Hello, I'm interested in making a page of Shai Navot, current leader of The Opportunities Party.
I asked Schwede66 and he recommended I ask here since he is travelling at the moment.
I want to check if she is noteworthy enough for WP:GNG.
Right now I'm making biographies on the non-obvious figures who play a role in New Zealand history, in hopes to preserve NZ history.
Significant media coverage:
Mentions:
Self sources:
Not that it matters, but when I search "Shai Navot" on Google, "Shai Navot Wikipedia" is shown as a related search. I believe this shows people have been seeking it out.
What do you think?
Nexus000 ( talk) 11:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I am collating a list of public service websites. While I can be confident in the completeness of govt.nz domains, I cannot be sure for other top level domains. Would such a list be okay to publish as a list article or does it not meet criteria for new articles? Philipp.governale ( talk) 04:52, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Several similar photos have been circulating on social media in the last day or so of all the living Prime Ministers except Shipley lined up together at the function for the 150th anniversary of the Press Gallery. I was thinking that if the legal use issues can be dealt with, it would be good to have one for use on Wikipedia - I'm thinking particularly of the List of PMs page, which currently has a photo of a similar sort of gathering in 1992 at the top. My understanding of the rules around image copyright is very minimal, so I guess I'm asking whether someone who knows more can determine whether any of the photos doing the rounds are able to be used, or could be made available to be used. One such photo has been shared by Jacinda Ardern, so would it be worth approaching her office for permission (assuming that they have the rights to it)? I recall that the Labour party were quite cooperative when it came to the use of their candidate photos last year. MW691 ( talk) 17:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
I know some people who work for the Labour Party. I will ask. Nexus000 ( talk) 00:39, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
This person told me this: "Heya! I would recommend getting in touch with Andrew Campbell, her head press sec. You should be able to reach him at andrew.campbell@parliament.govt.nz"
Give that a try. Nexus000 ( talk) 00:50, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I found a clue of who may have taken the photo you are after. No guarantees this is the same person who took the photo you are after, but it is a very similar photo. https://twitter.com/Jasonwalls92/status/1391915189453213696 Nexus000 ( talk) 00:47, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
After a quick google, Brady Dyer is both a photographer and Hutt City Councillor. He can be contacted here: https://www.bradydyer.com/contact-brady-dyer-photography/ http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Your-Council/About-your-Council/Mayor-and-councillors/brady-dyer/ Nexus000 ( talk) 00:50, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Ta-da! Brady Dyer is the man. He's uploaded one of his photos to Commons. How do we give him a public shout out? Schwede 66 01:51, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I plan on making sure all current Members of Parliament have a photo by contacting parties asking them to release the photos of their MPs.
This will be so every current Member of Parliament has a photo of themselves on their page like Labour does.
These photos are here:
Labour and Greens have photos for every MP.
To make sure I get it right, either the photographer needs to send approval or if the photo is commissioned by the party, the party can grant permission?
Nexus000 ( talk) 06:25, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
The page for the New Zealand Chief Ombudsman/ Office of the Ombudsman (New Zealand) has recently been deleted apparently due to copyright concerns. This has left a lot of red links on related pages. Is there another live page we can redirect them to or will we need a new page to be written? Kiwichris ( talk) 06:44, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Is there anyone in New Zealand able to review drafts? I'd encourage you to review Draft:Jazz Thornton.
I believe it passes WP:GNG, is highly topical because she was declared Young New Zealander of the Year and frequently appears in news outlets, and the page will likely be viewed a lot each day when it is published.
It was mostly put on review because I used a Daily Mail article as a reference but I have since removed that reference. Nexus000 ( talk) 12:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
This task force prepared a draft for businessman and political candidate Jake Bezzant in 2020 in case he entered Parliament, but he did not and it had remained a draft on the basis that, having not been elected, he was not notable.
