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Hello all. I am trying to unravel a mystery, and any help among soft drink buffs around here would be greatly appreciated. The issue relates to the article Ambler's Texaco Gas Station and its mention of "tiny Coke bottles" being included on the interior as part of a restoration to the 1940s era. What is the significance of tiny Coke bottles, other than their being tiny. Is this just a case of journalistic embellishment in the source, or is there something I should know about tiny Coke bottles? Thanks ahead of time. IvoShandor 17:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I was about 8 when it came out and I still remember it as one of the first movies I ever saw in the theater, the scene where they are in jail and talk about Shandor especially so. :) Thanks for the reply, you wouldn't have a link to a photo would you? I went to the station so I can compare them from memory, just so I know what they are talking about. Zuul ignored my request btw, still pissed off about my bizarre rituals intended to bring about the end of the world failing after WWI, can't say I blame him/her/it really. IvoShandor 18:38, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Wikipedia:Contents subpages (not by me).
This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. -- Quiddity 18:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
As I have been reading up on Wikipedia policies, I came across something that I had assumed was improper about many of our cuisine articles. For articles that are specifically about a country, the title of the articles should state XXX of France for example. So in the example of France, it should be Cuisine of France as the article is about the cuisine of that country and not "French" cuisine outside of France.
Please check the policy here, as such I think we may need to go through and change the articles because the articles are talking about cuisines of specific countries, such as
Korean cuisine,
Italian cuisine, etc. The articles that are about the cuisines outside of those countries are labeled as such for example
American Chinese cuisine. This is likely to cause some stress with some which is why I brought it here first and will then do so for the other projects that support these articles as well.--
Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC
06:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I see this as an alpha-omega issue- The Cuisine of France (Spain, Italy Swaziland) is about the history and evolution of the countries cooking styles and dishes. French Cuisine is how it is done outside of France. Sel de la Terre is good, but it is French style cuisine not the cuisine of France (that would be for you to tell Chris). Is the cooking of Chefs Yutaka Ishinabe and Hiroyuki Sakai the cuisine of France? No it is French inspired Japanese influenced cuisine. I went for Chinese when I was in Ireland (The article Cuisine of Ireland should never even see the light of day, and I am of Irish descent) and it was not Chinese food as I know it, it was good but, it was not what I would find in Chinatown here in Boston or in San Francisco either; probably not what I would find in Beijing either...
My opinion? Do one of both, xxxxx Cuisine and Cuisine of xxxx, explain how that particular style of cooking is modified in the various countries.
- Jeremy ( Jerem43 20:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC))
As much as I hate to suggest this, I believe that WikiProject Foodservice has all but been abandoned by everyone except myself and Jerem43. The other users have not made edits since either August or July and although I have revamped the main page, there has been no interest in the project and quite honestly I see no reason for it to exist separately from WikiProject Food and Drink and as Jerem43 and I were in agreement I thought I would make the proposal here properly before going ahead and disbanding the project, just in case there were any valid objections.-- Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 07:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
(waves as he passes through). As I've commented over on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Foodservice_taskforce I'd personally suggest that this would be better with a more international name, and more 'precise' focus, I suggest that it becomes the Restaurants Task Force or Project and fold the 'concepts' stuff back into the main Project. FlagSteward ( talk) 19:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I would like to ask a few of you to come over to the discussion page for the Chef article as I have put up a WP:RFC and we are having an issue with an edit between the titles Executive Chef and Chef de Cuisine. I won't explain it here as I think to properly make a decision you might want to read the thoughts from the source. Thanks for you time for any who come and check it out.-- Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 07:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I have an RFC up for Korean cuisine that is going unnoticed and would kindly request some of you to come over and give opinions on issues going on over there with edit waring and reverts on the topics of "dog meat consumption" and other issues. The edits have paused as I have asked for people to calm down a bit and let some opinions in other than the editors of note. I hate to bring in arbitration, so I would rather see some other people stop by first and give an opinion on the topics, thanks.-- Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 12:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
can be found here: List of misleading food names. I don't necessarily think that we need to fight to keep this or anything, but I did want to bring it up; as I say in the AfD, I suspect it might have been lost at sea because it's been totally unconnected to Wikiproject Food and drink. I think that an interesting article could definitely be gotten out of it, both using the list and creating a new page to discuss the various linguistic, social and cultural ways that foods become misleadingly named. I'm also completely ready to accept that I am prone to being insanely random after I've been up all night.
