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Here it is: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 September 26#All-NBA and NBL Teams. Thanks. Jrcla2 ( talk) 20:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Per #Career_highlights_order discussion above, I updated Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Any final comments?— Bagumba ( talk) 23:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
NBA camps started Monday. I saw this tweet on Sunday from DeShawn Sims. Does anyone know if he signed with someone?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 14:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the use and display of the "league" field in {{ Infobox basketball biography}} at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#.22league.22_field_in_infobox.2C_revisited.— Bagumba ( talk) 15:52, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Could it be possible to start throwing ideas around for a manual of style on team season articles? The 1975–76 Buffalo Braves season is rated as a good article so I thought we could take it from there. Xaviersc ( talk) 23:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Can somebody rescue this article? Tons of content removed (including the lead and his entire college career) with no explanation. My access doesn't allow me to restore the edits automatically so I am hoping somebody here can restore an earlier version. Rikster2 ( talk) 12:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
There is move request that may be interesting to all of you. -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 14:26, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Could use some more input at Talk:Andrew_Bynum#Deleted_text_on_Orlando.— Bagumba ( talk) 17:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I think 2011 NBA lockout is well written enough to be nominated for GA. If no one objects, I will nominate it. Thanks.— Chris! c/ t 02:21, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Can someone take a look at the Norris Cole article? A user is angrily insisting that Cole's weight be listed as 174.4 pounds, exactly (rather than 175, which is what NBA.com has). This isn't even the first time the issue has come up; someone tried to do the same thing about a year ago. A basketball player's weight is going to fluctuate over a season - even within a single practice, a player probably loses at least a pound of sweat - so I don't know why anyone would want such precision in the infobox. Zagalejo ^^^ 04:27, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I have been following this weight controversy for a while. I agree with the need for consistency, but if we are going to use NBA.com as the official statistics then there also has to be consistency with that. For example, look at the stats that are listed, many stats on NBA.com are excluded from Norris Cole's wikipedia page like turnovers. Why is this? Also, there stats that begin with 0 such as 0.5 omit the 0 on wikipedia but do not on NBA.com. We cannot be inconsistent in one area yet demand consistency in other areas, because that by definition is inconsistent. Rat8787 ( talk) 00:58, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
A depth chart was removed from Los Angeles Lakers, which I tend to agree with. Even if it were sourced from ESPN, I would argue that it can't be verified when the site last updated its chart, and that it doesnt reflect that Bryant can play SF, Gasol can play C, etc. Should all depth charts from articles be removed (e.g. 2012–13 Los Angeles Lakers season, Miami Heat, etc.)? If not, how do we make sure they are verifiable as of a specific date, or deal with multiple sources with different depth charts?— Bagumba ( talk) 21:37, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
I've done the bold part of WP:BRD and removed depth charts from all team articles for the current season. I'll monitor, but others can also help either revert if it's re-added or invite editors here for further discussion as needed.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:36, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Despite asking an IP to discuss, they seem to prefer to edit war on 2012–13 Indiana Pacers season— Bagumba ( talk) 21:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
In an earlier discussion, there was thoughts of going to generic G/F/C positions for players as that is what nba/bbref use, and original research sometime creeps in with PG/SG/SF/PF, especially with a lot of players being interchangeable. We now have LeBron James changed to a "point forward". Even if we argue that point forward is not an official position, do we still list him as SF when he often plays PF as well?— Bagumba ( talk) 00:24, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't sure so I decided to ask. Do we need this article? -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 12:22, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Awhile back I started a list of on-line basketball sources on my userpage to help with researching player and coach articles. Essentially it's a list of links to international league player databases, etc. User:Jrcla2 recently appended these to appear as a resource link for WP:College Basketball and I thought they would be useful to editors here as well. Here is the link: Wikipedia:WikiProject College basketball/Research sources. Enjoy! Rikster2 ( talk) 15:44, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
