark them all "selected recordings"? Because from what I can tell many many of them are not really discographies in the sense of complete lists of available recordings at all. Smeat75 ( talk) 00:24, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
What d'ye think of these? https://gallica.bnf.fr/services/engine/search/sru?operation=searchRetrieve&version=1.2&startRecord=0&maximumRecords=15&page=1&query=%28gallica%20all%20%22bacchus%20massenet%22%29&filter=dc.type%20all%20%22image%22
Each of them has a ton of options, so we'd need to choose which we'd want, and it WOULD be nice to have a plot summary of Bacchus before we added a set design gallery, but... well, worth mentioning. Also, there's some nifty surviving costume bits, of which this is probably the most impressive (and the BnF's release of the photos into public domain is nice) Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.2% of all FPs 16:28, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Quite happy with the new image I found for the opera. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.2% of all FPs 20:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Just want to let this project know that I have restored List of operettas as an article/list. Please see the respective edit for the explanation. Members of this project are encouraged to edit/update the page. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:45, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Since there have been tens of thousands of productions of Porgy and Bess and only 9 are included in the performance history section, I will leave it to the experts here to evaluate whether the 2019-2020 production that I watched on PBS last night belongs in that section. I started researching it myself and realized that it was produced at the English National Opera, Dutch National Opera and Metropolitan Opera (and maybe other subsequent venues). A Met performance was filmed and aired. Although it is considered a tour of a production, it seems that each country has a different cast. There is sufficient PD content from WP:RS to write about the Met performance, but as part of a tour, with varying casts, I am not sure if it rises to the proper level of significance/notability to deserve to be the tenth section of the performance history. I am not able to source the English and Dutch productions very well. If you have an opinion on whether it belongs, please add a subsection or at least comment here.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:46, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Would any Francophones be up to ading a plot summary? The original program with plot summary is available, and https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8405793p.r=Bacchus%20Massenet?rk=107296;4 might help add some information as well.
If it goes well, there's a near-complete set of set designs that could bulk out the article nicely. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 08:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Just updated our FP list at the top of the page. I'm not sure if I missed any in the gap, but I'm glad to see some movement on that again, and with La bohème, Les Huguenots, and Gismonda up for voting right now, we should see it move a lot more in the next week or so. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 17:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Any requests, by the way? I have some gaps in availability - French operas are generally the easiest to get hold of since the BnF has control of the libraries of multiple Paris opera houses, and puts them online - but I'll do my best. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 23:59, 17 July 2020 (UTC) In the meantime....
to upload: ::* [10]
For some reason an editor has recently demanded that this article be expanded using the French article, placing one of those notes at the top. The English one has a decent amount of text, a photo and six references; the French has slightly more text, two photos and no references but one very old French source. Can we just delete this box at the top and go back to what was a helpful and quite harmless article? Cg2p0B0u8m ( talk) 20:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
There's a discussion going on at Talk:Melbourne Opera between myself and another contributor about whether the article should note that Melbourne Opera is semi-professional, as it is commonly described in independent references given its chorus is unpaid/amateur (and, although I don't have knowledge, may have other volunteer positions). Feel free to chime in. Boneymau ( talk) 04:04, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
In the effort to make Monteverdi's operas a featured topic, Aza24 added to the infobox. See L'incoronazione di Poppea and talk. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Operas by Claudio Monteverdi/archive1, review welcome. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:51, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Monteverdi's operas are now a featured topic! ... on the day 10 years after both Brian and I were declared awesome ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
I was just informed that there's a campaign m:Wiki Loves Fashion set up by WikiDonne, a group of women from Italy. Perhaps it might be an opportune time to create and enhance articles on costume designers. - kosboot ( talk) 01:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Claudio Monteverdi (1567–1643) composed ten operas, a genre that emerged while he was a court musician in Mantua. His first opera, L'Orfeo, premiered in 1607 and became the first opera still in today's repertoire. The music for seven of his opera projects is mostly lost. Four of these were completed and performed, while he abandoned the others at some point. Libretti have survived for some of them, as well as fragments of the music for L'Arianna and Proserpina rapita. Monteverdi composed operas for a theatre in Venice when he was master of music at San Marco, including Il ritorno d'Ulisse in patria in 1640 and L'incoronazione di Poppea in 1643, both of which also remain in the repertoire. ( This list is part of a featured topic: Operas by Claudio Monteverdi.)
