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Please can somebody have a word with @ DrunkenGerman: regarding the Francky Sembolo article, they are displaying severe WP:OWNERSHIP issues by blindly reverting me when I try and bring the article in-line with the MOS. Their reversions are so blind they even undo an edit which (in part) agrees with their own comments regarding WP:KARLSRUHER. I have tried to apply WP:BRD but it's hard when they ignore the D and just start the R again, and if I don't pass it off to somebody else I am going to say something I will probably regret... Giant Snowman 20:35, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Some users (i.e. this IP) insist on include the 2007 UEFA Intertoto Cup between the titles won by the club here, here and here. It is false for 4 reasons:
Please, control these articles, thank you.-- Dantetheperuvian ( talk) 21:29, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Go check the UEFA.com at Atléti profile in the same link you provided at point (3).
Its very clear mentioned under the background photo.
Intertoto cup: 2007, (2004).
Also The intertoto cup history at UEFA.com clearly mentioned that there are 11 winners in 2007 and one of them is Atléti.
Here is the source:
http://en.archive.uefa.com/Competitions/IntertotoCup/index.html Regards.— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
95.187.207.51 (
talk)
18:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
@ 95.187.207.51: Did you read what Dantetheperuvian wrote up here? The only winner is the one who goes further in the UEFA Cup, which in that year was Hamburg. MYS 77 ✉ 19:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Please check the Intertoto Cup history link at UEFA.com that has been provided in my earlier response before you replay. 95.187.207.51 ( talk) 19:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for understanding the point Koppapa. 95.187.207.51 ( talk) 21:45, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
As per competition's regulation, the clause should be VERBATIM. Article 4 Trophies 4.01 The CLUBS which qualify for the second qualifying round of the UEFA Cup and which subsequently go furthest in this competition EACH RECEIVE a UEFA Intertoto Cup trophy. 5.246.112.107 ( talk) 06:46, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
^^ Thanks for this addition. So the reasons (1) & (3) approved as wrong. Plus the UEFA Intertoto winners link provided earlier. The matter is responded. 95.187.146.197 ( talk) 08:34, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Why are Atletico Madrid only being discussed here? What about all the other side winners from 2006-2008? Like Napoli and Sampdoira. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.S.C._Napoli#National_titles Napoli for example don't count their side winner IC title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.120.119 ( talk) 19:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
It was more in reply to the people who were editing the LIST OF UEFA COMPETITION WINNERS page, but only amending Atletico's total, and not the other side winners of that era like Napoli and Sampdoria etc.. And also, they have not included new rows for clubs like Tabol, who were also side winners from those years.
Why were people like SLBedit (a Benfica fan) only amending Atletico's total and not giving everyone their new totals? Obviously i understand the main guy's reason for editing, because he is a Atletico fan, but i don't get SLBedit's strange participation in this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.120.119 ( talk) 20:12, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I don't know how to sign posts, and just use logic in your edits ok? How about you add all the side winners of the IC between 2006-2008 or none? Simple as that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.104.189 ( talk) 20:28, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Grateful for any input to discussion here Mooretwin ( talk) 21:07, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
List of top association football goal scorers by country is poorly referenced since 2008. SLBedit ( talk) 12:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Could somebody please take a look at David Silva. User adding Assists.. Discussed here many times before. JMHamo ( talk) 11:17, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
I put the "1953" flag where relevant throughout the football articles (unless I've missed something), because, in my opinion, there is sufficient evidence for it being the "correct" one. But I did not put the "1807" flag anywhere, leaving the current flag instead, because I think evidence is in favour of the current one (the "1807" flag isn't even mentioned in Flag of Wales). Further comments are welcome, and if consensus is reached for another change, I shall make it. -- Theurgist ( talk) 18:53, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Hey guys. I've been covering the Kenyan Premier League crisis on the 2015 in Kenyan football article and the information's started to become quite a lot (I'm still editing the article as I type this message). In a nutshell the section is about a power struggle that the Football Kenya Federation and the Kenyan Premier League have engaged themselves in for control of the top tier of the Kenyan football league system. I was thinking about creating a separate article to cover this (the crisis doesn't look like it's going to end anytime soon) but I came here to ask first because I've never heard of or seen any other article of this kind on Wikipedia before.
Is the crisis notable enough to have its own article or should coverage just continue on 2015 in Kenyan football? It's attracted intervention from FIFA and the Kenyan Ministry of Sports, Culture and the Arts as well, although I haven't seen any coverage from any international media houses or comments/recommendations from other football associations and leagues. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 18:34, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Is Average attendances of La Liga clubs needed? It's a WP:NOTSTATS violation?
Derek Foran made start yesterday (and got a yellow card) for Sacramento Republic FC of the United Soccer League listed as fully professional in WP:FPL. See [1]. It was nominated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek Foran back in 2008 by User:Number 57 on the basis that "he has never played in a fully-pro league" which he now has. Normally I'd contact the closing Admin however they haven't been active in over 6 years. I did list it at WP:REFUND#Derek Foran yesterday, but I should have probably have just listed it here instead. Can an Admin please undelete this before someone recreates it unnecessarily? Thanks, Nfitz ( talk) 15:54, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
I propose addition of "Collapsible Collapsed" in the WikiTables giving information of International Goals of Players with more than 30 International goals. Seriously who on the Earth would want to know if David Villa scored against Liechtenstein on 6 September 2011, or if Fernando Torres scored against Macedonia on 12 August 2009. Sybest 7 7 Talk to Me / Contributions 18:00, 17 March 2015 (UTC) Please list your opinions below. Sybest 7 7 Talk to Me / Contributions 23:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
All I want to do is to add "Collapsible Collapsed" option so that wikipedians who want to see other things aren't disturbed by this. If the changes come in effect the table would look like this -
Sybest 7 7 Talk to Me / Contributions 11:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
What should be the correct way of putting FIFA nationality for players form the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man?
It is my understanding that players should have the flags of their FIFA nationality which for the Channel Island and Isle of Man there is no FIFA nationality as there are no FIFA recognised teams but people born there can play for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland although the islands themselves are under the jurisdiction of The FA (England). I therefore feel that players born in the CI and IOM should have England flags next to their names in club articles unless they have chosen to represent another team. What does everyone else feel? C. 22468 Talk to me 18:26, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
There is nothing to stop someone from the Channel Islands of IOM playing for Wales but England is the most obvious FIFA Nationality when there is no clear FIFA Nationality, this is not unique to the CI and IOM for example if someone was born in Northern Ireland to Scottish parents what would their FIFA Nationality be? I therefore think the best answer is the following "For players born in the Crown dependences their FIFA Nationality is England unless their reason to suggest otherwise" with the reasons to suggest otherwise being things such as playing for a youth team that isn't England, being selected for a national team that isn't England or the player themselves has expressed an interest in playing for a national team that isn't England. C. 22468 Talk to me 20:43, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Both articles are poorly referenced but as far as I can see FC KooTeePee and Kotkan Työväen Palloilijat are the same club? Giant Snowman 19:43, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Dear football experts: Can someone please tell me if Iceland's Throttur FC is a professional football team, whose members should have a Wikipedia article? I ask because Matt Elaison was just deleted. ( http://www.tablesleague.com/teams/throttur_r/matt_eliason/) — Anne Delong ( talk) 13:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
Just wanted to inform about an AfD for the article created after last night event in European qualifying. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Montenegro v Russia (UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying). QED237 (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
A recently created article, Montenegro v Russia (UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying), a match played yesterday, was marked as patrolled and fixed by me. Anyway, I've tagged it with {{ Notability}} because, differently from Serbia v Albania article, I'm not so sure about its relevance. I prefer not to open a procedure for deletion, because I think it can also decide here whether the page is relevant or not. Regards. -- Dэя- Бøяg 07:46, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
An editor has consistently piped Inter Milan to Internazionale and now created Football Club Internazionale Milano (F.C. Internazionale Milano), which is a direct copy of Inter Milan with motivation The original article has become corrupted and no explanation was given as to why the name was changed via consensus voting! and he is clearly not happy with article naming. Advice would be appreciated. Thanky you. QED237 (talk) 14:23, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
@ GiantSnowman: You often have good knowledge of this things as an admin. QED237 (talk) 14:25, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
After the previous FAC was closed prematurely, I've opened a new FAC for the 2008 UEFA Champions League Final article. I'd appreciate as many comments as possible, as I'm hoping this article could set a new standard for what constitutes a Featured football match article here. – Pee Jay 17:45, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Could any admins about please move Sok Chanraksmey (footballer) to Sok Chanraksmey? The disambiguation is not necessary but the proper title for the page has been salted due to sockpuppetry. Thank you. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 20:17, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
A user that User:Kante4 and myself has had some discussions with in the past has created the article 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup Match officials which neither of us thinks should have been created. It is the same as the section 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup#Match officials (a list of referees) and there is no need for an extra article. What to do? CSD? PROD? AfD?. Any help is appreciated. QED237 (talk) 11:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Please comment at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Disambiguation by position. DrKiernan ( talk) 07:24, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Is the action of kicking in relation to our beautiful game actually deserving of its own article? The article itself seems more akin to a medical text than an encyclopaedic work! – Pee Jay 20:03, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
I need advice. A week or two ago I deleted articles at AFD about Bryan Ciesiulka and Jacob Bushue, because the consensus was they did not meet the standards of WP:NFOOTBALL. I have now been told, here, that both are now playing for the Saint Louis FC and that this makes them notable. I don't know enough about football/soccer to know if playing for the Saint Louis FC qualifies a person for an article. Advice please? Thanks. -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Gentlemen. I have noticed that one of the recent edits to Template:Football box collapsible resulted in displaying a bold matchdate for a single match, or a second match of two-legged pair, but not for a first match of the series. I guess it has something to do with using ''' characters to unbold eliminated team. Can anyone who has wikicoding skills fix this? (I think this affects lots of current pages) - BlameRuiner ( talk) 16:04, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Category:Articles lacking sources from October 2006 are the oldest unreferenced articles in Wikipedia. A large pool of them are football teams and stadiums. Do people here have sources that could be used to add refs to them? Would someone want to make sure that all of the articles on minor teams and stadiums belong in the encyclopedia? - SimonP ( talk) 17:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Since a while ago, {{
fb|BIH}}
has been defaulting to
Bosnia-Herzegovina rather than
Bosnia and Herzegovina. Why? "
Bosnia and Herzegovina" is the proper and common name for the country. That's how the association is labelled at
FIFA.com and
UEFA.com. There do exist a few other values of
{{
fb}}
which default to versions containing the conjunction "and" (like {{
fb|TRI}}
,
Trinidad and Tobago). --
Theurgist (
talk)
09:50, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Could someone please assist in this matter? According to NFT.com, this player has 147 caps (plus one unofficial appearance), and if you visit his RSSSF entry, it'll say he has 149, but three of those caps are only viewed as official by the Iranian FA, thus I imagine not by FIFA. Today, after featuring against Chile on 26 March (still not available at RSSSF), he is celebrating his 148th against Sweden according to FIFA.
In spite of this, his total is changed again, again and again, without one word in summary or the article's page. I have looked for advice on how to handle this elsewhere, but still have received no feedback.
Attentively -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 18:11, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Is there any guidelines about what to name an article about a defunct club that had more than one name? Should the article be under, for example, the last name by which the club was known? Or the name by which it was known for longest? The particular club I have in mind is the Irish team that began life as Albert Rovers, then became Cork Alberts and finished as Cork United. (For most of its existence it was called Albert Rovers.) Mooretwin ( talk) 14:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi there,
To me, the WP:GNG explanation is not that "understandable". How can I be sure that somebody who fails WP:FOOTY can be created through WP:GNG?
For an example: Aarón Fernández Sorroche. The guy never played in a fully professional league but another user removed my PROD by saying he's notable through GNG, and added a reference (which cites he's not professional) from El Norte de Castilla.
Example #2: Miguel Cardoso. He appears in almost all major Portuguese websites ( Record, Mais Futebol, Sapo and O Jogo) and also in Marca and Mundo Deportivo, but never played any fully pro matches. He's notable or not?
Cheers, MYS 77 ✉ 19:45, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
What are people's opinions about {{ Millwall F.C. Hall of Fame}} and Category:Millwall F.C. Hall of Fame inductees? Giant Snowman 17:25, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I'm thinking for something and I need your help. You know the Kosovo national football team's case of being not full recognized by FIFA and UEFA, but it's permitted to play international friendlies with the FIFA members since 2014.