FYI - I just created 2012 NBA Development League Draft. If anyone wants to expand it a bit to make it DYK-eligible, then go in on a joint-DYK nomination, feel free and let me know. Jrcla2 ( talk) 16:49, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Anyone know what his status is? He's been linked to a couple of Chinese teams within the last couple of weeks, and some sources are saying that he has signed with the Shanghai Sharks, but I don't see anything at (what I think is) their team website: http://www.shanghaisharks.cn/. Looking for information on the CBA is difficult for me, so if anyone has any information, please post a comment! Thanks. Zagalejo ^^^ 18:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
For the seasons for the Baltimore Bullets the Template:Infobox NBA Season is linking the team name at the top of the infobox, the problem is that there was more than one Baltimore Bullet team, the earlier one that went under and the newer one that is now the Wizards. Can someone alter the Template so that an additional argument can be added if necessary indicating where the team link should link to? Naraht ( talk) 17:48, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
team
as Baltimore Bullets (1944–1954){{!}}Baltimore Bullets
. Not the most elegant perhaps, but it is working.—
Bagumba (
talk)
18:09, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Age_group_medal_boxes regarding medal boxes for U16-U21 FIBA medalists.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 18:18, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Comment: modifying the title for CB3. Protecting the braces using {{ ... }} rather than <nowiki>...</nowiki>. Pldx1 ( talk) 10:02, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
What is wrong with the ESPN parameter at {{ basketballstats}}? It is not showing at Evan Turner.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 20:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Comment: modifying the title for CB3. Protecting the braces using {{ ... }} rather than <nowiki>...</nowiki>. Pldx1 ( talk) 10:02, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
While researching another issue I have found that there has been no effort to tag talk pages with {{ WikiProject NBA}} and {{ WikiProject College basketball}} for lottery pick type players. I was looking at 2010 FIBA Under-17 World Championship squads regarding another issue and noticed that people like Bradley Beal, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Marquis Teague are all without these templates on their talk pages. I know a lot of people make sure that the articles get the proper roster templates and as well as categories for X Team players and X Team draft picks. There should be some effort to tag talk pages.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 17:56, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian ( talk) 02:47, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Donald Sloan's entire tenure with the Cavaliers took place in the year 2012, but across parts of two different seasons (2011-12 and 2012-13). How should I format the {{nbay|...}} dates in the infobox? I don't think we should display the dates as 2012–2012. I imagine this has come up before, but I don't know how it should be handled. Thanks! Zagalejo ^^^ 06:19, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I was making some edits to Marqus Blakely and noticed that a user had added the Rockets to the club history in the infobox. It looks like he was clearly on the team and dressed for a game, but never entered the game. Should the club show on the infobox history and should the category be applied? I can see the thinking of adding it as the person was technically on the team under contract in-season, but my concern is that while these situations are relatively easy to track down and cite in the internet age, they also happened historically and are nearly impossible to verify in those situations. Has this ever been discussed? Rikster2 ( talk) 14:03, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
I think the team & position field in the template should be disabled for coaches. People often add stuffs to both fields. This is confusing and problematic when coaches are retired players. Thoughts?— Chris! c/ t 03:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Interesting edit summary from IP 203.217.29.187 on the Jonny Flynn article: "In infobox, it's not clear why all non-NBA leagues are in parentheses, and the NBA isn't (as if it's *the* standard and therefore its identification's deemed superfluous (why?))" I think it is helpful for users to see what league/country each club that a player competed in, and in most cases the convention (though never really discussed) has been to note country or league in parentheses next to the club name - except for the NBA. Personally, I think the NBA is clearly the world standard for basketball leagues - but I wonder if it might not be time to flesh out how this should appear in the infobox (perhaps in partnership with WP:Basketball). Thoughts? Rikster2 ( talk) 16:53, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
The current options seem to be:
— Bagumba ( talk) 18:12, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I have started a conversation at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Picture_series_in_articles regarding adding picture series to articles.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 16:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
See discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Overforking_of_articles.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 23:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Did I overdo the WP:CAPTION at Shot clock? Comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_Basketball#Shot_clock.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 17:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Anyone know exactly when it began and when it ended? See Talk:Dennis_Rodman#marriages. Thanks. Zagalejo ^^^ 05:24, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I have a proposition that some of you may find intriguing. How would you feel about making an attempt to catalog every triple-double in NBA history? Even though basketball-reference.com only uses stats going back to the 80s, there are still sites online where you can find box scores from past games I believe. The way we could sort them is by making a link on each franchise's page saying something like Triple Doubles in Boston Celtics History (or whatever other team). Just a thought... Coulraphobic123 ( talk) 06:17, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
This topic has come up in a few articles. Can we agree that it serves no purpose to mention that a player was in the NBA Finals in XXXX year or YY number of times, but tease and not also say in the lead whether he won or not. I propose the following guidelines for the lead:
— Bagumba ( talk) 08:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Note: User:James edwin has been invited here, due to possible interest based on his past edits.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello- We have somewhat inconsistently applied country or league (in the case of minor leagues like the D-League or CBA) after each club in the club history section of the infobox. At first these were linked to the actual country name, but that was later changed to the league displaying as the country name. But with most European leagues using a relegation system, linking the leagues brought many errors - people linking the French Pro A when the team split time between Pro A and Pro B during the players' tenure for example. When the league model is followed to the letter, you get infoboxes like Oscar Schmidt, where he played three seasons with the same club but it displays as theree entries because of relegation/promotion moves. I say we just show the club and try to ensure countries and leagues are spelled out in the prose. What do others think? Hoping we can get a consensus because right now it is inconsistent as all get out. I posted primarily to WP:Basketball, but there ire implications to WP:NBA too for D-League assignments, players who join the league from abroad, etc. Rikster2 ( talk) 16:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Some more opinions could be useful at Talk:Jonas Valančiūnas. Thanks. Zagalejo ^^^ 06:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Inspired by basketball-reference.com format, I updated
Malcolm_Lee_(basketball)#Regular_season to have the "team" column point to the team season article instead of just pointing to the generic team article e.g. [[2012–13 Minnesota Timberwolves season|Minnesota]]
, not [[Minnesota Timberwolves|Minnesota]]
. This provides convenient links to the relevant team season articles, whereas we currently only have links to the generic NBA season articles in the "year" column. I'm not usually a big updater of stat tables, so if others like the idea, hopefully we'll get them slowly converted.—
Bagumba (
talk)
08:56, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
All - an unusual case at Scott Machado. He played for the Rockets, was on assignment to the Rio Grande Valley Vipers, was cut by the Rockets and was subsequently re-signed by the Valley Vipers. The sum of all this is two consecutive entries for the Valley Vipers, one with an arrow showing assignment from an NBA club, then another with no arrow but covering the same season. In my opinion, this is too complex player movement to try to depict in the club history of the infobox. Should Machado finish the season with RG, in ten years this will make no sense historically. IMO, His contract status (cut by the Rockets and re-signed by the Vipers) should be explained in the prose, but the club history just needs to explain the result - he split he season between the Rockets and Vipers. But we need consensus. There are many cases of players shuttling between the NBA and CBA that don't try to depict multiple moves between the major and minor league club and this instance should be no different IMO. Rikster2 ( talk) 04:01, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
There is a new article, Ideal team, that deals with virtual teams of top players like the All-NBA Team. You are invited to discuss at Talk:Ideal team how best to handle this.— Bagumba ( talk) 02:28, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
I was inspired by the Timeline of Major League Baseball, I decided to create a timeline of NBA franchises, with the idea of placing it at Timeline of the NBA. It's currently in my sandbox, check it out here. I'd appreciate comments and corrections. Fitnr ( talk) 17:55, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