in memory of Brian Boulton. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:51, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Mathis der Maler is an opera by Hindemith. Mathis der Maler redirects now (that I made it so) to Mathis der Maler (opera) , so far it redirected to Symphony: Mathis der Maler, a composition related to the opera. That probably has some historic reason. What I'd prefer is
Discuss, please. Mathis der Maler could also be a redirect to Matthias Grünewald, the title role, but why. ---- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:58, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Looking closer: the reason may be that the symphony came first, but I looked at the links: all but two meant the opera. (Please check, I make mistakes.) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:11, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
There is a discussion on this topic at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers#Navboxes etc to which contributions are most cordially invited from readers of this page. Tim riley talk 09:12, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Should we lose the infoboxes? I just discovered they're being stripped in the mobile version, eating up images. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.5% of all FPs 00:52, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
See here for some of them, for example: WP:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 September 28. -- Softlavender ( talk) 14:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
The native traditional art form is not a sub-genre of opera. The category of "Taiwanese opera singers" should be about opera singers of Taiwanese nationality, not about "singers that perform in Taiwanese opera" as it was. I've just moved all the pages to the new category of "Singers of Taiwanese opera".
The category of "Chinese opera singers" has the same issue, except that it contains a category called "Chinese contemporary classical opera singers", which should be the intended aim of the category. ---- Seanetienne ( talk) 10:29, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Finnish National Opera's Covid fan tutte, starring Karita Mattila, is now available free online with English subtitles [14]. I've watched 11 minutes so far and it's hilarious. Recommended. Softlavender ( talk) 12:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I am right in thinking that - although her image is from the Ricordi archive and quite worth doing - she has no real connection to opera so her photograph shouldn't be added into the Portal, nor the Opera FP rotation at the top of this page? Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 22:39, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Alexander Alexeev (conductor) - this conductor died, and I can't find much, which comes as a surprise for someone who worked with the composer on a production of Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District (opera) as the article says without a reference. It doesn't help that at least a double bass player, a tenor and a physicist come by the same name, and his worldcat entry is under Aleksandr Alekseev. Help, - anybody reading Russian? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Well, I used a translator for the Russian, and the key message is "The information about the farewell will be posted additionally." Let's watch out for that. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Discussion here. Voceditenore ( talk) 09:46, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't normally do articles much, but an opera singer who created a lead role of an opera still performed, and didn't have an article seemed odd. If anyone wants to expand more, feel free. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 02:03, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
I've put this in various relevant articles, but I'd appreciate if people would check my work. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 02:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
The article on this prestigious opera school in Philadelphia was just deleted without an AFD as promotional by @ Seraphimblade:. I created that article as a stub years ago, at which time it was not self-promotional. I haven’t looked at it in some time, so I cannot comment on the state it was in at the time of its recent deletion. Considering the school has many famous alumni, such as Joyce DiDonato, it’s a sad loss for our content area. 4meter4 ( talk) 00:20, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
a prominent member of Philadelphia society("prominent" is puff),
where talented singers could receive highest quality training("talented" and "highest quality" according to what reliable and independent reference?),
For more than six decades, gifted singers have come from throughout the world to seek the exceptional guidance("gifted" and "exceptional" according to what reliable and independent reference?). That is totally inappropriate promotional content; articles must be written neutrally and never "talk up" anyone or anything or use peacock terms. If you think you can write it appropriately with your experience now, I'd be willing to draftify and stub it, but "prominent", "talented", "highest quality", "gifted", "exceptional", etc., will need to stay right out of it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:30, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marjon Lambriks -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:24, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Template:GroveMusic has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the entry on the Templates for discussion page.
