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I don't see the practical reason for this template to exist. It requires constant update since the starting point guards change from game to game. I did consider tfd it but thought that I should bring it here first. Any thoughts?— Chris! c t 00:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
An issue arises in List of Los Angeles Lakers seasons when I and User:SRE.K.A.L.24 argue about whether to italicize the row of 08/09 season. SRE.K.A.L.24 think that playoffs is part of the season, so the row should be italicize. But I think that it is not part of the season. That's why I want some inputs as to whose interpretation is correct.— Chris! c t 01:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone else interacted with this user? He insists on mentioning minor NBA/NHL connections wherever he can (eg, [1], [2], [3], etc.) He even wrote an entire section about the New York Rangers in the 1994 NBA Finals article. Do people think his edits are appropriate? Zagalejo ^^^ 03:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Please comment at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Andrés Nocioni/1.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 07:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi I'm not in this project but I was wondering: why does the NBA Project tag keep getting removed from Talk:Fox Sports Detroit? This channel is the exclusive local TV rights holder for the Detroit Pistons and I think it being on the project is beneficial. Also, the tags of every other sport it has rights for are still there. TomCat4680 ( talk) 14:07, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
There has been an idea that was brought of at WT:HOCKEY about the merging their current head coach template and the coaches by team template. So, does anyone else think that {{ NBACoach}} and {{ NBA head coaches by team}} should be merged? Links to the coach lists (from the the second) could be added next to the coaches' names (in the first) instead of a link to the team. Every place these are used, there will already be plenty of links to the actual team article. We would slightly modify the heading of the first one just by removing "Current". The idea was created by — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ), so big ups to him. The current NHL head coaches template is at Template:NHLHeadCoach. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 20:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
This is how it will look like...
-- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:32, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I think this look better:
East | Atlantic | D. Rivers ( Boston) | L. Frank ( New Jersey) | M. D'Antoni ( New York) | T. DiLeo ( Philadelphia) | J. Triano ( Toronto) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Central | V. Del Negro ( Chicago) | M. Brown ( Cleveland) | M. Curry ( Detroit) | J. O'Brien ( Indiana) | S. Skiles ( Milwaukee) | |
Southeast | M. Woodson ( Atlanta) | L. Brown ( Charlotte) | E. Spoelstra ( Miami) | S. Van Gundy ( Orlando) | E. Tapscott ( Washington) | |
West | Southwest | R. Carlisle ( Dallas) | R. Adelman ( Houston) | L. Hollins ( Memphis) | B. Scott ( New Orleans) | G. Popovich ( San Antonio) |
Northwest | G. Karl ( Denver) | K. McHale ( Minnesota) | S. Brooks ( Oklahoma City) | N. McMillan ( Portland) | J. Sloan ( Utah) | |
Pacific | D. Nelson ( Golden State) | M. Dunleavy ( L.A. Clippers) | P. Jackson ( L.A. Lakers) | A. Gentry ( Phoenix) | K. Natt ( Sacramento) |
— Chris! c t 18:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Cmon...everyone...just comment...want to get this done... -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 02:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Since no one opposes the merging of these two navboxes, then lets just install the original version (Chris') and merge it into Template:NBACoach. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 18:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
That was easy. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 01:48, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I just notice the creation of 2009 NBA Western Conference Playoffs and 2009 NBA Eastern Conference Playoffs. I think both are content forks of 2009 NBA Playoffs because they share similar structure and contain the same basic info. I propose that we merge them back to 2009 NBA Playoffs. Any thoughts?— Chris! c t 19:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Here is the forward from LOL's talk page, please help me with it. Thanks
Basketball picture help
Hi LOL, I am not experienced or knowledgeable in doing this, so I was wondering if you could do it, even with using the fair use of pictures. Roger Mason (basketball) has an old Washington Wizards picture and not an update Spurs picture. Can you find a good one and put it on please, or get someone to do it? thanks ~ GoldenGoose100 ( talk) 06:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
~ GoldenGoose100 ( talk) 01:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
A ton of NBA-related pages were moved, but the people who moved them didn't bother to fix the redirects. I've just fixed like 10 and there are hundreds left. Please, if you want to move a page, check for what directs there and fix it. Enigma msg 15:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
This navbox has been talked about many times over the past year or so, and I just want to bring this up again, well, since it really bothers me in a way that a robot might explode. Chrishomingtang, the creator of the navbox, said that the current version will let readers click on the links at the top of the page instead of scrolling down to. The problem with the current version of the navbox is that it covers a space that can fit one paragraph or two images in it (that's pretty big). Just look at NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award. Three images go all the way to the references. So, comments?