What is going on with this project? It is quite active, but there have been no WP:NBA articles promoted to WP:FA since Magic Johnson on 2009-04-18. It seems pretty likely that the project is going to go 4 years without an FA. I am unable to get almost any feedback at WP:FAC, despite the project's current active state.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 13:56, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Just wondering: is there a one-stop source that lists all the NBA team captains? Thanks. Zagalejo ^^^ 02:57, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Was wondering what we should with them, e.g. Greg Somogyi or Darius Johnson-Odom. I didn't think it was a good idea to create the articles when their contracts weren't even guaranteed. Somogyi's article has been hit with a {{ notability}} tag, but i'd like more guidance: AFD, PROD, or leave alone? hbdragon88 ( talk) 02:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello - I started a discussion on this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball#Abbreviations for college names in infoboxes. Please stop by and register your opinion so we can get to speedy consensus on this matter. Thanks! Rikster2 ( talk) 21:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Template_talk:NBA_color#Readability_of_Miami_Heat_colors.— Bagumba ( talk) 02:31, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Today, there has been a lot of activity at the Donyell Marshall page in response to this Bill Simmons column, which says, "How has someone not added 'First athlete to definitively prove Dave Cirilli's Ewing Theory' to Donyell's Wikipedia page yet?" I've semiprotected the Marshall article, but some older accounts might come out of the woodwork, so it would be helpful to get some extra eyes on the page. (We might also see some spillover into other articles.) Zagalejo ^^^ 03:28, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Here's an article on the improvements. Too bad, for example, the stats for Chris Paul don't seem to be linked to his NBA.com profile.— Bagumba ( talk) 07:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
It has been nearly 4 years (2009-APR-19, Magic Johnson) since this project has had an FAC promoted. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Juwan Howard/archive5 now open. Please consider reviewing this article.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 15:07, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
User:Moxy removed all templates at the bottom of the Michael Jordan article, calling them spam. I don't think they are spam and allow readers to navigate between articles. Can someone join the discussion at Talk:Michael Jordan?— Chris! c/ t 20:46, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Someone removed two names from Template:Miami Heat 2011–12 NBA champions taking the roster size down to 13. For an NBA team 13 dress, but they can have up to 15 on the NBA roster. Often, #14 and #15 are on assignment in the NBADL, but they are often with the big club in civvies, especially at playoff time. When in comes to championship roster templates the number of players listed varies if you look at Category:National Basketball Association Championship navigational boxes. Here are some quick counts 2011: 15, 2010: 13, 2009: 14, 2008: 15, 2007: 15, 2006: 15, 2005: 15. How many should be on a template?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 08:38, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
How do you verify who received a ring? Especially for historic titles? Rikster2 ( talk) 00:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
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Here it is: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 September 26#All-NBA and NBL Teams. Thanks. Jrcla2 ( talk) 20:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Per #Career_highlights_order discussion above, I updated Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Any final comments?— Bagumba ( talk) 23:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
NBA camps started Monday. I saw this tweet on Sunday from DeShawn Sims. Does anyone know if he signed with someone?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 14:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the use and display of the "league" field in {{ Infobox basketball biography}} at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#.22league.22_field_in_infobox.2C_revisited.— Bagumba ( talk) 15:52, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Could it be possible to start throwing ideas around for a manual of style on team season articles? The 1975–76 Buffalo Braves season is rated as a good article so I thought we could take it from there. Xaviersc ( talk) 23:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Can somebody rescue this article? Tons of content removed (including the lead and his entire college career) with no explanation. My access doesn't allow me to restore the edits automatically so I am hoping somebody here can restore an earlier version. Rikster2 ( talk) 12:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
There is move request that may be interesting to all of you. -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 14:26, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Could use some more input at Talk:Andrew_Bynum#Deleted_text_on_Orlando.— Bagumba ( talk) 17:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I think 2011 NBA lockout is well written enough to be nominated for GA. If no one objects, I will nominate it. Thanks.— Chris! c/ t 02:21, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Can someone take a look at the Norris Cole article? A user is angrily insisting that Cole's weight be listed as 174.4 pounds, exactly (rather than 175, which is what NBA.com has). This isn't even the first time the issue has come up; someone tried to do the same thing about a year ago. A basketball player's weight is going to fluctuate over a season - even within a single practice, a player probably loses at least a pound of sweat - so I don't know why anyone would want such precision in the infobox. Zagalejo ^^^ 04:27, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I have been following this weight controversy for a while. I agree with the need for consistency, but if we are going to use NBA.com as the official statistics then there also has to be consistency with that. For example, look at the stats that are listed, many stats on NBA.com are excluded from Norris Cole's wikipedia page like turnovers. Why is this? Also, there stats that begin with 0 such as 0.5 omit the 0 on wikipedia but do not on NBA.com. We cannot be inconsistent in one area yet demand consistency in other areas, because that by definition is inconsistent. Rat8787 ( talk) 00:58, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