The question is, should we count the Kosovo's matches which were played before being permitted by UEFA and FIFA (before 2014) as a cap for their players who participated in all matches also the opponent players even? For example one of the "big" website for national football teams, the national-football-teams.com count the match Kosovo-Albania in 2002 and award caps to both sides players. Such as this match, another one was played between the same countys in 2010 but it's not published at the National-football-teams.com, but can I use this source to add caps to respective players who played in this match. I also have the list of called up players for both national teams ( see here). Thank you Eni.Sukthi.Durres ( talk) 19:34, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
On Chakib Hocine's article, User:Mikemor92 keeps removing information I put in the infobox because "reserve league stats are a no-no" and then goes and replaces them with U23 stats. Is there any consensus on which should stats should be included? I personally don't see U23 as relevant, especially considering that it's in the PDL, a non-notable league. I don't want to revert his changes again and violate 3RR, so it would be appreciated if someone can jump in and provide some info. TonyStarks ( talk) 19:54, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
WP:FPL is in serious need of updating and contributors. Any input very much welcome Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues Abcmaxx ( talk) 14:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Apparently there is a conflict of interest at this page over what I guess is the fixtures and results because when I redid the page the only major removal I made was the fixtures and results but only because there are 14 rounds and this league, unlike past editions, is being organized as an actual league, just with a neutral venue. Cheers. -- ArsenalFan700 ( talk) 04:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello all. I have just run a catscan, which shows that over 18,000 Wikipedia articles connected to football are lacking the {{WikiProject Football}} banner. This is important to the project as tagged pages automatically show when they are listed for deletion or Good Article status, for example. I have just added around 100 banners, but there are plenty left, so if you have the time and inclination, get cracking! Thanks, C 679 18:30, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there a good alternative to soccerway for player statistics (club)? Soccerway is a good resource, but it does not show more than 8-10 last seasons on player info page... -- XXN, 20:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Soccerway is considered reliable for league/Cup games - but not international games. Playerhistory is still down and is likely to be so for a long time. Giant Snowman 15:43, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, if I use this as a reference, then in the title as here, {{cite web |title=xx|url=xx|date=4 April 2015|publisher=xx|accessdate=6 April 2015}} should I write Soccerway profile or the name of the player in the format "Common name:Full name", which is in this case "Miguel Angelo:Miguel Angelo Ferreira de Castro"? RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি ( talk) 17:43, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
|title=
as "title of source page on website". So in your example, you'd put what appears at the top of the page, which is "Miguel Angelo".This article had an unsourced claim about "Longest range free kick: Maynor Figueroa" being 88 yards for many months, from a quick look at the history. I don't see any mention at Maynor Figueroa. An IP has recently tried to change that to 60 yards, but has broken the template. There is a claim on the talk page about the value. Would someone please sort it out, or just remove the entry as unsourced if there is no verification. Johnuniq ( talk) 10:03, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
I think the trigramme parameter of the national team infobox should be renamed. It practically prevents the trigramme from being included on the articles for Gibraltar national football team and Great Britain, for example, even though both countries have officially-assigned codes by other multinational sporting bodies recognised by FIFA and the latter's results also appear on FIFA's database. VEO one five 13:37, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I want input from football community.
I recently reverted the addition of "Form" section (The section can be seen in this diff). To me it is not notable and content that will only be true for a very short period than change so it should not be included.
Then I spotted several templates being created and modified so I want to bring it here.
1. Template for using form. They were created as fb team templates, which I thought should be removed from use to use wikilinks instead of team templates?. The templates created are:
2. Templates for infoboxes has been modified ({{ Infobox football club season}} that was later reverted by User:PeeJay2K3) and {{ Test infobox}} was created (and is now empty).
3. Also it seems like a major change was made to {{ Fb rs}} was made without testing and consensus (like trial and error with many edits).
What do you think? Some TfD or should they exist? QED237 (talk) 11:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Koppapa, GiantSnowman, PeeJay2K3, and CRwikiCA: The empty template has been put up for speedy deletion as it was blank by the only editor. The others are at TfD at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 April 10#Team form templates. Feel free to bring your comments at the TfD. QED237 (talk) 16:20, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
After a friendly difference of opinions with User:DrunkenGerman, the following note from me, lest I have forgotten past forum discussions:
in the introductions to footballer articles, we are not to write "currently", am I correct? Also, we are to write "is a footballer who plays as a X" rather than "is a football defender" to prevent overlinking, right?
Last but not least, if a player plays outside his country we are not to write leagues, only the nation. Example: " Nacho Monreal is a Spanish footballer who plays for English club Arsenal as a left back". Is this it?
Attentively, happy weekend all -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 18:52, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there any guidelines about what to name an article about a defunct club that had more than one name? Should the article be under, for example, the last name by which the club was known? Or the name by which it was known for longest? The particular club I have in mind is the Irish team that began life as Albert Rovers, then became Cork Alberts and finished as Cork United. (For most of its existence it was called Albert Rovers.) Mooretwin ( talk) 14:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Has anyone seen the squad lists in place at Yeovil Town F.C. and Port Vale F.C.? I remember us discussing a change, but I don't remember anyone agreeing it should be implemented. Should I change these back to the standard squad list? – Pee Jay 11:19, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I need help with Chilean Apertura Tournament. It is definately at the wrong name as it is 2006 part of a league? I am not sure about this league structure so need help what name it should have and if it even should exist? Also it is very poorly sourced.
It seems like Chilean Primera División is divided in two parts and Apertura is first part. Looking at other seasons 2007 Chilean Primera División season exists but not 2006.
An other issue I have is that the links in infobox points to year 2007 and not 2007 tournament.
All help appreciated. QED237 (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I recently had a difference of opinion with User:GiantSnowman, when he reverted an edit I made to the Darian MacKinnon article. What I had done was to remove details from the infobox of the various adult amateur level clubs MacKinnon has played for, on the basis that the instructions / guidelines at Template:Infobox football biography emphasise that the "clubs1" etc. parameters are for listing professional clubs the player has been with. Should we interpret this to mean all adult-level teams, or should it be restricted to professional levels? My personal definition of this would stretch to including semi-pro leagues, amateur clubs competing at pro level (e.g. Queen's Park), national levels with amateur status (e.g. Scottish League pre-1893) etc. but not what are basically "public park" level amateur clubs. Whilst relevant information should, of course, be included in the article body where available, I think its inclusion in the infobox is distracting and in many cases it will be difficult to source the relevant facts such as years, appearances and goals that would, ideally, appear along with team names. The MacKinnon example is a particularly obvious one, although I concede that few notable players will have such a long list of clubs at this level as he does. I think it would be useful, however, if we could get some sort of consensus on the issue. Off the top of my head, other articles to which this is relevant would include Paul Sturrock and Colin Cameron (footballer); at present neither of these include amateur clubs in their infoboxes. Jellyman ( talk) 09:32, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Best title for this new top level women's league Super League, replacing the BeNe League as highest league. Belgian Women's First Division will stay the second level league. (Belgium), (women), ? - Koppapa ( talk) 11:51, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Views on this article welcome, I have been reverted for removing commentary-like content ("He played in this game, he scored a goal in that game etc.") and further input would be appreciated. Giant Snowman 13:36, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
There is a template talk page discussion regarding the graphics used for medalists in infobox medals tables occurring at Template talk:Medal#Changing from gold/silver/bronze to 1/2/3. As this discussion is within the scope of WP:Football, you are invited to make your comments on the recent graphics changes there. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 15:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Someone has added a tournament style bracket to the 2015 CAF Champions League qualifying rounds article. Is it really necessary for qualifiers? I've never seen qualifying rounds represented this way and in my opinion it doesn't make sense. Brackets are used for tournaments where you're headed to a final, not for qualifiers. I didn't want to just go ahead and remove it without discussing it with others but I'm pretty sure that it's not necessary. TonyStarks ( talk) 21:39, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
I find it strange that:
What makes the first derby "derby I" or the third "derby III", or the other way round?
I think either merge the pages into Tirana derby, or rename "derby I" and "derby II" to "KF Tirana-Partizani Tirana rivalry" and "Dinamo Tirana-KF Tirana rivalry", respectively Abcmaxx ( talk) 21:56, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
I am not a football expert and don't know which sources are reliable for footballer bios, so I hope someone here can help disentangle what seems to be a muddle. I came across the redirect Asomon Kenet while sorting out a dab page at Kenet. It redirects to Kennedy Boateng, which shows his middle name as "Asamoah" but doesn't mention the "Kenet".
There's another redirect, from Kenneth Asamoah to Kennedy B.
Looking at the history of that KA redirect: [ [3]]
But the article here: http://uk.soccerway.com/players/asomon-kenet/64552/ lists Asomon Kenet with date of birth 12 April 1988, not the same as the 30 November 1989 given for Kennedy B in his Wikipedia article. Soccerway also has a separate article http://uk.soccerway.com/players/kennedy-boateng/286921/ (which gives his date of birth as 1 August 1992). And http://uk.soccerway.com/players/kenneth-asamoah/90379/ (date of birth 1 August 1988).
So have we got one or two or three footballers here, and which of the four dates of birth is or are right? Is Soccerway reliable? Have fun. Pam D 15:52, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Any Uruguayan users out there (preferably)? Can we get this person's infobox complete? At least ZEROZERO.pt says he played for Peñarol before arriving in Spain, but the site is not very reliable because it's user-generated.
Attentively, thanks in advance -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 20:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I've had a user revert an edit that I've done on the Major League Soccer season's table. I'd initially placed on the overall season's table the qualifiers for the end of season MLS Cup Playoff Series. This conforms to what is used in the season tables for the A-League (showing the Finals series teams) and also the ASB Premiership. The user that reverted this edit claimed that he had done so, as the MLS Cup spots are determined by position in the Western/Eastern Conference, and shouldn't be included on the overall table. I feel that if this were truly the case, that the winners of National Cup competitions wouldn't be shown on their league tables as having qualified for their subsequent tournaments. I feel as though showing the MLS Cup qualifiers on the overall league table if anything makes more sense than showing the winners of the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup winner's Champions League spot... Am I missing something, or shouldn't all major tournaments such as these have their qualifiers shown on the overall league table?... Thoughts? - J man708 ( talk) 02:36, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Firstly, thank you for taking the time out to discuss this with me. I appreciate it. Secondly and rather comically, those diagrams you showed I genuinely do believe that both pieces of information could be merged into one, provided it were to be done correctly. But I do see your point about it appearing a bit shambolic. I will agree with you that it does appear to be that way at the moment, however the further the season goes, the wider the overall gap will be between the haves and have-nots of each conference and will be very unlikely that we will find a block of three MLS Cup teams so far outside of the Top 12, as is currently the case. I'm curious as to why you've only reverted the edits on the 2015 page and not the previous seasons, which have also been edited to show the MLS spots? If you are to delete the MLS Cup spots for the interim, could you at least replace the Champions League positions, as that too is something that every league in the world has listed on their pages. I understand that they're reliant on the conference winners, but it's pretty set in stone that you have to be the top team to win it (unless you're Canadian). That's sorta the issue now, is that there is a Canadian team atop the standings, which throws this out of whack. A similar issue has occured in the A-League this season, wherein the Wellington Phoenix (from New Zealand) were sitting in an Asian Champions League spot, despite being ineligable as they're from Oceania. This was the end result, that everyone seemed happy with. A similar set up surely should be utilised for the MLS. Outside of the conference system, the A-League is almost identical to the MLS (being franchise based, salary caps, etc.)... When you mentioned earlier that I should've brought it up for a discussion, I kinda feel like I already have and that we're talking in the place wherein the discussion is taking place. For me, this is an issue that had already been decided upon globally and thus, negated the need to bring up on the individual talk page. - J man708 ( talk) 23:43, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
I was reviewing a picture I took of a moat at Estádio Olímpico João Havelange.. I was expecting to find an article about Hooliganism mentioning moats as a safety measure (where I could add the picture). Researching, I found there was a large moat at the previous incarnation of Maracanã Stadium, at Estadio Azteca and the specialized construction at The Float at Marina Bay. On-line blogs say moats were common in European stadiums in the 1970's. I must admit I'm not fanatical about the sport of football, so I don't know too much of the history There doesn't seem to be any discussion or mention of moats here. If those major stadiums have gone through the effort to build moats, or they were later removed, I would think it would be more common, thus an article on the subject would be appropriate. Maybe I'm ill informed. I'm certainly not the right person to write about it, maybe someone in this project would be. Trackinfo ( talk) 19:12, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
...fancy semi-protecting Trevor Benjamin? Hilarious vandalism of the day appears to be to change his middle name to "Goal Machine"... It's been at RFPP for some time but nothing's happened yet. thanks in advance, Struway2 ( talk) 17:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed this article was sorted on Baiano so I renamed the article to Baiano (football player). I have now found Dermival Almeida Lima who is also known as Baiano, so its a bit of a pickle, can someone fix, (including getting Defaultsorts to match the article names ? Sorry for acting in haste by renaming... Thanks GrahamHardy ( talk) 13:09, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi everyone.