This is my proposed version:
-- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
If you guys want to keep the navbox at the top, use shorter names, like "Bill Russell NBA Finals Most Valuable Player", instead use "Finals MVP". – Howard the Duck 07:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Nice new version, though I still would support it to the bottom, but o wells...nice idea! -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 19:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if List of 2008–09 NBA transactions should instead be List of 2008–09 NBA season transactions. The reason why is because it sounds more accurate and some readers thinks its 2008 and 2009 instead of the actual season. Comments? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 02:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed to having this template completely replace all of the text that is similar to [[1999–2000 NBA season|1999–2000]]
or [[1999–2000 NBA season|1999]]
or 1999–2000
? —
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11:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
If you were to go to see for instance the 1985 NBA Finals page there will be a link that goes to 1984 and one that goes to 1986. These links will be seen at the top of the page. The problem is these links are not set up for the earlier NBA Finals like say 1956. I am trying to set this up but am having trouble getting the links set up the same as the 1986 example. Help needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ballay05 ( talk • contribs) 06:14, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
...at least not that easily. There has to be public upheaval of some sort for it to be included. Same for the NHL. – Howard the Duck 06:36, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I am concerned that this user is keeping on inserting a heading "2007: The Bryant-James Era" into the NBA article. I have already reverted several times because it is very pov. And also there is no evidence suggesting that this era would be known as the Bryant-James Era in the future. Thoughts?— Chris! c t 00:41, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
There is a proposed change to WP:ATHLETE found here. Interested individuals are invited to comment. Grsz 11 17:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I just found out that JustSomeRandomGuy32 deleted all the notes regarding about the award winners' nationality. I am also totally confident that Chrishomingtang is going to probably oppose to the removal of those notes. Just want to know if anyone thinks that the massive deletion of notes about the nationality of players is a problem. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 03:12, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I also have an idea of putting the award winners' positions, like in the NHL awards articles. That's all I have to say. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 02:09, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
You made 10-15. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC) On the same topic. Plus, mass-deletion. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:23, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
You know what? whatever.... put it all back - let the articles look ridiculous and have loads of information that has nothing to do with the article.... i don't care anymore... Because it makes perfect sense to say in an article listing the NBA Defensive players of the Year that player X is also an NBA champion at another point in his career and was born in another country. Good work Wiki editors. JustSomeRandomGuy32 ( talk) 06:25, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Since nobody bothered to read the Wiki policy being violated here - I'll copy/paste it from Wikipedia:Manual of Style (icons)#Use of flags for sportspeople: Flags should never indicate the player's nationality in a non-sporting sense; flags should only indicate the sportsperson's national squad/team or sporting nationality. No NBA player represents their country in NBA play. Nationality information oes not belong on these charts. It's very simple. Nobody has made a case for them belonging, other than the fact that they're already there.... JustSomeRandomGuy32 ( talk) 19:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I just saw an ip reverted User:JustSomeRandomGuy32's edits. For the record, I didn't revert.— Chris! c t 23:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm just going to restart what I suggested. Would anyone oppose to adding the position of the players on all the NBA award articles? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 18:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Comment I don't think the nationalities should be on the awards pages, but I think JustSomeRandomGuy32 should have brought this issue here first before removing the columns. Dabomb87 ( talk) 18:49, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
So what is it going to be: flags or no flags? I think we need to make a decision. Can everyone confirm their !vote? From what I can see, so far, oppose seems to be the consensus:
— Chris! c t 18:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Also will it satisfy anyone if we exclude flags, but keep the nationality column?— Chris! c t 18:43, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
