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Reiwa period looks set to continue getting messy good-faith edits claiming, for example, that the name comes from poem 32 of the Manyoshu, which was written in classical Japanese, when in fact it comes from the Chinese headnotes to 32 poems of the Manyoshu, or that "令" means "order" or "command", when in fact in context it clearly means "good". The worst part is that English-language "reliable sources" are supporting this nonsense, and look set to continue doing so for the foreseeable future. As many learned eyes as possible would be welcome. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 04:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I am hoping for some help on a page I recently started on the architect Hitoshi (Jin) Watanabe, designer of many works in the last century – most notably the Tokyo National Museum. However, I don't speak any Japanese, and his name presents a bit of a challenge. In some sources, he is referred to as 'Hitoshi Watanabe'. In other sources, he is referred to as 'Jin Watanabe'. Occasionally, he is 'Hitoshi (Jin) Watanabe'. Apparently this is something to do with the way the Kanji characters are presented. For the time being, I have called the page 'Hitoshi (Jin) Watanabe', however am now having second thoughts. Is 'Jin' a nickname perhaps, or is it a translation issue? N.B. A WP search will currently lead to Jin Watanabe, who is a handball player, so I guess a disambiguation might be required. The JA Wikipedia page for him is at [1] merlinVtwelve ( talk) 06:49, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
@ Nihonjoe: it seems entirely possible that it is a nickname of some sort. This article [6] from the 20th Century Society allows for both, calling him Hitoshi ‘Jin’ Watanabe. If this is the case, perhaps it is too early at the moment to state that it is incorrect usage in the article? It's an interesting one, but personally, I have no idea. Certainly there seem to be nuances of some sort. merlinVtwelve ( talk) 07:58, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
By way of a PS to the above discussion, I have also started a page on architect Masatsugu Kobayashi. I have tried to write the lede, bio, etc., myself – however, for the 'Selected Works' section, I have used Google Translate from ja.wikipedia page [7]. Unfortunately some of the works have not translated very well, e.g. the first one 'secession-type end boat club' and the last one 'Diagonal pole assembly house'. If anyone with Japanese skills wants to take a look it would be appreciated. merlinVtwelve ( talk) 10:49, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
A bunch of Japan-related portals have been mass-nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Mass-created portals based on a single navbox. Here's the list of at least some of them (there may be others I missed):
It's possible some of them might be able to fixed enough to save them. Feel free to participate in the discussion if you wish. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
I was hoping someone would be interested in taking over the GA review of this article. The original reviewer has withdrawn and looking at the sources it might require someone with some knowledge of Japanese. The review can be found at Talk:Idol × Warrior Miracle Tunes!/GA1. If you want any help or advice with the criteria you can ping me or ask at Wikipedia:Good article help. Thanks AIRcorn (talk) 06:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the reliability of Natalie (website) on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you're interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § Natalie (website) reliable for showing notability of Neptune (owarai)? — Newslinger talk 17:53, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
This kinda bothers me. We don't do it for Keiō or anything before, but we have Meiji period, Taishō period, Shōwa period, Heisei period (?) and Reiwa period (!?). This strikes me as a side-effect of the common error in assuming that the 年号 names Meiji and later are actually personal names of the emperors of those eras (see here; or just watch The Last Samurai) and we need to disambiguate the "subordinate topics" from their "origins"; except that no one anywhere calls the current emperor or his presumptive successor by their era names, and very few English-language sources call the Shōwa emperor by that name. So who agrees we should move the five last 元号 articles (or at least the last three) to their base titles? Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:00, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Japan: It's History and Culture (3rd edition) by W. Scott Morton uses "X period" in all cases, even for older periods-- I did a quick search of the GBooks preview for "period", and only came up with "Heian", "Asuka", "Nara", etc.; if you think I am talking about the periodization of Japanese history rather than specifically 元号, we have had a miscommunication here and will need to start over. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 23:47, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
that's a load of crapand
I'm not stuck on this as you seem to be. Anyway, "what you said" was ambiguous, and I asked you to clarify, which you have yet to do. "Heian period" and "Asuka period" are a whole different category of thing. I have seen very few English-language sources that refer to pre-Meiji 元号 by name except for the very famous ones like Tenpyo and Genroku. Anyway, I went and checked, and it turns out "Tempyo period" does appear once in the GBooks preview of Morton, but that's hardly a justification for saying that the COMMONNAMEs of the modern 元号s always have either "period" or "era". Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 02:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks, WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Could somebody please take a look at Draft:Yukio Sakaguchi. All the references are in Japanese, so it really needs somebody who's fluent in the language to review it. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:35, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
I have collected a batch of articles with links to DAB pages on Japan-related topics, where expert attention would be welcome. Search for 'disam' in read mode or for '{{d' in edit mode; and if you solve any of these puzzles, remove the {{ dn}} tag and post {{ done}} here.