However, with recent coverage of Bezzant, I think that he is now notable even without entering Parliament. He has received coverage for multiple reasons across multiple years from reliable sources. While the draft will need updating, do you think it should be moved to the mainspace? HenryCrun15 ( talk) 05:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Kia ora, Should Government Houses of New Zealand exist? It's not in the traditional list format, like we might expect a list to be, and it's not notable enough to have its own page (in my opinion) as the other pages are in depth enough. Really it just seems like a disambiguation page? Would love some feedback. Nauseous Man ( talk) 06:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Heads up, RFC taking place, which may affect New Zealand political articles. GoodDay ( talk) 21:57, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
New editor here :-) I watched the short doco When Nobody Was Looking (YouTube) today & thought both ACORD and Dr Oliver Sutherland might be considered notable in terms of recent NZ history and RCI into Abuse in Care. Thoughts? Def not my area of expertise, but interested enough to help get something started.Updated to add: realise this may not belong in /politics, but would appreciate a redirec.-- Hineahua ( talk) 08:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Heads up, that the templates used on NZ election pages are up for deletion (see here). I've lost count how many times this has happened! Kiwichris ( talk) 02:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I recently remembered an incident where I got into a brief edit war over the non-inclusion of the Country Party in the 1938 election infobox. I was a relatively new editor then and hadn't realised I needed to establish consensus before changing it. My issue hasn't changed, so I feel I should raise it here as it applies to other pages as well.
In various infoboxes for modern-day elections parties that won seats at the previous election but not at the election concerned are listed in the infobox (e.g. NZ First in 2020, Māori in 2017, Internet Mana in 2014, NZ First in 2008). However, the infoboxes do not include other comparable instances such as the Democrats in 1987, Social Credit in 1969 and indeed the Country Party in 1938. I see this as a fundamental inconsistency. If there is a reason for this, please say so. YttriumShrew ( talk) 01:43, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Update: someone has added the Democrats to the 1987 infobox. YttriumShrew ( talk) 19:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello all, asking for assistance with a slightly odd situation. In Parliament on Thursday morning, Emily Henderson mentioned that Jenny Kirk had just died - see Hansard here [1]. (That has Wednesday's date because it was during an extended sitting). Over the last few days, there has been no mention of her death showing up online, not even a death notice. An MP's remark during debate seems too flimsy a source for this sort of thing, but it's not clear when there'll be anything else to go on. Eventually the Speaker will make the usual formal announcement to the House, but all such observances have been postponed until the whole country is at Level 2 or below (see [2]), which could be a long way off, and in any case there isn't another sitting until the 19th. So I thought I'd ask people to keep an eye out for a mention in print media. I've checked my local paper, but if Kirk still lived in the Auckland area, I'm at the wrong end of the country for anything to show up. MW691 ( talk) 07:32, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
I looked at a few electorate articles and see cases of:
Some of these issues are repeated across multiple articles. Flagging this in case members of the task force wish to fix them. Nurg ( talk) 08:39, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
The background colours in the party sections of the parlboxes on the pages of current and former MPs have been changed to have much darker shading. With some parties' colours, this makes the text virtually unreadable. I think it comes from a edit made to Template:NZ parlbox by User:Primefac, which appears to be part of a wider technical change. The ins and outs of this are all far beyond my knowledge, but I'm sure such a result wasn't the intention. Does anyone know how we can get this fixed? MW691 ( talk) 12:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Revert: There was no discussion or concensus for any of this, and Now I see that
Wikipedia:Index of New Zealand political party meta attributes has been seriously damaged, and categories of templates of political colours and Shortnames have been deleted ... I've just seen notice that there's an AFD notice on
Template:Political party extended meta, which collates colour, shading and shortname for represented parties, both current and historic. All this started because of a boneheaded insistence that non-US English political must use US English in background templates like these. ... and that has caused an avalanche of "good faith" vandalism on this project. This is a lot of repair work, caused by well-meaning editors who've parachuted into this project without bothering to do the least bit of due diligence.