No offense to anyone at all, but I haven't read most of the rest of this discussion, and I'm just going to throw my $.02 in here. I'm not putting in a vote above because I have an opinion, but it is neither for nor against inclusion. Are the nationalities really necessary? Of course not. It's one thing to note with one sentence in a lead that "the only int'l players to win [award] are [winner], [winner], and [winner]," but it's another to have flags and full country names for every player. However, am I particularly offended that the nationalities are there? Not at all. With that said, I was pointed toward this discussion because I removed info that was reverted, and I personally feel that reversion is incredibly stupid. I removed this footnote from the NBA MVP page: "Because Tim Duncan is a United States citizen by birth, as are all natives of the U.S. Virgin Islands,[9] he was able to play for the U.S. internationally.[10]" This was changed back within half an hour, and while I don't doubt the user was acting in completely good faith- to be honest, I didn't even look at the username- I find it patently ridiculous that people feel we must have this info. This isn't even saying "Tim Duncan is from the Virgin Islands"- it's saying, in AN ARTICLE ABOUT PLAYERS NAMED NBA MVP, that he played internationally for the United States. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE? HOW IS THAT EVEN REMOTELY RELEVANT? If people want to debate whether we should have countries at all, that's one issue- I can understand points on either side of the debate; this, on the other hand, isn't an issue at all. I don't care if Tim Duncan plays interplanetary hoops for Mars- winning the MVP has nothing to do with what country he plays for in non-NBA competitions. -- Mike (Kicking222) 22:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Just to clear things up, I support on having nationality notes, but dont care about the nationality column. Also, I'm going to go install the position columns by Saturday (since there's a Lakers and Canucks game every single day till...mid-May. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 02:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
This article is currently a redirect to personal foul. I had an idea of having put all the fouls (personal, flagrant, technical, and team fouls) into one article, though it will definitely be hard for me, as you may all know, I don't create article, I create stubs or featured lists. So, anyone interested in helping me? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 07:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I just noticed that there is something called Wikipedia:Announcements, which lists the milestones of a particular projects. Wikiproject can signed up for here. If there is no objection, I will sign us up.— Chris! c t 19:49, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Charles Barkley is at FAC. Dabomb87 ( talk) 04:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Just a simple question, what trades should be included in the Draft articles? I suppose it should just be draft day trades (which occurred on the day of the draft), and pre-draft trades that resulted in exchange of draft picks between the teams, such as in 2005-2008 NBA Draft articles. However, in 2004 NBA Draft article, it mentions Anderson Varejão draft rights being traded a month after the draft. I don't think this trade had anything to do with the Draft itself. Do the article really need to mention the draft rights traded after the draft day? Because it would be really confusing if the 1999 NBA Draft article mentions that Frédéric Weis draft rights was traded in 2008 ( reference) or 2002 NBA Draft article mentions that Luis Scola draft rights was traded in 2007 ( reference). Martin tamb ( talk) 07:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, if I posted on the wrong WikiProject, but since D-League is part of NBA, I think this discussion belong here. The Anaheim Arsenal are going to be relocated to Springfield, Massachusetts for the 2009-10 Season, but there are a separate Springfield NBA Development League team article. Looking back at some past examples such as when the Asheville Altitude moved to Tulsa and became Tulsa 66ers or when the Columbus Riverdragons moved to Austin and became Austin Toros. Those relocated franchise only have a single article for both of them. I think Anaheim Arsenal and Springfield NBA Development League team articles should be merged. Any input on this matter? - Martin tamb ( talk) 10:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I've filed a report here regarding User:Infonerd2216's insistence in inserting the word "tough" in a statement about the playoffs series with the Lakers. I reverted him several times because of pov concern and more importantly, adding this descriptive word doesn't increase readers' knowledge about the subject. But he refused to stop, even resorting to personal attacks. [4] Any thought on this?— Chris! c t 01:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) That's fine, but I would add additional info too WRT his specific edits (mention that he is not following consensus, etc.) Dabomb87 ( talk) 02:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I discovered that a bunch of NBA referee articles are in pretty nice shape and could potentially add to our GA collections. They include Tim Donaghy, Dick Bavetta, Steve Javie, Bennett Salvatore, Joe Crawford, Darell Garretson, Richie Powers, Jake O'Donnell, Bernie Fryer, Ken Mauer and Mike Mathis. Unfortunately, the primary writer of these articles User:RyguyMN have not edited since January 2009. I planned to nominate them if there is no objection. (I will merely "nominate" them and made sure they pass. I will not take credit for any of them). Any thoughts?— Chris! c t 22:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I have three more add to the GA list: 2007-08 NBA season, 2006-07 NBA season, and Kobe Bryant. I have two potential FAC's Jerry West and LA Lakers, though these are not referees. Will an admim move User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox to the 1971-72 NBA season? Leave Message , Yellow Evan home , User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox
Minor point of contention re: the opening to his biography, and the appropriateness of including nickname. It's pretty well-sourced, though I'm not sure that it has widespread recognition. Has been discussed on article talk page. Thoughts from roundball experts welcome. JNW ( talk) 17:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
I think we should make changes to this template. First, there is no place to put the scores, which are pretty important information for the series. Second, the champion/runner-up parameters are problematic because we cannot be certain which team will be champion until the series ends. I think we should model this template like {{ Infobox Stanley Cup Final}}. Any thoughts?— Chris! c t 23:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Which one should we used in our articles? I know this is nit-picking but if we standardize this, I believe we can make our articles look more professional. Any thought?— Chris! c t 01:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey,