There is a league table dispute at Template:2015 Allsvenskan table making it full protected, which is not good with matches today and upcoming days, so please join discussion at Template talk:2015 Allsvenskan table#Table position. Thank you. QED237 (talk) 09:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Could an Admin please block Johndrew elaine ( talk · contribs) for mass disruptive editing. Thanks, JMHamo ( talk) 15:58, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I would like to know if a player becomes notable if they have played in a continental competition, e.g. Champions League, Europa League, etc., but havent played in any domestic/professional league? Cheers! MbahGondrong ( talk) 11:22, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Can someone, after a quick glance at this person's PERSONAL LIFE section, deem the info that appears therein vandalism? I have had this section removed three times, having my efforts called vandalic and receiving absolutely no other forms of feedback from the other party. My two cents? A ETA fanboy, nothing more, nothing less!
I do appreciate sincerity, so please do tell if you think the aforementioned section is not encyclopedical (methinks it is, his father got 30 YEARS, and it affected the son's career in a negative way), remove it and we all can live happily ever after without this nuisance. The crowning turd in the waterpipe? He removes the section and has no summary note attached to his edit, I revert him and receive a "possible BLP issue or vandalism" tag. Yes, my summaries, always my summaries (but this one was merely hysterical, nothing else - and by the way, I think it's a mere technical glitch when a bot "calls" you a potential vandal, but I'm not having that from other users, would you? Thought not), I apologize to the community again, all I can do.
Attentively -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 22:16, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi football people,
At 2014–15 Liga I there is a dispute wheter or not to display note for dinamo bucharest about the fact the can not get one of the places to european competition because they filed for insolvency. To me it is notable because the readers can see what teams can get the CL and EL spots and when teams switch places it is also good for the updating editor to see what teams can not get the CL and EL places in the table. The other editor dont think it is notable to note in table. What is your opinion? QED237 (talk) 14:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Also we have it for some teams so why not dinamo? QED237 (talk) 14:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
For now, Dinamo isn't on a European spot. So that note is completely useless. When Dinamo will ocupy a European spot, the note will have to be used to explain why they can't qualify. It is the case with Petrolul and CS Universitatea Craiova. Eddie Nixon ( talk) 16:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
I know this is not encyclopedical (at all), but I'd like to offer some comic relief to the footy community, ever so stressed out :) Yesterday, at half-time of the La Liga fixture between Athletic Bilbao and Real Sociedad, someone was on the pitch being honoured with an award (later I found out it was the ONE-MAN CLUB AWARD, for players that have spent their whole career in the same club), and I said to myself "I know this guy". After five seconds, light was made, I recognized Matthew Le Tissier, with his crooked tooth on the left side and his "overall good bloke" smile.
Part one...part two: the broadcaster from Sport TV made the following comment: "And there you go, a former legend of this club (by "this" he meant Athletic Bilbao!) being honoured". I didn't want to be a buzzkill to all the Saints fans out there, but here is the truth, Matty is far from being a saint, he's a downright lion!
You guys continue to have fun out there, improving those articles, keep it up from Portugal -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 17:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks! A true genius of football, and he did well choosing family and stability over money, I suppose player of his (immense) caliber must have have had tons of offers in his prime. And not only the mad skills, he shot the ball with tremendous power as well. A real Bilbao (sorry, So'ton) legend :) -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 18:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Im asking here as the main club article template doesn't really cover it. The Heart of Midlothian F.C. article Honours section is split into minor and major honours, should it be done like this and if so what constitutes major and minor. Currently the Scottish premiership is listed as minor, however leagues such as the second tier the Scottish Championship or East of Scotland are minor. Is major and minor not too open for debate, without proper inclusion guidelines. Whats everyones thoughts on this? The section has been organised in different ways but this is how its been for a wee whilst. Blethering Scot 16:57, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello, could people please watch Jacob Mellis, LawrenceBarnard11 ( talk · contribs) is removing the Controversy section, so I think he's some way related to the player. I suspect it may be a sock of blocked Mmanagementltd ( talk · contribs) but I cannot say for definite. Thanks, JMHamo ( talk) 14:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there an Admin about to deal with 114.124.32.229 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) before they request updated photos for the entire Manchester United squad? JMHamo ( talk) 09:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
This FAC has only had three responses so far, and none from any established members of this community. Any chance a few of you could throw a glance over it and let me know what you think? I'm certain it's a hair's breadth away from reaching FA status, but it's going to fail automatically if it doesn't get at least two more responses in the next few days. – Pee Jay 23:25, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Is in a bit of a dispute with DrunkenGerman regarding the style of TSG 1899 Hoffenheim squad list, i see now purpose or improvment of the article by the breakers he have added and considers it breaks the Club manual of style (subjective i know), decided to seek a consensus before it grows to unecasary proportions. Halmstad ( talk) 19:39, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Please take a look at José Mourinho#Controversies, tagged since June 2013. SLBedit ( talk) 21:14, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi all
I recently performed a move closure on Talk:Paul Hunter (American soccer), which was a clear consensus for move, but without a clear consensus on where to move to. I'd like to see if we can get some definitive clarification on whether the disambiguator "American soccer" or "Canadian soccer" is preferable. Please could as many of you guys as possible go there to give your opinion. Thanks — Amakuru ( talk) 15:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
RE: The above convo, it's better to start again to save other readers the headache of having to make sense of the above convo. I've come across an issue when rolling out changes to the MLS league tables for the last few seasons. Being a league with a post-season playoff series (called the MLS Cup), the MLS allows 12 teams to qualify via finishing in the Top 6 of their respective Western/Eastern Conferences. This can lead to Team A making the playoffs, Team B failing to make it, but Team A finishing on the Overall Combined Table ahead of Team B. The issue at hand here is whether or not these teams should be listed on the Overall Combined Table as MLS Cup qualifiers ( as seen here), or not shown ( as seen here). - J man708 ( talk) 05:40, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Conference tables should be used as this is the method how they qualify for the playoffs. Kante4 ( talk) 08:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
After the demise of Salisbury City F.C., a new club has been formed called Salisbury F.C. and is likely to join the Wessex League next season. Assuming this club merits a new article and not a continuation of the City article, I was wondering what to call it. Salisbury City were originally called Salisbury F.C. (until 1993) and Salisbury F.C. is currently a redirect to the City article. Should it be "Salisbury F.C. (2014)" or something along those lines? Bretonbanquet ( talk) 10:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi, people. Looking to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/League_season#Table formatting I can see the color for the qualification to promotion playoffs in lower divisions is yellow but we are using blue like in 2014–15 Football League Championship or 2014–15 Segunda División.
I want also to ask you how must be coloured a table where there are several stages in a promotion playoff but not a direct promotion, like in 2014–15 Segunda División B?
And last, where can I see the RGB codes of the colours used in these tables? Thank you! Asturkian ( talk) 11:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Level | Green | Blue | Yellow | Red | Black |
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Level 1 | BBF3BB | BBF3FF | FFFFBB | FFBBBB | BBBBBB |
Level 2 | CCF9CC | CCF9FF | FFFFCC | FFCCCC | CCCCCC |
Level 3 | DDFCDD | DDFCFF | FFFFDD | FFDDDD | DDDDDD |
Level 4 | EEFFEE | EEFFFF | FFFFEE | FFEEEE | EEEEEE |
White | White | White | White | White | White |
You can see the format
here. The four group champions join a special playoff where the two winners promote and the two losers are dropped to the "normal playoff" with the rest of the qualified teams for two more spots. Copa del Rey qualification is for the top five non-reserve teams of each group and two more places. I hope I explained it well.
Asturkian (
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15:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Initially I suspected it could be User:Zombie, however this one is based in the United States. I found at least two cases of this IP adding unsourced stats, Ladule Lako LoSarah and Lamin Samateh. Just wanting to call the attention of the community about this. FkpCascais ( talk) 22:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
If somebody is interested, I have a list of players, which hasn't article here at English Wikipedia. The link is to Russian Wikipedia and the number is iw links. Of course, some of them may not pass notability criteria, bet I think this list would be useful overally. Feel free to remove players from list if article is created or player isn't notable, make some comments there or do whatever you want :) -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 16:25, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Needs a new title for so many reasons - any suggestions? Or is the premise so flawed it would be better off being deleted anyway........? -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 10:23, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Arbitrary. POV. Delete. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC) Which is a bit of a shame, because I'd quite enjoy the inevitable ensuing argument about the English League Cup ending up at WP:LAME. Not to mention the Simod Cup and the magnificent Anglo-Italian Cup. And the Norfolk & Norwich Hospital Cup. Ooh look, a redlink. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Q If the chart was done in a non POV way (if there was such a way possible) wouldn't Rangers cake-walk it? -- Dweller ( talk) 14:24, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
{{od} Now at AFD. Giant Snowman 15:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Help needed at Jérôme Boateng, high level of vandalism after Champions League tonight. I have asked for page to be protected. QED237 (talk) 23:26, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Teammates,
I have just added a new section to Raül Agné's article (see PERSONAL LIFE). I think it is encyclopedical, but it the community does not deem it so, please remove it and sorry for any inconvenience. However, if you do deem it so, the following: in reference #14, I had to insert characters similar to WP:SHOUTING because it's the ACTUAL title of the source, and a filter perceived my actions as potential vandalism, further adding that if I clicked "save" upon being warned I could be blocked if the verdict was finally that of "guilt".
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, attentively -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 18:21, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Template:Ivory Coast national football team matches, and ten other similar football-related navboxes, have been
nominated for deletion. Because these templates are within the scope of WikiProject Football, you are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.
Dirtlawyer1 (
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02:49, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Our previous agreement was only league apps in box, right? But what happens if a team doesn't have a league to play? For an example, this year: teams like Ituano, Audax and others don't have a national league to play for, while Santos, São Paulo are playing at national levels.
My question now is: should we include the Campeonato Paulista apps and goals for these teams who don't have any national leagues ( Série A, Série B and so on) to play, or should we leave them as 0/0? If we leave the last way as pattern, everybody will see an infobox like Hernane (the guy won recognition in Brazilian football through a Campeonato Paulista, and his apps related to that year's tournament are 0/0 in box), or worse, like Rafael Longuine (represented a bunch of lowly state clubs, and it appears that he only played ten times for an Austrian club).
Cheers, MYS 77 ✉ 01:09, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi, an IP insists on using Transfermarkt as source at Burak Yılmaz, help needed. I dont want to edit war. QED237 (talk) 10:03, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
2 questions have come up in a discussion I've been having with Simione001:
1. In 2012, Australia sent their U20 side for 2013 AFC U-22 Championship qualification where most teams were U23 sides. Football Federation Australia said: "Although the upcoming tournament is for U-22 players, Football Federation Australia took the decision to field the Qantas Young Socceroos (U-20 players) in the competition as part of their preparations for the AFC U-19 Championship" ( source). Should these games count as caps for the U23 or U20 side?
2. Should matches in L'Alcúdia International Football Tournament count as youth caps, when games are between national teams, despite the presence of club teams in some editions of the tournament?
