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Hey all! some of you probably noticed that I've been absent - or at least not contributing as much as before - from this project. It's just that I've got myself a job a month ago and I don't have the time I used to, anymore.
But I haven't lost my interest, and that's why I've returned, briefly, to warn you that the Athens 2004 Summer Olympics Official Report is already available online at LA84 Foundation's portal. Finally, this project can correctly update, develop and substantiate the 2004 Games-related articles!
Have fun! See you around. Parutakupiu 17:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Is there anybody interested to build up and/or start a discussion about a guideline? There is still many confusion and Beijing is "only" 268 days left! Doma-w 02:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Barker (athlete) for a new discussion on whether or not every Olympic athlete satisfies notability requirements for individual articles. — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 19:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Football at the 1896 Summer Olympics (unofficial) has been prodded. 132.205.44.5 ( talk) 23:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Just a courtesy call to let you know that Magdalena Miklos is at AfD at the moment. nancy (talk) 20:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I suggest there should be an official and clear-cut guideline/rule/policy on what should appear on a medal tally section for Olympics and all multi-sport events articles. For example, in the 2007 SEA Games, I had to "compromise" on a medal tally with a "medal target" row -- not only it is ugly but "medal targets" aren't supposedly mentioned in the same vein as the medal tallies.
How about a using universal template (like Template:RankedMedalTable that will be applied to all multi-sport events articles? -- Howard the Duck 06:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I have recently nominated all the base articles for events recognized by the International Olympic Committee for inclusion in a future release version of wikipedia at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations/Set Nominations/Sports recognized by the IOC. Several are already included in one or more release versions, but others are I think of a quality right now that they are unlikely to be included. I am thinking particularly of Air sports, Boules, Dancesport, Finswimming, Jeu de paume, Motorcycle sport, Mountain bike racing, Powerboating, Roller sport, Roque, and Water motorsports, particularly the last. If the members of this project were to be able to bring these articles up to at least a good Start-Class level, I think that would improve their chances of inclusion dramatically. Also, particularly for the Water motorsports page, if it would be possible to add a few paragraphs regarding each of the listed sports to the article, with links to the main articles on those sports, I think that would help the chances of that article's being included dramatically. John Carter ( talk) 17:33, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
There are several PD-US images of Olympians from around the world from the 1912 Olympics in a set posted by the Library of Congress [1]. Someone should look through the entire set of 1500 photos. Most are not Olympians but many are. Many of them could use comments about who they are. Some of the comments left use the Wikipedia article as a source. I spot checked some, and most of the people pictured there have no image in Wikipedia. It's an unbelievable set, so enjoy! I know I am enjoying it! Royalbroil 18:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
European Union member states at the 2004 Summer Olympics, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/European Union member states at the 2004 Summer Olympics (2nd nomination). Thank you. Paulbrock ( talk) 16:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
As someone who's worked on other portals, but has just being some work in Olympic topics (and just joined this project), I'm curious if there has been any discussion of raising the main portal to featured status. If so, is anyone currently working on this? If not, is anyone interested in working on this as a joint project? Carom ( talk) 22:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
FYI. There is now a ribbon equivalent to the Olympic Barnstar if anyone is interested. Chris ( talk) 21:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
It's says that Norway took 10 golds but only seven are show.
Could someone please change the flag for Australia at the 1904 Summer Olympics? I do not know how to do this. The flag which should be used is Image:Flag of Australia 1903-1909.svg -- Astrokey44 22:52, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to get some opinions on how best to display results for "historic nations". For example, Benin (BEN) used to be Dahomey (DAH) in 1972. Right now, we would show results as:
The template uses "DAH" for the country code, and the wikilinked article is Dahomey at the 1972 Summer Olympics.
On the other hand, we have results for British Guiana, but the nation was renamed as Guyana before the introduction of country codes. Therefore, we use GUY for all results. The templates have been modified to correctly link to the right article name:
On a related note, we also use NED for every instance of the Netherlands, although they famously used HOL for many years.
The end result is a bit inconsistent. Therefore, my question is: should we use the current country code for all past results, consistently? The following nations would be affected:
This list only includes name changes, not country changes. We would still use URS, YUG, FRG, GDR, TCH, etc. for results from those obsolete nations.
Note that I am proposing that the article names would still be Burma at the 1948 Summer Olympics, Ceylon at the 1948 Summer Olympics, Zaire at the 1988 Summer Olympics, etc. but the country codes BIR, CEY, ZAI, etc. would disappear, to be replaced by MYA, SRI, COD, etc. on our event results pages. Or do we still want to see the old codes used?
Also note that I have tweaked the infobox code to support the display of older non-standard country codes. Per the detailed notes I listed on List of IOC country codes, there were a lot of pre-standard codes used in addition to standard ones that changed, and I thought it would be useful to show them. Take a look at Algeria at the 1968 Summer Olympics for an example. This technique could also be used in conjunction with the possible changes per this discussion thread, so for example, every page for Sri Lanka/Ceylon would show SRI in the infobox as the country code, but the 1948–1972 pages would also show "(CEY) used at these Games)".
What do you think? — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 19:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
This is a consensus? I can only see that again nobody is interested. Doma-w ( talk) 07:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Which style do we prefer?
Thanks and kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 23:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
×
character, as in 4×400, but of course, the article title cannot use that Unicode character and must use a regular lower-case x.[[Athletics at the 2004 Summer Olympics - Men's 50 kilometre walk|50 km]]
if the rest of the context is clear.As a side note, this might also apply to the ISSF shooting events. When I created the event articles, I used the abbreviated and capitalized versions (i.e. 10 m Air Rifle etc) that are used in the official ISSF rules. None of them have been moved, but in adding information to various related articles (such as Olympic subpages or shooter bios), contributors have often opted for "metre" or "meter", as well as for lower-case titles. Of course, consistency would be better. Following this debate with great interest. -- Jao ( talk) 15:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Which style do we prefer?
Kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 23:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I have tried to improve the list article 1928 Summer Olympics medal count. I am thinking of nominating the article at Wikipedia:Featured lists, but I would like to receive some feedback from this project first. Thanks, Ilse @ 13:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
The featured list candidate 1928 Summer Olympics medal count has undergone some changes since its nomination. I would like to invite you to support or oppose the candidacy on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1928 Summer Olympics medal count. Thank you, Ilse @ 23:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I think, that usage of this and similar self-created pictograms is appropriate only in general "Olympic <Event>" (e.g. Olympic Swimming) related articles and templates. But not at pages and templates related to "Olympic <Event> at <NNNN> Olympics". Because there were official pictograms for each event developed for each Olympics (since some time). And self-created pictograms should not "replace" official ones in the webspace (Wikipedia is a large contributor to this space as everybody knows). For example, I believe, such pictograms should be removed from Template:SwimmingAt2004SummerOlympics and all similar ones. Cmapm ( talk) 14:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there anyone interested to bring back James Barker (athlete) who was surprisingly redirected after this discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Barker (athlete)? Some new info was found in a new source so the article can look like [3]. Kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 15:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
In case anyone *hasn't* spotted it 2008 Summer Olympics torch relay is undergoing heavy editing at the moment, particularly around the protests. Paulbrock ( talk) 11:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Template:OlympicsWikiProject seems to have a problem. See Template_talk:OlympicsWikiProject#Broken? for info. Paulbrock ( talk) 11:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Nobody is interested in a guideline or page names. Nobody is interested in Mr. Barker. Nobody is interested to improve the list article 1928 Summer Olympics medal count to a featured list.
Does the WikiProject Olympics still exist? Doma-w ( talk) 22:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, of course this was not my question... Sometimes I am very bold, so I have created a few pages. I do not need help in creating or improving pages, but sometimes it would be very helpful to have a community. I do not want to decide the page names or the guideline alone. Only a few words if we want 4x100 or 4 x 100? Or in the case of Mr. Barker. An Olympic competitor was deleted (sorry redirected!), but the Olympic project was not interested. So I tried to imporve the article, still no interest. Only a few words what we want? (I still do not know what must be done to bring him back, if we want to bring him back!!) My problem is, that users from outside the project decides for us. Also I am sorry for user:Ilse@. This user worked to bring the 1928 Summer Olympics medal count to a featured list, but without our support this was impossible. And I think this user lost interest in wikiOlympics...
I know, that we are only a few editors, but why it is not possible to work together or to support each other? Doma-w ( talk) 00:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Would a newsletter be a good idea. I would think that there would be a lot to report on, on Wikipedia and real life. Basketball 110 Talk 21:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I've replaced the WP:China talk page banner with this projects' since it seems more appropriate. Also, this projects' banner has the peer review parameter, but I do not see a PR section within this Wikiproject... so this article has a ongoing PR here. « ₣M₣ » 17:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I no way to see where the list of badminton players that will be take part as it publish by BWF, so i go back and check, nothing there. So, User:Mohsen1248 always claim he is right, i see unofficial list which is violate the WP:VERIFY and WP:FUTURE, a "dummy list" took from non-BWF publish. So, please, some one can comment about this. -- Aleen f1 09:40, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Several project members have been working on these lists and I think there could be a potential FT there. If a bunch of us working on them, we could be ready by the start of the Beijing games (although remember not to flood WP:FLC with too many at a time - 4 or 5 max) Having a Summer Olympics medal count would be a good start because although there are more than the Winter Olympics medal counts, there are less short ones (and the smaller lists are harder to pass) and we already have one FL (1976), one FLC (2004), and one that's basically there but needs to sort some things out first (1928). Although the problem is that we need a main article - any suggestions? -- Scorpion 0422 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I guess All-time Olympic Games medal count could be our main article, it does summarize the topic, but does need some work. I'll do 1960. -- Scorpion 0422 14:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
←Current IOC data is certainly the most authoritative source for medal tables, but it is not infalliable. Those are not contradictory statements. I have pointed out several instances where there are mistakes in their database (such as Dorothy Greenhough-Smith's bronze in figure skating at the 1908 Summer Olympics), but with 15000 medals to keep track of, their accurary rate is quite high. Certainly, using official reports as the primary source for medal counts has one fundamental problem—these numbers are not static. Medals can be taken away (e.g. Marion Jones) or added (e.g. Sylvie Fréchette and Jim Thorpe) years later, and entire events can have their medal status changed decades later, such as curling at the 1924 Winter Olympics and art competitions at the Summer Olympics. The IOC medal database is the most actively maintained contemporary source for official medal counts, and has far less errors than any other source I have found. Second, you are confused with respect to country codes. You are mixing two concepts: what codes were used at the Games at the time, and what codes are used by the IOC today. Country codes weren't really standardized until the 1972 Games, so I don't know what point you are trying to make for Germany from 1956–1964. Clearly EUA is a code created by the IOC to describe that unique situation in Olympic history, and as far as we can tell, that code was created decades after the actual events. As to your last point, you'll see that East and West Germany are sorted next to each other in almost every large list of nations, such as 1972 Summer Olympics#Participating nations and Template:NOCin1972SummerOlympics (just like North Korea and South Korea both under K, by the way). Are you not just looking at the table on All-time Olympic Games medal count and extrapolating that obsevation to every instance where we have a list of nations? — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 16:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Addendum: I noticed that categories like Category:Nations at the 1972 Summer Olympics had N/S Korea sorted properly, but not E/W Germany, so I just fixed all of them. — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 16:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
We've all got to try to keep a closer eye on and clean up the controversy section because it's gotten kind of out of hand. Some of the stuff being added doesn't have anything to do with the Olympics. In the boycotts section, I just removed a bunch of people who either are going or are not attending for non-boycott reasons so they shouldn't take up space in the section. -- Scorpion 0422 02:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Given the various people working on getting the medals tables to FL status, we'll need to resolve an issue brought up under the failed FL nomination for 1928 Summer Olympics medal count (nomination discussion here. The question is whether the medals awarded in arts competitions should have charts on the medal count pages or on separate pages, and if included on the medal count pages what sort of disclaimer or description of controversy about their inclusion should be present. My personal opinion is that they should be included, simply because medals were awarded at the time, regardless of their importance or official recognition now, but that we need to write a well-sourced disclaimer about their not being recognized by the IOC. Marrio ( talk) 11:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have a good reference that encompasses the information in List of Olympic host cities? The ref I have in there is not desirable for a host of reasons (it doesn't mention the cancelled Olympics, doesn't include all information in the list, etc.) - Marrio ( talk) 01:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
