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Congrats on forming a WikiProject! I'm considering placing my name on the participants list, joining the Project, but as a Japanese studies major, I'm not sure how much I could contribute. Nevertheless, I do intend to continue cleaning up & expanding the articles on the Imjin War, and defending Korea's involvement in the early cultural development of Japan. If anything should come up that I can somehow help out with, please feel free to give a shout. Good luck! Keep up the good fight! LordAmeth 05:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Again, thanks for the support guys. Also thank you to LordAmeth for a great intro for this Wikirproject. I hope this project page can start becoming a lot better. Good friend100 22:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Calling all interested editors: Currently, we are discussing what picture to use as the template picture. Several are being debated. Currently, the Gyeongbokgung picture is being used.
Also, there are several candidates for the template. If anyone has any suggestions or comments, please list below. Remember to state what template you support. Good friend100 01:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with you. If you can merge the portal and wikiproject template together, that will make it better. Good friend100 02:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Question: Why not simply add the WikiProject to {{ korean}}? It seems to me that any Talk page "within the scope of WikiProject Korea" is also within the general scope of Coreana. Furthermore, hundreds (thousands?) of articles have already been tagged with {{ korean}}; so you can save a lot of work by simply changing that template slightly. Also that would avoid havng two gigantic redundant templates on top of each other. Cheers, -- Visviva 04:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello everybody, as more editors decide to join, I would like to inform you of the priorities we have on Wikiproject Korea.
thanks Good friend100 19:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
We are very limited. First off, our quantity of members is too small yet to make a signicant impact and growth on Korea-related articles. I suggest we ask others (NOT advertise) if interested (escpecially willing) to join WikiProject Korea.
And, how do you create articles?
I see that there is a Balhae article, which also needs improvement, but, there is no article for Daejoyoung, the founder of Goguryeo Balhae. Thanks Oyo321 02:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know a source for this person? I want to write an article on him but cannont find any information. Good friend100 14:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Do we need more? Tell me the kinds of pictures we need, and I'll find them after Chuseok (Lunar Thanksgiving) -- General Tiger 17:17, 6 October 2006 (Korean Standard Time)
I'll be gathering pictures for articles, and give the URL link for them. If you need any, just contact me for requests.
Why don't we systemize all Korean articles like WikiProject Japan?
I believe we need to beef up our support of our articles which are being attacked(?) by those who advocate POV names.
I think that the Imjin War isn't a big issue, but we need to support Baekdusan, Cheonji, and the like. Please send your support for these and such other pages. -- General Tiger 04:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Check my page. Who the heck is Appleby? Also, the accuser seems suspisious. How do I get off?
In trying to improve the Sujeonggwa article, I'm trying to make it more accessible by making nonexistent pages like "Sujeongkwa" or "Soojonggwa" redirect to it. Can anyone tell me how to do a redirect? = Kit eS tring= 01:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
General Uljimunduk-is there even an article on him? I don't think there is one. If there is none, I think Wikiproject Korea should put some serious effort to creating "Uljimunduk" a prominent Goguryeo general. Oyo321 05:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
The current assessment scales for quality and importance could probably use some fine-tuning ... they were just put together to give us a starting point.
In particular, I was thinking of adding a ranking called "Unstable" to the quality scale; this would go on articles that are subject to recurrent POV wars, and which are therefore difficult to assess in the normal fashion. Many of these ( Dokdo and Sea of Japan naming dispute come to mind) are actually of a fairly high encyclopedic standard, at least occasionally, since the recurrent disputes lead to closer attention from the community and closer scrutiny under WP:V... on the other hand, trying to raise them to FA or even GA standard seems to be unrealistic unless a strong consensus can be forged among all good-faith editors. -- Visviva 09:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree that improving North Korean related articles is a goal. However, it is very hard to get information since North Korea is very secretive about their activities and political history.
Visviva, thanks for the assessment scales. There are several important articles to assess, and I agree that "unstable" should be one. Definitely Dokdo should be tagged with that assessment. Good friend100 02:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
It is stated that Gwangaeto the Great died of a disease that is not specified. Did not Gwangaeto the Great die in battle? Oyo321 04:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Oyo321 01:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I saw that in some WikiProjects, like WikiProject Anime, there are "focus"es. For example, there was a "Neon Genesis Evangelion week" where they completely peer reviewed the entire article. I think that we need to do that.
