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It appears that WikiProject Films doesn't have it's own barnstar. I'd like to propose one, perhaps using File:Film Reel 4 by Bubbels.jpg as a template. Something similar with 5 points would work. I attempted to make one but the real isn't perfectly circular and my photoshop skills are lacking. Anyone care to take a shot at it? RichMac (Talk) 11:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
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... Do you think that looks good? But combine the Barnstar.jpg and Film reel together?
Cbrown1023 18:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The WikiProject Films Award | ||
I,
Cbrown1023, hereby award
RichMac the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to
WikiProject Films. Notably the suggestion of creation of this barnstar.
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Check it out at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Barnstar... make changes to it if you want. Cbrown1023 20:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks good to me. Nice job guys.-- Supernumerary 21:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
V for Vendetta (film) is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy ( Talk) 22:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I suggested in Talk:2005 in film creating a subpage named 2005 in film/Releases in North America and placing there all the "Wide release films" and "Other films" with all the specific information there and do the same to all the years where such sections have been created. Please, discuss. Hoverfish 00:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The WikiProject Films Award | ||
I, RichMac, hereby award
Cbrown1023 the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to
WikiProject Films. For hard work and dedication, categorizing, grading and sorting WikiProject Film articles. As well as guidance and insight on WikiProject Films talk.
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The origional reason I was looking for a WikiProjects Film Barstar ;)
RichMac
(Talk) 10:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Here is a barnstar to the people who helped assess:
The WikiProject Films Award | ||
I,
Cbrown1023, hereby award
all the users who helped assess all those articles the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to
WikiProject Films. Sorry this turned out as a red link...
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P.S. In the future, this, like all other barnstars, will be given to the user in question on their user or user talk page. Cbrown1023 15:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I have started a work-list (here) of links given as references to films, but which lead to articles where the film is either barely mentioned or has too little coverage to be considered a legitimate link to the film. Please, help to determine what should be done in each case. Hoverfish 18:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Julia Stiles is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy ( Talk) 21:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi, I've started a discussion [1] on the Infobox template talk page. Any comments will be very appreciated. Mallanox 03:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not only red again, but now the page also appears empty (last time it was red but most of the contents were there). Glitch again? Hoverfish 09:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
In the IMDb, Bloody Sunday (TV drama) is a film which premiered in TV and therefore lost its right to be nominated for Oscar. Does this make it a "TV drama"? Bloody Sunday (film), by the way, redirects to it. Hoverfish 18:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I have created a userbox for regular participants in the COTW. Please critique it and put it on your user page (if applicable) using {{ User Cinema COTW}}. Cbrown1023 22:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
...I'm hoping this might be a good place for some help. Here's the deal: I know that The Best is Yet to Come (film) exists. The problem is that I cannot find a damn thing about it other than the one newspaper article I have from 55 years ago regarding its production. I don't know if you folks know where films hide that don't show up on IMDb, or have any other pointers, or can expand it, but any help I can get on this one would be great. Thanks in advance. -- badlydrawnjeff talk 01:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd look at hard reference material (ie books), especially the ones already mentioned in the article about the producer. Girolamo Savonarola 03:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I've bot-populated this from three stub categories (the film-stub root, the horrors, and the comedies); there's currently about 150 in there. (I'm just using the 'raw' category, though I'd tend to agree with the above discussion that there's no reason why a populating template shouldn't be re-introduced.) Alai 01:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
If a soundtrack guideline exists I think it should be added to the style guideline. I would be nice to have just one format. I know I should be bold and do it myself, but I don't have the time right now. If no one does it, I'll have time in two weeks. Until then suggestions and information would be helpful for whoever does it. Pro bug catcher 21:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I've created that page and put in some new stuff (based off WP:WPBIO). Check it out and please do anything you can to make it better. Cbrown1023 00:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Could probably be split into two articles. When I happened upon it, it was focusing on an unofficially announced movie announced only through an insert in a video game and didnt even begin to discuss the film currently in post production and being screened to focus audiences. but it will eventually need to be split, i think. 216.165.38.230 03:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
The November 2006 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Cbrown1023 23:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I propose a Category:Heist pictures, to highlight films that have a bank robbery or other similar activity as a main theme of a film, i.e., Heist, Inside Man, Thief, Loophole, etc. Ideally, the category page would contain a list of the films so categorized, updated automatically when the category template is added to a film's article. Thoughts? Alan 03:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I was wandering around the categories section to see what categories I have, and realized that almost none of the film-related categories have our tag on their discussion page- I mean our WikiProject film tag with the class rating. The class rating is pretty easy to do, since they're all categories- since there are hundreds of these categories, I thought I'd alert people to this lack of tagging in the hopes of getting aid in tagging them. The task is a little daunting, I must say. - Elizabennet 03:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
See you there,
Ultrogothe 10:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Just a heads up that the discussion at [3] for the proposed Overcategorization guidelines has a talk section dealing specifically with how to handle actor-by-film and actor-by-tv-series categories. The goal would be to form a consistent policy guideline for which actor-by-series categories are acceptable, which aren't, and generally help editors decide when to use a category for cast lists and when to use a list article.