The majority of Olympic articles on Great Britain are titled Great Britain at the xxxx Olympics but up until 1908 the name is more complicated. The official report of the 1896 only refers to England and 1904 for only refers to Ireland (the only two winners came from Ireland). During the 1908 Olympics they competed as the United Kingdom as shown by a photograph on page 48 of the official report. My preference would to move them to Great Britain in line with all the other articles. Any other opinions before I do the move? josh ( talk) 12:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I attempted to move the 1908 article to Great Britain a couple of months ago (along with a few others) but got reverted. I'll try again with a link to this discussion and see what happens. I'll do the others while I'm at it. josh ( talk) 16:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Done 1904 and 1908 but the first two need an administrator to do it as the redirects have been edited. josh ( talk) 16:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
hi, I created a page about Wushu Tournament Beijing 2008, i know it is not part of 2008 olympics but i think it is not bad if we link it to 2008 olympics. What do you think ? -- Mohsen1248 ( talk) 22:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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China at the 2008 Summer Olympics), but I think a link to that article from the "See also" section (for example) is not unreasonable. —
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22:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)The article 2016 Summer Olympics bids need urgently improvements. Felipe C.S ( talk ) 22:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
As the aforementioned article is in the scope of this project, I thought I would let project members know of this RfC and ask users to leave their comments on the article's talk page. Thanks. Tbo 157 (talk) 16:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
If wondering if you guys will allow the split of this page into men's and women's tourneys... -- Howard the Duck 06:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, a group of regulars at Template:In the news, is currently being extraordinarily forward thinking and discussing how to handle coverage of the Beijing Olympics results on the Main Page. Consensus seems to be coalescing around the idea of linking to a separate page for Olympics coverage. We'd be interested to hear if you guys already have something planned that we can integrate in, or if you'd be interested in helping maintain the proposed page. Discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Sports on ITN#Olympics and other multiple-sport events and we welcome your participation. Thanks, Banyan Tree 02:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Heads up. The 2008 edition of the Complete Book of the Olympics ( Summer Olympics only) just released in late May. This covers all of the Summer events from the first modern games in Athens, Greece in 1896 to the most recent games in Athens in 2004. I have glanced at it cover to cover and it is a pretty good read though it is loaded with some copy errors. The controversey they had with Swedish Greco-Roman wrestler Mikael Ljungberg and his doping allegations in the 2004 edition has been removed. I contacted the authors about the book earlier today with a few editing issues though I have not received a response. The Winter Olympics book that covers from Chamonix in 1924 to the most recent games at Turin in 2006 should be released toward the end of 2009 in time for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver if publishing trends hold true. Chris ( talk) 20:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm new to the project, but I've managed to turn the 2004 Official report into a database of athletes and results, and I was hoping to update these 'Country at the 2004 Summer Olympics' articles with the official results and entries. However, I wasn't sure if there was any generally accepted template for these articles, or whether there had ever been discussion of one.
Right now, the different sports within the results sections of many of these articles are quite differently formatted, that is for some sports both time/score and placing are shown, for others only placing (even when a time/score is available). Some knockout competitions detail every match by the competitor, some are content with a simple 'defeated in quarterfinals'. Some team events have every match, some only a summary. Canada at the 2004 Summer Olympics is unique in that all the results are all written with sentences, something that would be very tiring to do for ≈200 NOCs.
So, I was wondering if there had been any discussion about these pages, and if not, perhaps we can start one before I embark on standardizing and completing them.
Edged ( talk) 06:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
The Taekwondo article is having a content dispute (running for over 6 months now) and I wondered if anyone from here might be interested in helping to calm things down and help clean up the article as it has been hacked rather badly with reverts and attempts to merge opposing versions. The main debate is on the origins of the art, the talk page gives a good introduction to the views held by the editors, any help would be most appreciated. -- Nate1481( t/ c) 14:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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Is it too early to start populating the subcats of Category:Competitors at the 2008 Summer Olympics? It currently lists people who have qualified for the Games, but since the Games haven't started yet, is it too soon? It's categorizing them by something that hasn't happened yet. Kolindigo ( talk) 21:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I think, before we go any further, it's important to be sure that the list of events I have on my subpage (which should probably be moved to this project, now that I think of it) for the 2008 games is actually what we should be using. I know this was brought up recently, so I think we should just tie up the loose ends (e.g. m vs. metre; Men's tournament vs. Men). I just fixed up Swimming at the 2008 Summer Olympics to reflect what we had there, but there might be some changes I would make to some other events on the list. Anyway, before people make more ridiculous article names like 50 m Freestyle at the 2008 Summer Olympics, I suggest we finalize this, and make sure all the event main pages are set up to be conducive to good data gathering. My list can be found at User:Jared/2008 events, but anyone can move this into our project if you're feeling ambitious! Give me your thoughts and/or edit the page accordingly. Jared (t) 03:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
What do people think of making a special watchlist for the run-up to the Olympics and the games themselves of "hot areas" for vandalism and/or libel, to help make sure things stay clean? The big obvious one would be 2008 Summer Olympics, but all pages or biographical articles that are specific tagets, whether for political reasons or whatever, could go on it. Alternatively, there could be one watchlist with every article on the 2008 Olympics and every athlete there, and another one for heavy vandalism targets. Kolindigo ( talk) 03:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Archery at the 2008 Summer Olympics ![]() Qualification | ||||