On the Naismith article, there's an historical inaccuracy I'm trying to correct but I'm getting into an edit war with an admin for no real reason. The article states he was born in "Ramsay Township, Almonte, Ontario, Canada", in 1861. Here's the issue with this:
So, I digress, it should read in the infobox (and bio) (I believe) [[Ramsay Township|Ramsay]], [[Province of Canada]] (or [[Province of Canada|Canada]])
Opinions? -- Lvivske ( talk) 04:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Comment If consensus supports Lvivske's changes, that is great - I've no stake in the matter other than helping to maintain the stability of a frequently vandalized article. It is important, however, to clarify that the matter has been incorrectly (and unfairly) described as an "edit war with an admin". The initial change was made without explanation by Lvivske on the 28th; it was reverted because it was unexplained, on an article with a relatively high rate of vandalism, and because Lvivske appeared to be the first person in the history of the article to make such a change. (I could not find any indication of it having been a subject for discussion, let alone controversy.) Lvivske only left a note on the article's talk page after the back-and-forth, and there was no mention that the discussion had moved here (which would have been helpful). As for the "admin" part, at no time did that become a factor in the issue. Furthermore, any admin who tried to "shoot down" an editor by using the admin bit to his or her advantage in a content dispute would find themselves being shot down (in a far more serious manner) shortly thereafter. -- Ckatz chat spy 20:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:Shaquille_O'Neal#Copyright_violation. Thanks! Zagalejo ^^^ 19:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Should we merge double-double, triple-double, quadruple-double, five-by-five into one article? I have this idea because all of them are very short. The merged article can be long enoough to maybe go for GA. Merging is easy to do, but the problem is what the name of the new article should be. Is there a generic term that covered all of these doubles? I can't think of one.— Chris! c t 00:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Since I wasted the whole day thinking of idea for the WNBA articles, I came up with the idea of having a WNBA task force, for all the WNBA articles. Anyone with me here? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]] 23:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Whoever is interested in improving WNBA articles, please join WP:WNBA! -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]] 04:48, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
FYI, a discussion has been started at the Kobe Bryant talk page about this. See Talk:Kobe Bryant#Stats section— Chris! c t 21:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
So should be used on the "college" parameter on the roster template? His high school? " Italy"? – Howard the Duck 12:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Since 3b was recently added to the featured list criteria and WP:LISTS adding their stand-alone list rule, I was thinking of merging the head coaches article which have less than 7 entries (including head coaches who had two terms, and colspans) into the main articles. Here is what the Miami Heat article would look like if the head coaches article was merged into it. Even though the articles would grow sooner or later, right now is the present, and we should do what's best for the present more than the future (makes no sense whatsoever, but hope you guys get what I mean). Any comments? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]] 23:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
What do you guys think about infoboxes for the draft pages? We can have the basic info in there: logo, date, place, network, #1 overall player and team, ... Basically something like our colleagues at WP:NFL did, {{ Infobox NFL Draft}}.-- Crzy cheetah 02:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Just want to let editors know that User:Pats1 has removed the depth charts from team articles.— Chris! c t 04:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
(→) I believe those depth charts are technically wrong, They use all five positions and sometimes place the reserves in the wrong spot. For the Lakers, for instance, all depth charts last year showed that Odom was Gasol's substitute, but most of the time, he entered the game for Bynum. Yeah, we can say that Odom played Gasol's position and Gasol was in Bynum's spot, but that's an assumption that only basketball experts can make. This isn't Hoopedia. Wikipedia is not for experts only, but for everybody. We have the rosters for the readers to know what players the team has. As for the strategical rosters, they should be left for Hoopedia. Whether they're referenced or not, they're still unnecessary and violate WP:IINFO. -- Crzy cheetah 05:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I just want to ask that on every player's info page should I put their salary. -- Saffi2k7 ( talk) 00:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I notice that roster navboxes don't include the assistant coaches. What does everyone think of adding them, and since there will be a handful of coaches, having them appear on a second line, roughly like this:
-- Muboshgu ( talk) 01:35, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
assistants
so that "Assistant coaches" isn't hard-coded into every team's navbox. I have a simple script ready to output all of the assistant coaches from the nba.com/ team /roster pages. —
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04:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone pitch in on the GAN? There's some major stuff to work on, and I don't know if I'll be able to put the time needed to improve it. Dabomb87 ( talk) 04:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