Especially Korean articles... they are usually messed up by anonymous Korean users who have poor English. So, in major articles, our efforts are muddled up.
Take a look at Imjin War. It's the worst looking article, even though users like Good friend100 have spent countless hours in order to improve it.
I think that we need to have a Imjin War week where we make Imjin War so good that there's no way it can't become a featured article. Then, any anonymous changes can be fixed or updated in relation to the peer reviewed state as the benchmark. ( Wikimachine 03:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC))
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 15:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been working on infoboxes for Seoul subway stations. The prototype is finished, {{ Template:Seoul line 4 station}}. It has 6 parameters, all of which are optional. This means that if a station is on 2 or more lines a full infobox for one line can be included and additional infoboxes as necessary which just hold the correct color and surrounding stations but not the full name etc. again. This template is now in action at Seoul Grand Park Station. Let me know if you like it and can see anything that can be improved or want help with using it. I'll update progress here. Deizio talk 21:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The following North Korean kun currently have articles: Sonbong, Samjiyon, Nyongbyon, Kilchu. -- Reuben 07:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the status report, Reuben. And also for being so kind as to suggest that I have a "scheme." I'm afraid my own practice in naming has been less than consistent. Actually, in view of the fact that North Korea does not use diacritics in its MR-based system, I think we need to revisit some provisions of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean)... since we follow the South Korean system more or less to the letter, at least for administrative divs, it only makes sense that we should do the same for North Korea. That's a question for Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean), of course -- a page where I recently advocated exactly the opposite approach. Ah well, live and learn. :-) -- Visviva 14:18, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Current status: have stubbed out all secondary divs in the eastern coastal provinces (Kangwon and the Hamgyongs). I reckon Ryanggang and Chagang are next, at least for me, then down the west side. -- Visviva 15:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Is Sinanju a significant place? It gets some Korean War-related hits on Google, but it doesn't show up on the list of si or gun. Perhaps it's just an ŭp or a tong? -- Reuben 08:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | → | Archive 5 |
Congrats on forming a WikiProject! I'm considering placing my name on the participants list, joining the Project, but as a Japanese studies major, I'm not sure how much I could contribute. Nevertheless, I do intend to continue cleaning up & expanding the articles on the Imjin War, and defending Korea's involvement in the early cultural development of Japan. If anything should come up that I can somehow help out with, please feel free to give a shout. Good luck! Keep up the good fight! LordAmeth 05:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Again, thanks for the support guys. Also thank you to LordAmeth for a great intro for this Wikirproject. I hope this project page can start becoming a lot better. Good friend100 22:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Calling all interested editors: Currently, we are discussing what picture to use as the template picture. Several are being debated. Currently, the Gyeongbokgung picture is being used.
Also, there are several candidates for the template. If anyone has any suggestions or comments, please list below. Remember to state what template you support. Good friend100 01:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with you. If you can merge the portal and wikiproject template together, that will make it better. Good friend100 02:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Question: Why not simply add the WikiProject to {{ korean}}? It seems to me that any Talk page "within the scope of WikiProject Korea" is also within the general scope of Coreana. Furthermore, hundreds (thousands?) of articles have already been tagged with {{ korean}}; so you can save a lot of work by simply changing that template slightly. Also that would avoid havng two gigantic redundant templates on top of each other. Cheers, -- Visviva 04:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello everybody, as more editors decide to join, I would like to inform you of the priorities we have on Wikiproject Korea.
thanks Good friend100 19:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
We are very limited. First off, our quantity of members is too small yet to make a signicant impact and growth on Korea-related articles. I suggest we ask others (NOT advertise) if interested (escpecially willing) to join WikiProject Korea.
And, how do you create articles?
I see that there is a Balhae article, which also needs improvement, but, there is no article for Daejoyoung, the founder of Goguryeo Balhae. Thanks Oyo321 02:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know a source for this person? I want to write an article on him but cannont find any information. Good friend100 14:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Do we need more? Tell me the kinds of pictures we need, and I'll find them after Chuseok (Lunar Thanksgiving) -- General Tiger 17:17, 6 October 2006 (Korean Standard Time)
I'll be gathering pictures for articles, and give the URL link for them. If you need any, just contact me for requests.