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I've started to create the sport per year templates ({{ ArcheryAt2008SummerOlympics}}), which basically only involves copying the 2004 template (I found a list I compiled a while back here) and crosschecking with my 2008 events list. I think this is a good idea in general, to get these templates up on the pages, so that editors will edit the properly-named pages (again, last call!). My question right now, though, is where should I put Qualification subpages on that template? I was thinking something like what's right here on your right, which should work, but if anyone has a better suggestion, let me know. Otherwise, I'll probably implement that when I get the chance to add the rest of the templates. Jared (t) 15:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hi all. I have noticed — through a recent edit of this template — the creation of a separate article for the beach volleyball event at the 2008 Games. I think User:Bib was editing in good faith, but I'm kinda split here now that this hit me in the face: we have examples of different disciplines of a sport that are separately linked in this type of template (e.g. diving, swimming, water polo, etc.), but we also have links to sports which also have multiple disciplines (e.g. canoeing, volleyball) but these disciplines are not given such "priviledge". What should we do? Parutakupiu ( talk) 12:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I just now noticed this section. A couple of days ago, I opened a discussion about the categorization of beach volleyball as a separate sport here. Commenters above are encouraged to reflect their opinions there as well. Neier ( talk) 02:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
In 1908 the Ireland national field hockey team and an Ireland polo team competed in the field hockey and polo competitions. However User:Doma-w objects to members of these team being described as Irish or being placed in categories for Irish Olympians. He has even reverted my attempts to link the hockey players to the above team. Any thoughts Djln-- 86.130.133.59 ( talk) 18:28, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Remember that these 'Ireland' teams did not represent the Republic of Ireland. The were selected from all of Ireland and, (I guess) included athletes from the six counties that make up Northern Ireland which is still part of the United Kingdom today (as of 2008).There are some sports where Ireland is still represented by all-Ireland teams even now (Rugby, cricket, Gaelic football, hurling I think) however the current Irish Olympic organising committee represents the Republic of Ireland and any athlete from Northern Ireland selected to represent Ireland in the Olympics would be part of the Republic of Ireland team. In 1908 athletes from all the parts of Ireland were sent to the Olympics by the British Olympic Committee. Filceolaire ( talk) 12:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
The idea previously mentioned here about highlighting the Olympics on Template:In the news on the Main Page has been proposed at Template talk:In the news#Proposal: Olympics feature during the Beijing Olympics. - Banyan Tree 23:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
i think Independent Olympic Participants is too long, can we change it to Independent Participants ?
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automatically generate the wikilink, I'm not sure I understand what the problem is. —
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I wonder if somebody has an idea what the distribution is of the amount of competitors per team. Like how many countries send 0-10 athletes, how many 10-25, 25-50, 50-100, 100-200 and more. Is there any idea? I am not asking for exact data or something. More like very, very rough ideas. Miho ( talk) 19:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
There is a discussions on "country", "nation" and "region" at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2000 Summer Olympics medal count. Plus there is a debate about the importance of country size in medals achieved. Your comments are welcome on this and any other issue of the article. Lightmouse ( talk) 08:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Only to be sure, according to this "consensus" [8] wikipedia really wants to show current country code for past Games? E.g. we really want to use the country code BEN for Dahomey in 1972? But Dahomey did not change its name before 1975. So we use the country code BEN three years before the country changed its name? This means that we give this country a name which was unknown in 1972?
Or Romania, do we really want to show for all past Games the wrong country code "ROU" only because it is used today? All over many years Romania used "ROM" why we must change this? Now e.g. the page Romania at the 1988 Summer Olympics only shows "ROU" a country code which was completely unknown in 1988 and the correct code "ROM" is not even mentioned. This is like rewritten history? Kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 23:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
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for all results pages and lists of medalists for all Games. I don't think we want to change this. We could use an alternate style for results pages—instead of using flagIOCathlete
in a single table column, for example, we could put the athlete names in one column and the full names of nations in a second column and don't use the codes at all. However, lists like
List of Olympic medalists in athletics (men) would need to be rewritten, and I don't have a good idea of how to do that.I have created Template:USOC profile to help standardize links to USOC athlete profiles. Kolindigo ( talk) 18:34, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
For the 08 Olympics, are we creating sub-articles for each discipline/event within a sport? For example, I notice with Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics the article has been split off into respective sub-articles for the Men's and Women's competitions. Likewise, weightlifting is having sub-pages created for each weight class. In contrast, sports like field hockey or handball haven't had separate men's and women's sub-articles created yet. Is creating sub-article for each discipline/event within a sport the agreed convention? If so, should we be removing game-specific info from the top-level pages (eg. Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics) as it is now redundant because it is now in sub-pages (eg. Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Men and Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Women). Top-level pages would then become summary pages. Personally I like the idea of splitting each event (weight class, men's/women's comp etc...) into sub-pages and directing the reader through the use of the sport per year templates (eg. {{BasketballAt2008SummerOlympics}}) located on a top-level summary page. Would be really good to get some consensus on this and thus develop consistency to how pages for each sport, discipline, event (weight class, men's/women's etc...) should be arranged. Goldfinger820 ( talk) 06:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm reviving WP:WikiProject Gymnastics, and obviously there is a fair bit of overlap between the project and this one. If assistance is required (and I imagine it will be once the games get underway) then feel free to drop a note over at WT:WikiProject Gymnastics. -- ratarsed ( talk) 13:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Can someone with a good working knowledge of BLP take a look at the Dara Torres article and try to improve it? I know there is enough stuff out there right now that there should be a way to put in the fact that she is going out of her way to combat steroid allegations by volunteering for tests and so on, but I can't think of a good way to do it without hitting up against BLP problems when trying to source the fact that there are allegations in the first place, because from what I can tell, all the allegations are from people saying "there is no way she could do that, she must be on steroids", instead of actual verifiable doping problems. *sigh* Anyone want to take a stab at the article? Kolindigo ( talk) 00:16, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
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I am trying to memorize the Olympic cities, and was pleased to find the list here. Even more pleased to find the sentence that said there are only six cities that have hosted the Olympics more than once. BUT--it looks to me like there are seven.
The six listed in that sentence are Los Angeles, London, Paris, St. Moritz, Lake Placid and Athens. But the list lower on the page has Innsbruck in 1964 and 1976.
I am too new to Wikipedia to edit this myself...wanted to see if others could explain maybe why I'm wrong.
VJGen ( talk) 17:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
In many Youtube´s video like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y_hL5cai-I you can heared the anthem. In this video you can hear the anthem in Greek during the celebrations of the coming of the year 2000 (2000 Today)in Athens. -- Bicko2008 ( talk) 04:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hey all! some of you probably noticed that I've been absent - or at least not contributing as much as before - from this project. It's just that I've got myself a job a month ago and I don't have the time I used to, anymore.