If you're interested in this topic, head on over to that discussion page and give your two cents. :) Dugwiki 17:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I would like to establish better guidelines for plot summary length. To me, 910 words is a plot outline, not summary. Here's featured fiction film article plot summary word counts for comparison:
Article | Running time (min) |
Word count |
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Blade Runner | 115 | 413 |
Casablanca | 102 | 708 |
Dog Day Afternoon | 124 | 630 |
Gremlins | 106 | 842 |
Gremlins 2: The New Batch | 106 | 547 |
Halloween | 91 | 484 |
Halloween II | 92 | 389 |
Halloween III: Season of the Witch | 96 | 487 |
Jaws | 124 | 941 |
Night of the Living Dead | 96 | 937 |
November | 73 | 499 |
Ran | 160 | 865 |
Richard III | 161 | 639 |
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace | 133 | 840 |
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones | 142 | 863 |
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith | 140 | 989 |
Summer of '42 | 103 | 1282 |
Sunset Boulevard | 110 | 584 |
Tenebrae | 101 | 599 |
V for Vendetta | 132 | 945 |
Witchfinder General | 87 | 571 |
Based on this research, I believe the plot summary for the average feature length picture (to about 130 minutes) should be around 600 words. There seems to be a break at that point (notice there is are no summaries between 708 and 840 words) where we move into "blow-by-blow" style summaries. Any thoughts? – flamurai ( t) 23:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I was just thinking: Is there any way to make a little "FilmInfoboxNeeded" tag to put at the top of applicable pages? Sort of like the stub tag, but about needing an infobox. Do y'all think this would be necessary and/or helpful? The same thing could be applied for "SynopsisNeeded". It could tag it as part of the category, and then it would make a list to easily find which ones need the info. - Elizabennet 01:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
It'd be in the Category:Articles in need of a film infobox (or something like that). - Elizabennet 03:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
OR:
Where do these tags go - on the article or the talk page? — Wise Kwai 17:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, it took me two hours, but all of the previous {{infoboxneed|infobox film}} templates have been switched over to {{needs film infobox}}. However, the category does not divide the films by letter, so if someone knows how to do that, please fix it.-- Nehrams2020 09:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
End note: The new tags were created at {{ needs film infobox}} and {{ film needs synopsis}}, with according category listings. - Elizabennet 15:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I have created a listing of our featured and GA article accessable at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Assessment#Distinguised items. Where do you think is the best place to put this list? In Assessment (where it is), in Style, in some other Department (as seen in the sidebar), or in a new department, like Spotlight? Cbrown1023 01:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Are any participants able to help me make this into a good article?? I would appreciate the help if anyone is able to. -- SunStar Net 01:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello to the wikiproject film editors. Recently an editor changed the series of ducunentaires by Michael apted that began with Seven Up! to the Up Series. Unfortunately they did a cut and paste rather than an actual move, thus losing the edit history. I do not know how to fix this situation so I am coming to you in the hope that you can correct this as well as letting the editor know what they did wrong so they won't make this mistake in the future. Of course, no redirects were fixed either so that kay need to be looked into also. Thanks ahead of time for your help. MarnetteD | Talk 18:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Most blockbusters today rely on special effects. I'd like to see in the infobox, even for a tiny credit like 'ILM', or even listing supervisors. Wiki-newbie 19:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm putting together the navigation pages for Version 0.5 (a soon-to-be-released test CD release of about 2000 Wikipedia articles). Note- the format on the Version 0.5 is to be changed. We have always found films hard to classify - should they go under Arts along with paintings, or under Language & Literature along with plays/theatre (as I am doing currently), or under Media (under "Society") (by association with TV & newspapers)? Personally I think the Theatre connection is strongest, and this is clearly seen if you want to include actors/actresses in the same section, which seems sensible to me. I even think TV articles should go there, because good TV is often like theatre & literature, and is often closely linked to film (as with Star Trek). But I'm not an expert on this - where do you think Films should go? (Note - I will include links that say, "For film listings see XXX"). Thanks, Walkerma 05:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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User:Calton has tagged dozens of "Lists of <country> films" for afd; his stated judgment is that "Wikipedia is not IMDb lite." Will you folks please pitch in and save these lists, which seem to be both useful and encyclopedic? See the afd discussion here. Thanks - Her Pegship 06:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
his stated judgment is that "Wikipedia is not IMDb lite."