Why don't we systemize all Korean articles like WikiProject Japan?
I believe we need to beef up our support of our articles which are being attacked(?) by those who advocate POV names.
I think that the Imjin War isn't a big issue, but we need to support Baekdusan, Cheonji, and the like. Please send your support for these and such other pages. -- General Tiger 04:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Check my page. Who the heck is Appleby? Also, the accuser seems suspisious. How do I get off?
In trying to improve the Sujeonggwa article, I'm trying to make it more accessible by making nonexistent pages like "Sujeongkwa" or "Soojonggwa" redirect to it. Can anyone tell me how to do a redirect? = Kit eS tring= 01:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
General Uljimunduk-is there even an article on him? I don't think there is one. If there is none, I think Wikiproject Korea should put some serious effort to creating "Uljimunduk" a prominent Goguryeo general. Oyo321 05:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
The current assessment scales for quality and importance could probably use some fine-tuning ... they were just put together to give us a starting point.
In particular, I was thinking of adding a ranking called "Unstable" to the quality scale; this would go on articles that are subject to recurrent POV wars, and which are therefore difficult to assess in the normal fashion. Many of these ( Dokdo and Sea of Japan naming dispute come to mind) are actually of a fairly high encyclopedic standard, at least occasionally, since the recurrent disputes lead to closer attention from the community and closer scrutiny under WP:V... on the other hand, trying to raise them to FA or even GA standard seems to be unrealistic unless a strong consensus can be forged among all good-faith editors. -- Visviva 09:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree that improving North Korean related articles is a goal. However, it is very hard to get information since North Korea is very secretive about their activities and political history.
Visviva, thanks for the assessment scales. There are several important articles to assess, and I agree that "unstable" should be one. Definitely Dokdo should be tagged with that assessment. Good friend100 02:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
It is stated that Gwangaeto the Great died of a disease that is not specified. Did not Gwangaeto the Great die in battle? Oyo321 04:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Oyo321 01:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I saw that in some WikiProjects, like WikiProject Anime, there are "focus"es. For example, there was a "Neon Genesis Evangelion week" where they completely peer reviewed the entire article. I think that we need to do that.
Especially Korean articles... they are usually messed up by anonymous Korean users who have poor English. So, in major articles, our efforts are muddled up.
Take a look at Imjin War. It's the worst looking article, even though users like Good friend100 have spent countless hours in order to improve it.
I think that we need to have a Imjin War week where we make Imjin War so good that there's no way it can't become a featured article. Then, any anonymous changes can be fixed or updated in relation to the peer reviewed state as the benchmark. ( Wikimachine 03:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC))
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 15:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been working on infoboxes for Seoul subway stations. The prototype is finished, {{ Template:Seoul line 4 station}}. It has 6 parameters, all of which are optional. This means that if a station is on 2 or more lines a full infobox for one line can be included and additional infoboxes as necessary which just hold the correct color and surrounding stations but not the full name etc. again. This template is now in action at Seoul Grand Park Station. Let me know if you like it and can see anything that can be improved or want help with using it. I'll update progress here. Deizio talk 21:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The following North Korean kun currently have articles: Sonbong, Samjiyon, Nyongbyon, Kilchu. -- Reuben 07:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the status report, Reuben. And also for being so kind as to suggest that I have a "scheme." I'm afraid my own practice in naming has been less than consistent. Actually, in view of the fact that North Korea does not use diacritics in its MR-based system, I think we need to revisit some provisions of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean)... since we follow the South Korean system more or less to the letter, at least for administrative divs, it only makes sense that we should do the same for North Korea. That's a question for Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean), of course -- a page where I recently advocated exactly the opposite approach. Ah well, live and learn. :-) -- Visviva 14:18, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Current status: have stubbed out all secondary divs in the eastern coastal provinces (Kangwon and the Hamgyongs). I reckon Ryanggang and Chagang are next, at least for me, then down the west side. -- Visviva 15:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Is Sinanju a significant place? It gets some Korean War-related hits on Google, but it doesn't show up on the list of si or gun. Perhaps it's just an ŭp or a tong? -- Reuben 08:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)