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You can find the page here. [1]. The reasons- Isn't a Major Championship, or the small group of other events where a yearly tournament merits its own article ...William 17:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
You can find the discussion here [2] ...William 19:51, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
The current way the major championships summary tables are displayed is not that easy to read - all the "DNP"s can make it difficult to pick out the results. It would be better to leave those cells (almost) blank, e.g.:
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On the right, the results stand out much more easily. Thoughts? 81.142.107.230 ( talk) 09:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
I was trying to clean several NCAA athletic conference pages recently. July 1 was the day that numerous schools changed their conference affiliation, so I've been one of many folks updating pages. I came across the Great West Conference, which has only a few full members and a few more associate members.
Anyway, I went to the Great West Conference website to get some information. When I was there, I found that the page on men's golf replaces the "Great West" logo with the "America Sky Men's Golf Conference" logo (something I'd never heard of before). As it turns out, according to this article from September 2010, "The America Sky Conference was formed in the summer of 2007 by schools in the America East (Binghamton, Hartford) and Big Sky (Northern Colorado, Sacramento State, Weber State) conferences, as well as then-independents Texas-Pan American and Utah Valley. Last summer, Chicago State, Houston Baptist, North Dakota, and South Dakota came from the Great West Conference."
What I'd like to know (if anyone happens to know): is America Sky Conference an actual separate athletic conference that has its own management? Is it run jointly by the America East, Big Sky and Great West conferences, or perhaps managed by one of them? Its online home is apparently on the Great West site, but they were the last to join, so I really don't know if they're "in charge" or not. The List of NCAA conferences page does not mention it. There's no America Sky Men's Golf Conference page on Wikipedia either.
I don't want to add it to the Great West page on Wikipedia if they're not in charge of it; if that's the case, I think it should be a separate page. I figured if anyone on Wikipedia knows about it, they might be here. I'd think that if this conference has a separate organizational structure of some kind, it should have its own Wikipedia page, and if it's administered by another conference (presumably the Great West, since it's on their website) then it should have a mention on that page.
Does anyone know anything about this golf conference? Mdak06 ( talk) 22:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia includes an excellent history of golf championships, and their winners. I'm pretty sure that there are inaccuracies in the score relative to par though. For example - the 1954, 1961, 1962 and 1968 Open Championships show the winners being -5, -4, -12 and +1 respectively. I think the correct numbers are -9, -8, -16 and -3 respectively. The par score at Birkdale, Troon and Carnoustie has changed over the years, so understandable how the numbers could be wrong. However I have no means of confirming that, other than my memory. The same may be true for other major championship results listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by George1507 ( talk • contribs) 19:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Compare 2011 Women's British Open and 2012 Women's British Open. Golf has become Squash. Nigej 20:32, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, would anyone be able to tell me if Ian Finnis is notable enough for an article? I see from N:SPORTS that the criteria for golfers is more complicated than simple professionalism. Finnis is engaged to England and GB goalkeeper Rachel Brown. Despite knowing nothing about golf I'd quite like to make an article, but not if it will get deleted. Thanks, Clavdia chauchat ( talk) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Why does the List of golfers with most PGA Tour wins go all the way down to golfers with five wins when the corresponding lists for LPGA and Champions Tours stop at 10? I think they should be consistent. ...William 20:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
The article for Bandon Dunes Golf Resort doesn't list the new course. It is a 13 hole par 3 course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.165.26 ( talk) 02:41, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
User:Topcardi has changed Fred Robson in the 1927, 1929 and 1931 Ryder Cup pages so that he is now Welsh not English. Other pages: e.g. 1927 Open Championship, 1928 Open Championship, etc still have him as English.
It seems certain that he was born (25 April 1885) Frederick Robson in Shotton, Flintshire in Wales. Confirmed from various sources: 1901 census, 1911 census etc. The question is: does that make him Welsh? Legally there's no such nationality as Welsh or English, we're all British. Interestingly the BBC put on a program at the time of the 2010 Ryder Cup at Celtic Manor ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/wales/posts/welsh_ryder_cup_players) which didn't include Fred Robson amongst the Welsh Ryder Cup golfers. Perhaps just an oversight.Nigej 10:28, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Also seems he played for England. eg played for England professionals v Scotland 18 June 1910.Nigej 13:33, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Also: "Fred Robson, who was chosen by both the English and Scottish Selection Committees, was yesterday elected (sic) to play for England. An objection was raised by the Scottish Committee, but it was eventually agreed that he should be allowed to play for England, and that the question of his nationality should be decided at the annual general meeting of the Professional Golfers' Association on Monday." The Times 5 June 1909. Presumably, given that he played for England in 1910, it was decided he was English. Nigej 13:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
"He also represented England against Scotland at the same venue. Born on Welsh soil to a Scottish father and English mother, he was triply qualified and needed to choose which nation to represent. He preferred to play for the country where his golf was learned." ( http://www.golfcollectors.co.uk/u/cms/TTG_95_2010December.pdf#page=10) seems to be conclusive. Nigej 13:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC) .
Hi. I'm confused. Mission Hills Haikou has held an annual event for the past 3 yrs. The news says this latest one is the third, but they all have different names. I don't get it. What are they called? Please advise/edit. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 10:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
This has been proposed at talk:Disability golf classification -- 65.92.181.190 ( talk) 06:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Brought to my attention that the Web.com Tour [1] page still shows the former Nationwide Tour logo. Unsure of how to change the logo, but it needs to be updated to the current iteration. ( http://www.pgatour.com/.element/img/5.0/global/nav/web_com_logo.png)
Thanks Ltbeyer ( talk) 14:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian ( talk) 02:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
I have created a page ( User:Nigej/List of WGC-Matchplay golfers) containing a list of those who have played in the WGC-Matchplay and giving their performances year by year. I am proposing to copy it to List of WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship golfers and create a link to it from the WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship page.
While being of interest on its own merit, it might also prove useful to those creating World Golf Championships/Results timeline tables (e.g. Hunter Mahan#Results timeline) in individual player pages.
I would appreciate any comments. Nigej 09:16, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a courtesy message to inform the members of this project that I have nominated Portal:Sports for featured portal status. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Sports. The featured portal criteria are at Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria. Please feel free to weigh in. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I have been working on adding citations for verification for John Daly and Greg Norman articles. Both articles had multiple paragraphs with no citations for verifications. Since these articles are for living persons, these articles need to follow BLP requirements. I randomly checked a few other golf related articles, and found the same problem. I recommend a full review of golf related articles, and any statements which cannot be verified with a reference should be removed to avoid any potential problems. Mistercontributer ( talk) 23:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
I wanted to add an explanatory wikilink to this edit on a news page; I know no details of the rules of golf and guessed that some readers wouldn't either. But the term "drop" is not listed in the Drop disambiguation page, nor in Glossary of golf. -- John of Reading ( talk) 06:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
There is now an WP:IRC channel for collaboration between editors in various sports WikiProjects. It's located at #wikipedia-en-sports connect. Thanks Secret account 03:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Some corrections need to be made to this article. Snead defeated Palmer 3&2, not 2&1. Hermitage Country Club is now located in Manakin-Sabot, but in 1949 it was in the Lakeside area of Henrico County. The course where the PGA was played is now a public course called Belmont Golf Course, operated by Henrico County. http://www.co.henrico.va.us/rec/belmont-golf-course/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.106.163 ( talk) 18:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
These are two entirely separate subjects. The Honda Classic (golf tournament) was at one time hosted at the Mirasol Country Club. It is no longer the case and the tournament is now housed at PGA National
74.108.164.7 (
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18:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page)..