That's because Wikipedia -- you know, an encyclopedia -- isn't IMDB Lite, i.e., a directory or text dump. Copying pages of lists from IMDB and vomiting them up onto Wikipedia isn't the least bit useful or encyclopedic, nor would creating directory listings of everything ever put on celluloid, as User:Ernst Stavros Blofeld, for one, seems intent on doing. The very point of a general-knowledge encyclopedia is as a digest or highlighting of an almost infinite body of human knowledge. -- Calton | Talk 08:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
As I keep saying I do not intend to start articles on every film. Many. many films are not notable at all. Why do you keep saying this. I am attempting to set out a basis to which to provide infomration on global film. Most are actually notable and need full articles which provide information. I am attempting to make wikipedia globaly covered in detail rather than Anglo American what is wrong with this? I think the lists are encyclopedic in themsevles as they provide info of country film cutlrue and expand from the main Cinema of ... page. I agree that all of the year lists should be redirected to categories which I have done already. All of the continent categories should be kept because they list several fuilms which each country has produced which wil;l probably never be notable enough for an article and a category. They also serve to tie in with continent culture and are part of Cinema of Asia Cinema of Africa etc.
If there are no opbjections in due course I will be drawing up very useful navigation boxes for Films by genre (redirecting to categories), films by language (redirect mostly to categories and maybe the new lists which some should be kept), Actors by nationality, Film directors by nationality connecting to categories of both so new lists will NOT be created. I will also attelpt to do the same in the world of global television with yearsd in telelvision countries in telelvision programmmes, tellevision actors and directors by nationality to ensure global telelvision is covered too? Each box will be managable and concise and will attempt to comprehend film and telelvision as global rather than purely American . Who thinks this is a good idea? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:29, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Do categories such as Category:Species films really need to exist? It's overcategorizing in my opinion. In most film articles that have sequels: there is the preceded by/followed by note in the info box. As well as the see also section which lists sequels of the movie. I can understand the category if it's a big series: such as Star Wars, Star Trek, James Bond and so on... but for some small series I think it's just overcategorizing. Just because one film series is set up a certain way, doesn't necessarily mean all should be in my opinion. RobJ1981 19:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
This editor is creating 'this day in film' articles. Laudable, but each article consists of just one event, which isn't very illuminating. I've suggested he does one day at a time and lists lot's of events, rather than doing lots of days with one event. Additional help/input is probably a good idea. exolon 02:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I Not Stupid is a Singaporean film written and directed by Jack Neo. It is the all-time third-highest grossing movie in Singapore. This satirical comedy prompted the Singapore government to make changes to the education system.
For several months, I have been working on this article. After several concerns are addressed, I Not Stupid should be ready for a Good Article nomination.
I need the following questions answered before I can address the concerns:
Singaporean members of this WikiProject should consider collaborating with me to improve I Not Stupid to GA status, and to improve articles on other Jack Neo movies.
-- J.L.W.S. The Special One 12:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Included here should be a history of the film's background and development, such as how many studios, actors, directors and writers were involved with the project at one point or another. Continuing onto the production of the film, facts such as filming dates, budget figures, any noteworthy tidbits (such as delays, reshoots etc.) should be transformed into prose. Comments from the cast and crew are also welcomed.