Macosal ( talk) 12:45, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
On this article ( KF Apolonia Fier) the manager is Elidon Demiri whereas it is written in 2014–15 Albanian Superliga that the manager of KF Apolonia Fier is Artan Mergjyshi. Did it change at the beginning of the season ? A.Gust14 ( talk) 11:10, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Just came across this WP:STALEDRAFT created by a blocked user and I'm not sure what to make of it. It appears to be some sort of list of team lineups in some tournament of some sort, but I can't say much more than that. I am posting about it here because I am hoping that someone who knows more about this subject could determine what this is. Everymorning talk 00:22, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Now that Carpi has been officially promoted to Serie A, I think it's a good time to re-open the discussion about the name of the article. The page was moved from Carpi F.C. 1909 to Carpi FC 1909 with the motivation "the logo has no punctuation" (see also the article's talk page), while all the articles on italian football teams and the official website of the side use it. CapPixel ( talk) 09:16, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
I opened a new move request for Carpi. CapPixel ( talk) 11:20, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Please see Sport London e Benfica F.C.. Eagle1981 is edit warring without providing a reliable source. SLBedit ( talk) 18:20, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
The person in question has continued steal the identity of the club in various social media. We have tried to politely ask him to stop doing this without result. Our club neither has the time or the resources to continually chase this person from harrassing our organisation. After several pages were removed from facebook we politely request Wikipedia to do the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eagle1981 ( talk • contribs) 11:34, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
For the second or third time, User:GiantSnowman does not allow for external links to be inserted in this player's article, even though I try my "bestest". Yes, I know, according to him (and probably several users, I'm not bashing that), it's best to cite directly, but pretty much everything is now directly cited in the piece, and the links are harmless and useful.
What costs me the most if the "usage" (or lack thereof) or the BDFUTBOL.com link. The player spent five years in Spain, the link contains cup appearances, should it be discarded in this fashion? Methinks not. I repeat, we can have both approaches blend into one (all the contents directly cited, and a couple of interesting and, I repeat, HARMLESS external links)? On a related note, FOOTBALLDATABASE.eu and NFT.com have been removed too (yes, the latter already exists in the form of a reference, but I've seen hundreds of articles where NFT was used as both a ref - mostly for stats charts - and a link and nobody touched that).
Am I missing something here, and external links are a definite no-no these days? And I don't think this is a case of WP:OWNERSHIP on my part, I am respecting GS's approach, would like to have the same done to mine and be allowed, at least, to reinstate BDFUTBOL entry as a link. Attentively -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 15:02, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
OK, four near-identical links is overkill, i'll take that one. How about just BDFUTBOL.com? If that link adds nothing to the article when the guy spent FIVE years in Spain then I rest my case, will never touch that article again, be sure of it, don't want to be a nuisance to anybody, especially now that I don't have an account. -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 15:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Struway (and thank you both for your inputs). I am going to restore BDFUTBOL, and only that one. -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 15:41, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
But his spell in Spain is already 99,999999999999% cited with REAL refs (and I can make it 100% if asked to), and the link is (for the umpteenth time) harmless, not to mention comprehensive. The way I see it, an external link is something for easy consultation (oh, this guy/gal played for this/that team, scoring this many goals and being sent off 16 times), the storyline (and the refs that (should) accompany it) is a much more comprehensive read.
I'm lost for words... And what about his youth years with Lyon, am I "allowed" to re-insert that in box? -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 19:49, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Jackichand_Singh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArsenalFan700 ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
How should we describe players who are born and raised in one country but represent another at international level? I'm having an issue with @ TonyStarks: at Riyad Mahrez but this principle applies to thousands of articles. I think we shouldn't assign a nationality at the start of the intro, but should instead go into details re:nationality further in the intro i.e. like this. On this article in particular TS is pushing his pro-Algerian POV but that is another matter... Giant Snowman 22:49, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
The current version looks like a good compromise, I hope everyone agrees. Giant Snowman 18:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I have not listed Struway2 as while he initially suggested #2 he also stated #3 was acceptable. I suspect Cliftonian would also agree with #3 given his earlier comments in the discussion. No editors other than myself, Koncorde, and TS have edited the article or indeed participated in this discussion any further since then. The only person who therefore expresses an active opposition to the current version is Tony - but why? Giant Snowman 09:54, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
An editor is making a large number of unsourced changes to articles. I am tied up in the real world and can only dip in and out here today but feel that the sooner they are stopped the less cleaning up will be needed. Britmax ( talk) 14:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Is the article National Football Teams Highest and Lowest FIFA Rankings notable? QED237 (talk) 15:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
@ CRwikiCA, PeeJay2K3, GiantSnowman, and Koppapa: Okay so AfD then? QED237 (talk) 16:46, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
@ CRwikiCA, PeeJay2K3, GiantSnowman, and Koppapa: Now at this AfD. Feel free to post your comments. QED237 (talk) 21:59, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
@ CRwikiCA, PeeJay2K3, GiantSnowman, and Koppapa: Two similar articles now at AfD here and here. It is the articles Turkish Super League Teams Ranking According to League Positions and Turkish Super League all time table. Feel free to voice your opinion. QED237 (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
For the third time (or more), User:Postcard Cathy can't seem to understant the rules of WP:MCSTJR. The subject is known as HUGO, and only HUGO. Not as Cabral. The sources ( [4], [5], [6], [7]) confirm this, and if you Google his name you'll clearly see that he's known as HUGO.
I was reverted without any explanation why, and got the same outcome why when I asked her directly.
Can someone take a look at this? Thanks, MYS 77 ✉ 19:09, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
An IP has been repeatedly adding an unsourced list of West Ham's games in Europe. I have twice reverted but it's back again despite me advising him of the lack of sources. Not only is this unsourced it is also in West Ham United F.C. in European football. Surely the unsourced duplication in the West Ham United F.C. article is unnecessary?-- Egghead06 ( talk) 16:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
FA Amateur Cup appearances in the 1930s enough to denote notability? Thoughts on Magdala Amateurs F.C. article? Cheers. Del♉sion23 (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
My mistake, I couldn't find them before but the first team are here in the relegation zone of the Nottinghamshire Senior League Division One. Notability question still stands though, are they notable? Del♉sion23 (talk) 12:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
The recent ban in third-party ownership or involve in the takeover AC Milan, would the article Doyen Group have a strong point to discuss in deletion review, or still not yet notable? Matthew_hk t c 13:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Someone created All time appearances in European Cup and UEFA Champions League after i removed it here (in article European Cup and UEFA Champions League records and statistics) because we already have a list for appearances in main round (excluding qualifications). Do we need this new article? QED237 (talk) 16:44, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
This article is now at this AfD created by User:Lukeno94. QED237 (talk) 21:52, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Template:Greater Los Angeles Sports in 1946 and similiar templates have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_18#Greater_Los_Angeles_Sports_by_year_navboxes. Thanks.— Bagumba ( talk) 19:57, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello to all of you. I was going through some pages and noticed that this french player has two pages here, with different spellings. It seems, according to his
Soccerway and
L'équipe.fr profiles, that the first one is the correct spelling. Can anyone here nominate the second page for deletion ? (Or explain to me how to do it, I'll gladly to it once I know how).
Regards,
Tuttiseme (
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14:00, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
There's a discussion currently ongoing regarding the non-free use of the "Hyundai A-League" logo in A-League, 2014-15 A-League and 2015–16 A-League at WP:NFCR#File:Hyundai A-League logo.svg. Use of non-free images is covered under WP:NFC and there are specific criteria that need to be satisfied in order to use such an image in an article. NFCR is not a file deletion discussion; It's simply to discuss whether the usage of non-free content complies with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. All interested editors are invited to comment and any additional clarification that can be provided about the logo would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly ( talk) 00:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
The American North American Soccer League has just announced that a new club called Miami FC will play in their league come 2016. There was already several links to an article/club called Miami FC which renamed itself to Fort Lauderdale Strikers in 2010. To avoid confusion, I've updated those links to the page Miami FC (2006) and amended categories on player and season articles. TheBigJagielka ( talk) 20:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Hey, any help is welcome. He isn't notable or am i wrong? Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Augusto Batalla Kante4 ( talk) 20:12, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I took a few photos while I was on a tour of Old Trafford a few years ago, but I forgot to refer back to them for use here. Some of the info on the exhibits in the museum doesn't seem to have been replicated anywhere else (such as the fact that tennis player Suzanne Lenglen played an exhibition match at Old Trafford in 1927). How valid is this as a source, and if valid, how would I go about adding a reference to it to an article? – Pee Jay 18:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Someone just added newly created F.C.S.B. to the top Romanian league table at 2014–15 Liga I instead of Steaua Bucharest, which I reverted. The article claims Steaua is defunct, but I know they got UEFA license a few days ago. Is this true or a hoax? Qed237 (talk) 15:26, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Declan Martin, a relatively new user seems to be engaged in creating nothing but relativley detailed hoax articles. I already speedied Johan Jamaza as an obvious hoax, but am less sure about:
I mean, I am pretty sure they are hoaxes, but just didn't think they were so blatant as to definitely be G3'able. I have Prodded two and one was alreayd BLPPRODed. Does anyone have anything to indicate these are real people / clubs (even if the article contains misinformation)? Fenix down ( talk) 12:33, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Please check Club Football Elo Ranking. Is it notable? SLBedit ( talk) 19:36, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm looking for help on doing the new Sporting Kansas City 3rd kit in the club & season template for the team. I don't know how to make it. The design is here. Elisfkc ( talk) 01:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
I originally asked about this at WT:WikiProject Football/Australia task force#Repairing dead embedded links, but was advised by two editors that it would be better to ask here.
I was looking at 2009–10 A-League National Youth League and found that all of the links to match reports were dead and are redirecting to http://www.a-league.com.au/. I've already found archived versions for all of the dead links and have them formated using {{ cite web}}, so the only thing left to do is add them to the article. The match report links were originally embedded into the article; This is a style that may have been OK in the past, but is one that is no longer considered acceptable per Wikipedia's guidelines on citing sources. I am not suggesting that the templates be scrapped; I am only suggesting that the embedded links be converted to footnotes. The working of the template will not be affected (as far as I can tell) and the only difference will be as to how the links appear in the article: Instead of appearing as " Report", they will appear as "Report[1]". Using citation templates will also allow more information about the source to be provided besides its url. I am not asking others to stop whatever they are doing and help me do any of this. I realize it's an old article, but old articles are typically where links go dead and I think its better to repair the dead links per WP:DEADREF than simply leave things as is or just adding {{ dead link}}. Normally, I would discuss something like this on the article's talk page, but since the same problem affects other individual season articles and since it is involving a template, I thought I'd ask for input here. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly ( talk) 13:48, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
@
Marchjuly: I wouldn't move away from using |report=
to hold the reference. Logically, that is the reference parameter, and attaching the ref specifically to the score carries an implication (to me, anyway) that all it's sourcing is the score, not the whole row. And if it stays in the position where the word "Report" normally goes, below the score, then visually it'll be only a minimal change from the expected format. So, using |report=<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.a-league.com.au |title=Ref title |publisher=A-League |accessdate=19 May 2015}}</ref>
,
Adelaide United | 1 – 1 | Central Coast Mariners |
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Monterosso ![]() |
[1] |
D'Apuzzo ![]() |
cheers, Struway2 ( talk) 08:40, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
References
|report=
entry is only visible to the reader if there's something added for it. My guess is embedding links was considered standard back when the template was created, so having a report entry for the infobox seemed perfectly logical at the time because you could embed a link and call it "Report". Embedded links, however, have been deprecated, so a report entry does not seem to be as essential as it once was and putting the footnote after the score is better in my opinion, at least better than simply trying to fill up the parameter with a bare footnote marker or by "Report"[1]. For reference, the entries for |attendance=
and |referee=
are not filled in for each match and infoboxes often have entries that are left blank. Once again, the only way a reader would know that there could be a "report" entry would be if they looked at the edit page markup. Anyway, I've just repaired the dead links for Rd. 1 so that others can see and assess, but I think "score"[1] would be better here. -
Marchjuly (
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06:59, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Is anyone interested in creating a task force for the CONCACAF? We would need a few willing members to help build the page and make articles for it. I'm gonna begin making templates and the layout for it soon in my sandbox as well. So what do you guys think? Da Drewster ( talk) 05:24, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
The link to "summary" just below the score of the 1966/67 League Cup final between QPR and WBA is a link to a betting website. There is no summary of the match as the link suggests. If there was a true original link to a match summary, it has been invaded by a commercial interest or a company is just adding "pretend" summary links. Please could someone with Wikipedia oversight privileges look into this abuse. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.202.129 ( talk) 12:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
A page for this club was created around a year ago, and it was rightly deleted as at that time it wasn't notable - having never played in a national competition or at Step 6 of the National League System.
The club has recently won promotion to the Northern Counties East League, and playing at this level has usually been enough to show notability, so I re-created a page for the club this week.
However, a deletion tag was soon placed on it based on the previous deletion argument and, despite my contest, the page has been deleted for a second time.