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Archive 5 | ← | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | → | Archive 15 |
I don't see the practical reason for this template to exist. It requires constant update since the starting point guards change from game to game. I did consider tfd it but thought that I should bring it here first. Any thoughts?— Chris! c t 00:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
An issue arises in List of Los Angeles Lakers seasons when I and User:SRE.K.A.L.24 argue about whether to italicize the row of 08/09 season. SRE.K.A.L.24 think that playoffs is part of the season, so the row should be italicize. But I think that it is not part of the season. That's why I want some inputs as to whose interpretation is correct.— Chris! c t 01:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone else interacted with this user? He insists on mentioning minor NBA/NHL connections wherever he can (eg, [1], [2], [3], etc.) He even wrote an entire section about the New York Rangers in the 1994 NBA Finals article. Do people think his edits are appropriate? Zagalejo ^^^ 03:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Please comment at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Andrés Nocioni/1.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 07:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi I'm not in this project but I was wondering: why does the NBA Project tag keep getting removed from Talk:Fox Sports Detroit? This channel is the exclusive local TV rights holder for the Detroit Pistons and I think it being on the project is beneficial. Also, the tags of every other sport it has rights for are still there. TomCat4680 ( talk) 14:07, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
There has been an idea that was brought of at WT:HOCKEY about the merging their current head coach template and the coaches by team template. So, does anyone else think that {{ NBACoach}} and {{ NBA head coaches by team}} should be merged? Links to the coach lists (from the the second) could be added next to the coaches' names (in the first) instead of a link to the team. Every place these are used, there will already be plenty of links to the actual team article. We would slightly modify the heading of the first one just by removing "Current". The idea was created by — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ), so big ups to him. The current NHL head coaches template is at Template:NHLHeadCoach. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 20:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
This is how it will look like...
-- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:32, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I think this look better:
East | Atlantic | D. Rivers ( Boston) | L. Frank ( New Jersey) | M. D'Antoni ( New York) | T. DiLeo ( Philadelphia) | J. Triano ( Toronto) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Central | V. Del Negro ( Chicago) | M. Brown ( Cleveland) | M. Curry ( Detroit) | J. O'Brien ( Indiana) | S. Skiles ( Milwaukee) | |
Southeast | M. Woodson ( Atlanta) | L. Brown ( Charlotte) | E. Spoelstra ( Miami) | S. Van Gundy ( Orlando) | E. Tapscott ( Washington) | |
West | Southwest | R. Carlisle ( Dallas) | R. Adelman ( Houston) | L. Hollins ( Memphis) | B. Scott ( New Orleans) | G. Popovich ( San Antonio) |
Northwest | G. Karl ( Denver) | K. McHale ( Minnesota) | S. Brooks ( Oklahoma City) | N. McMillan ( Portland) | J. Sloan ( Utah) | |
Pacific | D. Nelson ( Golden State) | M. Dunleavy ( L.A. Clippers) | P. Jackson ( L.A. Lakers) | A. Gentry ( Phoenix) | K. Natt ( Sacramento) |
— Chris! c t 18:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Cmon...everyone...just comment...want to get this done... -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 02:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Since no one opposes the merging of these two navboxes, then lets just install the original version (Chris') and merge it into Template:NBACoach. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 18:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
That was easy. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 01:48, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I just notice the creation of 2009 NBA Western Conference Playoffs and 2009 NBA Eastern Conference Playoffs. I think both are content forks of 2009 NBA Playoffs because they share similar structure and contain the same basic info. I propose that we merge them back to 2009 NBA Playoffs. Any thoughts?— Chris! c t 19:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Here is the forward from LOL's talk page, please help me with it. Thanks
Basketball picture help
Hi LOL, I am not experienced or knowledgeable in doing this, so I was wondering if you could do it, even with using the fair use of pictures. Roger Mason (basketball) has an old Washington Wizards picture and not an update Spurs picture. Can you find a good one and put it on please, or get someone to do it? thanks ~ GoldenGoose100 ( talk) 06:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
~ GoldenGoose100 ( talk) 01:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
A ton of NBA-related pages were moved, but the people who moved them didn't bother to fix the redirects. I've just fixed like 10 and there are hundreds left. Please, if you want to move a page, check for what directs there and fix it. Enigma msg 15:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
This navbox has been talked about many times over the past year or so, and I just want to bring this up again, well, since it really bothers me in a way that a robot might explode. Chrishomingtang, the creator of the navbox, said that the current version will let readers click on the links at the top of the page instead of scrolling down to. The problem with the current version of the navbox is that it covers a space that can fit one paragraph or two images in it (that's pretty big). Just look at NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award. Three images go all the way to the references. So, comments?