There has been a current debate over the last few days of several of User: Ernst Stavro Blofeld's contributions to the WP:Film. He has begun creating muliple new lists featuring lists of films by year (ex: List of 1896 films, in comparision to the original 1896 in film with the list of films though not featured on the page and linking from it as expansion anyway), a list of films by country (ex: List of Finnish films, currently up for AFD for being too broad and possible copyright problems), and two new templates ({{ filmsbyyear}} & {{ Filmsbycountry}}). Although he is working with the best of intentions to attempt to improve the project, and was bold in creating these lists/templates, there needs to be some debate on whether they are necessary or need to be more discriminate. There is current discussion about the country lists at the AFD here and about the years in film in AFD here several user pages including: his, Hoverfish, and Cbrown1023. Instead of attempting to solve this around the project, Hoverfish and myself thought that it would be better if it was brought to the attention of WP:Films to be discussed by all members, in hopes of finding a swift and beneficial solution. Please discuss if these lists or templates should be deleted, remain, merged, or some alternate solution. -- Nehrams2020 19:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Thankyou to all and I emphasise again I appreciate everyones contribution to this. THis is a major task and I like everyone involved wants it to be done properly. Rather than creating new confusing lists redirects to cateogories will be made the templates definately kept and can be used even in the categories as a quick movement aroung global film. What I wanted was to be able to view a list of films made in a certain year or country at a click which wasn;t really present beofr ethe boxes but can see is really there already in the cateogries just needs full expansion. However as I am gradually adding films I would be very pleased if temporary lists of films i wuld like to add could be listed behind the mainspace in our Wikiproject. E.g for Finnish film films beginning with b list them and add them to wikipedia then delete the list then add the missing c film complete delete list like this. E.g Wikipedia:WikiProject:List of Finnish films when completed then add a new missing list and add the films to wikipedia etc. But the idea is to add films that are worthy - contray to what User:Calton I don't just want to add a totally unnotable film for the sake of it. I gneeuingly believe most films are of some information value and I will not create articles if I believe they cannot be expanded or are dodgy in any way. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 23:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I propose that changes are made to List of films by country and even date. Rather than delete them I think each country should have the list of notbale films in order by year of release rather than an A-Z that the categories will eventually create anyway. This is far more useful which I believe Thai films and that have already done. Alos the format could be changed to a box With year and date of release in chronoligcal order and director of film by country. I notcied debate over the dates of film releases. If lists were drawn up of films by year then the same could eventually be done, from Januray 1st to december the 31st by year. This will not only be an expansion of the main pages e.g 1947 in film and Cinema of .... but will give more specific infomration about date of release in chronological order.
Note that years in film neither give a full list of notable films nor specific details of date of release which the lists as new parts of these pages could accomplish. The lists would be parts of the years in film pages Surely then this cannot be disregarded as non-encyclopedic? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Update: All further work on the new country lists has been moved under Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List of films without article namespace. Hoverfish 21:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Presently I am compiling a list of Bulgartian films because there are none in the category. THis is for information purpoese. However I have started with A researching each one and I have found many unotable which have been removed e.g short documentaries and 8 minute cartoons etc. In the end we will have a narrowed down list of missing notable Bulgarian films which can be added to wikipedia. However with other country lists I have no objection if you rather let me compile them behind the mainspace e.g List of Austrian films. Once again lists will be added and then researched removing the non notablre articles again with a list of full missing films for the country to add to wikipedia. Please trust me on this one. The Bulgarian films are being compiled in the mainspace for temporary encylopedic reasons. If somebody wnatede a list of bulgarian films there would at present have only been one or two films See Category:Bulgarian films.
I propose a major new organization of missing wikipedia films by country and date Starting with Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing Argentine films Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing Austrian films
This way lists can be accessed from imdb or british film instute but again can be researched so that a finely tuned list of missing films by country will be created chucking out the non notable films. THis will be gradual though so we can manage existing red links in relation to the entire Wikiproject. E.g I am willing to work on one country at a time rather than going ahead creating red links.