Do we want to go with something like this, or should I withdraw my vote? -- Thespian ( talk) 12:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I would ask that people take a look at this and comment on it. I am not looking for support and will be willing to accept what the consensus says should be done. the TFD entry
- Jeremy ( Jerem43 ( talk) 23:53, 20 November 2007 (UTC))
While closing the AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Albano, I noticed that it was linked in two articles: Sweet and sour calamari and Artichoke Crepe. Sweet and sour calamari sounds like it's served in multiple restaurants, but Artichoke Crepe sounds like it's really only a Chris Albano creation. Does anyone think that either of these two articles are notable enough to stand on their own? If not, maybe an AFD or PROD is in order. -- Elkman (Elkspeak) 17:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
There is a DRV discussion here related to the Japanese citrus category that may benefit from your input. Thanks. -- Jreferee t/ c 20:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I brought this up months ago, but the bot's owner was on a wikibreak. I've once again contacted Snowolf ( talk · contribs) to see about using Snowbot ( talk · contribs) to tag talk pages for food articles with the {{ WikiProject Food and drink}} banner. No one objected last time (although one person thought I was creating too much of an assessment workload already, just tagging pages by hand). I think that having more talk pages tagging with the Project banner will eventually help to alleviate the article assessment load as more people are aware of and attracted to the project. But I wanted to keep everyone abreast of my actions, just in case there's any controversy.
Thanks, GentlemanGhost ( talk) 02:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. Actually, a quick look at this indicates that I can probably do this (have I mentioned being a professional PHP programmer? Uhm. Yeah). It'd possibly take more time (approval and writing and such), but if we'd like to have one that just does food stuff (project tagging, stub tagging, collecting redlinks in the food articles to create a 'to be done' page, the newsletter dist., etc), and can be run by the people who participate in the project instead of externally, that could be done. -- Thespian ( talk) 08:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Has this idea gone anywhere of late with anybody?-- Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC ( talk) 18:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so I made a large suggestion on the talk page, and one or two people have made some changes to the page itself, but really, almost *nothing* has been done on this article this month. I'd propose a major rewrite this week and through the weekend to get back on track, but first, I'd like someone to look at my suggestions on types of restaurants.
Wednesday I'm mostly free right now, so I'll commit to do a complete rewrite of the text to bring it into encyclopedic format and Wikified standards. Anyone want to start looking up citations for all the stuff the article says but doesn't cite? -- Thespian ( talk) 10:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I prodded it, and the prod was removed. I think the article is atrocious, and totally not up to wikipedia (as well as a vio of Not a List and more). I'd like a second opinion, please; I really think it's non-notable, especially since it seems to just be a pile of lists put together to justify defining 'Food Street'. Opinions? -- Thespian ( talk) 11:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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Food and drink Project‑class | ||||||||||||||
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This is an archive of the Food and drink WikiProject talk page for April 2007-November 2007 |
Hello all. I am trying to unravel a mystery, and any help among soft drink buffs around here would be greatly appreciated. The issue relates to the article Ambler's Texaco Gas Station and its mention of "tiny Coke bottles" being included on the interior as part of a restoration to the 1940s era. What is the significance of tiny Coke bottles, other than their being tiny. Is this just a case of journalistic embellishment in the source, or is there something I should know about tiny Coke bottles? Thanks ahead of time. IvoShandor 17:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I was about 8 when it came out and I still remember it as one of the first movies I ever saw in the theater, the scene where they are in jail and talk about Shandor especially so. :) Thanks for the reply, you wouldn't have a link to a photo would you? I went to the station so I can compare them from memory, just so I know what they are talking about. Zuul ignored my request btw, still pissed off about my bizarre rituals intended to bring about the end of the world failing after WWI, can't say I blame him/her/it really. IvoShandor 18:38, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Wikipedia:Contents subpages (not by me).
This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. -- Quiddity 18:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
As I have been reading up on Wikipedia policies, I came across something that I had assumed was improper about many of our cuisine articles. For articles that are specifically about a country, the title of the articles should state XXX of France for example. So in the example of France, it should be Cuisine of France as the article is about the cuisine of that country and not "French" cuisine outside of France.
Please check the policy here, as such I think we may need to go through and change the articles because the articles are talking about cuisines of specific countries, such as
Korean cuisine,
Italian cuisine, etc. The articles that are about the cuisines outside of those countries are labeled as such for example
American Chinese cuisine. This is likely to cause some stress with some which is why I brought it here first and will then do so for the other projects that support these articles as well.--
Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC
06:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I see this as an alpha-omega issue- The Cuisine of France (Spain, Italy Swaziland) is about the history and evolution of the countries cooking styles and dishes. French Cuisine is how it is done outside of France. Sel de la Terre is good, but it is French style cuisine not the cuisine of France (that would be for you to tell Chris). Is the cooking of Chefs Yutaka Ishinabe and Hiroyuki Sakai the cuisine of France? No it is French inspired Japanese influenced cuisine. I went for Chinese when I was in Ireland (The article Cuisine of Ireland should never even see the light of day, and I am of Irish descent) and it was not Chinese food as I know it, it was good but, it was not what I would find in Chinatown here in Boston or in San Francisco either; probably not what I would find in Beijing either...