There is a deletion discussion on it taking place here [7] if anyone would like to take part in the debate. ...William 11:21, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Masters Tournaments on television template is also up for deletion [8]. ...William 11:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
US Open Golf Championships on television template is also up for deletion. [9] ...William 14:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
I notice the project page indicates that there is/was a discussion on notability guidelines for golf coures to be found here on the talk page. Has it been completed and archived away somewhere? WhaleyTim ( talk) 20:01, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I have next-to-no knowledge about golf, so could someone come and clean up David A. Russell (golfer), which I just wrote? Thanks. :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
this year I am going to St Andrews to again take some photos during Women's British Open. Just as two years ago I have acquired media pass to I'll be on the grounds with a camera during the actual competition as well. Should you have any special requests (I remember one, a bit too late though, regarding tv commentator two years ago) please drop me a message. Then, above that, we can possibly arrange some sort of mobile-text hotline while I'll be on the course.
Best, Wojtek ( Wmigda ( talk) 21:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC))
image:Zenos Frudakis Jack Nicklaus Louisville.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 03:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
The new article on Francis Scheid, an expert on golf handicapping, does not have enough other articles linking to it. Michael Hardy ( talk) 01:51, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
When either starting news articles, or attempting to improve existing ones, I have used Google News archive countless times. Google News Archive was merged into Google News over two years ago but you could still search it archives. That may have ended. Since yesterday when trying to do a archive via a archive search page I had long ago saved, I have been receiving 'The search option you have selected is currently unavailable'. Any links to archived articles still work. This for an example [10]. However if you try to do a archive search from that page, again you are stymied. I don't see a way to do an archive search from Google News main page either. It appears Google News archive searches are at an end. With it the job of working on anything that is dated from 15 or more years ago has become much harder. ...William 15:13, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
has been nominated for deletion. Come on over and participate in the discussion. ...William 15:44, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
I created Eisenhower Tree. Since its death has been prominent in the news, a user tried to add the Eisenhower Tree to the Deaths in 2014 list. But with its own article, it was removed. I know next to nothing about golf, but I suspect the article's subject's notability may be challenged. Any additional information someone on this project could add would be greatly appreciated. Cheers. EvergreenFir ( talk) 05:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi
I wonder why the "category: golf clubs and golf courses" are not separately as in the dutch wikipedia? It is the easiest way to distinguish the two. Some golf courses are not only managed by the golf clubs, but also by the country clubs. By definition, the golf clubs are not country clubs. Also some courses are not managed by both clubs.
I have in recent months on the dutch wikipedia three categories created: "Golf courses by country", "Golf Clubs by country" and "Country clubs by country" because the categories were so created at Wikimedia Commons. It is so handy for the Wikidata. -- 87lieven ( talk) 18:56, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Dear golfers: This article has just been moved by its creator out of Afc without passing a review. Perhaps someone here who knows about golf articles can check it for notability and needed improvements. — Anne Delong ( talk) 22:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know where to get a list of the top 10 finishers in the 1964 Jaycee Junior Golf event held in Saint Paul, Minnesota? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.53.102 ( talk) 21:29, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Following the discussion ( Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 March 22#Template:Infobox Presidents Cup) I have created a template ( Template:Infobox team golf tournament) to replace 5 existing templates ( Template:Infobox Ryder Cup, Template:Infobox Presidents Cup, Template:Infobox Seve Trophy, Template:Infobox Solheim Cup, Template:Infobox Walker Cup). Broadly speaking the infobox is intended to look the same as previously. The flags for GB&I have been placed above each other (as was done for the Walker Cup) and not side by side (as was previously the case for Ryder Cup and Seve Trophy).
I have changed a few of the pages to use the new template: 1927 Ryder Cup, 1973 Ryder Cup, 2011 Walker Cup, 2009 Solheim Cup, 2007 Presidents Cup, 2005 Seve Trophy. If there are no comments I shall change the other pages in the near future. Nigej ( talk) 18:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
One of the minor irritations of individual golf tournament pages (eg 2014 Masters Tournament) is that navigation to the previous year and next year of the event is surprisingly difficult. eg to navigate to the 2013 event from 2014 Masters Tournament involves scrolling to the bottom, showing Template:Masters Tournaments and then clicking on 2013.
I have added Previous/Next options to Template:Infobox individual golf tournament to provide easier navigation to the previous and next year of the event. Template:Infobox individual golf tournament/testcases shows what it looks like with these extensions (ignore the fact that there are two version side-by-side). The top version is a basic example, the second version (below) shows an example pre-tournament (with the winner not known), the third example shows the template when previous and next are not used (which is identical to the previous version).
We have 561 "transclusions" of this template at the moment and they have to be modified individually to use previous/next. Automating it (like Template:Infobox team golf tournament) would be difficult since there are a large number of events that use it and events change their names sometimes (eg 2000 WGC-Andersen Consulting Match Play Championship was followed by 2001 WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship).
I would gladly add these if people though it was useful. Nigej ( talk) 15:19, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I have updated Template:Golf Major Championships master to only include majors that were actually played. You might need to WP:PURGE to get the new version. eg add "?action=purge" to your address bar. See eg end of 1942 Masters Tournament, show "1942 Men's Major Golf Championships" and you should have just Masters + PGA. Nigej ( talk) 10:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- 1899 Winner Ruth Underhill link is to Ruth Underhill the anthropologist (born in 1883). That article makes no mention of a golfing career. No page exists for Ruth Underhill the golfer. 72.80.108.149 ( talk) 16:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Please take a look at:
Thanks Wici Rhuthun 1 ( talk) 11:54, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Dear
Recently I created the article Virginia Beach Open on the Dutch wikipedia and the list of winners is complete. See Virgina Beach Open on Dutch Wiki and for the WikiData: Q15999259. -- 87lieven ( talk) 08:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
A discussion has begun to outline usage of flags on sports articles and to review their usage. Sports articles have long diverged from what is stated in the manual of style. Please comment on the proposals and add suggestions by contributing at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. Thanks. SFB 13:59, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
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All the Lucy Li hype has got me wondering what www.uskidsgolf.com/ is all about. Also, have people seen The Short Game?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:57, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Are we now removing country flags from golf player infoboxes? As just now here? I know there was discussion in the past w/regard to the MOS on flags, and how it applied (or did not apply) to golf/tennis/and certain other sports (generally, where the media and official url reflect flags), but can't seem to find the discussion.