A depth chart was removed from Los Angeles Lakers, which I tend to agree with. Even if it were sourced from ESPN, I would argue that it can't be verified when the site last updated its chart, and that it doesnt reflect that Bryant can play SF, Gasol can play C, etc. Should all depth charts from articles be removed (e.g. 2012–13 Los Angeles Lakers season, Miami Heat, etc.)? If not, how do we make sure they are verifiable as of a specific date, or deal with multiple sources with different depth charts?— Bagumba ( talk) 21:37, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
I've done the bold part of WP:BRD and removed depth charts from all team articles for the current season. I'll monitor, but others can also help either revert if it's re-added or invite editors here for further discussion as needed.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:36, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Despite asking an IP to discuss, they seem to prefer to edit war on 2012–13 Indiana Pacers season— Bagumba ( talk) 21:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
In an earlier discussion, there was thoughts of going to generic G/F/C positions for players as that is what nba/bbref use, and original research sometime creeps in with PG/SG/SF/PF, especially with a lot of players being interchangeable. We now have LeBron James changed to a "point forward". Even if we argue that point forward is not an official position, do we still list him as SF when he often plays PF as well?— Bagumba ( talk) 00:24, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't sure so I decided to ask. Do we need this article? -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 12:22, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Awhile back I started a list of on-line basketball sources on my userpage to help with researching player and coach articles. Essentially it's a list of links to international league player databases, etc. User:Jrcla2 recently appended these to appear as a resource link for WP:College Basketball and I thought they would be useful to editors here as well. Here is the link: Wikipedia:WikiProject College basketball/Research sources. Enjoy! Rikster2 ( talk) 15:44, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
FYI - I just created 2012 NBA Development League Draft. If anyone wants to expand it a bit to make it DYK-eligible, then go in on a joint-DYK nomination, feel free and let me know. Jrcla2 ( talk) 16:49, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Anyone know what his status is? He's been linked to a couple of Chinese teams within the last couple of weeks, and some sources are saying that he has signed with the Shanghai Sharks, but I don't see anything at (what I think is) their team website: http://www.shanghaisharks.cn/. Looking for information on the CBA is difficult for me, so if anyone has any information, please post a comment! Thanks. Zagalejo ^^^ 18:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
For the seasons for the Baltimore Bullets the Template:Infobox NBA Season is linking the team name at the top of the infobox, the problem is that there was more than one Baltimore Bullet team, the earlier one that went under and the newer one that is now the Wizards. Can someone alter the Template so that an additional argument can be added if necessary indicating where the team link should link to? Naraht ( talk) 17:48, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
team
as Baltimore Bullets (1944–1954){{!}}Baltimore Bullets
. Not the most elegant perhaps, but it is working.—
Bagumba (
talk)
18:09, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Age_group_medal_boxes regarding medal boxes for U16-U21 FIBA medalists.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 18:18, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Comment: modifying the title for CB3. Protecting the braces using {{ ... }} rather than <nowiki>...</nowiki>. Pldx1 ( talk) 10:02, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
What is wrong with the ESPN parameter at {{ basketballstats}}? It is not showing at Evan Turner.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 20:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Comment: modifying the title for CB3. Protecting the braces using {{ ... }} rather than <nowiki>...</nowiki>. Pldx1 ( talk) 10:02, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
While researching another issue I have found that there has been no effort to tag talk pages with {{ WikiProject NBA}} and {{ WikiProject College basketball}} for lottery pick type players. I was looking at 2010 FIBA Under-17 World Championship squads regarding another issue and noticed that people like Bradley Beal, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Marquis Teague are all without these templates on their talk pages. I know a lot of people make sure that the articles get the proper roster templates and as well as categories for X Team players and X Team draft picks. There should be some effort to tag talk pages.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 17:56, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian ( talk) 02:47, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Donald Sloan's entire tenure with the Cavaliers took place in the year 2012, but across parts of two different seasons (2011-12 and 2012-13). How should I format the {{nbay|...