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Have members of this project reached an agreement on the naming convention for articles? I noticed (looking in Category:Communes of Puy-de-Dôme) that 4 out of 23 are named Commune_name, Puy-de-Dôme, which probably is a nice and sustainable format, but not widely used. I just started Saint-Étienne-sur-Usson and would have named it Saint-Étienne-sur-Usson, Puy-de-Dôme if I'd found a directive to do so on this WikiProject. Anyone know what's agreed here? — Донама 15:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
All of the other language wikipedias I've been to for a commune I just started editing (and moved) had the format Commune (Department). I moved the Commune I'm editing before discovering this WikiProject. I'll leave it the way I changed it too (as this doesn't break any links), and maintains cross-pedia consistency. -- Formerly the IP-Address 24.22.227.53 ( talk) 00:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I notice that communes are currently located in "Communes of D", and those categories tend to belong to the categories "Cities, towns and villages in France" and "D" (and possibly a "Towns in R") where D is the department and R is the region. See Category:Communes of Morbihan for an example.
I'd like to suggest that we formalise this structure, and also add these categories to Category:French Communes by Département, moving all the "Communes of D" type articles to that article, and leaving only "Towns in R" in the "Cities, towns and villages in France".
We should also attempt to define some distinction between a town and a commune. I believe that "commune" is really only useful as an administrative structure, and that we should be using "town" and "city" wherever possible, to make it accessible to non-French people.
Comments please. Stevage 10:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I was certainly vague.
Suggestion 1:
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France (suggest renaming to "of France")
Suggestion 2 (unrelated to above):
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France (suggest renaming to "of France")
Suggestion 3 (compatible with above):
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France
Suggestion 4 (replacing 2 and 3, and integrating 1)
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France
The disadvantage with 4 is that the category page for departmental prefectures would not show regional prefectures directly - you'd have to go into the subpage. It's more of a limitation of the way categories work in the MediaWiki software.
One last refinement, suggestion 5:
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France
Ok, I have created a {{ template:Préfectures of régions of France}} and added it to all the relevant préfecture articles.
How would people feel about doing something similar for préfectures of départements for each region? In other words, creating navigational boxes as follows:
I have now created the first of these as follows:
It's implemented in the respective articles. Comments welcome! Stevage 13:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
And now, based on a common parent {{ Template:Préfectures of départements}}: Stevage 08:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 17:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
A proposal has been made for the above WikiProject at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#France. STTW (talk) 20:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I notice that categorisation of communes is at départment level, and no lower, but some of these categories are becoming rather large (see Calvados, for example). What would people think about categorising by arrondissement? Alai 06:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
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Have members of this project reached an agreement on the naming convention for articles? I noticed (looking in Category:Communes of Puy-de-Dôme) that 4 out of 23 are named Commune_name, Puy-de-Dôme, which probably is a nice and sustainable format, but not widely used. I just started Saint-Étienne-sur-Usson and would have named it Saint-Étienne-sur-Usson, Puy-de-Dôme if I'd found a directive to do so on this WikiProject. Anyone know what's agreed here? — Донама 15:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
All of the other language wikipedias I've been to for a commune I just started editing (and moved) had the format Commune (Department). I moved the Commune I'm editing before discovering this WikiProject. I'll leave it the way I changed it too (as this doesn't break any links), and maintains cross-pedia consistency. -- Formerly the IP-Address 24.22.227.53 ( talk) 00:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I notice that communes are currently located in "Communes of D", and those categories tend to belong to the categories "Cities, towns and villages in France" and "D" (and possibly a "Towns in R") where D is the department and R is the region. See Category:Communes of Morbihan for an example.
I'd like to suggest that we formalise this structure, and also add these categories to Category:French Communes by Département, moving all the "Communes of D" type articles to that article, and leaving only "Towns in R" in the "Cities, towns and villages in France".
We should also attempt to define some distinction between a town and a commune. I believe that "commune" is really only useful as an administrative structure, and that we should be using "town" and "city" wherever possible, to make it accessible to non-French people.
Comments please. Stevage 10:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I was certainly vague.
Suggestion 1:
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France (suggest renaming to "of France")
Suggestion 2 (unrelated to above):
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France (suggest renaming to "of France")
Suggestion 3 (compatible with above):
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France
Suggestion 4 (replacing 2 and 3, and integrating 1)
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France
The disadvantage with 4 is that the category page for departmental prefectures would not show regional prefectures directly - you'd have to go into the subpage. It's more of a limitation of the way categories work in the MediaWiki software.
One last refinement, suggestion 5:
Category:Cities, towns and villages in France
Ok, I have created a {{ template:Préfectures of régions of France}} and added it to all the relevant préfecture articles.
How would people feel about doing something similar for préfectures of départements for each region? In other words, creating navigational boxes as follows:
I have now created the first of these as follows:
It's implemented in the respective articles. Comments welcome! Stevage 13:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
And now, based on a common parent {{ Template:Préfectures of départements}}: Stevage 08:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 17:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
A proposal has been made for the above WikiProject at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#France. STTW (talk) 20:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I notice that categorisation of communes is at départment level, and no lower, but some of these categories are becoming rather large (see Calvados, for example). What would people think about categorising by arrondissement? Alai 06:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)