Thanks in advance, Narky Blert ( talk) 02:10, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Can anyone here help with Draft: Red Circle Authors? RoySmith has suggested asking if you can review the Japanese language references (Nos. 4, 12, 26) etc, Yahoo Japan, Kyodo, Mainichi Shimbun. The former head of the International Publishers Association (IPA) has written in an industry publication that others should take a look at this publisher (ref 3), for example, and there are many other reviews and references etc making this a notable independent publisher, as Red Circle Authors is being widely cited. The tone still might not be perfect for approval despite several experienced Wiki Editors improving it. Most of the authors involved with Red Circle Authors have Wiki pages and are well known in Japan etc. All help welcome & I think they probably also need a Japanese language entry in Wikipedia. -- WikiGeoffrey ( talk) 17:04, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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Reiwa period looks set to continue getting messy good-faith edits claiming, for example, that the name comes from poem 32 of the Manyoshu, which was written in classical Japanese, when in fact it comes from the Chinese headnotes to 32 poems of the Manyoshu, or that "令" means "order" or "command", when in fact in context it clearly means "good". The worst part is that English-language "reliable sources" are supporting this nonsense, and look set to continue doing so for the foreseeable future. As many learned eyes as possible would be welcome. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 04:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I am hoping for some help on a page I recently started on the architect Hitoshi (Jin) Watanabe, designer of many works in the last century – most notably the Tokyo National Museum. However, I don't speak any Japanese, and his name presents a bit of a challenge. In some sources, he is referred to as 'Hitoshi Watanabe'. In other sources, he is referred to as 'Jin Watanabe'. Occasionally, he is 'Hitoshi (Jin) Watanabe'. Apparently this is something to do with the way the Kanji characters are presented. For the time being, I have called the page 'Hitoshi (Jin) Watanabe', however am now having second thoughts. Is 'Jin' a nickname perhaps, or is it a translation issue? N.B. A WP search will currently lead to Jin Watanabe, who is a handball player, so I guess a disambiguation might be required. The JA Wikipedia page for him is at [1] merlinVtwelve ( talk) 06:49, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
@ Nihonjoe: it seems entirely possible that it is a nickname of some sort. This article [6] from the 20th Century Society allows for both, calling him Hitoshi ‘Jin’ Watanabe. If this is the case, perhaps it is too early at the moment to state that it is incorrect usage in the article? It's an interesting one, but personally, I have no idea. Certainly there seem to be nuances of some sort. merlinVtwelve ( talk) 07:58, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
By way of a PS to the above discussion, I have also started a page on architect Masatsugu Kobayashi. I have tried to write the lede, bio, etc., myself – however, for the 'Selected Works' section, I have used Google Translate from ja.wikipedia page [7]. Unfortunately some of the works have not translated very well, e.g. the first one 'secession-type end boat club' and the last one 'Diagonal pole assembly house'. If anyone with Japanese skills wants to take a look it would be appreciated. merlinVtwelve ( talk) 10:49, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
A bunch of Japan-related portals have been mass-nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Mass-created portals based on a single navbox. Here's the list of at least some of them (there may be others I missed):
It's possible some of them might be able to fixed enough to save them. Feel free to participate in the discussion if you wish. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
I was hoping someone would be interested in taking over the GA review of this article. The original reviewer has withdrawn and looking at the sources it might require someone with some knowledge of Japanese. The review can be found at Talk:Idol × Warrior Miracle Tunes!/GA1. If you want any help or advice with the criteria you can ping me or ask at Wikipedia:Good article help. Thanks AIRcorn (talk) 06:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the reliability of Natalie (website) on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you're interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § Natalie (website) reliable for showing notability of Neptune (owarai)? — Newslinger talk 17:53, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