Whatever we do, I expect we should apply our approach uniformly to all golfers, unless there is a good reason not to. -- Epeefleche ( talk) 03:12, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
As of yet, I'm not a part of this project (Although I may like to be), but, just the same, would it be alright if I have a view on this topic? Johnsmith2116 ( talk) 19:02, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
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User:Ocfootballknut/sandbox/Template:PGA Section Championships. FoCuSandLeArN ( talk) 22:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm referring here to pages like: 2014 Masters Tournament. These are mostly Men's Major Championships (431 - ignoring 2015 events), (individual) WGC events (53) and Women's Major Championships (265) with a few others. Nearly all these have importance=low but a small number of men's majors have importance=mid:
This seems a pretty random selection to me. I have a few suggestions:
There are similar issues for Specific Team Tournaments like: 2014 Ryder Cup. Currently these are all importance=low but, given the importance of the Ryder Cup relative to the others (even the Presidents Cup), it's tempting to have importance=mid for all the Ryder Cup matches (or perhaps a selection of them).
Nigej ( talk) 09:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I've wondered how I can be a part of this. Is there a way I can join? Johnsmith2116 ( talk) 01:14, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
I have made a number of changes to Wikipedia:WikiProject Golf/Core Articles. Many of these were because it has got out of sync with Category:Top-importance_Golf_articles. I have reduced a number of articles to importance=high which seems an underpopulated level. Nigej ( talk) 08:56, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I propose that runners-up be listed, whenever possible, in the Winners table, as seen here. Most tournaments have winner tables like this, so it shouldn't be too hard to add. However, some tournaments have nothing more than just a list of winners ( example), so it might be harder to add to those. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 00:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
I have added a "comments" parameter to the {{ WikiProject Golf}} template. See Talk:1860 Open Championship as an example of its use. This is to cover the suggestion above (Importance of Specific Individual Tournaments) that Tournaments with an importance other than the normal one expected (generally "low") need to have some explanation. I intend to create my own list of mid-importance Majors in the next couple of weeks and then I'll report back here and you can shoot it down in flames. You can always find a list of articles using the comments parameter here: Category:Golf articles with comments. I don't foresee any great use of this comments feature, seems a waste of time to use is too much when there's so many more useful things to do here. Nigej ( talk) 07:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
I have added some guidelines here Wikipedia:WikiProject_Golf/Assessment#Specific individual tournament pages for pages like 2014 Masters Tournament. This is meant to discourage the creation of pages for less important events, to indicate the pages that are currently missing and to provide some basis for the assessment of these pages. These seems to be some interest in these pages, with regular editing by a number of editors. Team events will be next. Nigej ( talk) 13:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
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(moved from preceding section)
On an unrelated note, I intend to expand the season-by-season FedEx Cup articles, perhaps to include a list of qualifiers. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 00:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
eg:
Player | Pre-Playoffs | The Barclays | Deutsche Bank | BMW Champ. | Reset points |
Tour Champ. | ||||||
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Points | Rank | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Final pts. | Final rank | ||
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3,059 | 1 | T2 | 1 | T65 | 2 | T11 | 1 | ||||
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2,293 | 2 | T19 | 4 | T4 | 4 | T24 | 5 | ||||
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2,218 | 3 | CUT | 6 | T47 | 9 | T18 | 10 | ||||
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2,166 | 4 | T6 | 3 | T41 | 6 | T33 | 8 | ||||
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1,505 | 5 | T25 | 8 | CUT | 17 | T28 | 18 |
Try sorting on the finish columns. Nigej ( talk) 20:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Player | Pre-Playoffs | The Barclays | Deutsche Bank | BMW Champ. | Reset points |
Tour Champ. | |||||||
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Points | Rank | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Final pts. | Final rank | |||
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Tiger Woods | 3,059 | 1 | T2 | 1 | T65 | 2 | T11 | 1 | # | # | # | # |
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Matt Kuchar | 2,293 | 2 | T19 | 4 | T4 | 4 | T24 | 5 | # | # | # | # |
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Brandt Snedeker | 2,218 | 3 | CUT | 6 | T47 | 9 | T18 | 10 | # | # | # | # |
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Phil Mickelson | 2,166 | 4 | T6 | 3 | T41 | 6 | T33 | 8 | # | # | # | # |
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Bill Haas | 1,505 | 5 | T25 | 8 | CUT | 17 | T28 | 18 | # | # | # | # |
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Henrik Stenson | 1,426 | 9 | T43 | 13 | 1 | 1 | T33 | 2 | # | # | # | # |
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Tim Clark | 703 | 56 | CUT | 70 | CUT | 80 | – | ??? | N/A | – | ??? | 80 |
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instead of the actual character is.
pʰeːnuːmuː →
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ɸinimi →
fiɲimi
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Regarding the MDFs: I had intended to change them to "{{ntsh|71}}MDF", etc., so they would sort as the actual place and still read "MDF". I think it's a little misleading to list someone as having finished 71st, when they didn't actually finish. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 20:50, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Please join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox golfer#Nationality field. Tewapack ( talk) 20:01, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I have restarted the "Nationality field" "discussion" at Template talk:Infobox golfer#Summary. Nigej ( talk) 17:58, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
We have Johnny Golden (who played in the first two Ryder Cup matches) born in the US but there are some references to him being born in Europe: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/3912857.stm http://trenhamgolfhistory.org/Section19221929.html Anyone know the truth? Nigej ( talk) 07:41, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
"Specific two-team tournament page" means pages like 2014 Ryder Cup, not Ryder Cup itself (not a specific event), not 2013 World Cup of Golf (multi-team).
We have somewhat less than 100 of these: Ryder Cup (40), Presidents Cup (10), Seve Trophy (8), Royal Trophy (7), EurAsia Cup (1), Solheim Cup (13), Lexus Cup (4), Walker Cup (10). They are all of a rather similar style and all (I think) have a section called "Teams" or something similar which lists the team players plus usually the captains and occasionally vice-captains/assistant captains. In this section flagicons are generally used to indicate the "sporting nationality" of the individuals, except in the case of the United States team where flagicons are not generally used since each individual would have the same flagicon.
For Ryder Cup, Seve Trophy, Solheim Cup and Walker Cup there is general use of flagicons to indicate the teams. In the Seve Trophy we use the Europe flag for Continental Europe. For Presidents Cup, Royal Trophy, EurAsia Cup, Lexus Cup flagicons are not used to represent the teams since no suitable flagicon is available for one of the teams (International or Asia).
My proposal for these "Specific two-team tournament page" is this:
The above is broadly the current situation.