But I haven't lost my interest, and that's why I've returned, briefly, to warn you that the Athens 2004 Summer Olympics Official Report is already available online at LA84 Foundation's portal. Finally, this project can correctly update, develop and substantiate the 2004 Games-related articles!
Have fun! See you around. Parutakupiu 17:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Is there anybody interested to build up and/or start a discussion about a guideline? There is still many confusion and Beijing is "only" 268 days left! Doma-w 02:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Barker (athlete) for a new discussion on whether or not every Olympic athlete satisfies notability requirements for individual articles. — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 19:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Football at the 1896 Summer Olympics (unofficial) has been prodded. 132.205.44.5 ( talk) 23:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Just a courtesy call to let you know that Magdalena Miklos is at AfD at the moment. nancy (talk) 20:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I suggest there should be an official and clear-cut guideline/rule/policy on what should appear on a medal tally section for Olympics and all multi-sport events articles. For example, in the 2007 SEA Games, I had to "compromise" on a medal tally with a "medal target" row -- not only it is ugly but "medal targets" aren't supposedly mentioned in the same vein as the medal tallies.
How about a using universal template (like Template:RankedMedalTable that will be applied to all multi-sport events articles? -- Howard the Duck 06:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I have recently nominated all the base articles for events recognized by the International Olympic Committee for inclusion in a future release version of wikipedia at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations/Set Nominations/Sports recognized by the IOC. Several are already included in one or more release versions, but others are I think of a quality right now that they are unlikely to be included. I am thinking particularly of Air sports, Boules, Dancesport, Finswimming, Jeu de paume, Motorcycle sport, Mountain bike racing, Powerboating, Roller sport, Roque, and Water motorsports, particularly the last. If the members of this project were to be able to bring these articles up to at least a good Start-Class level, I think that would improve their chances of inclusion dramatically. Also, particularly for the Water motorsports page, if it would be possible to add a few paragraphs regarding each of the listed sports to the article, with links to the main articles on those sports, I think that would help the chances of that article's being included dramatically. John Carter ( talk) 17:33, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
There are several PD-US images of Olympians from around the world from the 1912 Olympics in a set posted by the Library of Congress [1]. Someone should look through the entire set of 1500 photos. Most are not Olympians but many are. Many of them could use comments about who they are. Some of the comments left use the Wikipedia article as a source. I spot checked some, and most of the people pictured there have no image in Wikipedia. It's an unbelievable set, so enjoy! I know I am enjoying it! Royalbroil 18:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
European Union member states at the 2004 Summer Olympics, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/European Union member states at the 2004 Summer Olympics (2nd nomination). Thank you. Paulbrock ( talk) 16:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
As someone who's worked on other portals, but has just being some work in Olympic topics (and just joined this project), I'm curious if there has been any discussion of raising the main portal to featured status. If so, is anyone currently working on this? If not, is anyone interested in working on this as a joint project? Carom ( talk) 22:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
FYI. There is now a ribbon equivalent to the Olympic Barnstar if anyone is interested. Chris ( talk) 21:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
It's says that Norway took 10 golds but only seven are show.
Could someone please change the flag for Australia at the 1904 Summer Olympics? I do not know how to do this. The flag which should be used is Image:Flag of Australia 1903-1909.svg -- Astrokey44 22:52, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to get some opinions on how best to display results for "historic nations". For example, Benin (BEN) used to be Dahomey (DAH) in 1972. Right now, we would show results as:
The template uses "DAH" for the country code, and the wikilinked article is Dahomey at the 1972 Summer Olympics.
On the other hand, we have results for British Guiana, but the nation was renamed as Guyana before the introduction of country codes. Therefore, we use GUY for all results. The templates have been modified to correctly link to the right article name:
On a related note, we also use NED for every instance of the Netherlands, although they famously used HOL for many years.
The end result is a bit inconsistent. Therefore, my question is: should we use the current country code for all past results, consistently? The following nations would be affected:
This list only includes name changes, not country changes. We would still use URS, YUG, FRG, GDR, TCH, etc. for results from those obsolete nations.
Note that I am proposing that the article names would still be Burma at the 1948 Summer Olympics, Ceylon at the 1948 Summer Olympics, Zaire at the 1988 Summer Olympics, etc. but the country codes BIR, CEY, ZAI, etc. would disappear, to be replaced by MYA, SRI, COD, etc. on our event results pages. Or do we still want to see the old codes used?
Also note that I have tweaked the infobox code to support the display of older non-standard country codes. Per the detailed notes I listed on List of IOC country codes, there were a lot of pre-standard codes used in addition to standard ones that changed, and I thought it would be useful to show them. Take a look at Algeria at the 1968 Summer Olympics for an example. This technique could also be used in conjunction with the possible changes per this discussion thread, so for example, every page for Sri Lanka/Ceylon would show SRI in the infobox as the country code, but the 1948–1972 pages would also show "(CEY) used at these Games)".
What do you think? — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 19:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
This is a consensus? I can only see that again nobody is interested. Doma-w ( talk) 07:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Which style do we prefer?
Thanks and kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 23:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
×
character, as in 4×400, but of course, the article title cannot use that Unicode character and must use a regular lower-case x.[[Athletics at the 2004 Summer Olympics - Men's 50 kilometre walk|50 km]]
if the rest of the context is clear.As a side note, this might also apply to the ISSF shooting events. When I created the event articles, I used the abbreviated and capitalized versions (i.e. 10 m Air Rifle etc) that are used in the official ISSF rules. None of them have been moved, but in adding information to various related articles (such as Olympic subpages or shooter bios), contributors have often opted for "metre" or "meter", as well as for lower-case titles. Of course, consistency would be better. Following this debate with great interest. -- Jao ( talk) 15:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Which style do we prefer?
Kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 23:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I have tried to improve the list article 1928 Summer Olympics medal count. I am thinking of nominating the article at Wikipedia:Featured lists, but I would like to receive some feedback from this project first. Thanks, Ilse @ 13:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
The featured list candidate 1928 Summer Olympics medal count has undergone some changes since its nomination. I would like to invite you to support or oppose the candidacy on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1928 Summer Olympics medal count. Thank you, Ilse @ 23:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I think, that usage of this and similar self-created pictograms is appropriate only in general "Olympic <Event>" (e.g. Olympic Swimming) related articles and templates. But not at pages and templates related to "Olympic <Event> at <NNNN> Olympics". Because there were official pictograms for each event developed for each Olympics (since some time). And self-created pictograms should not "replace" official ones in the webspace (Wikipedia is a large contributor to this space as everybody knows). For example, I believe, such pictograms should be removed from Template:SwimmingAt2004SummerOlympics and all similar ones. Cmapm ( talk) 14:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there anyone interested to bring back James Barker (athlete) who was surprisingly redirected after this discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Barker (athlete)? Some new info was found in a new source so the article can look like [3]. Kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 15:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
In case anyone *hasn't* spotted it 2008 Summer Olympics torch relay is undergoing heavy editing at the moment, particularly around the protests. Paulbrock ( talk) 11:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Template:OlympicsWikiProject seems to have a problem. See Template_talk:OlympicsWikiProject#Broken? for info. Paulbrock ( talk) 11:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Nobody is interested in a guideline or page names. Nobody is interested in Mr. Barker. Nobody is interested to improve the list article 1928 Summer Olympics medal count to a featured list.
Does the WikiProject Olympics still exist? Doma-w ( talk) 22:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, of course this was not my question... Sometimes I am very bold, so I have created a few pages. I do not need help in creating or improving pages, but sometimes it would be very helpful to have a community. I do not want to decide the page names or the guideline alone. Only a few words if we want 4x100 or 4 x 100? Or in the case of Mr. Barker. An Olympic competitor was deleted (sorry redirected!), but the Olympic project was not interested. So I tried to imporve the article, still no interest. Only a few words what we want? (I still do not know what must be done to bring him back, if we want to bring him back!!) My problem is, that users from outside the project decides for us. Also I am sorry for user:Ilse@. This user worked to bring the 1928 Summer Olympics medal count to a featured list, but without our support this was impossible. And I think this user lost interest in wikiOlympics...
I know, that we are only a few editors, but why it is not possible to work together or to support each other? Doma-w ( talk) 00:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Would a newsletter be a good idea. I would think that there would be a lot to report on, on Wikipedia and real life. Basketball 110 Talk 21:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I've replaced the WP:China talk page banner with this projects' since it seems more appropriate. Also, this projects' banner has the peer review parameter, but I do not see a PR section within this Wikiproject... so this article has a ongoing PR here. « ₣M₣ » 17:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I no way to see where the list of badminton players that will be take part as it publish by BWF, so i go back and check, nothing there. So, User:Mohsen1248 always claim he is right, i see unofficial list which is violate the WP:VERIFY and WP:FUTURE, a "dummy list" took from non-BWF publish. So, please, some one can comment about this. -- Aleen f1 09:40, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Several project members have been working on these lists and I think there could be a potential FT there. If a bunch of us working on them, we could be ready by the start of the Beijing games (although remember not to flood WP:FLC with too many at a time - 4 or 5 max) Having a Summer Olympics medal count would be a good start because although there are more than the Winter Olympics medal counts, there are less short ones (and the smaller lists are harder to pass) and we already have one FL (1976), one FLC (2004), and one that's basically there but needs to sort some things out first (1928). Although the problem is that we need a main article - any suggestions? -- Scorpion 0422 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I guess All-time Olympic Games medal count could be our main article, it does summarize the topic, but does need some work. I'll do 1960. -- Scorpion 0422 14:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
←Current IOC data is certainly the most authoritative source for medal tables, but it is not infalliable. Those are not contradictory statements. I have pointed out several instances where there are mistakes in their database (such as Dorothy Greenhough-Smith's bronze in figure skating at the 1908 Summer Olympics), but with 15000 medals to keep track of, their accurary rate is quite high. Certainly, using official reports as the primary source for medal counts has one fundamental problem—these numbers are not static. Medals can be taken away (e.g. Marion Jones) or added (e.g. Sylvie Fréchette and Jim Thorpe) years later, and entire events can have their medal status changed decades later, such as curling at the 1924 Winter Olympics and art competitions at the Summer Olympics. The IOC medal database is the most actively maintained contemporary source for official medal counts, and has far less errors than any other source I have found. Second, you are confused with respect to country codes. You are mixing two concepts: what codes were used at the Games at the time, and what codes are used by the IOC today. Country codes weren't really standardized until the 1972 Games, so I don't know what point you are trying to make for Germany from 1956–1964. Clearly EUA is a code created by the IOC to describe that unique situation in Olympic history, and as far as we can tell, that code was created decades after the actual events. As to your last point, you'll see that East and West Germany are sorted next to each other in almost every large list of nations, such as 1972 Summer Olympics#Participating nations and Template:NOCin1972SummerOlympics (just like North Korea and South Korea both under K, by the way). Are you not just looking at the table on All-time Olympic Games medal count and extrapolating that obsevation to every instance where we have a list of nations? — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 16:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Addendum: I noticed that categories like Category:Nations at the 1972 Summer Olympics had N/S Korea sorted properly, but not E/W Germany, so I just fixed all of them. — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 16:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
We've all got to try to keep a closer eye on and clean up the controversy section because it's gotten kind of out of hand. Some of the stuff being added doesn't have anything to do with the Olympics. In the boycotts section, I just removed a bunch of people who either are going or are not attending for non-boycott reasons so they shouldn't take up space in the section. -- Scorpion 0422 02:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Given the various people working on getting the medals tables to FL status, we'll need to resolve an issue brought up under the failed FL nomination for 1928 Summer Olympics medal count (nomination discussion here. The question is whether the medals awarded in arts competitions should have charts on the medal count pages or on separate pages, and if included on the medal count pages what sort of disclaimer or description of controversy about their inclusion should be present. My personal opinion is that they should be included, simply because medals were awarded at the time, regardless of their importance or official recognition now, but that we need to write a well-sourced disclaimer about their not being recognized by the IOC. Marrio ( talk) 11:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have a good reference that encompasses the information in List of Olympic host cities? The ref I have in there is not desirable for a host of reasons (it doesn't mention the cancelled Olympics, doesn't include all information in the list, etc.) - Marrio ( talk) 01:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