}} dates in the infobox? I don't think we should display the dates as 2012–2012. I imagine this has come up before, but I don't know how it should be handled. Thanks! Zagalejo ^^^ 06:19, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I was making some edits to Marqus Blakely and noticed that a user had added the Rockets to the club history in the infobox. It looks like he was clearly on the team and dressed for a game, but never entered the game. Should the club show on the infobox history and should the category be applied? I can see the thinking of adding it as the person was technically on the team under contract in-season, but my concern is that while these situations are relatively easy to track down and cite in the internet age, they also happened historically and are nearly impossible to verify in those situations. Has this ever been discussed? Rikster2 ( talk) 14:03, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
I think the team & position field in the template should be disabled for coaches. People often add stuffs to both fields. This is confusing and problematic when coaches are retired players. Thoughts?— Chris! c/ t 03:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Interesting edit summary from IP 203.217.29.187 on the Jonny Flynn article: "In infobox, it's not clear why all non-NBA leagues are in parentheses, and the NBA isn't (as if it's *the* standard and therefore its identification's deemed superfluous (why?))" I think it is helpful for users to see what league/country each club that a player competed in, and in most cases the convention (though never really discussed) has been to note country or league in parentheses next to the club name - except for the NBA. Personally, I think the NBA is clearly the world standard for basketball leagues - but I wonder if it might not be time to flesh out how this should appear in the infobox (perhaps in partnership with WP:Basketball). Thoughts? Rikster2 ( talk) 16:53, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
The current options seem to be:
— Bagumba ( talk) 18:12, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I have started a conversation at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Picture_series_in_articles regarding adding picture series to articles.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 16:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
See discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Overforking_of_articles.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 23:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Did I overdo the WP:CAPTION at Shot clock? Comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_Basketball#Shot_clock.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 17:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Anyone know exactly when it began and when it ended? See Talk:Dennis_Rodman#marriages. Thanks. Zagalejo ^^^ 05:24, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I have a proposition that some of you may find intriguing. How would you feel about making an attempt to catalog every triple-double in NBA history? Even though basketball-reference.com only uses stats going back to the 80s, there are still sites online where you can find box scores from past games I believe. The way we could sort them is by making a link on each franchise's page saying something like Triple Doubles in Boston Celtics History (or whatever other team). Just a thought... Coulraphobic123 ( talk) 06:17, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
This topic has come up in a few articles. Can we agree that it serves no purpose to mention that a player was in the NBA Finals in XXXX year or YY number of times, but tease and not also say in the lead whether he won or not. I propose the following guidelines for the lead:
— Bagumba ( talk) 08:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Note: User:James edwin has been invited here, due to possible interest based on his past edits.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello- We have somewhat inconsistently applied country or league (in the case of minor leagues like the D-League or CBA) after each club in the club history section of the infobox. At first these were linked to the actual country name, but that was later changed to the league displaying as the country name. But with most European leagues using a relegation system, linking the leagues brought many errors - people linking the French Pro A when the team split time between Pro A and Pro B during the players' tenure for example. When the league model is followed to the letter, you get infoboxes like Oscar Schmidt, where he played three seasons with the same club but it displays as theree entries because of relegation/promotion moves. I say we just show the club and try to ensure countries and leagues are spelled out in the prose. What do others think? Hoping we can get a consensus because right now it is inconsistent as all get out. I posted primarily to WP:Basketball, but there ire implications to WP:NBA too for D-League assignments, players who join the league from abroad, etc. Rikster2 ( talk) 16:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Some more opinions could be useful at Talk:Jonas Valančiūnas. Thanks. Zagalejo ^^^ 06:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Inspired by basketball-reference.com format, I updated
Malcolm_Lee_(basketball)#Regular_season to have the "team" column point to the team season article instead of just pointing to the generic team article e.g. [[2012–13 Minnesota Timberwolves season|Minnesota]]