This is my proposed version:
-- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
If you guys want to keep the navbox at the top, use shorter names, like "Bill Russell NBA Finals Most Valuable Player", instead use "Finals MVP". – Howard the Duck 07:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Nice new version, though I still would support it to the bottom, but o wells...nice idea! -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 19:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if List of 2008–09 NBA transactions should instead be List of 2008–09 NBA season transactions. The reason why is because it sounds more accurate and some readers thinks its 2008 and 2009 instead of the actual season. Comments? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 02:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed to having this template completely replace all of the text that is similar to [[1999–2000 NBA season|1999–2000]]
or [[1999–2000 NBA season|1999]]
or 1999–2000
? —
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11:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
If you were to go to see for instance the 1985 NBA Finals page there will be a link that goes to 1984 and one that goes to 1986. These links will be seen at the top of the page. The problem is these links are not set up for the earlier NBA Finals like say 1956. I am trying to set this up but am having trouble getting the links set up the same as the 1986 example. Help needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ballay05 ( talk • contribs) 06:14, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
...at least not that easily. There has to be public upheaval of some sort for it to be included. Same for the NHL. – Howard the Duck 06:36, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I am concerned that this user is keeping on inserting a heading "2007: The Bryant-James Era" into the NBA article. I have already reverted several times because it is very pov. And also there is no evidence suggesting that this era would be known as the Bryant-James Era in the future. Thoughts?— Chris! c t 00:41, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
There is a proposed change to WP:ATHLETE found here. Interested individuals are invited to comment. Grsz 11 17:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I just found out that JustSomeRandomGuy32 deleted all the notes regarding about the award winners' nationality. I am also totally confident that Chrishomingtang is going to probably oppose to the removal of those notes. Just want to know if anyone thinks that the massive deletion of notes about the nationality of players is a problem. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 03:12, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I also have an idea of putting the award winners' positions, like in the NHL awards articles. That's all I have to say. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 02:09, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
You made 10-15. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC) On the same topic. Plus, mass-deletion. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:23, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
You know what? whatever.... put it all back - let the articles look ridiculous and have loads of information that has nothing to do with the article.... i don't care anymore... Because it makes perfect sense to say in an article listing the NBA Defensive players of the Year that player X is also an NBA champion at another point in his career and was born in another country. Good work Wiki editors. JustSomeRandomGuy32 ( talk) 06:25, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Since nobody bothered to read the Wiki policy being violated here - I'll copy/paste it from Wikipedia:Manual of Style (icons)#Use of flags for sportspeople: Flags should never indicate the player's nationality in a non-sporting sense; flags should only indicate the sportsperson's national squad/team or sporting nationality. No NBA player represents their country in NBA play. Nationality information oes not belong on these charts. It's very simple. Nobody has made a case for them belonging, other than the fact that they're already there.... JustSomeRandomGuy32 ( talk) 19:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I just saw an ip reverted User:JustSomeRandomGuy32's edits. For the record, I didn't revert.— Chris! c t 23:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm just going to restart what I suggested. Would anyone oppose to adding the position of the players on all the NBA award articles? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 18:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Comment I don't think the nationalities should be on the awards pages, but I think JustSomeRandomGuy32 should have brought this issue here first before removing the columns. Dabomb87 ( talk) 18:49, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
So what is it going to be: flags or no flags? I think we need to make a decision. Can everyone confirm their !vote? From what I can see, so far, oppose seems to be the consensus:
— Chris! c t 18:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Also will it satisfy anyone if we exclude flags, but keep the nationality column?— Chris! c t 18:43, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