The majority of Olympic articles on Great Britain are titled Great Britain at the xxxx Olympics but up until 1908 the name is more complicated. The official report of the 1896 only refers to England and 1904 for only refers to Ireland (the only two winners came from Ireland). During the 1908 Olympics they competed as the United Kingdom as shown by a photograph on page 48 of the official report. My preference would to move them to Great Britain in line with all the other articles. Any other opinions before I do the move? josh ( talk) 12:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I attempted to move the 1908 article to Great Britain a couple of months ago (along with a few others) but got reverted. I'll try again with a link to this discussion and see what happens. I'll do the others while I'm at it. josh ( talk) 16:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Done 1904 and 1908 but the first two need an administrator to do it as the redirects have been edited. josh ( talk) 16:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
hi, I created a page about Wushu Tournament Beijing 2008, i know it is not part of 2008 olympics but i think it is not bad if we link it to 2008 olympics. What do you think ? -- Mohsen1248 ( talk) 22:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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China at the 2008 Summer Olympics), but I think a link to that article from the "See also" section (for example) is not unreasonable. —
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22:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)The article 2016 Summer Olympics bids need urgently improvements. Felipe C.S ( talk ) 22:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
As the aforementioned article is in the scope of this project, I thought I would let project members know of this RfC and ask users to leave their comments on the article's talk page. Thanks. Tbo 157 (talk) 16:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
If wondering if you guys will allow the split of this page into men's and women's tourneys... -- Howard the Duck 06:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, a group of regulars at Template:In the news, is currently being extraordinarily forward thinking and discussing how to handle coverage of the Beijing Olympics results on the Main Page. Consensus seems to be coalescing around the idea of linking to a separate page for Olympics coverage. We'd be interested to hear if you guys already have something planned that we can integrate in, or if you'd be interested in helping maintain the proposed page. Discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Sports on ITN#Olympics and other multiple-sport events and we welcome your participation. Thanks, Banyan Tree 02:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Heads up. The 2008 edition of the Complete Book of the Olympics ( Summer Olympics only) just released in late May. This covers all of the Summer events from the first modern games in Athens, Greece in 1896 to the most recent games in Athens in 2004. I have glanced at it cover to cover and it is a pretty good read though it is loaded with some copy errors. The controversey they had with Swedish Greco-Roman wrestler Mikael Ljungberg and his doping allegations in the 2004 edition has been removed. I contacted the authors about the book earlier today with a few editing issues though I have not received a response. The Winter Olympics book that covers from Chamonix in 1924 to the most recent games at Turin in 2006 should be released toward the end of 2009 in time for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver if publishing trends hold true. Chris ( talk) 20:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm new to the project, but I've managed to turn the 2004 Official report into a database of athletes and results, and I was hoping to update these 'Country at the 2004 Summer Olympics' articles with the official results and entries. However, I wasn't sure if there was any generally accepted template for these articles, or whether there had ever been discussion of one.
Right now, the different sports within the results sections of many of these articles are quite differently formatted, that is for some sports both time/score and placing are shown, for others only placing (even when a time/score is available). Some knockout competitions detail every match by the competitor, some are content with a simple 'defeated in quarterfinals'. Some team events have every match, some only a summary. Canada at the 2004 Summer Olympics is unique in that all the results are all written with sentences, something that would be very tiring to do for ≈200 NOCs.
So, I was wondering if there had been any discussion about these pages, and if not, perhaps we can start one before I embark on standardizing and completing them.
Edged ( talk) 06:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
The Taekwondo article is having a content dispute (running for over 6 months now) and I wondered if anyone from here might be interested in helping to calm things down and help clean up the article as it has been hacked rather badly with reverts and attempts to merge opposing versions. The main debate is on the origins of the art, the talk page gives a good introduction to the views held by the editors, any help would be most appreciated. -- Nate1481( t/ c) 14:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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Is it too early to start populating the subcats of Category:Competitors at the 2008 Summer Olympics? It currently lists people who have qualified for the Games, but since the Games haven't started yet, is it too soon? It's categorizing them by something that hasn't happened yet. Kolindigo ( talk) 21:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I think, before we go any further, it's important to be sure that the list of events I have on my subpage (which should probably be moved to this project, now that I think of it) for the 2008 games is actually what we should be using. I know this was brought up recently, so I think we should just tie up the loose ends (e.g. m vs. metre; Men's tournament vs. Men). I just fixed up Swimming at the 2008 Summer Olympics to reflect what we had there, but there might be some changes I would make to some other events on the list. Anyway, before people make more ridiculous article names like 50 m Freestyle at the 2008 Summer Olympics, I suggest we finalize this, and make sure all the event main pages are set up to be conducive to good data gathering. My list can be found at User:Jared/2008 events, but anyone can move this into our project if you're feeling ambitious! Give me your thoughts and/or edit the page accordingly. Jared (t) 03:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
What do people think of making a special watchlist for the run-up to the Olympics and the games themselves of "hot areas" for vandalism and/or libel, to help make sure things stay clean? The big obvious one would be 2008 Summer Olympics, but all pages or biographical articles that are specific tagets, whether for political reasons or whatever, could go on it. Alternatively, there could be one watchlist with every article on the 2008 Olympics and every athlete there, and another one for heavy vandalism targets. Kolindigo ( talk) 03:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Archery at the 2008 Summer Olympics ![]() Qualification | ||||