Nigej ( talk) 08:58, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
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WP:Golf members who have an opinion regarding the use of flag icons in sports articles may wish to comment in this ongoing discussion: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons#Formula 1. Thank you. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 11:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
There are countless references to Horton Smith being 21 years and 4 days old when he played in the 1929 Ryder Cup. This is something of a mystery to me since it seems he was born on May 22, 1908 and the 1929 Ryder Cup started on April 26, 1929, making him somewhat less than 21 (see List of Ryder Cup records#United States 5). It seems that either folk think he was born on April 22 or that the 1929 Ryder Cup started on May 26. Nigej ( talk) 17:43, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
The recent discussions about Nationality at Template talk:Infobox golfer#Nationality field have clarified that Nationality here relates to "Sporting Nationality". There was a discussion here sometime back (2012) about Fred Robson: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Golf/Archive 4#Fred Robson: Welsh or English?. My conclusion now is that Robson should be regarded as English, despite being born in Wales. He played for England in professional golf matches. The only negative point is that this choice could have been one of expediency since England were playing matches but not Wales (I think).
Currently we have a mish-mash where he is Welsh in the 1927, 1929 and 1931 Ryder Cup pages but English here: List of European Ryder Cup golfers. In the 1910 Open Championship and 1911 Open Championship he is British while in 1927 Open Championship, 1928 Open Championship, 1930 Open Championship, 1932 Open Championship he is English. Nigej ( talk) 10:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
I have Proposed for deletion Turnberry, Ailsa Course since it duplicates Turnberry (golf course). Turnberry, Ailsa Course is not currently part of WP:GOLF. Nigej ( talk) 22:14, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
I have done some tidying up of the Golf templates. These are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Golf/Templates (except for odd ones lined up for deletion). There are 358 templates in WP:Golf. That sounds like a lot but a number of these are team navboxes for specific Ryder Cups/Presidents Cups/Solheim Cups eg {{ 2014 United States Ryder Cup team}} (126). There are also quite a few stub notices eg {{ SouthKorea-golf-bio-stub}} (49). If you create/rename/delete templates please update Wikipedia:WikiProject Golf/Templates.
I'm inclined to try and get rid of {{ Male golfers who have won 2 or more Major Championships in one year}} and {{ Female golfers who have won two or more Major Championships in one year}}. These simply duplicate the information in Men's major golf championships#Multiple majors victories in a calendar year and Women's major golf championships#Multiple majors in a calendar year. Following this approach would lead to a navbox for every golf record there is. The same could be argued for eg {{ Men's Career Grand Slam Champion Golfers}}. Nigej ( talk) 09:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm talking here about pages named "NNNN Name Tour" where NNNN in the year, e.g. 2014 PGA Tour (or tour pages where similar information is built into the main article eg OneAsia with redirect from 2014 OneAsia Tour). (331 of these + 14 redirects, excluding 2015 tours)
I've assessed or reassessed these individual year pages as class=start rather than class=stub (which most were) since most are of a similar standard, containing primarily a list of events/winners and a navbox at the bottom, and are not likely to be improved significantly in the near future. Quite a few pages are missing but overall the coverage is good. A few points:
1) There seems to be a certain randomness as to whether we have separate pages or built-in lists. Separate pages are used for the more important tours and for the longer standing ones.
2) For the Legends Tour we have 2 separate pages (2006, 2007) and 2 built into the main article (2012, 2013). 2014 is currently missing.
3) For the Argentinian tours we have TPG Tour (which is very out of date) plus 6 specific season pages ( 2004 Argentine Professional Golf Tour, 2005 PGA Argentina Tour, 2006 PGA Argentina Tour, 2007 TPG Tour, 2008 TPG Tour, 2009 TPG Tour). Looks like the TPG tour is still going, see http://tour.pgargentina.org.ar/tour/ (in spanish). All this needs sorting out. I've left the 6 specific season pages as stubs for now.
The tour graduates pages (like 2014 Challenge Tour graduates, 2014 European Tour Qualifying School graduates, 2014 Web.com Tour Finals graduates) are class=list (59 of these).
Nigej ( talk) 16:47, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Tracland ( talk) 12:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Excluding 2015 pages we have 351 of these pages plus an additional 31 which are built into the tour page and accessible through a redirect. (331 above was a mistake - was 348, 3 Legends Tour seasons added since) This excludes the Japan Challenge Tour. For some reason we delete old versions of the schedule, available here: ( 2010 2011 2012 2013).
Articles: 251 254a (+ 15 12a redirects)
Articles: 100 104a (+ 16 redirects)
Total: 351 358a (+ 31 28a redirects)
a Updated PGA Tour Latinoamerica on 10 January 2014 into 3 separate pages as per above discussion Tracland ( talk) 23:40, 10 January 2015 (UTC), + 4 Legends Tour Nigej ( talk) 10:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Created: Champions Tour, European Seniors Tour, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, LPGA Tour, LPGA of Japan Tour, Ladies European Tour, Legends Tour, PGA Tour, PGA Tour of Australasia, Sunshine Tour
Missing (for tours that have 2014 pages): Asian Tour, Challenge Tour, Korean Tour, LPGA of Korea Tour, PGA Tour Canada, Symetra Tour, Web.com Tour
Query for the interested about the contents of Template:Footer MensMajors. This navbox, which has been stable for years, was recently edited to remove some tournaments that are considered semi-major in certain contexts around the world (namely the outright removal of the link to Triple Crown (golf) and the two semi-majors (the South African Open and Canadian Open) that are included in definitions of that term. Also removed was the Players Championship, often called the "fifth major", at least in US PGA Tour contexts. These were not part of the section of current majors, which is the first and most prominent part, but under a section called "related" (which isn't exactly a great name). So the two fold question is this: First, should they be listed in this template at all? Secondly, if they are, what should be the section name? oknazevad ( talk) 02:44, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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I have put on info box on the Challenge Tour page to be consistent with other tour pages and as per the discussion above but do not have an image of the tour logo to use. Could someone put up an image in the info box.
Thanks Tracland ( talk) 10:37, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Noticed that the European Tour page is also missing the logo from its page, would appreciate it if someone could put this up too. Tracland ( talk) 10:40, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
We are missing 2 women's tours completely: China Ladies Professional Golf Association Tour (aka: China LPGA Tour/ CLPGA Tour) and the Ladies European Access Series (aka: Ladies European Tour Access Series/ LET Access Series/ LETAS). Both get WWGR points. Nigej ( talk) 12:36, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
I have developed the following formula for results tables on tournament articles.
Year | Champion | Country | Course (if necessary) |
Location (if necessary) |
Score | To par | Margin of victory |
Runner(s)-up | Winner's share ($) (if necessary) |
Purse ($) (if necessary) |
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2015 | Glen Abbey Golf Course | Oakville, Ontario | 1,044,000 | 5,800,000 | |||||||
2014 | Winner's name (2) | ![]() |
Name of course | Location | 263 | −17 | 1 stroke |
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1,026,000 | 5,700,000 | |
2013 | Winner's name | ![]() |
Name of course | Location | 265 | −15 | Playoff |
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1,008,000 | 5,600,000 |
Please let me know what you think. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 16:51, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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You can find the page here. [1]. The reasons- Isn't a Major Championship, or the small group of other events where a yearly tournament merits its own article ...William 17:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
You can find the discussion here [2] ...William 19:51, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
The current way the major championships summary tables are displayed is not that easy to read - all the "DNP"s can make it difficult to pick out the results. It would be better to leave those cells (almost) blank, e.g.:
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On the right, the results stand out much more easily. Thoughts? 81.142.107.230 ( talk) 09:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
I was trying to clean several NCAA athletic conference pages recently. July 1 was the day that numerous schools changed their conference affiliation, so I've been one of many folks updating pages. I came across the Great West Conference, which has only a few full members and a few more associate members.