I also propose a major change in films by year. I believe in the same way lists can be compiled on different Wikiproject pages by e.g
Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing 1896 films Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing 1897 films Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing 1898 films
etc. Again full lists can be compiled but then researched to remove the titles which are not notable leaving really worthy articles which may be created. The process of researching each year and country could be gradual but I fell this way be make sure that every film of notablity is covered with the crap removed by inital research. Then once these articles are created fully then of course we will automatically have a finely tuned list of films by every year and country which are not only lists but actually provide information on every one which is what my goal on wikipedia is all about. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Then once every year list or country list is finely tuned to notablity then they could be adeed to the main Missing notable articles page organized by country or date in a new section or whatever. Of ocurse I would love to here everyones opinion on this before going ahead as I respect all of you film wikipedians greatly for the immense work and organization already done on wikipedia. Everyone should be very proud of their achievments so far. A major well done. I believe my new process of research could be very imporant in creating an ultimate list of missing notable films but I wouldn't be happy if i thought people were not happy with my ideas. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
This way many different wikipedians could concentrate on different areas with one working on adding missing 1896 films to wikipedia another 1897 films another adding missing Argentine films another missing brazilian films etc. This whole idea would be a further expansion of missing notable films from wikiproject Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
See List of Bulgarian films: A. List has been narrowed down to notable films. -first notable film started for Bulgaria A byahme mladi. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I propose that changes are made to List of films by country. Rather than delete them I think each country should have the list of notbale films in order by year of release rather than an A-Z that the categories will eventually create anyway. This is far more useful which I believe Thai films and that have already done. Alos the format could be changed to a box With year and date of release in chronoligcal order and director of film by country. I notcied debate over the dates of film releases. If lists were drawn up of films by year then the same could eventually be done, from Januray 1st to december the 31st by year. This will not only be an expansion of the main pages e.g 1947 in film and Cinema of .... but will give more specific infomration about date of release in chronological order. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
If redirects will be too much of a strain on the system I won't do them its just wikipedia has thousands of new visitors every day and List of ... films is far more probable than Category: which they wouldn't know about. If the redirects weren't there you would type in List of 1947 films and it would seemingly not be there. Iknow the access is on lists of films which people will go to. The new navigation boxes then will just go directly to categories. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:03, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Seattle International Film Festival#Golden Space Needle winners has enough redlinks to keep someone quite busy creating worthy articles. - Jmabel | Talk 21:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Until now I have concentrated on Film Festival awards to compile notable films. There is also the Significant Critics' awards, up top in List of film awards. Shouldn't these films be considered notable too? Hoverfish 18:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC) - And what about Industry awards? Hoverfish 18:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I struggle to see the point of this, but if it's really necessary, can this please be renamed to Category:Template-Class film pages? Or better, to Category:film templates, or merged into Category:film non-articles? (Or best of all, get rid of it entirely.) Alai 22:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I have a question on the naming guidelines of a film. The upcoming film Home of the Brave (2007 film), is set to release on limited release on December 15, 2006 and wide release on January 5, 2007. Should the film remain as (2007 film) or return to (2006 film) to include the limited release of the film? Just want to know so I can fix some redirects and determine if there is an established guideline for future similar cases.-- Nehrams2020 19:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I say also 2006. I always correct dates to original release. Hoverfish 19:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
To give some coherency to the many little sf-oriented communities on Wikipedia.-- ragesoss 20:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I just received your Wiki-film invitation. I am glad to be a part of it, though my time is limited. I am Roger, and a film historian. I wanted to ask your assistance on an article that has been bothering me since I first joined Wikipedia American Mutoscope and Biograph Company. I was starting my volunteer editing for enjoyment and contributions. starting in the silent era. I ran across this article on this company that had been completely over "Cited" with conflicting information. I did my research and found out that even in the discussion of the article there were heated arguments that were utterly ridiculous. This company was an old film company that seemingly went out of business in 1928. In the 80's it was said to have been revived by a man who was in the Little Rascals and his son. As I perused the discussion page I was astonished. The people from new company were defensive, but the volunteer editors were to the point of verbally abusive. One of the statements was that they wanted to destroy the creditability of the company. I tried in vain to edit and correct, but my corrections were reverted and I was no less than harassed. I was even verbally attacked accusing me of being part of said company. I then went to other silent film articles, and discovered that "None" were scrutinized, and over cited as excessively as this article. Since the administrators did not assist at all I reluctantly gave up on much of my Wikipedia involvement, and now have a "Bad Taste" in my mouth for Wikipedia period. I am a suido film historian, and do the lecture circuit quite often. I am very busy and have alot of associates that are in my field as well as financers. After hearing of this plight, the word has gone out not to donate nor support Wikipedia. They have also reviewed this article. Hopefully if this and other discrepancies are corrected with this and other articles, then things may be different. I bring this to your attention because Wikipedia is a wonderful idea handled in the proper manner, and not used as a "Battlefield". Please let me know if you or the our asssociates at Wiki-film can help.