The user here seems convinced that Hull United A.F.C. have to play in a national cup competition to be eligible for a Wikipedia page, and won't accept that playing at Step 6 also confers notability, as shown here. I would appreciate it if someone could enter the debate and help get this page undeleted. Kivo ( talk) 12:38, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
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Please can somebody have a word with @ DrunkenGerman: regarding the Francky Sembolo article, they are displaying severe WP:OWNERSHIP issues by blindly reverting me when I try and bring the article in-line with the MOS. Their reversions are so blind they even undo an edit which (in part) agrees with their own comments regarding WP:KARLSRUHER. I have tried to apply WP:BRD but it's hard when they ignore the D and just start the R again, and if I don't pass it off to somebody else I am going to say something I will probably regret... Giant Snowman 20:35, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Some users (i.e. this IP) insist on include the 2007 UEFA Intertoto Cup between the titles won by the club here, here and here. It is false for 4 reasons:
Please, control these articles, thank you.-- Dantetheperuvian ( talk) 21:29, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Go check the UEFA.com at Atléti profile in the same link you provided at point (3).
Its very clear mentioned under the background photo.
Intertoto cup: 2007, (2004).
Also The intertoto cup history at UEFA.com clearly mentioned that there are 11 winners in 2007 and one of them is Atléti.
Here is the source:
http://en.archive.uefa.com/Competitions/IntertotoCup/index.html Regards.— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
95.187.207.51 (
talk)
18:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
@ 95.187.207.51: Did you read what Dantetheperuvian wrote up here? The only winner is the one who goes further in the UEFA Cup, which in that year was Hamburg. MYS 77 ✉ 19:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Please check the Intertoto Cup history link at UEFA.com that has been provided in my earlier response before you replay. 95.187.207.51 ( talk) 19:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for understanding the point Koppapa. 95.187.207.51 ( talk) 21:45, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
As per competition's regulation, the clause should be VERBATIM. Article 4 Trophies 4.01 The CLUBS which qualify for the second qualifying round of the UEFA Cup and which subsequently go furthest in this competition EACH RECEIVE a UEFA Intertoto Cup trophy. 5.246.112.107 ( talk) 06:46, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
^^ Thanks for this addition. So the reasons (1) & (3) approved as wrong. Plus the UEFA Intertoto winners link provided earlier. The matter is responded. 95.187.146.197 ( talk) 08:34, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Why are Atletico Madrid only being discussed here? What about all the other side winners from 2006-2008? Like Napoli and Sampdoira. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.S.C._Napoli#National_titles Napoli for example don't count their side winner IC title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.120.119 ( talk) 19:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
It was more in reply to the people who were editing the LIST OF UEFA COMPETITION WINNERS page, but only amending Atletico's total, and not the other side winners of that era like Napoli and Sampdoria etc.. And also, they have not included new rows for clubs like Tabol, who were also side winners from those years.
Why were people like SLBedit (a Benfica fan) only amending Atletico's total and not giving everyone their new totals? Obviously i understand the main guy's reason for editing, because he is a Atletico fan, but i don't get SLBedit's strange participation in this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.120.119 ( talk) 20:12, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I don't know how to sign posts, and just use logic in your edits ok? How about you add all the side winners of the IC between 2006-2008 or none? Simple as that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.104.189 ( talk) 20:28, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Grateful for any input to discussion here Mooretwin ( talk) 21:07, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
List of top association football goal scorers by country is poorly referenced since 2008. SLBedit ( talk) 12:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Could somebody please take a look at David Silva. User adding Assists.. Discussed here many times before. JMHamo ( talk) 11:17, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
I put the "1953" flag where relevant throughout the football articles (unless I've missed something), because, in my opinion, there is sufficient evidence for it being the "correct" one. But I did not put the "1807" flag anywhere, leaving the current flag instead, because I think evidence is in favour of the current one (the "1807" flag isn't even mentioned in Flag of Wales). Further comments are welcome, and if consensus is reached for another change, I shall make it. -- Theurgist ( talk) 18:53, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Hey guys. I've been covering the Kenyan Premier League crisis on the 2015 in Kenyan football article and the information's started to become quite a lot (I'm still editing the article as I type this message). In a nutshell the section is about a power struggle that the Football Kenya Federation and the Kenyan Premier League have engaged themselves in for control of the top tier of the Kenyan football league system. I was thinking about creating a separate article to cover this (the crisis doesn't look like it's going to end anytime soon) but I came here to ask first because I've never heard of or seen any other article of this kind on Wikipedia before.
Is the crisis notable enough to have its own article or should coverage just continue on 2015 in Kenyan football? It's attracted intervention from FIFA and the Kenyan Ministry of Sports, Culture and the Arts as well, although I haven't seen any coverage from any international media houses or comments/recommendations from other football associations and leagues. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 18:34, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Is Average attendances of La Liga clubs needed? It's a WP:NOTSTATS violation?
Derek Foran made start yesterday (and got a yellow card) for Sacramento Republic FC of the United Soccer League listed as fully professional in WP:FPL. See [1]. It was nominated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek Foran back in 2008 by User:Number 57 on the basis that "he has never played in a fully-pro league" which he now has. Normally I'd contact the closing Admin however they haven't been active in over 6 years. I did list it at WP:REFUND#Derek Foran yesterday, but I should have probably have just listed it here instead. Can an Admin please undelete this before someone recreates it unnecessarily? Thanks, Nfitz ( talk) 15:54, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
I propose addition of "Collapsible Collapsed" in the WikiTables giving information of International Goals of Players with more than 30 International goals. Seriously who on the Earth would want to know if David Villa scored against Liechtenstein on 6 September 2011, or if Fernando Torres scored against Macedonia on 12 August 2009. Sybest 7 7 Talk to Me / Contributions 18:00, 17 March 2015 (UTC) Please list your opinions below. Sybest 7 7 Talk to Me / Contributions 23:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
All I want to do is to add "Collapsible Collapsed" option so that wikipedians who want to see other things aren't disturbed by this. If the changes come in effect the table would look like this -
Sybest 7 7 Talk to Me / Contributions 11:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
What should be the correct way of putting FIFA nationality for players form the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man?
It is my understanding that players should have the flags of their FIFA nationality which for the Channel Island and Isle of Man there is no FIFA nationality as there are no FIFA recognised teams but people born there can play for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland although the islands themselves are under the jurisdiction of The FA (England). I therefore feel that players born in the CI and IOM should have England flags next to their names in club articles unless they have chosen to represent another team. What does everyone else feel? C. 22468 Talk to me 18:26, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
There is nothing to stop someone from the Channel Islands of IOM playing for Wales but England is the most obvious FIFA Nationality when there is no clear FIFA Nationality, this is not unique to the CI and IOM for example if someone was born in Northern Ireland to Scottish parents what would their FIFA Nationality be? I therefore think the best answer is the following "For players born in the Crown dependences their FIFA Nationality is England unless their reason to suggest otherwise" with the reasons to suggest otherwise being things such as playing for a youth team that isn't England, being selected for a national team that isn't England or the player themselves has expressed an interest in playing for a national team that isn't England. C. 22468 Talk to me 20:43, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Both articles are poorly referenced but as far as I can see FC KooTeePee and Kotkan Työväen Palloilijat are the same club? Giant Snowman 19:43, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Dear football experts: Can someone please tell me if Iceland's Throttur FC is a professional football team, whose members should have a Wikipedia article? I ask because Matt Elaison was just deleted. ( http://www.tablesleague.com/teams/throttur_r/matt_eliason/) — Anne Delong ( talk) 13:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
Just wanted to inform about an AfD for the article created after last night event in European qualifying. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Montenegro v Russia (UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying). QED237 (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
A recently created article, Montenegro v Russia (UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying), a match played yesterday, was marked as patrolled and fixed by me. Anyway, I've tagged it with {{ Notability}} because, differently from Serbia v Albania article, I'm not so sure about its relevance. I prefer not to open a procedure for deletion, because I think it can also decide here whether the page is relevant or not. Regards. -- Dэя- Бøяg 07:46, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
An editor has consistently piped Inter Milan to Internazionale and now created Football Club Internazionale Milano (F.C. Internazionale Milano), which is a direct copy of Inter Milan with motivation The original article has become corrupted and no explanation was given as to why the name was changed via consensus voting! and he is clearly not happy with article naming. Advice would be appreciated. Thanky you. QED237 (talk) 14:23, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
@ GiantSnowman: You often have good knowledge of this things as an admin. QED237 (talk) 14:25, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
After the previous FAC was closed prematurely, I've opened a new FAC for the 2008 UEFA Champions League Final article. I'd appreciate as many comments as possible, as I'm hoping this article could set a new standard for what constitutes a Featured football match article here. – Pee Jay 17:45, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Could any admins about please move Sok Chanraksmey (footballer) to Sok Chanraksmey? The disambiguation is not necessary but the proper title for the page has been salted due to sockpuppetry. Thank you. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 20:17, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
A user that User:Kante4 and myself has had some discussions with in the past has created the article 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup Match officials which neither of us thinks should have been created. It is the same as the section 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup#Match officials (a list of referees) and there is no need for an extra article. What to do? CSD? PROD? AfD?. Any help is appreciated. QED237 (talk) 11:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Please comment at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Disambiguation by position. DrKiernan ( talk) 07:24, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Is the action of kicking in relation to our beautiful game actually deserving of its own article? The article itself seems more akin to a medical text than an encyclopaedic work! – Pee Jay 20:03, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
I need advice. A week or two ago I deleted articles at AFD about Bryan Ciesiulka and Jacob Bushue, because the consensus was they did not meet the standards of WP:NFOOTBALL. I have now been told, here, that both are now playing for the Saint Louis FC and that this makes them notable. I don't know enough about football/soccer to know if playing for the Saint Louis FC qualifies a person for an article. Advice please? Thanks. -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Gentlemen. I have noticed that one of the recent edits to Template:Football box collapsible resulted in displaying a bold matchdate for a single match, or a second match of two-legged pair, but not for a first match of the series. I guess it has something to do with using ''' characters to unbold eliminated team. Can anyone who has wikicoding skills fix this? (I think this affects lots of current pages) - BlameRuiner ( talk) 16:04, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Category:Articles lacking sources from October 2006 are the oldest unreferenced articles in Wikipedia. A large pool of them are football teams and stadiums. Do people here have sources that could be used to add refs to them? Would someone want to make sure that all of the articles on minor teams and stadiums belong in the encyclopedia? - SimonP ( talk) 17:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Since a while ago, {{
fb|BIH}}
has been defaulting to
Bosnia-Herzegovina rather than
Bosnia and Herzegovina. Why? "
Bosnia and Herzegovina" is the proper and common name for the country. That's how the association is labelled at
FIFA.com and
UEFA.com. There do exist a few other values of
{{
fb}}
which default to versions containing the conjunction "and" (like {{
fb|TRI}}
,
Trinidad and Tobago). --
Theurgist (
talk)
09:50, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Could someone please assist in this matter? According to NFT.com, this player has 147 caps (plus one unofficial appearance), and if you visit his RSSSF entry, it'll say he has 149, but three of those caps are only viewed as official by the Iranian FA, thus I imagine not by FIFA. Today, after featuring against Chile on 26 March (still not available at RSSSF), he is celebrating his 148th against Sweden according to FIFA.
In spite of this, his total is changed again, again and again, without one word in summary or the article's page. I have looked for advice on how to handle this elsewhere, but still have received no feedback.
Attentively -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 18:11, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Is there any guidelines about what to name an article about a defunct club that had more than one name? Should the article be under, for example, the last name by which the club was known? Or the name by which it was known for longest? The particular club I have in mind is the Irish team that began life as Albert Rovers, then became Cork Alberts and finished as Cork United. (For most of its existence it was called Albert Rovers.) Mooretwin ( talk) 14:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi there,
To me, the WP:GNG explanation is not that "understandable". How can I be sure that somebody who fails WP:FOOTY can be created through WP:GNG?
For an example: Aarón Fernández Sorroche. The guy never played in a fully professional league but another user removed my PROD by saying he's notable through GNG, and added a reference (which cites he's not professional) from El Norte de Castilla.
Example #2: Miguel Cardoso. He appears in almost all major Portuguese websites ( Record, Mais Futebol, Sapo and O Jogo) and also in Marca and Mundo Deportivo, but never played any fully pro matches. He's notable or not?
Cheers, MYS 77 ✉ 19:45, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
What are people's opinions about {{ Millwall F.C. Hall of Fame}} and Category:Millwall F.C. Hall of Fame inductees? Giant Snowman 17:25, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I'm thinking for something and I need your help. You know the Kosovo national football team's case of being not full recognized by FIFA and UEFA, but it's permitted to play international friendlies with the FIFA members since 2014.