Rosl Zapf's articles says that she appeared in Henze first staged works, but I can't find a source, - help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:09, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
See current discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/France and French-related articles#Proposed simplification of MOS:FRENCHCAPS, which is more than a decade outdated. Please discuss there, not here. -- Francis Schonken ( talk) 08:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
... for the fact "In the 1965/66 season,
Rosl Zapf appeared in the first staged performance of the radio operas
Das Ende einer Welt (as Marchesa) and
Ein Landarzt (as the Mother) by
Hans Werner Henze at the
Oper Frankfurt". The Henze site doesn't have performers only
date of premiere as a double bill on 30 November 1965, - "Besetzung" only has the roles, not the performers. It was the time when Solti was GMD a conductor, but
Rennert concucted this one. There are two singers named in our Landarzt article, but I have no access to where they com from. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
08:43, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Been a bit slow to update the list of 'em at the top. Have moved in the three latest (well, La bohème technically is a few hours from passing, but one must finish up on Wikipedia for the year at some point.) Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 07:31, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Bragging, perhaps, but I'm starting to get more and more pleased at how this is coming along. It's a very difficult image to work with. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 20:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Resolved. I made the pic larger, and if others feel that it's still too small, they can fix it. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:21, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Jerome Kohl, as you could read in the DYK section earlier today, was a music theorist, known internationally as an expert in the music of Karlheinz Stockhausen. As a Wikipedia editor, he handled that topic almost alone, including the giant opera cycle Licht. Let's watch the articles, - it's quite a legacy. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:39, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Amazing the articles we didn't have ... Ser Amantio di Nicolao created in his edit No. 4.000.000 Dorothée Manski ( pictured, the Witch of the Met (Hänsel und Gretel), seems her signature role, although she was Isolde in Salzburg also. Question: where does the é come from which I see only in WorldCat and such, but no source, - born Dorothea, international name Dorothee. What should our article title be? Next question: she seems to have escaped Nazi Germany early (before it officially started) to the U.S., but I read that so far only in her husband's article (in German). Any other source? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:22, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Conservatorio di Santa Cecilia is the conservatory under the auspices of the Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia. The Accademia is the umbrella institute, not the school, therefore, the alumni / faculty categories should be named after the Conservatoiro, not the Accademia itself. Once agreed, I'll propose the renaming to the "Categories for discussion". And perhaps the redirect should be expanded into an article as well. Seanetienne ( talk) 14:33, 30 December 2020 (UTC) edited Seanetienne ( talk) 14:08, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
The categories "Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia Alumni" and "Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia Faculty" should not be merged with those of the Conservatorio di Santa Cecilia. The Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia is a completely different school to the Conservatorio di Santa Cecilia. The Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia only accepts graduate students who have completed their "conservatorio" training. The Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia only offers "corsi di perfezionamento", or post graduate courses, unlike the Conservatorio di Santa Cecilia, which only offers undergraduate courses. The Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia is a school in its own right, with totally separate, exclusively postgraduate courses.See https://santacecilia.it/alta-formazione/corsi-di-perfezionamento/]] [1]
This is my attempt at separating the two. Seanetienne ( talk) 09:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Opera Scotland is currently a REDIRECT to Scottish Opera. They are different organizations ( http://www.operascotland.org/ and https://www.scottishopera.org.uk/). Creating that REDIRECT was a mistake. Either someone writes an article about Opera Scotland, or that REDIRECT should be speedily deleted under WP:R3, or proposed for deletion at WP:RFD under WP:RFD#DELETE #10. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 01:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
User:Pigsonthewing has nominated several opera related templates currently in use for deletion. (see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion) I have no problem with the proposed deletions if they are replaced with a suitable template at the bottom of the article as suggested. However, it doesn't look like the nominator actually bothered to create the replacement templates. Some help making sure we don't lose an appropriate opera navbox would be appreciated. 4meter4 ( talk) 19:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
As soon as Template:Handel was deleted today, a user who is not a project member applied its image of the composer on top of all his works which still had the template. I changed it to an image related to the opera for the two featured articles, Rinaldo and Agrippina, where the portrayed Handel looks way too old. I'd prefer infoboxes for all works, - compare Messiah. What do others think? - P.S. While I typed this, the image was returned to Rinaldo, in a second position. I think it's misleading. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Can we say something about the selection of a lead image for an opera? (Perhaps we have it, and I just don't know?)
On all accounts, there seems to be no room for an image of a middle-aged Handel in his youthful work Rinaldo, at all. If the doubtful image of a young Handel should be used, then in the history section, with a proper caption that it is doubtful. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:28, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
A discussion on Classical music about a proposal for a new design of its project page made me look at "ours" here, and made me aware of several red links. I think the wording about the sidebar should reflect that it is no longer a preferred option. At this point, we might drop it altogether, it seems. Yes, I know I said this before ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Miscellaneous opera character redirects to lists has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. - BRAINULATOR9 ( TALK) 02:16, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Idly leafing (as one does) through the libretto of Pelopida, the dramma per musica of Girolamo Abos and Gaetano Roccaforte, premiered during carnival 1747 at the Teatro Argentina in Rome, I found two surprising items.
Firstly, a disclaimer that, despite the opera involving Fate and numi, the author is a good catholic. Authors apologising for their plot lines is not usual.
Secondly, credits to the costume designer and to the tailor. I know that this is Italy, home to la moda, but this was 1747!
Scarabocchio ( talk) 05:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
DYK ... that Matthias Hölle, a regular bass singer at the Bayreuth Festival, appeared in the world premieres of Stockhausen's Donnerstag aus Licht and Samstag aus Licht at La Scala in Milan?
This was planned as a greeting to Jerome Kohl, and became a memorial. He wrote practically everything we know about Licht and Stockhausen's music, - a legacy. --