Anyway, I went to the Great West Conference website to get some information. When I was there, I found that the page on men's golf replaces the "Great West" logo with the "America Sky Men's Golf Conference" logo (something I'd never heard of before). As it turns out, according to this article from September 2010, "The America Sky Conference was formed in the summer of 2007 by schools in the America East (Binghamton, Hartford) and Big Sky (Northern Colorado, Sacramento State, Weber State) conferences, as well as then-independents Texas-Pan American and Utah Valley. Last summer, Chicago State, Houston Baptist, North Dakota, and South Dakota came from the Great West Conference."
What I'd like to know (if anyone happens to know): is America Sky Conference an actual separate athletic conference that has its own management? Is it run jointly by the America East, Big Sky and Great West conferences, or perhaps managed by one of them? Its online home is apparently on the Great West site, but they were the last to join, so I really don't know if they're "in charge" or not. The List of NCAA conferences page does not mention it. There's no America Sky Men's Golf Conference page on Wikipedia either.
I don't want to add it to the Great West page on Wikipedia if they're not in charge of it; if that's the case, I think it should be a separate page. I figured if anyone on Wikipedia knows about it, they might be here. I'd think that if this conference has a separate organizational structure of some kind, it should have its own Wikipedia page, and if it's administered by another conference (presumably the Great West, since it's on their website) then it should have a mention on that page.
Does anyone know anything about this golf conference? Mdak06 ( talk) 22:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia includes an excellent history of golf championships, and their winners. I'm pretty sure that there are inaccuracies in the score relative to par though. For example - the 1954, 1961, 1962 and 1968 Open Championships show the winners being -5, -4, -12 and +1 respectively. I think the correct numbers are -9, -8, -16 and -3 respectively. The par score at Birkdale, Troon and Carnoustie has changed over the years, so understandable how the numbers could be wrong. However I have no means of confirming that, other than my memory. The same may be true for other major championship results listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by George1507 ( talk • contribs) 19:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Compare 2011 Women's British Open and 2012 Women's British Open. Golf has become Squash. Nigej 20:32, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, would anyone be able to tell me if Ian Finnis is notable enough for an article? I see from N:SPORTS that the criteria for golfers is more complicated than simple professionalism. Finnis is engaged to England and GB goalkeeper Rachel Brown. Despite knowing nothing about golf I'd quite like to make an article, but not if it will get deleted. Thanks, Clavdia chauchat ( talk) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Why does the List of golfers with most PGA Tour wins go all the way down to golfers with five wins when the corresponding lists for LPGA and Champions Tours stop at 10? I think they should be consistent. ...William 20:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
The article for Bandon Dunes Golf Resort doesn't list the new course. It is a 13 hole par 3 course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.165.26 ( talk) 02:41, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
User:Topcardi has changed Fred Robson in the 1927, 1929 and 1931 Ryder Cup pages so that he is now Welsh not English. Other pages: e.g. 1927 Open Championship, 1928 Open Championship, etc still have him as English.
It seems certain that he was born (25 April 1885) Frederick Robson in Shotton, Flintshire in Wales. Confirmed from various sources: 1901 census, 1911 census etc. The question is: does that make him Welsh? Legally there's no such nationality as Welsh or English, we're all British. Interestingly the BBC put on a program at the time of the 2010 Ryder Cup at Celtic Manor ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/wales/posts/welsh_ryder_cup_players) which didn't include Fred Robson amongst the Welsh Ryder Cup golfers. Perhaps just an oversight.Nigej 10:28, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Also seems he played for England. eg played for England professionals v Scotland 18 June 1910.Nigej 13:33, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Also: "Fred Robson, who was chosen by both the English and Scottish Selection Committees, was yesterday elected (sic) to play for England. An objection was raised by the Scottish Committee, but it was eventually agreed that he should be allowed to play for England, and that the question of his nationality should be decided at the annual general meeting of the Professional Golfers' Association on Monday." The Times 5 June 1909. Presumably, given that he played for England in 1910, it was decided he was English. Nigej 13:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
"He also represented England against Scotland at the same venue. Born on Welsh soil to a Scottish father and English mother, he was triply qualified and needed to choose which nation to represent. He preferred to play for the country where his golf was learned." ( http://www.golfcollectors.co.uk/u/cms/TTG_95_2010December.pdf#page=10) seems to be conclusive. Nigej 13:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC) .
Hi. I'm confused. Mission Hills Haikou has held an annual event for the past 3 yrs. The news says this latest one is the third, but they all have different names. I don't get it. What are they called? Please advise/edit. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 10:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
This has been proposed at talk:Disability golf classification -- 65.92.181.190 ( talk) 06:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Brought to my attention that the Web.com Tour [1] page still shows the former Nationwide Tour logo. Unsure of how to change the logo, but it needs to be updated to the current iteration. ( http://www.pgatour.com/.element/img/5.0/global/nav/web_com_logo.png)
Thanks Ltbeyer ( talk) 14:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian ( talk) 02:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
I have created a page ( User:Nigej/List of WGC-Matchplay golfers) containing a list of those who have played in the WGC-Matchplay and giving their performances year by year. I am proposing to copy it to List of WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship golfers and create a link to it from the WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship page.
While being of interest on its own merit, it might also prove useful to those creating World Golf Championships/Results timeline tables (e.g. Hunter Mahan#Results timeline) in individual player pages.
I would appreciate any comments. Nigej 09:16, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a courtesy message to inform the members of this project that I have nominated Portal:Sports for featured portal status. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Sports. The featured portal criteria are at Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria. Please feel free to weigh in. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I have been working on adding citations for verification for John Daly and Greg Norman articles. Both articles had multiple paragraphs with no citations for verifications. Since these articles are for living persons, these articles need to follow BLP requirements. I randomly checked a few other golf related articles, and found the same problem. I recommend a full review of golf related articles, and any statements which cannot be verified with a reference should be removed to avoid any potential problems. Mistercontributer ( talk) 23:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
I wanted to add an explanatory wikilink to this edit on a news page; I know no details of the rules of golf and guessed that some readers wouldn't either. But the term "drop" is not listed in the Drop disambiguation page, nor in Glossary of golf. -- John of Reading ( talk) 06:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
There is now an WP:IRC channel for collaboration between editors in various sports WikiProjects. It's located at #wikipedia-en-sports connect. Thanks Secret account 03:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Some corrections need to be made to this article. Snead defeated Palmer 3&2, not 2&1. Hermitage Country Club is now located in Manakin-Sabot, but in 1949 it was in the Lakeside area of Henrico County. The course where the PGA was played is now a public course called Belmont Golf Course, operated by Henrico County. http://www.co.henrico.va.us/rec/belmont-golf-course/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.106.163 ( talk) 18:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
These are two entirely separate subjects. The Honda Classic (golf tournament) was at one time hosted at the Mirasol Country Club. It is no longer the case and the tournament is now housed at PGA National
74.108.164.7 (
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18:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page)..