The question is, should we count the Kosovo's matches which were played before being permitted by UEFA and FIFA (before 2014) as a cap for their players who participated in all matches also the opponent players even? For example one of the "big" website for national football teams, the national-football-teams.com count the match Kosovo-Albania in 2002 and award caps to both sides players. Such as this match, another one was played between the same countys in 2010 but it's not published at the National-football-teams.com, but can I use this source to add caps to respective players who played in this match. I also have the list of called up players for both national teams ( see here). Thank you Eni.Sukthi.Durres ( talk) 19:34, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
On Chakib Hocine's article, User:Mikemor92 keeps removing information I put in the infobox because "reserve league stats are a no-no" and then goes and replaces them with U23 stats. Is there any consensus on which should stats should be included? I personally don't see U23 as relevant, especially considering that it's in the PDL, a non-notable league. I don't want to revert his changes again and violate 3RR, so it would be appreciated if someone can jump in and provide some info. TonyStarks ( talk) 19:54, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
WP:FPL is in serious need of updating and contributors. Any input very much welcome Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues Abcmaxx ( talk) 14:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Apparently there is a conflict of interest at this page over what I guess is the fixtures and results because when I redid the page the only major removal I made was the fixtures and results but only because there are 14 rounds and this league, unlike past editions, is being organized as an actual league, just with a neutral venue. Cheers. -- ArsenalFan700 ( talk) 04:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello all. I have just run a catscan, which shows that over 18,000 Wikipedia articles connected to football are lacking the {{WikiProject Football}} banner. This is important to the project as tagged pages automatically show when they are listed for deletion or Good Article status, for example. I have just added around 100 banners, but there are plenty left, so if you have the time and inclination, get cracking! Thanks, C 679 18:30, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there a good alternative to soccerway for player statistics (club)? Soccerway is a good resource, but it does not show more than 8-10 last seasons on player info page... -- XXN, 20:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Soccerway is considered reliable for league/Cup games - but not international games. Playerhistory is still down and is likely to be so for a long time. Giant Snowman 15:43, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, if I use this as a reference, then in the title as here, {{cite web |title=xx|url=xx|date=4 April 2015|publisher=xx|accessdate=6 April 2015}} should I write Soccerway profile or the name of the player in the format "Common name:Full name", which is in this case "Miguel Angelo:Miguel Angelo Ferreira de Castro"? RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি ( talk) 17:43, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
|title=
as "title of source page on website". So in your example, you'd put what appears at the top of the page, which is "Miguel Angelo".This article had an unsourced claim about "Longest range free kick: Maynor Figueroa" being 88 yards for many months, from a quick look at the history. I don't see any mention at Maynor Figueroa. An IP has recently tried to change that to 60 yards, but has broken the template. There is a claim on the talk page about the value. Would someone please sort it out, or just remove the entry as unsourced if there is no verification. Johnuniq ( talk) 10:03, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
I think the trigramme parameter of the national team infobox should be renamed. It practically prevents the trigramme from being included on the articles for Gibraltar national football team and Great Britain, for example, even though both countries have officially-assigned codes by other multinational sporting bodies recognised by FIFA and the latter's results also appear on FIFA's database. VEO one five 13:37, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I want input from football community.
I recently reverted the addition of "Form" section (The section can be seen in this diff). To me it is not notable and content that will only be true for a very short period than change so it should not be included.
Then I spotted several templates being created and modified so I want to bring it here.
1. Template for using form. They were created as fb team templates, which I thought should be removed from use to use wikilinks instead of team templates?. The templates created are:
2. Templates for infoboxes has been modified ({{ Infobox football club season}} that was later reverted by User:PeeJay2K3) and {{ Test infobox}} was created (and is now empty).
3. Also it seems like a major change was made to {{ Fb rs}} was made without testing and consensus (like trial and error with many edits).
What do you think? Some TfD or should they exist? QED237 (talk) 11:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Koppapa, GiantSnowman, PeeJay2K3, and CRwikiCA: The empty template has been put up for speedy deletion as it was blank by the only editor. The others are at TfD at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 April 10#Team form templates. Feel free to bring your comments at the TfD. QED237 (talk) 16:20, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
After a friendly difference of opinions with User:DrunkenGerman, the following note from me, lest I have forgotten past forum discussions:
in the introductions to footballer articles, we are not to write "currently", am I correct? Also, we are to write "is a footballer who plays as a X" rather than "is a football defender" to prevent overlinking, right?
Last but not least, if a player plays outside his country we are not to write leagues, only the nation. Example: " Nacho Monreal is a Spanish footballer who plays for English club Arsenal as a left back". Is this it?
Attentively, happy weekend all -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 18:52, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there any guidelines about what to name an article about a defunct club that had more than one name? Should the article be under, for example, the last name by which the club was known? Or the name by which it was known for longest? The particular club I have in mind is the Irish team that began life as Albert Rovers, then became Cork Alberts and finished as Cork United. (For most of its existence it was called Albert Rovers.) Mooretwin ( talk) 14:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Has anyone seen the squad lists in place at Yeovil Town F.C. and Port Vale F.C.? I remember us discussing a change, but I don't remember anyone agreeing it should be implemented. Should I change these back to the standard squad list? – Pee Jay 11:19, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I need help with Chilean Apertura Tournament. It is definately at the wrong name as it is 2006 part of a league? I am not sure about this league structure so need help what name it should have and if it even should exist? Also it is very poorly sourced.
It seems like Chilean Primera División is divided in two parts and Apertura is first part. Looking at other seasons 2007 Chilean Primera División season exists but not 2006.
An other issue I have is that the links in infobox points to year 2007 and not 2007 tournament.
All help appreciated. QED237 (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I recently had a difference of opinion with User:GiantSnowman, when he reverted an edit I made to the Darian MacKinnon article. What I had done was to remove details from the infobox of the various adult amateur level clubs MacKinnon has played for, on the basis that the instructions / guidelines at Template:Infobox football biography emphasise that the "clubs1" etc. parameters are for listing professional clubs the player has been with. Should we interpret this to mean all adult-level teams, or should it be restricted to professional levels? My personal definition of this would stretch to including semi-pro leagues, amateur clubs competing at pro level (e.g. Queen's Park), national levels with amateur status (e.g. Scottish League pre-1893) etc. but not what are basically "public park" level amateur clubs. Whilst relevant information should, of course, be included in the article body where available, I think its inclusion in the infobox is distracting and in many cases it will be difficult to source the relevant facts such as years, appearances and goals that would, ideally, appear along with team names. The MacKinnon example is a particularly obvious one, although I concede that few notable players will have such a long list of clubs at this level as he does. I think it would be useful, however, if we could get some sort of consensus on the issue. Off the top of my head, other articles to which this is relevant would include Paul Sturrock and Colin Cameron (footballer); at present neither of these include amateur clubs in their infoboxes. Jellyman ( talk) 09:32, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Best title for this new top level women's league Super League, replacing the BeNe League as highest league. Belgian Women's First Division will stay the second level league. (Belgium), (women), ? - Koppapa ( talk) 11:51, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Views on this article welcome, I have been reverted for removing commentary-like content ("He played in this game, he scored a goal in that game etc.") and further input would be appreciated. Giant Snowman 13:36, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
There is a template talk page discussion regarding the graphics used for medalists in infobox medals tables occurring at Template talk:Medal#Changing from gold/silver/bronze to 1/2/3. As this discussion is within the scope of WP:Football, you are invited to make your comments on the recent graphics changes there. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 15:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Someone has added a tournament style bracket to the 2015 CAF Champions League qualifying rounds article. Is it really necessary for qualifiers? I've never seen qualifying rounds represented this way and in my opinion it doesn't make sense. Brackets are used for tournaments where you're headed to a final, not for qualifiers. I didn't want to just go ahead and remove it without discussing it with others but I'm pretty sure that it's not necessary. TonyStarks ( talk) 21:39, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
I find it strange that:
What makes the first derby "derby I" or the third "derby III", or the other way round?
I think either merge the pages into Tirana derby, or rename "derby I" and "derby II" to "KF Tirana-Partizani Tirana rivalry" and "Dinamo Tirana-KF Tirana rivalry", respectively Abcmaxx ( talk) 21:56, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
I am not a football expert and don't know which sources are reliable for footballer bios, so I hope someone here can help disentangle what seems to be a muddle. I came across the redirect Asomon Kenet while sorting out a dab page at Kenet. It redirects to Kennedy Boateng, which shows his middle name as "Asamoah" but doesn't mention the "Kenet".
There's another redirect, from Kenneth Asamoah to Kennedy B.
Looking at the history of that KA redirect: [ [3]]
But the article here: http://uk.soccerway.com/players/asomon-kenet/64552/ lists Asomon Kenet with date of birth 12 April 1988, not the same as the 30 November 1989 given for Kennedy B in his Wikipedia article. Soccerway also has a separate article http://uk.soccerway.com/players/kennedy-boateng/286921/ (which gives his date of birth as 1 August 1992). And http://uk.soccerway.com/players/kenneth-asamoah/90379/ (date of birth 1 August 1988).
So have we got one or two or three footballers here, and which of the four dates of birth is or are right? Is Soccerway reliable? Have fun. Pam D 15:52, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Any Uruguayan users out there (preferably)? Can we get this person's infobox complete? At least ZEROZERO.pt says he played for Peñarol before arriving in Spain, but the site is not very reliable because it's user-generated.
Attentively, thanks in advance -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 20:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I've had a user revert an edit that I've done on the Major League Soccer season's table. I'd initially placed on the overall season's table the qualifiers for the end of season MLS Cup Playoff Series. This conforms to what is used in the season tables for the A-League (showing the Finals series teams) and also the ASB Premiership. The user that reverted this edit claimed that he had done so, as the MLS Cup spots are determined by position in the Western/Eastern Conference, and shouldn't be included on the overall table. I feel that if this were truly the case, that the winners of National Cup competitions wouldn't be shown on their league tables as having qualified for their subsequent tournaments. I feel as though showing the MLS Cup qualifiers on the overall league table if anything makes more sense than showing the winners of the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup winner's Champions League spot... Am I missing something, or shouldn't all major tournaments such as these have their qualifiers shown on the overall league table?... Thoughts? - J man708 ( talk) 02:36, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Firstly, thank you for taking the time out to discuss this with me. I appreciate it. Secondly and rather comically, those diagrams you showed I genuinely do believe that both pieces of information could be merged into one, provided it were to be done correctly. But I do see your point about it appearing a bit shambolic. I will agree with you that it does appear to be that way at the moment, however the further the season goes, the wider the overall gap will be between the haves and have-nots of each conference and will be very unlikely that we will find a block of three MLS Cup teams so far outside of the Top 12, as is currently the case. I'm curious as to why you've only reverted the edits on the 2015 page and not the previous seasons, which have also been edited to show the MLS spots? If you are to delete the MLS Cup spots for the interim, could you at least replace the Champions League positions, as that too is something that every league in the world has listed on their pages. I understand that they're reliant on the conference winners, but it's pretty set in stone that you have to be the top team to win it (unless you're Canadian). That's sorta the issue now, is that there is a Canadian team atop the standings, which throws this out of whack. A similar issue has occured in the A-League this season, wherein the Wellington Phoenix (from New Zealand) were sitting in an Asian Champions League spot, despite being ineligable as they're from Oceania. This was the end result, that everyone seemed happy with. A similar set up surely should be utilised for the MLS. Outside of the conference system, the A-League is almost identical to the MLS (being franchise based, salary caps, etc.)... When you mentioned earlier that I should've brought it up for a discussion, I kinda feel like I already have and that we're talking in the place wherein the discussion is taking place. For me, this is an issue that had already been decided upon globally and thus, negated the need to bring up on the individual talk page. - J man708 ( talk) 23:43, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
I was reviewing a picture I took of a moat at Estádio Olímpico João Havelange.. I was expecting to find an article about Hooliganism mentioning moats as a safety measure (where I could add the picture). Researching, I found there was a large moat at the previous incarnation of Maracanã Stadium, at Estadio Azteca and the specialized construction at The Float at Marina Bay. On-line blogs say moats were common in European stadiums in the 1970's. I must admit I'm not fanatical about the sport of football, so I don't know too much of the history There doesn't seem to be any discussion or mention of moats here. If those major stadiums have gone through the effort to build moats, or they were later removed, I would think it would be more common, thus an article on the subject would be appropriate. Maybe I'm ill informed. I'm certainly not the right person to write about it, maybe someone in this project would be. Trackinfo ( talk) 19:12, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
...fancy semi-protecting Trevor Benjamin? Hilarious vandalism of the day appears to be to change his middle name to "Goal Machine"... It's been at RFPP for some time but nothing's happened yet. thanks in advance, Struway2 ( talk) 17:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed this article was sorted on Baiano so I renamed the article to Baiano (football player). I have now found Dermival Almeida Lima who is also known as Baiano, so its a bit of a pickle, can someone fix, (including getting Defaultsorts to match the article names ? Sorry for acting in haste by renaming... Thanks GrahamHardy ( talk) 13:09, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi everyone.