, not [[Minnesota Timberwolves|Minnesota]]
. This provides convenient links to the relevant team season articles, whereas we currently only have links to the generic NBA season articles in the "year" column. I'm not usually a big updater of stat tables, so if others like the idea, hopefully we'll get them slowly converted.—
Bagumba (
talk)
08:56, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
All - an unusual case at Scott Machado. He played for the Rockets, was on assignment to the Rio Grande Valley Vipers, was cut by the Rockets and was subsequently re-signed by the Valley Vipers. The sum of all this is two consecutive entries for the Valley Vipers, one with an arrow showing assignment from an NBA club, then another with no arrow but covering the same season. In my opinion, this is too complex player movement to try to depict in the club history of the infobox. Should Machado finish the season with RG, in ten years this will make no sense historically. IMO, His contract status (cut by the Rockets and re-signed by the Vipers) should be explained in the prose, but the club history just needs to explain the result - he split he season between the Rockets and Vipers. But we need consensus. There are many cases of players shuttling between the NBA and CBA that don't try to depict multiple moves between the major and minor league club and this instance should be no different IMO. Rikster2 ( talk) 04:01, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
There is a new article, Ideal team, that deals with virtual teams of top players like the All-NBA Team. You are invited to discuss at Talk:Ideal team how best to handle this.— Bagumba ( talk) 02:28, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
I was inspired by the Timeline of Major League Baseball, I decided to create a timeline of NBA franchises, with the idea of placing it at Timeline of the NBA. It's currently in my sandbox, check it out here. I'd appreciate comments and corrections. Fitnr ( talk) 17:55, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
What is going on with this project? It is quite active, but there have been no WP:NBA articles promoted to WP:FA since Magic Johnson on 2009-04-18. It seems pretty likely that the project is going to go 4 years without an FA. I am unable to get almost any feedback at WP:FAC, despite the project's current active state.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 13:56, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Just wondering: is there a one-stop source that lists all the NBA team captains? Thanks. Zagalejo ^^^ 02:57, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Was wondering what we should with them, e.g. Greg Somogyi or Darius Johnson-Odom. I didn't think it was a good idea to create the articles when their contracts weren't even guaranteed. Somogyi's article has been hit with a {{ notability}} tag, but i'd like more guidance: AFD, PROD, or leave alone? hbdragon88 ( talk) 02:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello - I started a discussion on this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball#Abbreviations for college names in infoboxes. Please stop by and register your opinion so we can get to speedy consensus on this matter. Thanks! Rikster2 ( talk) 21:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Template_talk:NBA_color#Readability_of_Miami_Heat_colors.— Bagumba ( talk) 02:31, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Today, there has been a lot of activity at the Donyell Marshall page in response to this Bill Simmons column, which says, "How has someone not added 'First athlete to definitively prove Dave Cirilli's Ewing Theory' to Donyell's Wikipedia page yet?" I've semiprotected the Marshall article, but some older accounts might come out of the woodwork, so it would be helpful to get some extra eyes on the page. (We might also see some spillover into other articles.) Zagalejo ^^^ 03:28, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Here's an article on the improvements. Too bad, for example, the stats for Chris Paul don't seem to be linked to his NBA.com profile.— Bagumba ( talk) 07:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
It has been nearly 4 years (2009-APR-19, Magic Johnson) since this project has had an FAC promoted. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Juwan Howard/archive5 now open. Please consider reviewing this article.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 15:07, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
User:Moxy removed all templates at the bottom of the Michael Jordan article, calling them spam. I don't think they are spam and allow readers to navigate between articles. Can someone join the discussion at Talk:Michael Jordan?— Chris! c/ t 20:46, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Someone removed two names from Template:Miami Heat 2011–12 NBA champions taking the roster size down to 13. For an NBA team 13 dress, but they can have up to 15 on the NBA roster. Often, #14 and #15 are on assignment in the NBADL, but they are often with the big club in civvies, especially at playoff time. When in comes to championship roster templates the number of players listed varies if you look at Category:National Basketball Association Championship navigational boxes. Here are some quick counts 2011: 15, 2010: 13, 2009: 14, 2008: 15, 2007: 15, 2006: 15, 2005: 15. How many should be on a template?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 08:38, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
How do you verify who received a ring? Especially for historic titles? Rikster2 ( talk) 00:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)