No offense to anyone at all, but I haven't read most of the rest of this discussion, and I'm just going to throw my $.02 in here. I'm not putting in a vote above because I have an opinion, but it is neither for nor against inclusion. Are the nationalities really necessary? Of course not. It's one thing to note with one sentence in a lead that "the only int'l players to win [award] are [winner], [winner], and [winner]," but it's another to have flags and full country names for every player. However, am I particularly offended that the nationalities are there? Not at all. With that said, I was pointed toward this discussion because I removed info that was reverted, and I personally feel that reversion is incredibly stupid. I removed this footnote from the NBA MVP page: "Because Tim Duncan is a United States citizen by birth, as are all natives of the U.S. Virgin Islands,[9] he was able to play for the U.S. internationally.[10]" This was changed back within half an hour, and while I don't doubt the user was acting in completely good faith- to be honest, I didn't even look at the username- I find it patently ridiculous that people feel we must have this info. This isn't even saying "Tim Duncan is from the Virgin Islands"- it's saying, in AN ARTICLE ABOUT PLAYERS NAMED NBA MVP, that he played internationally for the United States. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE? HOW IS THAT EVEN REMOTELY RELEVANT? If people want to debate whether we should have countries at all, that's one issue- I can understand points on either side of the debate; this, on the other hand, isn't an issue at all. I don't care if Tim Duncan plays interplanetary hoops for Mars- winning the MVP has nothing to do with what country he plays for in non-NBA competitions. -- Mike (Kicking222) 22:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Just to clear things up, I support on having nationality notes, but dont care about the nationality column. Also, I'm going to go install the position columns by Saturday (since there's a Lakers and Canucks game every single day till...mid-May. -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 02:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
This article is currently a redirect to personal foul. I had an idea of having put all the fouls (personal, flagrant, technical, and team fouls) into one article, though it will definitely be hard for me, as you may all know, I don't create article, I create stubs or featured lists. So, anyone interested in helping me? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 07:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I just noticed that there is something called Wikipedia:Announcements, which lists the milestones of a particular projects. Wikiproject can signed up for here. If there is no objection, I will sign us up.— Chris! c t 19:49, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Charles Barkley is at FAC. Dabomb87 ( talk) 04:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Just a simple question, what trades should be included in the Draft articles? I suppose it should just be draft day trades (which occurred on the day of the draft), and pre-draft trades that resulted in exchange of draft picks between the teams, such as in 2005-2008 NBA Draft articles. However, in 2004 NBA Draft article, it mentions Anderson Varejão draft rights being traded a month after the draft. I don't think this trade had anything to do with the Draft itself. Do the article really need to mention the draft rights traded after the draft day? Because it would be really confusing if the 1999 NBA Draft article mentions that Frédéric Weis draft rights was traded in 2008 ( reference) or 2002 NBA Draft article mentions that Luis Scola draft rights was traded in 2007 ( reference). Martin tamb ( talk) 07:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, if I posted on the wrong WikiProject, but since D-League is part of NBA, I think this discussion belong here. The Anaheim Arsenal are going to be relocated to Springfield, Massachusetts for the 2009-10 Season, but there are a separate Springfield NBA Development League team article. Looking back at some past examples such as when the Asheville Altitude moved to Tulsa and became Tulsa 66ers or when the Columbus Riverdragons moved to Austin and became Austin Toros. Those relocated franchise only have a single article for both of them. I think Anaheim Arsenal and Springfield NBA Development League team articles should be merged. Any input on this matter? - Martin tamb ( talk) 10:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I've filed a report here regarding User:Infonerd2216's insistence in inserting the word "tough" in a statement about the playoffs series with the Lakers. I reverted him several times because of pov concern and more importantly, adding this descriptive word doesn't increase readers' knowledge about the subject. But he refused to stop, even resorting to personal attacks. [4] Any thought on this?— Chris! c t 01:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) That's fine, but I would add additional info too WRT his specific edits (mention that he is not following consensus, etc.) Dabomb87 ( talk) 02:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I discovered that a bunch of NBA referee articles are in pretty nice shape and could potentially add to our GA collections. They include Tim Donaghy, Dick Bavetta, Steve Javie, Bennett Salvatore, Joe Crawford, Darell Garretson, Richie Powers, Jake O'Donnell, Bernie Fryer, Ken Mauer and Mike Mathis. Unfortunately, the primary writer of these articles User:RyguyMN have not edited since January 2009. I planned to nominate them if there is no objection. (I will merely "nominate" them and made sure they pass. I will not take credit for any of them). Any thoughts?— Chris! c t 22:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I have three more add to the GA list: 2007-08 NBA season, 2006-07 NBA season, and Kobe Bryant. I have two potential FAC's Jerry West and LA Lakers, though these are not referees. Will an admim move User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox to the 1971-72 NBA season? Leave Message , Yellow Evan home , User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox
Minor point of contention re: the opening to his biography, and the appropriateness of including nickname. It's pretty well-sourced, though I'm not sure that it has widespread recognition. Has been discussed on article talk page. Thoughts from roundball experts welcome. JNW ( talk) 17:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
I think we should make changes to this template. First, there is no place to put the scores, which are pretty important information for the series. Second, the champion/runner-up parameters are problematic because we cannot be certain which team will be champion until the series ends. I think we should model this template like {{ Infobox Stanley Cup Final}}. Any thoughts?— Chris! c t 23:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Which one should we used in our articles? I know this is nit-picking but if we standardize this, I believe we can make our articles look more professional. Any thought?— Chris! c t 01:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey,