There is a league table dispute at Template:2015 Allsvenskan table making it full protected, which is not good with matches today and upcoming days, so please join discussion at Template talk:2015 Allsvenskan table#Table position. Thank you. QED237 (talk) 09:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Could an Admin please block Johndrew elaine ( talk · contribs) for mass disruptive editing. Thanks, JMHamo ( talk) 15:58, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I would like to know if a player becomes notable if they have played in a continental competition, e.g. Champions League, Europa League, etc., but havent played in any domestic/professional league? Cheers! MbahGondrong ( talk) 11:22, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Can someone, after a quick glance at this person's PERSONAL LIFE section, deem the info that appears therein vandalism? I have had this section removed three times, having my efforts called vandalic and receiving absolutely no other forms of feedback from the other party. My two cents? A ETA fanboy, nothing more, nothing less!
I do appreciate sincerity, so please do tell if you think the aforementioned section is not encyclopedical (methinks it is, his father got 30 YEARS, and it affected the son's career in a negative way), remove it and we all can live happily ever after without this nuisance. The crowning turd in the waterpipe? He removes the section and has no summary note attached to his edit, I revert him and receive a "possible BLP issue or vandalism" tag. Yes, my summaries, always my summaries (but this one was merely hysterical, nothing else - and by the way, I think it's a mere technical glitch when a bot "calls" you a potential vandal, but I'm not having that from other users, would you? Thought not), I apologize to the community again, all I can do.
Attentively -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 22:16, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi football people,
At 2014–15 Liga I there is a dispute wheter or not to display note for dinamo bucharest about the fact the can not get one of the places to european competition because they filed for insolvency. To me it is notable because the readers can see what teams can get the CL and EL spots and when teams switch places it is also good for the updating editor to see what teams can not get the CL and EL places in the table. The other editor dont think it is notable to note in table. What is your opinion? QED237 (talk) 14:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Also we have it for some teams so why not dinamo? QED237 (talk) 14:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
For now, Dinamo isn't on a European spot. So that note is completely useless. When Dinamo will ocupy a European spot, the note will have to be used to explain why they can't qualify. It is the case with Petrolul and CS Universitatea Craiova. Eddie Nixon ( talk) 16:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
I know this is not encyclopedical (at all), but I'd like to offer some comic relief to the footy community, ever so stressed out :) Yesterday, at half-time of the La Liga fixture between Athletic Bilbao and Real Sociedad, someone was on the pitch being honoured with an award (later I found out it was the ONE-MAN CLUB AWARD, for players that have spent their whole career in the same club), and I said to myself "I know this guy". After five seconds, light was made, I recognized Matthew Le Tissier, with his crooked tooth on the left side and his "overall good bloke" smile.
Part one...part two: the broadcaster from Sport TV made the following comment: "And there you go, a former legend of this club (by "this" he meant Athletic Bilbao!) being honoured". I didn't want to be a buzzkill to all the Saints fans out there, but here is the truth, Matty is far from being a saint, he's a downright lion!
You guys continue to have fun out there, improving those articles, keep it up from Portugal -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 17:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks! A true genius of football, and he did well choosing family and stability over money, I suppose player of his (immense) caliber must have have had tons of offers in his prime. And not only the mad skills, he shot the ball with tremendous power as well. A real Bilbao (sorry, So'ton) legend :) -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 18:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Im asking here as the main club article template doesn't really cover it. The Heart of Midlothian F.C. article Honours section is split into minor and major honours, should it be done like this and if so what constitutes major and minor. Currently the Scottish premiership is listed as minor, however leagues such as the second tier the Scottish Championship or East of Scotland are minor. Is major and minor not too open for debate, without proper inclusion guidelines. Whats everyones thoughts on this? The section has been organised in different ways but this is how its been for a wee whilst. Blethering Scot 16:57, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello, could people please watch Jacob Mellis, LawrenceBarnard11 ( talk · contribs) is removing the Controversy section, so I think he's some way related to the player. I suspect it may be a sock of blocked Mmanagementltd ( talk · contribs) but I cannot say for definite. Thanks, JMHamo ( talk) 14:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there an Admin about to deal with 114.124.32.229 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) before they request updated photos for the entire Manchester United squad? JMHamo ( talk) 09:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
This FAC has only had three responses so far, and none from any established members of this community. Any chance a few of you could throw a glance over it and let me know what you think? I'm certain it's a hair's breadth away from reaching FA status, but it's going to fail automatically if it doesn't get at least two more responses in the next few days. – Pee Jay 23:25, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Is in a bit of a dispute with DrunkenGerman regarding the style of TSG 1899 Hoffenheim squad list, i see now purpose or improvment of the article by the breakers he have added and considers it breaks the Club manual of style (subjective i know), decided to seek a consensus before it grows to unecasary proportions. Halmstad ( talk) 19:39, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Please take a look at José Mourinho#Controversies, tagged since June 2013. SLBedit ( talk) 21:14, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi all
I recently performed a move closure on Talk:Paul Hunter (American soccer), which was a clear consensus for move, but without a clear consensus on where to move to. I'd like to see if we can get some definitive clarification on whether the disambiguator "American soccer" or "Canadian soccer" is preferable. Please could as many of you guys as possible go there to give your opinion. Thanks — Amakuru ( talk) 15:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
RE: The above convo, it's better to start again to save other readers the headache of having to make sense of the above convo. I've come across an issue when rolling out changes to the MLS league tables for the last few seasons. Being a league with a post-season playoff series (called the MLS Cup), the MLS allows 12 teams to qualify via finishing in the Top 6 of their respective Western/Eastern Conferences. This can lead to Team A making the playoffs, Team B failing to make it, but Team A finishing on the Overall Combined Table ahead of Team B. The issue at hand here is whether or not these teams should be listed on the Overall Combined Table as MLS Cup qualifiers ( as seen here), or not shown ( as seen here). - J man708 ( talk) 05:40, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Conference tables should be used as this is the method how they qualify for the playoffs. Kante4 ( talk) 08:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
After the demise of Salisbury City F.C., a new club has been formed called Salisbury F.C. and is likely to join the Wessex League next season. Assuming this club merits a new article and not a continuation of the City article, I was wondering what to call it. Salisbury City were originally called Salisbury F.C. (until 1993) and Salisbury F.C. is currently a redirect to the City article. Should it be "Salisbury F.C. (2014)" or something along those lines? Bretonbanquet ( talk) 10:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi, people. Looking to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/League_season#Table formatting I can see the color for the qualification to promotion playoffs in lower divisions is yellow but we are using blue like in 2014–15 Football League Championship or 2014–15 Segunda División.
I want also to ask you how must be coloured a table where there are several stages in a promotion playoff but not a direct promotion, like in 2014–15 Segunda División B?
And last, where can I see the RGB codes of the colours used in these tables? Thank you! Asturkian ( talk) 11:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Level | Green | Blue | Yellow | Red | Black |
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Level 1 | BBF3BB | BBF3FF | FFFFBB | FFBBBB | BBBBBB |
Level 2 | CCF9CC | CCF9FF | FFFFCC | FFCCCC | CCCCCC |
Level 3 | DDFCDD | DDFCFF | FFFFDD | FFDDDD | DDDDDD |
Level 4 | EEFFEE | EEFFFF | FFFFEE | FFEEEE | EEEEEE |
White | White | White | White | White | White |
You can see the format
here. The four group champions join a special playoff where the two winners promote and the two losers are dropped to the "normal playoff" with the rest of the qualified teams for two more spots. Copa del Rey qualification is for the top five non-reserve teams of each group and two more places. I hope I explained it well.
Asturkian (
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15:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Initially I suspected it could be User:Zombie, however this one is based in the United States. I found at least two cases of this IP adding unsourced stats, Ladule Lako LoSarah and Lamin Samateh. Just wanting to call the attention of the community about this. FkpCascais ( talk) 22:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
If somebody is interested, I have a list of players, which hasn't article here at English Wikipedia. The link is to Russian Wikipedia and the number is iw links. Of course, some of them may not pass notability criteria, bet I think this list would be useful overally. Feel free to remove players from list if article is created or player isn't notable, make some comments there or do whatever you want :) -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 16:25, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Needs a new title for so many reasons - any suggestions? Or is the premise so flawed it would be better off being deleted anyway........? -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 10:23, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Arbitrary. POV. Delete. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC) Which is a bit of a shame, because I'd quite enjoy the inevitable ensuing argument about the English League Cup ending up at WP:LAME. Not to mention the Simod Cup and the magnificent Anglo-Italian Cup. And the Norfolk & Norwich Hospital Cup. Ooh look, a redlink. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Q If the chart was done in a non POV way (if there was such a way possible) wouldn't Rangers cake-walk it? -- Dweller ( talk) 14:24, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
{{od} Now at AFD. Giant Snowman 15:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Help needed at Jérôme Boateng, high level of vandalism after Champions League tonight. I have asked for page to be protected. QED237 (talk) 23:26, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Teammates,
I have just added a new section to Raül Agné's article (see PERSONAL LIFE). I think it is encyclopedical, but it the community does not deem it so, please remove it and sorry for any inconvenience. However, if you do deem it so, the following: in reference #14, I had to insert characters similar to WP:SHOUTING because it's the ACTUAL title of the source, and a filter perceived my actions as potential vandalism, further adding that if I clicked "save" upon being warned I could be blocked if the verdict was finally that of "guilt".
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, attentively -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 18:21, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Template:Ivory Coast national football team matches, and ten other similar football-related navboxes, have been
nominated for deletion. Because these templates are within the scope of WikiProject Football, you are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.
Dirtlawyer1 (
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02:49, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Our previous agreement was only league apps in box, right? But what happens if a team doesn't have a league to play? For an example, this year: teams like Ituano, Audax and others don't have a national league to play for, while Santos, São Paulo are playing at national levels.
My question now is: should we include the Campeonato Paulista apps and goals for these teams who don't have any national leagues ( Série A, Série B and so on) to play, or should we leave them as 0/0? If we leave the last way as pattern, everybody will see an infobox like Hernane (the guy won recognition in Brazilian football through a Campeonato Paulista, and his apps related to that year's tournament are 0/0 in box), or worse, like Rafael Longuine (represented a bunch of lowly state clubs, and it appears that he only played ten times for an Austrian club).
Cheers, MYS 77 ✉ 01:09, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi, an IP insists on using Transfermarkt as source at Burak Yılmaz, help needed. I dont want to edit war. QED237 (talk) 10:03, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
2 questions have come up in a discussion I've been having with Simione001:
1. In 2012, Australia sent their U20 side for 2013 AFC U-22 Championship qualification where most teams were U23 sides. Football Federation Australia said: "Although the upcoming tournament is for U-22 players, Football Federation Australia took the decision to field the Qantas Young Socceroos (U-20 players) in the competition as part of their preparations for the AFC U-19 Championship" ( source). Should these games count as caps for the U23 or U20 side?
2. Should matches in L'Alcúdia International Football Tournament count as youth caps, when games are between national teams, despite the presence of club teams in some editions of the tournament?