This kinda bothers me. We don't do it for Keiō or anything before, but we have Meiji period, Taishō period, Shōwa period, Heisei period (?) and Reiwa period (!?). This strikes me as a side-effect of the common error in assuming that the 年号 names Meiji and later are actually personal names of the emperors of those eras (see here; or just watch The Last Samurai) and we need to disambiguate the "subordinate topics" from their "origins"; except that no one anywhere calls the current emperor or his presumptive successor by their era names, and very few English-language sources call the Shōwa emperor by that name. So who agrees we should move the five last 元号 articles (or at least the last three) to their base titles? Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:00, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Japan: It's History and Culture (3rd edition) by W. Scott Morton uses "X period" in all cases, even for older periods-- I did a quick search of the GBooks preview for "period", and only came up with "Heian", "Asuka", "Nara", etc.; if you think I am talking about the periodization of Japanese history rather than specifically 元号, we have had a miscommunication here and will need to start over. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 23:47, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
that's a load of crapand
I'm not stuck on this as you seem to be. Anyway, "what you said" was ambiguous, and I asked you to clarify, which you have yet to do. "Heian period" and "Asuka period" are a whole different category of thing. I have seen very few English-language sources that refer to pre-Meiji 元号 by name except for the very famous ones like Tenpyo and Genroku. Anyway, I went and checked, and it turns out "Tempyo period" does appear once in the GBooks preview of Morton, but that's hardly a justification for saying that the COMMONNAMEs of the modern 元号s always have either "period" or "era". Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 02:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
Hello everybody!
As a Wikimedian active in the Hong Kong user group I became involved the ESEAP ("East and Southeast Asia and the Pacific" - at http://w.wiki/Lv ) movement, which seeks to coordinate Wikimedia activities across East Asia, Southeast Asia, and Oceania. I've learned that ESEAP is looking for active Wikimedians from Japan or living in Japan. If you're resident in Japan (whether a Japanese citizen or a foreigner) and interested in helping out, please contact Exec8 on his user page ( User talk:Exec8) or on Telegram (user name Exec8).
You are also welcome to see the Wikimedia Asia-Oceania project ( http://w.wiki/Lw).
Thanks, WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Could somebody please take a look at Draft:Yukio Sakaguchi. All the references are in Japanese, so it really needs somebody who's fluent in the language to review it. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:35, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
I have collected a batch of articles with links to DAB pages on Japan-related topics, where expert attention would be welcome. Search for 'disam' in read mode or for '{{d' in edit mode; and if you solve any of these puzzles, remove the {{ dn}} tag and post {{ done}} here.
Thanks in advance, Narky Blert ( talk) 02:10, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Can anyone here help with Draft: Red Circle Authors? RoySmith has suggested asking if you can review the Japanese language references (Nos. 4, 12, 26) etc, Yahoo Japan, Kyodo, Mainichi Shimbun. The former head of the International Publishers Association (IPA) has written in an industry publication that others should take a look at this publisher (ref 3), for example, and there are many other reviews and references etc making this a notable independent publisher, as Red Circle Authors is being widely cited. The tone still might not be perfect for approval despite several experienced Wiki Editors improving it. Most of the authors involved with Red Circle Authors have Wiki pages and are well known in Japan etc. All help welcome & I think they probably also need a Japanese language entry in Wikipedia. -- WikiGeoffrey ( talk) 17:04, 26 April 2019 (UTC)