-- Roger the red 20:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
May I please ask for anyone interested to visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Wicker_Man#Move_to_The_Wicker_Man_.281973_film.29_.3F where there is a discussion about what to call the article. There are opposing viewpoints but not enough to achieve consensus. Any opinions are welcome. Mallanox 23:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Australian film Deadly (stub) happens to have a talk page redirecting to another film, apparently not Australian. Can someone please help sort this out? Hoverfish 16:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't figure out how it got there. Thanks for fixing and explaining. Hoverfish 17:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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It appears that WikiProject Films doesn't have it's own barnstar. I'd like to propose one, perhaps using File:Film Reel 4 by Bubbels.jpg as a template. Something similar with 5 points would work. I attempted to make one but the real isn't perfectly circular and my photoshop skills are lacking. Anyone care to take a shot at it? RichMac (Talk) 11:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The WikiProject Films Award | ||
I, {{{yourname}}}, hereby award [[User:{{{theirname}}}|{{{theirname}}}]] the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to
WikiProject Films. {{{extra}}}
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... Do you think that looks good? But combine the Barnstar.jpg and Film reel together?
Cbrown1023 18:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The WikiProject Films Award | ||
I,
Cbrown1023, hereby award
RichMac the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to
WikiProject Films. Notably the suggestion of creation of this barnstar.
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Check it out at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Barnstar... make changes to it if you want. Cbrown1023 20:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks good to me. Nice job guys.-- Supernumerary 21:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
V for Vendetta (film) is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy ( Talk) 22:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I suggested in Talk:2005 in film creating a subpage named 2005 in film/Releases in North America and placing there all the "Wide release films" and "Other films" with all the specific information there and do the same to all the years where such sections have been created. Please, discuss. Hoverfish 00:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The WikiProject Films Award | ||
I, RichMac, hereby award
Cbrown1023 the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to
WikiProject Films. For hard work and dedication, categorizing, grading and sorting WikiProject Film articles. As well as guidance and insight on WikiProject Films talk.
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The origional reason I was looking for a WikiProjects Film Barstar ;)
RichMac
(Talk) 10:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Here is a barnstar to the people who helped assess:
The WikiProject Films Award | ||
I,
Cbrown1023, hereby award
all the users who helped assess all those articles the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to
WikiProject Films. Sorry this turned out as a red link...
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P.S. In the future, this, like all other barnstars, will be given to the user in question on their user or user talk page. Cbrown1023 15:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I have started a work-list (here) of links given as references to films, but which lead to articles where the film is either barely mentioned or has too little coverage to be considered a legitimate link to the film. Please, help to determine what should be done in each case. Hoverfish 18:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Julia Stiles is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy ( Talk) 21:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi, I've started a discussion [1] on the Infobox template talk page. Any comments will be very appreciated. Mallanox 03:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not only red again, but now the page also appears empty (last time it was red but most of the contents were there). Glitch again? Hoverfish 09:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
In the IMDb, Bloody Sunday (TV drama) is a film which premiered in TV and therefore lost its right to be nominated for Oscar. Does this make it a "TV drama"? Bloody Sunday (film), by the way, redirects to it. Hoverfish 18:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I have created a userbox for regular participants in the COTW. Please critique it and put it on your user page (if applicable) using {{ User Cinema COTW}}. Cbrown1023 22:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
...I'm hoping this might be a good place for some help. Here's the deal: I know that The Best is Yet to Come (film) exists. The problem is that I cannot find a damn thing about it other than the one newspaper article I have from 55 years ago regarding its production. I don't know if you folks know where films hide that don't show up on IMDb, or have any other pointers, or can expand it, but any help I can get on this one would be great. Thanks in advance. -- badlydrawnjeff talk 01:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd look at hard reference material (ie books), especially the ones already mentioned in the article about the producer. Girolamo Savonarola 03:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I've bot-populated this from three stub categories (the film-stub root, the horrors, and the comedies); there's currently about 150 in there. (I'm just using the 'raw' category, though I'd tend to agree with the above discussion that there's no reason why a populating template shouldn't be re-introduced.) Alai 01:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
If a soundtrack guideline exists I think it should be added to the style guideline. I would be nice to have just one format. I know I should be bold and do it myself, but I don't have the time right now. If no one does it, I'll have time in two weeks. Until then suggestions and information would be helpful for whoever does it. Pro bug catcher 21:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I've created that page and put in some new stuff (based off WP:WPBIO). Check it out and please do anything you can to make it better. Cbrown1023 00:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Could probably be split into two articles. When I happened upon it, it was focusing on an unofficially announced movie announced only through an insert in a video game and didnt even begin to discuss the film currently in post production and being screened to focus audiences. but it will eventually need to be split, i think. 216.165.38.230 03:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
The November 2006 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Cbrown1023 23:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I propose a Category:Heist pictures, to highlight films that have a bank robbery or other similar activity as a main theme of a film, i.e., Heist, Inside Man, Thief, Loophole, etc. Ideally, the category page would contain a list of the films so categorized, updated automatically when the category template is added to a film's article. Thoughts? Alan 03:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I was wandering around the categories section to see what categories I have, and realized that almost none of the film-related categories have our tag on their discussion page- I mean our WikiProject film tag with the class rating. The class rating is pretty easy to do, since they're all categories- since there are hundreds of these categories, I thought I'd alert people to this lack of tagging in the hopes of getting aid in tagging them. The task is a little daunting, I must say. - Elizabennet 03:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
See you there,
Ultrogothe 10:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Just a heads up that the discussion at [3] for the proposed Overcategorization guidelines has a talk section dealing specifically with how to handle actor-by-film and actor-by-tv-series categories. The goal would be to form a consistent policy guideline for which actor-by-series categories are acceptable, which aren't, and generally help editors decide when to use a category for cast lists and when to use a list article.