There is a deletion discussion on it taking place here [7] if anyone would like to take part in the debate. ...William 11:21, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Masters Tournaments on television template is also up for deletion [8]. ...William 11:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
US Open Golf Championships on television template is also up for deletion. [9] ...William 14:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
I notice the project page indicates that there is/was a discussion on notability guidelines for golf coures to be found here on the talk page. Has it been completed and archived away somewhere? WhaleyTim ( talk) 20:01, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I have next-to-no knowledge about golf, so could someone come and clean up David A. Russell (golfer), which I just wrote? Thanks. :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
this year I am going to St Andrews to again take some photos during Women's British Open. Just as two years ago I have acquired media pass to I'll be on the grounds with a camera during the actual competition as well. Should you have any special requests (I remember one, a bit too late though, regarding tv commentator two years ago) please drop me a message. Then, above that, we can possibly arrange some sort of mobile-text hotline while I'll be on the course.
Best, Wojtek ( Wmigda ( talk) 21:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC))
image:Zenos Frudakis Jack Nicklaus Louisville.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 03:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
The new article on Francis Scheid, an expert on golf handicapping, does not have enough other articles linking to it. Michael Hardy ( talk) 01:51, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
When either starting news articles, or attempting to improve existing ones, I have used Google News archive countless times. Google News Archive was merged into Google News over two years ago but you could still search it archives. That may have ended. Since yesterday when trying to do a archive via a archive search page I had long ago saved, I have been receiving 'The search option you have selected is currently unavailable'. Any links to archived articles still work. This for an example [10]. However if you try to do a archive search from that page, again you are stymied. I don't see a way to do an archive search from Google News main page either. It appears Google News archive searches are at an end. With it the job of working on anything that is dated from 15 or more years ago has become much harder. ...William 15:13, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
has been nominated for deletion. Come on over and participate in the discussion. ...William 15:44, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
I created Eisenhower Tree. Since its death has been prominent in the news, a user tried to add the Eisenhower Tree to the Deaths in 2014 list. But with its own article, it was removed. I know next to nothing about golf, but I suspect the article's subject's notability may be challenged. Any additional information someone on this project could add would be greatly appreciated. Cheers. EvergreenFir ( talk) 05:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi
I wonder why the "category: golf clubs and golf courses" are not separately as in the dutch wikipedia? It is the easiest way to distinguish the two. Some golf courses are not only managed by the golf clubs, but also by the country clubs. By definition, the golf clubs are not country clubs. Also some courses are not managed by both clubs.
I have in recent months on the dutch wikipedia three categories created: "Golf courses by country", "Golf Clubs by country" and "Country clubs by country" because the categories were so created at Wikimedia Commons. It is so handy for the Wikidata. -- 87lieven ( talk) 18:56, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Dear golfers: This article has just been moved by its creator out of Afc without passing a review. Perhaps someone here who knows about golf articles can check it for notability and needed improvements. — Anne Delong ( talk) 22:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know where to get a list of the top 10 finishers in the 1964 Jaycee Junior Golf event held in Saint Paul, Minnesota? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.53.102 ( talk) 21:29, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Following the discussion ( Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 March 22#Template:Infobox Presidents Cup) I have created a template ( Template:Infobox team golf tournament) to replace 5 existing templates ( Template:Infobox Ryder Cup, Template:Infobox Presidents Cup, Template:Infobox Seve Trophy, Template:Infobox Solheim Cup, Template:Infobox Walker Cup). Broadly speaking the infobox is intended to look the same as previously. The flags for GB&I have been placed above each other (as was done for the Walker Cup) and not side by side (as was previously the case for Ryder Cup and Seve Trophy).
I have changed a few of the pages to use the new template: 1927 Ryder Cup, 1973 Ryder Cup, 2011 Walker Cup, 2009 Solheim Cup, 2007 Presidents Cup, 2005 Seve Trophy. If there are no comments I shall change the other pages in the near future. Nigej ( talk) 18:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
One of the minor irritations of individual golf tournament pages (eg 2014 Masters Tournament) is that navigation to the previous year and next year of the event is surprisingly difficult. eg to navigate to the 2013 event from 2014 Masters Tournament involves scrolling to the bottom, showing Template:Masters Tournaments and then clicking on 2013.
I have added Previous/Next options to Template:Infobox individual golf tournament to provide easier navigation to the previous and next year of the event. Template:Infobox individual golf tournament/testcases shows what it looks like with these extensions (ignore the fact that there are two version side-by-side). The top version is a basic example, the second version (below) shows an example pre-tournament (with the winner not known), the third example shows the template when previous and next are not used (which is identical to the previous version).
We have 561 "transclusions" of this template at the moment and they have to be modified individually to use previous/next. Automating it (like Template:Infobox team golf tournament) would be difficult since there are a large number of events that use it and events change their names sometimes (eg 2000 WGC-Andersen Consulting Match Play Championship was followed by 2001 WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship).
I would gladly add these if people though it was useful. Nigej ( talk) 15:19, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I have updated Template:Golf Major Championships master to only include majors that were actually played. You might need to WP:PURGE to get the new version. eg add "?action=purge" to your address bar. See eg end of 1942 Masters Tournament, show "1942 Men's Major Golf Championships" and you should have just Masters + PGA. Nigej ( talk) 10:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- 1899 Winner Ruth Underhill link is to Ruth Underhill the anthropologist (born in 1883). That article makes no mention of a golfing career. No page exists for Ruth Underhill the golfer. 72.80.108.149 ( talk) 16:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Please take a look at:
Thanks Wici Rhuthun 1 ( talk) 11:54, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Dear
Recently I created the article Virginia Beach Open on the Dutch wikipedia and the list of winners is complete. See Virgina Beach Open on Dutch Wiki and for the WikiData: Q15999259. -- 87lieven ( talk) 08:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
A discussion has begun to outline usage of flags on sports articles and to review their usage. Sports articles have long diverged from what is stated in the manual of style. Please comment on the proposals and add suggestions by contributing at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. Thanks. SFB 13:59, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
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All the Lucy Li hype has got me wondering what www.uskidsgolf.com/ is all about. Also, have people seen The Short Game?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:57, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Are we now removing country flags from golf player infoboxes? As just now here? I know there was discussion in the past w/regard to the MOS on flags, and how it applied (or did not apply) to golf/tennis/and certain other sports (generally, where the media and official url reflect flags), but can't seem to find the discussion.