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I've started to create the sport per year templates ({{ ArcheryAt2008SummerOlympics}}), which basically only involves copying the 2004 template (I found a list I compiled a while back here) and crosschecking with my 2008 events list. I think this is a good idea in general, to get these templates up on the pages, so that editors will edit the properly-named pages (again, last call!). My question right now, though, is where should I put Qualification subpages on that template? I was thinking something like what's right here on your right, which should work, but if anyone has a better suggestion, let me know. Otherwise, I'll probably implement that when I get the chance to add the rest of the templates. Jared (t) 15:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hi all. I have noticed — through a recent edit of this template — the creation of a separate article for the beach volleyball event at the 2008 Games. I think User:Bib was editing in good faith, but I'm kinda split here now that this hit me in the face: we have examples of different disciplines of a sport that are separately linked in this type of template (e.g. diving, swimming, water polo, etc.), but we also have links to sports which also have multiple disciplines (e.g. canoeing, volleyball) but these disciplines are not given such "priviledge". What should we do? Parutakupiu ( talk) 12:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I just now noticed this section. A couple of days ago, I opened a discussion about the categorization of beach volleyball as a separate sport here. Commenters above are encouraged to reflect their opinions there as well. Neier ( talk) 02:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
In 1908 the Ireland national field hockey team and an Ireland polo team competed in the field hockey and polo competitions. However User:Doma-w objects to members of these team being described as Irish or being placed in categories for Irish Olympians. He has even reverted my attempts to link the hockey players to the above team. Any thoughts Djln-- 86.130.133.59 ( talk) 18:28, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Remember that these 'Ireland' teams did not represent the Republic of Ireland. The were selected from all of Ireland and, (I guess) included athletes from the six counties that make up Northern Ireland which is still part of the United Kingdom today (as of 2008).There are some sports where Ireland is still represented by all-Ireland teams even now (Rugby, cricket, Gaelic football, hurling I think) however the current Irish Olympic organising committee represents the Republic of Ireland and any athlete from Northern Ireland selected to represent Ireland in the Olympics would be part of the Republic of Ireland team. In 1908 athletes from all the parts of Ireland were sent to the Olympics by the British Olympic Committee. Filceolaire ( talk) 12:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
The idea previously mentioned here about highlighting the Olympics on Template:In the news on the Main Page has been proposed at Template talk:In the news#Proposal: Olympics feature during the Beijing Olympics. - Banyan Tree 23:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
i think Independent Olympic Participants is too long, can we change it to Independent Participants ?
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I wonder if somebody has an idea what the distribution is of the amount of competitors per team. Like how many countries send 0-10 athletes, how many 10-25, 25-50, 50-100, 100-200 and more. Is there any idea? I am not asking for exact data or something. More like very, very rough ideas. Miho ( talk) 19:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
There is a discussions on "country", "nation" and "region" at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2000 Summer Olympics medal count. Plus there is a debate about the importance of country size in medals achieved. Your comments are welcome on this and any other issue of the article. Lightmouse ( talk) 08:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Only to be sure, according to this "consensus" [8] wikipedia really wants to show current country code for past Games? E.g. we really want to use the country code BEN for Dahomey in 1972? But Dahomey did not change its name before 1975. So we use the country code BEN three years before the country changed its name? This means that we give this country a name which was unknown in 1972?
Or Romania, do we really want to show for all past Games the wrong country code "ROU" only because it is used today? All over many years Romania used "ROM" why we must change this? Now e.g. the page Romania at the 1988 Summer Olympics only shows "ROU" a country code which was completely unknown in 1988 and the correct code "ROM" is not even mentioned. This is like rewritten history? Kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 23:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
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for all results pages and lists of medalists for all Games. I don't think we want to change this. We could use an alternate style for results pages—instead of using flagIOCathlete
in a single table column, for example, we could put the athlete names in one column and the full names of nations in a second column and don't use the codes at all. However, lists like
List of Olympic medalists in athletics (men) would need to be rewritten, and I don't have a good idea of how to do that.I have created Template:USOC profile to help standardize links to USOC athlete profiles. Kolindigo ( talk) 18:34, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
For the 08 Olympics, are we creating sub-articles for each discipline/event within a sport? For example, I notice with Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics the article has been split off into respective sub-articles for the Men's and Women's competitions. Likewise, weightlifting is having sub-pages created for each weight class. In contrast, sports like field hockey or handball haven't had separate men's and women's sub-articles created yet. Is creating sub-article for each discipline/event within a sport the agreed convention? If so, should we be removing game-specific info from the top-level pages (eg. Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics) as it is now redundant because it is now in sub-pages (eg. Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Men and Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Women). Top-level pages would then become summary pages. Personally I like the idea of splitting each event (weight class, men's/women's comp etc...) into sub-pages and directing the reader through the use of the sport per year templates (eg. {{BasketballAt2008SummerOlympics}}) located on a top-level summary page. Would be really good to get some consensus on this and thus develop consistency to how pages for each sport, discipline, event (weight class, men's/women's etc...) should be arranged. Goldfinger820 ( talk) 06:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm reviving WP:WikiProject Gymnastics, and obviously there is a fair bit of overlap between the project and this one. If assistance is required (and I imagine it will be once the games get underway) then feel free to drop a note over at WT:WikiProject Gymnastics. -- ratarsed ( talk) 13:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Can someone with a good working knowledge of BLP take a look at the Dara Torres article and try to improve it? I know there is enough stuff out there right now that there should be a way to put in the fact that she is going out of her way to combat steroid allegations by volunteering for tests and so on, but I can't think of a good way to do it without hitting up against BLP problems when trying to source the fact that there are allegations in the first place, because from what I can tell, all the allegations are from people saying "there is no way she could do that, she must be on steroids", instead of actual verifiable doping problems. *sigh* Anyone want to take a stab at the article? Kolindigo ( talk) 00:16, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
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I am trying to memorize the Olympic cities, and was pleased to find the list here. Even more pleased to find the sentence that said there are only six cities that have hosted the Olympics more than once. BUT--it looks to me like there are seven.
The six listed in that sentence are Los Angeles, London, Paris, St. Moritz, Lake Placid and Athens. But the list lower on the page has Innsbruck in 1964 and 1976.
I am too new to Wikipedia to edit this myself...wanted to see if others could explain maybe why I'm wrong.
VJGen ( talk) 17:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
In many Youtube´s video like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y_hL5cai-I you can heared the anthem. In this video you can hear the anthem in Greek during the celebrations of the coming of the year 2000 (2000 Today)in Athens. -- Bicko2008 ( talk) 04:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)