Fan |
talk |
01:54, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Following his appointment as TOP leader I've written a stub for Raf Manji. Its a bit basic, and there's likely more stuff that can be mined out of the existing sources (plus more to find, since I didn't look very hard). Given the number of sources, he should probably have had one some time ago, since he easily passes GNG.-- IdiotSavant ( talk) 02:16, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
I've been looking through List of prime ministers of New Zealand and it seems to me to meet the featured list criteria. I wouldn't want to nominate it myself as I haven't worked on the article much, but would someone else wish to? YttriumShrew ( talk) 01:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Right Now I have moved the page of Dan Rosewarne and Soraya Peke-Mason into articles and they are due to be sworn in after the resignations of Kris Faafoi and Trevor Mallard. Kris Faafoi who is a Minister and Trevor Mallard is also resigning as a Speaker which will take up a diplomatic post in Europe. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced that Deputy Speaker Adrian Ruawhe is nominated for Speaker role. Mallard last week crticised for pefromances which included wrongful trespass notices to five former MPs and blasting music to steer away protesters which he did not want to talk to the media last week. -- Villian Factman ( talk) 14:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Our most important list is now featured! Thanks and congratulations to everyone who has worked on the article. YttriumShrew ( talk) 01:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Recently a user moved Tino rangatiratanga to Tino rangatiratanga (phrase) to create a disambiguation page. I have started a conversation over at talk:Tino rangatiratanga (phrase) to gauge whether this is appropriate. Feel free to add your thoughts to it. Nauseous Man ( talk) 22:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
I suppose we should add a few mayoral bios. They are not inherently notable unless they represent a (big?) city. There are no hard and fast rules where the cutoff would be. Anyway, so that we don't trip over one another, how about the following list for work in draft space and if any of the links turns blue, well, then someone else has started the draft. Feel free to join in. Apart from those below, who I assume are notable, who else is there? If Ben Bell makes it (and numerically, it would be astonishing if Tracy Hicks could still turn this around as there's just 67 special votes to come), we'd have the youngest New Zealand mayor ever. And that in itself generates a lot of publicity; don't worry that he represents Gore District (which isn't exactly a metropolis. So here's my provisional list; please add to it: Schwede 66 01:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
I've started the Phil Mauger page and I intend to work on it more thoroughly but I've never created an article before and am hoping for some collaboration. For example, I have no idea when or where he was born. Regardless, just thought I'd put it here so you amazing people can do your amazing things. AlphaZetta ( talk) 02:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
I Have finished adding the new mayors in, so I am leaving out Kapiti Coast and Gore since they have a margin of less than 200 to 11 respectively. Villian Factman ( talk) 14:14, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
So now that Gaurav Sharma said he will resign as MP for Hamilton West and force a by-election should we start a page for it yet or should we wait a bit? The reason I ask is that a few years ago Jami-Lee Ross said he would do the exact same thing in Botany and a Wikipedia page for it was created only for the by-election to never happen. Kiwichris ( talk) 05:55, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
We ought to have a draft ready for Tama Potaka; there's every indication that he'll win. Could somebody with time on their hand please start a draft? Schwede 66 20:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I'm interested in making a page of Shai Navot, current leader of The Opportunities Party.
I asked Schwede66 and he recommended I ask here since he is travelling at the moment.
I want to check if she is noteworthy enough for WP:GNG.
Right now I'm making biographies on the non-obvious figures who play a role in New Zealand history, in hopes to preserve NZ history.
Significant media coverage:
Mentions:
Self sources:
Not that it matters, but when I search "Shai Navot" on Google, "Shai Navot Wikipedia" is shown as a related search. I believe this shows people have been seeking it out.
What do you think?
Nexus000 ( talk) 11:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I am collating a list of public service websites. While I can be confident in the completeness of govt.nz domains, I cannot be sure for other top level domains. Would such a list be okay to publish as a list article or does it not meet criteria for new articles? Philipp.governale ( talk) 04:52, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Several similar photos have been circulating on social media in the last day or so of all the living Prime Ministers except Shipley lined up together at the function for the 150th anniversary of the Press Gallery. I was thinking that if the legal use issues can be dealt with, it would be good to have one for use on Wikipedia - I'm thinking particularly of the List of PMs page, which currently has a photo of a similar sort of gathering in 1992 at the top. My understanding of the rules around image copyright is very minimal, so I guess I'm asking whether someone who knows more can determine whether any of the photos doing the rounds are able to be used, or could be made available to be used. One such photo has been shared by Jacinda Ardern, so would it be worth approaching her office for permission (assuming that they have the rights to it)? I recall that the Labour party were quite cooperative when it came to the use of their candidate photos last year. MW691 ( talk) 17:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
I know some people who work for the Labour Party. I will ask. Nexus000 ( talk) 00:39, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
This person told me this: "Heya! I would recommend getting in touch with Andrew Campbell, her head press sec. You should be able to reach him at andrew.campbell@parliament.govt.nz"
Give that a try. Nexus000 ( talk) 00:50, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I found a clue of who may have taken the photo you are after. No guarantees this is the same person who took the photo you are after, but it is a very similar photo. https://twitter.com/Jasonwalls92/status/1391915189453213696 Nexus000 ( talk) 00:47, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
After a quick google, Brady Dyer is both a photographer and Hutt City Councillor. He can be contacted here: https://www.bradydyer.com/contact-brady-dyer-photography/ http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Your-Council/About-your-Council/Mayor-and-councillors/brady-dyer/ Nexus000 ( talk) 00:50, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Ta-da! Brady Dyer is the man. He's uploaded one of his photos to Commons. How do we give him a public shout out? Schwede 66 01:51, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I plan on making sure all current Members of Parliament have a photo by contacting parties asking them to release the photos of their MPs.