Whatever we do, I expect we should apply our approach uniformly to all golfers, unless there is a good reason not to. -- Epeefleche ( talk) 03:12, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
As of yet, I'm not a part of this project (Although I may like to be), but, just the same, would it be alright if I have a view on this topic? Johnsmith2116 ( talk) 19:02, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
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User:Ocfootballknut/sandbox/Template:PGA Section Championships. FoCuSandLeArN ( talk) 22:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm referring here to pages like: 2014 Masters Tournament. These are mostly Men's Major Championships (431 - ignoring 2015 events), (individual) WGC events (53) and Women's Major Championships (265) with a few others. Nearly all these have importance=low but a small number of men's majors have importance=mid:
This seems a pretty random selection to me. I have a few suggestions:
There are similar issues for Specific Team Tournaments like: 2014 Ryder Cup. Currently these are all importance=low but, given the importance of the Ryder Cup relative to the others (even the Presidents Cup), it's tempting to have importance=mid for all the Ryder Cup matches (or perhaps a selection of them).
Nigej ( talk) 09:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I've wondered how I can be a part of this. Is there a way I can join? Johnsmith2116 ( talk) 01:14, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
I have made a number of changes to Wikipedia:WikiProject Golf/Core Articles. Many of these were because it has got out of sync with Category:Top-importance_Golf_articles. I have reduced a number of articles to importance=high which seems an underpopulated level. Nigej ( talk) 08:56, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I propose that runners-up be listed, whenever possible, in the Winners table, as seen here. Most tournaments have winner tables like this, so it shouldn't be too hard to add. However, some tournaments have nothing more than just a list of winners ( example), so it might be harder to add to those. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 00:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
I have added a "comments" parameter to the {{ WikiProject Golf}} template. See Talk:1860 Open Championship as an example of its use. This is to cover the suggestion above (Importance of Specific Individual Tournaments) that Tournaments with an importance other than the normal one expected (generally "low") need to have some explanation. I intend to create my own list of mid-importance Majors in the next couple of weeks and then I'll report back here and you can shoot it down in flames. You can always find a list of articles using the comments parameter here: Category:Golf articles with comments. I don't foresee any great use of this comments feature, seems a waste of time to use is too much when there's so many more useful things to do here. Nigej ( talk) 07:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
I have added some guidelines here Wikipedia:WikiProject_Golf/Assessment#Specific individual tournament pages for pages like 2014 Masters Tournament. This is meant to discourage the creation of pages for less important events, to indicate the pages that are currently missing and to provide some basis for the assessment of these pages. These seems to be some interest in these pages, with regular editing by a number of editors. Team events will be next. Nigej ( talk) 13:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Informed editors requested to help review Draft:Sequoyah Country Club. Is this club notable? What features does the draft need to improve? Feel free to add written comments directly to the top, or use AFC tools to "approve" the draft if you think it's ready to publish. Thanks! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 18:26, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
(moved from preceding section)
On an unrelated note, I intend to expand the season-by-season FedEx Cup articles, perhaps to include a list of qualifiers. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 00:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
eg:
Player | Pre-Playoffs | The Barclays | Deutsche Bank | BMW Champ. | Reset points |
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3,059 | 1 | T2 | 1 | T65 | 2 | T11 | 1 | ||||
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2,293 | 2 | T19 | 4 | T4 | 4 | T24 | 5 | ||||
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2,218 | 3 | CUT | 6 | T47 | 9 | T18 | 10 | ||||
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2,166 | 4 | T6 | 3 | T41 | 6 | T33 | 8 | ||||
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1,505 | 5 | T25 | 8 | CUT | 17 | T28 | 18 |
Try sorting on the finish columns. Nigej ( talk) 20:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Player | Pre-Playoffs | The Barclays | Deutsche Bank | BMW Champ. | Reset points |
Tour Champ. | |||||||
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Points | Rank | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Rank after | Finish | Final pts. | Final rank | |||
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Tiger Woods | 3,059 | 1 | T2 | 1 | T65 | 2 | T11 | 1 | # | # | # | # |
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Matt Kuchar | 2,293 | 2 | T19 | 4 | T4 | 4 | T24 | 5 | # | # | # | # |
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Brandt Snedeker | 2,218 | 3 | CUT | 6 | T47 | 9 | T18 | 10 | # | # | # | # |
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Phil Mickelson | 2,166 | 4 | T6 | 3 | T41 | 6 | T33 | 8 | # | # | # | # |
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Bill Haas | 1,505 | 5 | T25 | 8 | CUT | 17 | T28 | 18 | # | # | # | # |
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Henrik Stenson | 1,426 | 9 | T43 | 13 | 1 | 1 | T33 | 2 | # | # | # | # |
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Tim Clark | 703 | 56 | CUT | 70 | CUT | 80 | – | ??? | N/A | – | ??? | 80 |
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instead of the actual character is.
pʰeːnuːmuː →
pʰiːnyːmyː →
ɸinimi →
fiɲimi
15:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Regarding the MDFs: I had intended to change them to "{{ntsh|71}}MDF", etc., so they would sort as the actual place and still read "MDF". I think it's a little misleading to list someone as having finished 71st, when they didn't actually finish. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 20:50, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Please join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox golfer#Nationality field. Tewapack ( talk) 20:01, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I have restarted the "Nationality field" "discussion" at Template talk:Infobox golfer#Summary. Nigej ( talk) 17:58, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
We have Johnny Golden (who played in the first two Ryder Cup matches) born in the US but there are some references to him being born in Europe: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/3912857.stm http://trenhamgolfhistory.org/Section19221929.html Anyone know the truth? Nigej ( talk) 07:41, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
"Specific two-team tournament page" means pages like 2014 Ryder Cup, not Ryder Cup itself (not a specific event), not 2013 World Cup of Golf (multi-team).
We have somewhat less than 100 of these: Ryder Cup (40), Presidents Cup (10), Seve Trophy (8), Royal Trophy (7), EurAsia Cup (1), Solheim Cup (13), Lexus Cup (4), Walker Cup (10). They are all of a rather similar style and all (I think) have a section called "Teams" or something similar which lists the team players plus usually the captains and occasionally vice-captains/assistant captains. In this section flagicons are generally used to indicate the "sporting nationality" of the individuals, except in the case of the United States team where flagicons are not generally used since each individual would have the same flagicon.
For Ryder Cup, Seve Trophy, Solheim Cup and Walker Cup there is general use of flagicons to indicate the teams. In the Seve Trophy we use the Europe flag for Continental Europe. For Presidents Cup, Royal Trophy, EurAsia Cup, Lexus Cup flagicons are not used to represent the teams since no suitable flagicon is available for one of the teams (International or Asia).
My proposal for these "Specific two-team tournament page" is this:
The above is broadly the current situation.