Macosal ( talk) 12:45, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
On this article ( KF Apolonia Fier) the manager is Elidon Demiri whereas it is written in 2014–15 Albanian Superliga that the manager of KF Apolonia Fier is Artan Mergjyshi. Did it change at the beginning of the season ? A.Gust14 ( talk) 11:10, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Just came across this WP:STALEDRAFT created by a blocked user and I'm not sure what to make of it. It appears to be some sort of list of team lineups in some tournament of some sort, but I can't say much more than that. I am posting about it here because I am hoping that someone who knows more about this subject could determine what this is. Everymorning talk 00:22, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Now that Carpi has been officially promoted to Serie A, I think it's a good time to re-open the discussion about the name of the article. The page was moved from Carpi F.C. 1909 to Carpi FC 1909 with the motivation "the logo has no punctuation" (see also the article's talk page), while all the articles on italian football teams and the official website of the side use it. CapPixel ( talk) 09:16, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
I opened a new move request for Carpi. CapPixel ( talk) 11:20, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Please see Sport London e Benfica F.C.. Eagle1981 is edit warring without providing a reliable source. SLBedit ( talk) 18:20, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
The person in question has continued steal the identity of the club in various social media. We have tried to politely ask him to stop doing this without result. Our club neither has the time or the resources to continually chase this person from harrassing our organisation. After several pages were removed from facebook we politely request Wikipedia to do the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eagle1981 ( talk • contribs) 11:34, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
For the second or third time, User:GiantSnowman does not allow for external links to be inserted in this player's article, even though I try my "bestest". Yes, I know, according to him (and probably several users, I'm not bashing that), it's best to cite directly, but pretty much everything is now directly cited in the piece, and the links are harmless and useful.
What costs me the most if the "usage" (or lack thereof) or the BDFUTBOL.com link. The player spent five years in Spain, the link contains cup appearances, should it be discarded in this fashion? Methinks not. I repeat, we can have both approaches blend into one (all the contents directly cited, and a couple of interesting and, I repeat, HARMLESS external links)? On a related note, FOOTBALLDATABASE.eu and NFT.com have been removed too (yes, the latter already exists in the form of a reference, but I've seen hundreds of articles where NFT was used as both a ref - mostly for stats charts - and a link and nobody touched that).
Am I missing something here, and external links are a definite no-no these days? And I don't think this is a case of WP:OWNERSHIP on my part, I am respecting GS's approach, would like to have the same done to mine and be allowed, at least, to reinstate BDFUTBOL entry as a link. Attentively -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 15:02, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
OK, four near-identical links is overkill, i'll take that one. How about just BDFUTBOL.com? If that link adds nothing to the article when the guy spent FIVE years in Spain then I rest my case, will never touch that article again, be sure of it, don't want to be a nuisance to anybody, especially now that I don't have an account. -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 15:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Struway (and thank you both for your inputs). I am going to restore BDFUTBOL, and only that one. -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 15:41, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
But his spell in Spain is already 99,999999999999% cited with REAL refs (and I can make it 100% if asked to), and the link is (for the umpteenth time) harmless, not to mention comprehensive. The way I see it, an external link is something for easy consultation (oh, this guy/gal played for this/that team, scoring this many goals and being sent off 16 times), the storyline (and the refs that (should) accompany it) is a much more comprehensive read.
I'm lost for words... And what about his youth years with Lyon, am I "allowed" to re-insert that in box? -- 84.90.219.128 ( talk) 19:49, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Jackichand_Singh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArsenalFan700 ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
How should we describe players who are born and raised in one country but represent another at international level? I'm having an issue with @ TonyStarks: at Riyad Mahrez but this principle applies to thousands of articles. I think we shouldn't assign a nationality at the start of the intro, but should instead go into details re:nationality further in the intro i.e. like this. On this article in particular TS is pushing his pro-Algerian POV but that is another matter... Giant Snowman 22:49, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
The current version looks like a good compromise, I hope everyone agrees. Giant Snowman 18:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I have not listed Struway2 as while he initially suggested #2 he also stated #3 was acceptable. I suspect Cliftonian would also agree with #3 given his earlier comments in the discussion. No editors other than myself, Koncorde, and TS have edited the article or indeed participated in this discussion any further since then. The only person who therefore expresses an active opposition to the current version is Tony - but why? Giant Snowman 09:54, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
An editor is making a large number of unsourced changes to articles. I am tied up in the real world and can only dip in and out here today but feel that the sooner they are stopped the less cleaning up will be needed. Britmax ( talk) 14:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Is the article National Football Teams Highest and Lowest FIFA Rankings notable? QED237 (talk) 15:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
@ CRwikiCA, PeeJay2K3, GiantSnowman, and Koppapa: Okay so AfD then? QED237 (talk) 16:46, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
@ CRwikiCA, PeeJay2K3, GiantSnowman, and Koppapa: Now at this AfD. Feel free to post your comments. QED237 (talk) 21:59, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
@ CRwikiCA, PeeJay2K3, GiantSnowman, and Koppapa: Two similar articles now at AfD here and here. It is the articles Turkish Super League Teams Ranking According to League Positions and Turkish Super League all time table. Feel free to voice your opinion. QED237 (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
For the third time (or more), User:Postcard Cathy can't seem to understant the rules of WP:MCSTJR. The subject is known as HUGO, and only HUGO. Not as Cabral. The sources ( [4], [5], [6], [7]) confirm this, and if you Google his name you'll clearly see that he's known as HUGO.
I was reverted without any explanation why, and got the same outcome why when I asked her directly.
Can someone take a look at this? Thanks, MYS 77 ✉ 19:09, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
An IP has been repeatedly adding an unsourced list of West Ham's games in Europe. I have twice reverted but it's back again despite me advising him of the lack of sources. Not only is this unsourced it is also in West Ham United F.C. in European football. Surely the unsourced duplication in the West Ham United F.C. article is unnecessary?-- Egghead06 ( talk) 16:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
FA Amateur Cup appearances in the 1930s enough to denote notability? Thoughts on Magdala Amateurs F.C. article? Cheers. Del♉sion23 (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
My mistake, I couldn't find them before but the first team are here in the relegation zone of the Nottinghamshire Senior League Division One. Notability question still stands though, are they notable? Del♉sion23 (talk) 12:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
The recent ban in third-party ownership or involve in the takeover AC Milan, would the article Doyen Group have a strong point to discuss in deletion review, or still not yet notable? Matthew_hk t c 13:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Someone created All time appearances in European Cup and UEFA Champions League after i removed it here (in article European Cup and UEFA Champions League records and statistics) because we already have a list for appearances in main round (excluding qualifications). Do we need this new article? QED237 (talk) 16:44, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
This article is now at this AfD created by User:Lukeno94. QED237 (talk) 21:52, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Template:Greater Los Angeles Sports in 1946 and similiar templates have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_18#Greater_Los_Angeles_Sports_by_year_navboxes. Thanks.— Bagumba ( talk) 19:57, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello to all of you. I was going through some pages and noticed that this french player has two pages here, with different spellings. It seems, according to his
Soccerway and
L'équipe.fr profiles, that the first one is the correct spelling. Can anyone here nominate the second page for deletion ? (Or explain to me how to do it, I'll gladly to it once I know how).
Regards,
Tuttiseme (
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14:00, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
There's a discussion currently ongoing regarding the non-free use of the "Hyundai A-League" logo in A-League, 2014-15 A-League and 2015–16 A-League at WP:NFCR#File:Hyundai A-League logo.svg. Use of non-free images is covered under WP:NFC and there are specific criteria that need to be satisfied in order to use such an image in an article. NFCR is not a file deletion discussion; It's simply to discuss whether the usage of non-free content complies with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. All interested editors are invited to comment and any additional clarification that can be provided about the logo would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly ( talk) 00:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
The American North American Soccer League has just announced that a new club called Miami FC will play in their league come 2016. There was already several links to an article/club called Miami FC which renamed itself to Fort Lauderdale Strikers in 2010. To avoid confusion, I've updated those links to the page Miami FC (2006) and amended categories on player and season articles. TheBigJagielka ( talk) 20:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Hey, any help is welcome. He isn't notable or am i wrong? Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Augusto Batalla Kante4 ( talk) 20:12, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I took a few photos while I was on a tour of Old Trafford a few years ago, but I forgot to refer back to them for use here. Some of the info on the exhibits in the museum doesn't seem to have been replicated anywhere else (such as the fact that tennis player Suzanne Lenglen played an exhibition match at Old Trafford in 1927). How valid is this as a source, and if valid, how would I go about adding a reference to it to an article? – Pee Jay 18:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Someone just added newly created F.C.S.B. to the top Romanian league table at 2014–15 Liga I instead of Steaua Bucharest, which I reverted. The article claims Steaua is defunct, but I know they got UEFA license a few days ago. Is this true or a hoax? Qed237 (talk) 15:26, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Declan Martin, a relatively new user seems to be engaged in creating nothing but relativley detailed hoax articles. I already speedied Johan Jamaza as an obvious hoax, but am less sure about:
I mean, I am pretty sure they are hoaxes, but just didn't think they were so blatant as to definitely be G3'able. I have Prodded two and one was alreayd BLPPRODed. Does anyone have anything to indicate these are real people / clubs (even if the article contains misinformation)? Fenix down ( talk) 12:33, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Please check Club Football Elo Ranking. Is it notable? SLBedit ( talk) 19:36, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm looking for help on doing the new Sporting Kansas City 3rd kit in the club & season template for the team. I don't know how to make it. The design is here. Elisfkc ( talk) 01:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
I originally asked about this at WT:WikiProject Football/Australia task force#Repairing dead embedded links, but was advised by two editors that it would be better to ask here.
I was looking at 2009–10 A-League National Youth League and found that all of the links to match reports were dead and are redirecting to http://www.a-league.com.au/. I've already found archived versions for all of the dead links and have them formated using {{ cite web}}, so the only thing left to do is add them to the article. The match report links were originally embedded into the article; This is a style that may have been OK in the past, but is one that is no longer considered acceptable per Wikipedia's guidelines on citing sources. I am not suggesting that the templates be scrapped; I am only suggesting that the embedded links be converted to footnotes. The working of the template will not be affected (as far as I can tell) and the only difference will be as to how the links appear in the article: Instead of appearing as " Report", they will appear as "Report[1]". Using citation templates will also allow more information about the source to be provided besides its url. I am not asking others to stop whatever they are doing and help me do any of this. I realize it's an old article, but old articles are typically where links go dead and I think its better to repair the dead links per WP:DEADREF than simply leave things as is or just adding {{ dead link}}. Normally, I would discuss something like this on the article's talk page, but since the same problem affects other individual season articles and since it is involving a template, I thought I'd ask for input here. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly ( talk) 13:48, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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Marchjuly: I wouldn't move away from using |report=
to hold the reference. Logically, that is the reference parameter, and attaching the ref specifically to the score carries an implication (to me, anyway) that all it's sourcing is the score, not the whole row. And if it stays in the position where the word "Report" normally goes, below the score, then visually it'll be only a minimal change from the expected format. So, using |report=<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.a-league.com.au |title=Ref title |publisher=A-League |accessdate=19 May 2015}}</ref>
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cheers, Struway2 ( talk) 08:40, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
References
|report=
entry is only visible to the reader if there's something added for it. My guess is embedding links was considered standard back when the template was created, so having a report entry for the infobox seemed perfectly logical at the time because you could embed a link and call it "Report". Embedded links, however, have been deprecated, so a report entry does not seem to be as essential as it once was and putting the footnote after the score is better in my opinion, at least better than simply trying to fill up the parameter with a bare footnote marker or by "Report"[1]. For reference, the entries for |attendance=
and |referee=
are not filled in for each match and infoboxes often have entries that are left blank. Once again, the only way a reader would know that there could be a "report" entry would be if they looked at the edit page markup. Anyway, I've just repaired the dead links for Rd. 1 so that others can see and assess, but I think "score"[1] would be better here. -
Marchjuly (
talk)
06:59, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Is anyone interested in creating a task force for the CONCACAF? We would need a few willing members to help build the page and make articles for it. I'm gonna begin making templates and the layout for it soon in my sandbox as well. So what do you guys think? Da Drewster ( talk) 05:24, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
The link to "summary" just below the score of the 1966/67 League Cup final between QPR and WBA is a link to a betting website. There is no summary of the match as the link suggests. If there was a true original link to a match summary, it has been invaded by a commercial interest or a company is just adding "pretend" summary links. Please could someone with Wikipedia oversight privileges look into this abuse. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.202.129 ( talk) 12:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
A page for this club was created around a year ago, and it was rightly deleted as at that time it wasn't notable - having never played in a national competition or at Step 6 of the National League System.
The club has recently won promotion to the Northern Counties East League, and playing at this level has usually been enough to show notability, so I re-created a page for the club this week.
However, a deletion tag was soon placed on it based on the previous deletion argument and, despite my contest, the page has been deleted for a second time.
The user here seems convinced that Hull United A.F.C. have to play in a national cup competition to be eligible for a Wikipedia page, and won't accept that playing at Step 6 also confers notability, as shown here. I would appreciate it if someone could enter the debate and help get this page undeleted. Kivo ( talk) 12:38, 24 May 2015 (UTC)