This will be so every current Member of Parliament has a photo of themselves on their page like Labour does.
These photos are here:
Labour and Greens have photos for every MP.
To make sure I get it right, either the photographer needs to send approval or if the photo is commissioned by the party, the party can grant permission?
Nexus000 ( talk) 06:25, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
The page for the New Zealand Chief Ombudsman/ Office of the Ombudsman (New Zealand) has recently been deleted apparently due to copyright concerns. This has left a lot of red links on related pages. Is there another live page we can redirect them to or will we need a new page to be written? Kiwichris ( talk) 06:44, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Is there anyone in New Zealand able to review drafts? I'd encourage you to review Draft:Jazz Thornton.
I believe it passes WP:GNG, is highly topical because she was declared Young New Zealander of the Year and frequently appears in news outlets, and the page will likely be viewed a lot each day when it is published.
It was mostly put on review because I used a Daily Mail article as a reference but I have since removed that reference. Nexus000 ( talk) 12:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
This task force prepared a draft for businessman and political candidate Jake Bezzant in 2020 in case he entered Parliament, but he did not and it had remained a draft on the basis that, having not been elected, he was not notable.
However, with recent coverage of Bezzant, I think that he is now notable even without entering Parliament. He has received coverage for multiple reasons across multiple years from reliable sources. While the draft will need updating, do you think it should be moved to the mainspace? HenryCrun15 ( talk) 05:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Kia ora, Should Government Houses of New Zealand exist? It's not in the traditional list format, like we might expect a list to be, and it's not notable enough to have its own page (in my opinion) as the other pages are in depth enough. Really it just seems like a disambiguation page? Would love some feedback. Nauseous Man ( talk) 06:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Heads up, RFC taking place, which may affect New Zealand political articles. GoodDay ( talk) 21:57, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
New editor here :-) I watched the short doco When Nobody Was Looking (YouTube) today & thought both ACORD and Dr Oliver Sutherland might be considered notable in terms of recent NZ history and RCI into Abuse in Care. Thoughts? Def not my area of expertise, but interested enough to help get something started.Updated to add: realise this may not belong in /politics, but would appreciate a redirec.-- Hineahua ( talk) 08:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Heads up, that the templates used on NZ election pages are up for deletion (see here). I've lost count how many times this has happened! Kiwichris ( talk) 02:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I recently remembered an incident where I got into a brief edit war over the non-inclusion of the Country Party in the 1938 election infobox. I was a relatively new editor then and hadn't realised I needed to establish consensus before changing it. My issue hasn't changed, so I feel I should raise it here as it applies to other pages as well.
In various infoboxes for modern-day elections parties that won seats at the previous election but not at the election concerned are listed in the infobox (e.g. NZ First in 2020, Māori in 2017, Internet Mana in 2014, NZ First in 2008). However, the infoboxes do not include other comparable instances such as the Democrats in 1987, Social Credit in 1969 and indeed the Country Party in 1938. I see this as a fundamental inconsistency. If there is a reason for this, please say so. YttriumShrew ( talk) 01:43, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Update: someone has added the Democrats to the 1987 infobox. YttriumShrew ( talk) 19:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello all, asking for assistance with a slightly odd situation. In Parliament on Thursday morning, Emily Henderson mentioned that Jenny Kirk had just died - see Hansard here [1]. (That has Wednesday's date because it was during an extended sitting). Over the last few days, there has been no mention of her death showing up online, not even a death notice. An MP's remark during debate seems too flimsy a source for this sort of thing, but it's not clear when there'll be anything else to go on. Eventually the Speaker will make the usual formal announcement to the House, but all such observances have been postponed until the whole country is at Level 2 or below (see [2]), which could be a long way off, and in any case there isn't another sitting until the 19th. So I thought I'd ask people to keep an eye out for a mention in print media. I've checked my local paper, but if Kirk still lived in the Auckland area, I'm at the wrong end of the country for anything to show up. MW691 ( talk) 07:32, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
I looked at a few electorate articles and see cases of:
Some of these issues are repeated across multiple articles. Flagging this in case members of the task force wish to fix them. Nurg ( talk) 08:39, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
The background colours in the party sections of the parlboxes on the pages of current and former MPs have been changed to have much darker shading. With some parties' colours, this makes the text virtually unreadable. I think it comes from a edit made to Template:NZ parlbox by User:Primefac, which appears to be part of a wider technical change. The ins and outs of this are all far beyond my knowledge, but I'm sure such a result wasn't the intention. Does anyone know how we can get this fixed? MW691 ( talk) 12:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Revert: There was no discussion or concensus for any of this, and Now I see that
Wikipedia:Index of New Zealand political party meta attributes has been seriously damaged, and categories of templates of political colours and Shortnames have been deleted ... I've just seen notice that there's an AFD notice on
Template:Political party extended meta, which collates colour, shading and shortname for represented parties, both current and historic. All this started because of a boneheaded insistence that non-US English political must use US English in background templates like these. ... and that has caused an avalanche of "good faith" vandalism on this project. This is a lot of repair work, caused by well-meaning editors who've parachuted into this project without bothering to do the least bit of due diligence.