Nigej ( talk) 08:58, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
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WP:Golf members who have an opinion regarding the use of flag icons in sports articles may wish to comment in this ongoing discussion: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons#Formula 1. Thank you. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 11:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
There are countless references to Horton Smith being 21 years and 4 days old when he played in the 1929 Ryder Cup. This is something of a mystery to me since it seems he was born on May 22, 1908 and the 1929 Ryder Cup started on April 26, 1929, making him somewhat less than 21 (see List of Ryder Cup records#United States 5). It seems that either folk think he was born on April 22 or that the 1929 Ryder Cup started on May 26. Nigej ( talk) 17:43, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
The recent discussions about Nationality at Template talk:Infobox golfer#Nationality field have clarified that Nationality here relates to "Sporting Nationality". There was a discussion here sometime back (2012) about Fred Robson: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Golf/Archive 4#Fred Robson: Welsh or English?. My conclusion now is that Robson should be regarded as English, despite being born in Wales. He played for England in professional golf matches. The only negative point is that this choice could have been one of expediency since England were playing matches but not Wales (I think).
Currently we have a mish-mash where he is Welsh in the 1927, 1929 and 1931 Ryder Cup pages but English here: List of European Ryder Cup golfers. In the 1910 Open Championship and 1911 Open Championship he is British while in 1927 Open Championship, 1928 Open Championship, 1930 Open Championship, 1932 Open Championship he is English. Nigej ( talk) 10:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
I have Proposed for deletion Turnberry, Ailsa Course since it duplicates Turnberry (golf course). Turnberry, Ailsa Course is not currently part of WP:GOLF. Nigej ( talk) 22:14, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
I have done some tidying up of the Golf templates. These are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Golf/Templates (except for odd ones lined up for deletion). There are 358 templates in WP:Golf. That sounds like a lot but a number of these are team navboxes for specific Ryder Cups/Presidents Cups/Solheim Cups eg {{ 2014 United States Ryder Cup team}} (126). There are also quite a few stub notices eg {{ SouthKorea-golf-bio-stub}} (49). If you create/rename/delete templates please update Wikipedia:WikiProject Golf/Templates.
I'm inclined to try and get rid of {{ Male golfers who have won 2 or more Major Championships in one year}} and {{ Female golfers who have won two or more Major Championships in one year}}. These simply duplicate the information in Men's major golf championships#Multiple majors victories in a calendar year and Women's major golf championships#Multiple majors in a calendar year. Following this approach would lead to a navbox for every golf record there is. The same could be argued for eg {{ Men's Career Grand Slam Champion Golfers}}. Nigej ( talk) 09:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm talking here about pages named "NNNN Name Tour" where NNNN in the year, e.g. 2014 PGA Tour (or tour pages where similar information is built into the main article eg OneAsia with redirect from 2014 OneAsia Tour). (331 of these + 14 redirects, excluding 2015 tours)
I've assessed or reassessed these individual year pages as class=start rather than class=stub (which most were) since most are of a similar standard, containing primarily a list of events/winners and a navbox at the bottom, and are not likely to be improved significantly in the near future. Quite a few pages are missing but overall the coverage is good. A few points:
1) There seems to be a certain randomness as to whether we have separate pages or built-in lists. Separate pages are used for the more important tours and for the longer standing ones.
2) For the Legends Tour we have 2 separate pages (2006, 2007) and 2 built into the main article (2012, 2013). 2014 is currently missing.
3) For the Argentinian tours we have TPG Tour (which is very out of date) plus 6 specific season pages ( 2004 Argentine Professional Golf Tour, 2005 PGA Argentina Tour, 2006 PGA Argentina Tour, 2007 TPG Tour, 2008 TPG Tour, 2009 TPG Tour). Looks like the TPG tour is still going, see http://tour.pgargentina.org.ar/tour/ (in spanish). All this needs sorting out. I've left the 6 specific season pages as stubs for now.
The tour graduates pages (like 2014 Challenge Tour graduates, 2014 European Tour Qualifying School graduates, 2014 Web.com Tour Finals graduates) are class=list (59 of these).
Nigej ( talk) 16:47, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Tracland ( talk) 12:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Excluding 2015 pages we have 351 of these pages plus an additional 31 which are built into the tour page and accessible through a redirect. (331 above was a mistake - was 348, 3 Legends Tour seasons added since) This excludes the Japan Challenge Tour. For some reason we delete old versions of the schedule, available here: ( 2010 2011 2012 2013).
Articles: 251 254a (+ 15 12a redirects)
Articles: 100 104a (+ 16 redirects)
Total: 351 358a (+ 31 28a redirects)
a Updated PGA Tour Latinoamerica on 10 January 2014 into 3 separate pages as per above discussion Tracland ( talk) 23:40, 10 January 2015 (UTC), + 4 Legends Tour Nigej ( talk) 10:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Created: Champions Tour, European Seniors Tour, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, LPGA Tour, LPGA of Japan Tour, Ladies European Tour, Legends Tour, PGA Tour, PGA Tour of Australasia, Sunshine Tour
Missing (for tours that have 2014 pages): Asian Tour, Challenge Tour, Korean Tour, LPGA of Korea Tour, PGA Tour Canada, Symetra Tour, Web.com Tour
Query for the interested about the contents of Template:Footer MensMajors. This navbox, which has been stable for years, was recently edited to remove some tournaments that are considered semi-major in certain contexts around the world (namely the outright removal of the link to Triple Crown (golf) and the two semi-majors (the South African Open and Canadian Open) that are included in definitions of that term. Also removed was the Players Championship, often called the "fifth major", at least in US PGA Tour contexts. These were not part of the section of current majors, which is the first and most prominent part, but under a section called "related" (which isn't exactly a great name). So the two fold question is this: First, should they be listed in this template at all? Secondly, if they are, what should be the section name? oknazevad ( talk) 02:44, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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Harej ( talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I have put on info box on the Challenge Tour page to be consistent with other tour pages and as per the discussion above but do not have an image of the tour logo to use. Could someone put up an image in the info box.
Thanks Tracland ( talk) 10:37, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Noticed that the European Tour page is also missing the logo from its page, would appreciate it if someone could put this up too. Tracland ( talk) 10:40, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
We are missing 2 women's tours completely: China Ladies Professional Golf Association Tour (aka: China LPGA Tour/ CLPGA Tour) and the Ladies European Access Series (aka: Ladies European Tour Access Series/ LET Access Series/ LETAS). Both get WWGR points. Nigej ( talk) 12:36, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
I have developed the following formula for results tables on tournament articles.
Year | Champion | Country | Course (if necessary) |
Location (if necessary) |
Score | To par | Margin of victory |
Runner(s)-up | Winner's share ($) (if necessary) |
Purse ($) (if necessary) |
Ref |
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2015 | Glen Abbey Golf Course | Oakville, Ontario | 1,044,000 | 5,800,000 | |||||||
2014 | Winner's name (2) | ![]() |
Name of course | Location | 263 | −17 | 1 stroke |
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1,026,000 | 5,700,000 | |
2013 | Winner's name | ![]() |
Name of course | Location | 265 | −15 | Playoff |
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1,008,000 | 5,600,000 |
Please let me know what you think. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 16:51, 28 January 2015 (UTC)