On the Naismith article, there's an historical inaccuracy I'm trying to correct but I'm getting into an edit war with an admin for no real reason. The article states he was born in "Ramsay Township, Almonte, Ontario, Canada", in 1861. Here's the issue with this:
So, I digress, it should read in the infobox (and bio) (I believe) [[Ramsay Township|Ramsay]], [[Province of Canada]] (or [[Province of Canada|Canada]])
Opinions? -- Lvivske ( talk) 04:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Comment If consensus supports Lvivske's changes, that is great - I've no stake in the matter other than helping to maintain the stability of a frequently vandalized article. It is important, however, to clarify that the matter has been incorrectly (and unfairly) described as an "edit war with an admin". The initial change was made without explanation by Lvivske on the 28th; it was reverted because it was unexplained, on an article with a relatively high rate of vandalism, and because Lvivske appeared to be the first person in the history of the article to make such a change. (I could not find any indication of it having been a subject for discussion, let alone controversy.) Lvivske only left a note on the article's talk page after the back-and-forth, and there was no mention that the discussion had moved here (which would have been helpful). As for the "admin" part, at no time did that become a factor in the issue. Furthermore, any admin who tried to "shoot down" an editor by using the admin bit to his or her advantage in a content dispute would find themselves being shot down (in a far more serious manner) shortly thereafter. -- Ckatz chat spy 20:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:Shaquille_O'Neal#Copyright_violation. Thanks! Zagalejo ^^^ 19:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Should we merge double-double, triple-double, quadruple-double, five-by-five into one article? I have this idea because all of them are very short. The merged article can be long enoough to maybe go for GA. Merging is easy to do, but the problem is what the name of the new article should be. Is there a generic term that covered all of these doubles? I can't think of one.— Chris! c t 00:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Since I wasted the whole day thinking of idea for the WNBA articles, I came up with the idea of having a WNBA task force, for all the WNBA articles. Anyone with me here? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]] 23:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Whoever is interested in improving WNBA articles, please join WP:WNBA! -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]] 04:48, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
FYI, a discussion has been started at the Kobe Bryant talk page about this. See Talk:Kobe Bryant#Stats section— Chris! c t 21:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
So should be used on the "college" parameter on the roster template? His high school? " Italy"? – Howard the Duck 12:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Since 3b was recently added to the featured list criteria and WP:LISTS adding their stand-alone list rule, I was thinking of merging the head coaches article which have less than 7 entries (including head coaches who had two terms, and colspans) into the main articles. Here is what the Miami Heat article would look like if the head coaches article was merged into it. Even though the articles would grow sooner or later, right now is the present, and we should do what's best for the present more than the future (makes no sense whatsoever, but hope you guys get what I mean). Any comments? -- [[ SRE.K.A.L.| L.A.K.ERS]] 23:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
What do you guys think about infoboxes for the draft pages? We can have the basic info in there: logo, date, place, network, #1 overall player and team, ... Basically something like our colleagues at WP:NFL did, {{ Infobox NFL Draft}}.-- Crzy cheetah 02:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Just want to let editors know that User:Pats1 has removed the depth charts from team articles.— Chris! c t 04:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
(→) I believe those depth charts are technically wrong, They use all five positions and sometimes place the reserves in the wrong spot. For the Lakers, for instance, all depth charts last year showed that Odom was Gasol's substitute, but most of the time, he entered the game for Bynum. Yeah, we can say that Odom played Gasol's position and Gasol was in Bynum's spot, but that's an assumption that only basketball experts can make. This isn't Hoopedia. Wikipedia is not for experts only, but for everybody. We have the rosters for the readers to know what players the team has. As for the strategical rosters, they should be left for Hoopedia. Whether they're referenced or not, they're still unnecessary and violate WP:IINFO. -- Crzy cheetah 05:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I just want to ask that on every player's info page should I put their salary. -- Saffi2k7 ( talk) 00:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I notice that roster navboxes don't include the assistant coaches. What does everyone think of adding them, and since there will be a handful of coaches, having them appear on a second line, roughly like this:
-- Muboshgu ( talk) 01:35, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
assistants
so that "Assistant coaches" isn't hard-coded into every team's navbox. I have a simple script ready to output all of the assistant coaches from the nba.com/ team /roster pages. —
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04:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone pitch in on the GAN? There's some major stuff to work on, and I don't know if I'll be able to put the time needed to improve it. Dabomb87 ( talk) 04:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)