If you're interested in this topic, head on over to that discussion page and give your two cents. :) Dugwiki 17:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I would like to establish better guidelines for plot summary length. To me, 910 words is a plot outline, not summary. Here's featured fiction film article plot summary word counts for comparison:
Article | Running time (min) |
Word count |
---|---|---|
Blade Runner | 115 | 413 |
Casablanca | 102 | 708 |
Dog Day Afternoon | 124 | 630 |
Gremlins | 106 | 842 |
Gremlins 2: The New Batch | 106 | 547 |
Halloween | 91 | 484 |
Halloween II | 92 | 389 |
Halloween III: Season of the Witch | 96 | 487 |
Jaws | 124 | 941 |
Night of the Living Dead | 96 | 937 |
November | 73 | 499 |
Ran | 160 | 865 |
Richard III | 161 | 639 |
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace | 133 | 840 |
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones | 142 | 863 |
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith | 140 | 989 |
Summer of '42 | 103 | 1282 |
Sunset Boulevard | 110 | 584 |
Tenebrae | 101 | 599 |
V for Vendetta | 132 | 945 |
Witchfinder General | 87 | 571 |
Based on this research, I believe the plot summary for the average feature length picture (to about 130 minutes) should be around 600 words. There seems to be a break at that point (notice there is are no summaries between 708 and 840 words) where we move into "blow-by-blow" style summaries. Any thoughts? – flamurai ( t) 23:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I was just thinking: Is there any way to make a little "FilmInfoboxNeeded" tag to put at the top of applicable pages? Sort of like the stub tag, but about needing an infobox. Do y'all think this would be necessary and/or helpful? The same thing could be applied for "SynopsisNeeded". It could tag it as part of the category, and then it would make a list to easily find which ones need the info. - Elizabennet 01:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
It'd be in the Category:Articles in need of a film infobox (or something like that). - Elizabennet 03:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
OR:
Where do these tags go - on the article or the talk page? — Wise Kwai 17:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, it took me two hours, but all of the previous {{infoboxneed|infobox film}} templates have been switched over to {{needs film infobox}}. However, the category does not divide the films by letter, so if someone knows how to do that, please fix it.-- Nehrams2020 09:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
End note: The new tags were created at {{ needs film infobox}} and {{ film needs synopsis}}, with according category listings. - Elizabennet 15:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I have created a listing of our featured and GA article accessable at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Assessment#Distinguised items. Where do you think is the best place to put this list? In Assessment (where it is), in Style, in some other Department (as seen in the sidebar), or in a new department, like Spotlight? Cbrown1023 01:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Are any participants able to help me make this into a good article?? I would appreciate the help if anyone is able to. -- SunStar Net 01:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello to the wikiproject film editors. Recently an editor changed the series of ducunentaires by Michael apted that began with Seven Up! to the Up Series. Unfortunately they did a cut and paste rather than an actual move, thus losing the edit history. I do not know how to fix this situation so I am coming to you in the hope that you can correct this as well as letting the editor know what they did wrong so they won't make this mistake in the future. Of course, no redirects were fixed either so that kay need to be looked into also. Thanks ahead of time for your help. MarnetteD | Talk 18:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Most blockbusters today rely on special effects. I'd like to see in the infobox, even for a tiny credit like 'ILM', or even listing supervisors. Wiki-newbie 19:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm putting together the navigation pages for Version 0.5 (a soon-to-be-released test CD release of about 2000 Wikipedia articles). Note- the format on the Version 0.5 is to be changed. We have always found films hard to classify - should they go under Arts along with paintings, or under Language & Literature along with plays/theatre (as I am doing currently), or under Media (under "Society") (by association with TV & newspapers)? Personally I think the Theatre connection is strongest, and this is clearly seen if you want to include actors/actresses in the same section, which seems sensible to me. I even think TV articles should go there, because good TV is often like theatre & literature, and is often closely linked to film (as with Star Trek). But I'm not an expert on this - where do you think Films should go? (Note - I will include links that say, "For film listings see XXX"). Thanks, Walkerma 05:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Superman has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" from featured status. The instructions for the FAR process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Sandy ( Talk) 22:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Calton has tagged dozens of "Lists of <country> films" for afd; his stated judgment is that "Wikipedia is not IMDb lite." Will you folks please pitch in and save these lists, which seem to be both useful and encyclopedic? See the afd discussion here. Thanks - Her Pegship 06:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
his stated judgment is that "Wikipedia is not IMDb lite."