Fan |
talk |
01:54, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Following his appointment as TOP leader I've written a stub for Raf Manji. Its a bit basic, and there's likely more stuff that can be mined out of the existing sources (plus more to find, since I didn't look very hard). Given the number of sources, he should probably have had one some time ago, since he easily passes GNG.-- IdiotSavant ( talk) 02:16, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
I've been looking through List of prime ministers of New Zealand and it seems to me to meet the featured list criteria. I wouldn't want to nominate it myself as I haven't worked on the article much, but would someone else wish to? YttriumShrew ( talk) 01:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Right Now I have moved the page of Dan Rosewarne and Soraya Peke-Mason into articles and they are due to be sworn in after the resignations of Kris Faafoi and Trevor Mallard. Kris Faafoi who is a Minister and Trevor Mallard is also resigning as a Speaker which will take up a diplomatic post in Europe. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced that Deputy Speaker Adrian Ruawhe is nominated for Speaker role. Mallard last week crticised for pefromances which included wrongful trespass notices to five former MPs and blasting music to steer away protesters which he did not want to talk to the media last week. -- Villian Factman ( talk) 14:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Our most important list is now featured! Thanks and congratulations to everyone who has worked on the article. YttriumShrew ( talk) 01:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Recently a user moved Tino rangatiratanga to Tino rangatiratanga (phrase) to create a disambiguation page. I have started a conversation over at talk:Tino rangatiratanga (phrase) to gauge whether this is appropriate. Feel free to add your thoughts to it. Nauseous Man ( talk) 22:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
I suppose we should add a few mayoral bios. They are not inherently notable unless they represent a (big?) city. There are no hard and fast rules where the cutoff would be. Anyway, so that we don't trip over one another, how about the following list for work in draft space and if any of the links turns blue, well, then someone else has started the draft. Feel free to join in. Apart from those below, who I assume are notable, who else is there? If Ben Bell makes it (and numerically, it would be astonishing if Tracy Hicks could still turn this around as there's just 67 special votes to come), we'd have the youngest New Zealand mayor ever. And that in itself generates a lot of publicity; don't worry that he represents Gore District (which isn't exactly a metropolis. So here's my provisional list; please add to it: Schwede 66 01:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
I've started the Phil Mauger page and I intend to work on it more thoroughly but I've never created an article before and am hoping for some collaboration. For example, I have no idea when or where he was born. Regardless, just thought I'd put it here so you amazing people can do your amazing things. AlphaZetta ( talk) 02:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
I Have finished adding the new mayors in, so I am leaving out Kapiti Coast and Gore since they have a margin of less than 200 to 11 respectively. Villian Factman ( talk) 14:14, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
So now that Gaurav Sharma said he will resign as MP for Hamilton West and force a by-election should we start a page for it yet or should we wait a bit? The reason I ask is that a few years ago Jami-Lee Ross said he would do the exact same thing in Botany and a Wikipedia page for it was created only for the by-election to never happen. Kiwichris ( talk) 05:55, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
We ought to have a draft ready for Tama Potaka; there's every indication that he'll win. Could somebody with time on their hand please start a draft? Schwede 66 20:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)