My opinion? Do one of both, xxxxx Cuisine and Cuisine of xxxx, explain how that particular style of cooking is modified in the various countries.
- Jeremy ( Jerem43 20:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC))
As much as I hate to suggest this, I believe that WikiProject Foodservice has all but been abandoned by everyone except myself and Jerem43. The other users have not made edits since either August or July and although I have revamped the main page, there has been no interest in the project and quite honestly I see no reason for it to exist separately from WikiProject Food and Drink and as Jerem43 and I were in agreement I thought I would make the proposal here properly before going ahead and disbanding the project, just in case there were any valid objections.-- Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 07:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
(waves as he passes through). As I've commented over on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Foodservice_taskforce I'd personally suggest that this would be better with a more international name, and more 'precise' focus, I suggest that it becomes the Restaurants Task Force or Project and fold the 'concepts' stuff back into the main Project. FlagSteward ( talk) 19:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I would like to ask a few of you to come over to the discussion page for the Chef article as I have put up a WP:RFC and we are having an issue with an edit between the titles Executive Chef and Chef de Cuisine. I won't explain it here as I think to properly make a decision you might want to read the thoughts from the source. Thanks for you time for any who come and check it out.-- Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 07:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I have an RFC up for Korean cuisine that is going unnoticed and would kindly request some of you to come over and give opinions on issues going on over there with edit waring and reverts on the topics of "dog meat consumption" and other issues. The edits have paused as I have asked for people to calm down a bit and let some opinions in other than the editors of note. I hate to bring in arbitration, so I would rather see some other people stop by first and give an opinion on the topics, thanks.-- Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 12:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
can be found here: List of misleading food names. I don't necessarily think that we need to fight to keep this or anything, but I did want to bring it up; as I say in the AfD, I suspect it might have been lost at sea because it's been totally unconnected to Wikiproject Food and drink. I think that an interesting article could definitely be gotten out of it, both using the list and creating a new page to discuss the various linguistic, social and cultural ways that foods become misleadingly named. I'm also completely ready to accept that I am prone to being insanely random after I've been up all night.
Do we want to go with something like this, or should I withdraw my vote? -- Thespian ( talk) 12:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I would ask that people take a look at this and comment on it. I am not looking for support and will be willing to accept what the consensus says should be done. the TFD entry
- Jeremy ( Jerem43 ( talk) 23:53, 20 November 2007 (UTC))
While closing the AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Albano, I noticed that it was linked in two articles: Sweet and sour calamari and Artichoke Crepe. Sweet and sour calamari sounds like it's served in multiple restaurants, but Artichoke Crepe sounds like it's really only a Chris Albano creation. Does anyone think that either of these two articles are notable enough to stand on their own? If not, maybe an AFD or PROD is in order. -- Elkman (Elkspeak) 17:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
There is a DRV discussion here related to the Japanese citrus category that may benefit from your input. Thanks. -- Jreferee t/ c 20:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I brought this up months ago, but the bot's owner was on a wikibreak. I've once again contacted Snowolf ( talk · contribs) to see about using Snowbot ( talk · contribs) to tag talk pages for food articles with the {{ WikiProject Food and drink}} banner. No one objected last time (although one person thought I was creating too much of an assessment workload already, just tagging pages by hand). I think that having more talk pages tagging with the Project banner will eventually help to alleviate the article assessment load as more people are aware of and attracted to the project. But I wanted to keep everyone abreast of my actions, just in case there's any controversy.
Thanks, GentlemanGhost ( talk) 02:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. Actually, a quick look at this indicates that I can probably do this (have I mentioned being a professional PHP programmer? Uhm. Yeah). It'd possibly take more time (approval and writing and such), but if we'd like to have one that just does food stuff (project tagging, stub tagging, collecting redlinks in the food articles to create a 'to be done' page, the newsletter dist., etc), and can be run by the people who participate in the project instead of externally, that could be done. -- Thespian ( talk) 08:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Has this idea gone anywhere of late with anybody?-- Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC ( talk) 18:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so I made a large suggestion on the talk page, and one or two people have made some changes to the page itself, but really, almost *nothing* has been done on this article this month. I'd propose a major rewrite this week and through the weekend to get back on track, but first, I'd like someone to look at my suggestions on types of restaurants.
Wednesday I'm mostly free right now, so I'll commit to do a complete rewrite of the text to bring it into encyclopedic format and Wikified standards. Anyone want to start looking up citations for all the stuff the article says but doesn't cite? -- Thespian ( talk) 10:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I prodded it, and the prod was removed. I think the article is atrocious, and totally not up to wikipedia (as well as a vio of Not a List and more). I'd like a second opinion, please; I really think it's non-notable, especially since it seems to just be a pile of lists put together to justify defining 'Food Street'. Opinions? -- Thespian ( talk) 11:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)