That's because Wikipedia -- you know, an encyclopedia -- isn't IMDB Lite, i.e., a directory or text dump. Copying pages of lists from IMDB and vomiting them up onto Wikipedia isn't the least bit useful or encyclopedic, nor would creating directory listings of everything ever put on celluloid, as User:Ernst Stavros Blofeld, for one, seems intent on doing. The very point of a general-knowledge encyclopedia is as a digest or highlighting of an almost infinite body of human knowledge. -- Calton | Talk 08:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
As I keep saying I do not intend to start articles on every film. Many. many films are not notable at all. Why do you keep saying this. I am attempting to set out a basis to which to provide infomration on global film. Most are actually notable and need full articles which provide information. I am attempting to make wikipedia globaly covered in detail rather than Anglo American what is wrong with this? I think the lists are encyclopedic in themsevles as they provide info of country film cutlrue and expand from the main Cinema of ... page. I agree that all of the year lists should be redirected to categories which I have done already. All of the continent categories should be kept because they list several fuilms which each country has produced which wil;l probably never be notable enough for an article and a category. They also serve to tie in with continent culture and are part of Cinema of Asia Cinema of Africa etc.
If there are no opbjections in due course I will be drawing up very useful navigation boxes for Films by genre (redirecting to categories), films by language (redirect mostly to categories and maybe the new lists which some should be kept), Actors by nationality, Film directors by nationality connecting to categories of both so new lists will NOT be created. I will also attelpt to do the same in the world of global television with yearsd in telelvision countries in telelvision programmmes, tellevision actors and directors by nationality to ensure global telelvision is covered too? Each box will be managable and concise and will attempt to comprehend film and telelvision as global rather than purely American . Who thinks this is a good idea? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:29, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Do categories such as Category:Species films really need to exist? It's overcategorizing in my opinion. In most film articles that have sequels: there is the preceded by/followed by note in the info box. As well as the see also section which lists sequels of the movie. I can understand the category if it's a big series: such as Star Wars, Star Trek, James Bond and so on... but for some small series I think it's just overcategorizing. Just because one film series is set up a certain way, doesn't necessarily mean all should be in my opinion. RobJ1981 19:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
This editor is creating 'this day in film' articles. Laudable, but each article consists of just one event, which isn't very illuminating. I've suggested he does one day at a time and lists lot's of events, rather than doing lots of days with one event. Additional help/input is probably a good idea. exolon 02:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I Not Stupid is a Singaporean film written and directed by Jack Neo. It is the all-time third-highest grossing movie in Singapore. This satirical comedy prompted the Singapore government to make changes to the education system.
For several months, I have been working on this article. After several concerns are addressed, I Not Stupid should be ready for a Good Article nomination.
I need the following questions answered before I can address the concerns:
Singaporean members of this WikiProject should consider collaborating with me to improve I Not Stupid to GA status, and to improve articles on other Jack Neo movies.
-- J.L.W.S. The Special One 12:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Included here should be a history of the film's background and development, such as how many studios, actors, directors and writers were involved with the project at one point or another. Continuing onto the production of the film, facts such as filming dates, budget figures, any noteworthy tidbits (such as delays, reshoots etc.) should be transformed into prose. Comments from the cast and crew are also welcomed.
There has been a current debate over the last few days of several of User: Ernst Stavro Blofeld's contributions to the WP:Film. He has begun creating muliple new lists featuring lists of films by year (ex: List of 1896 films, in comparision to the original 1896 in film with the list of films though not featured on the page and linking from it as expansion anyway), a list of films by country (ex: List of Finnish films, currently up for AFD for being too broad and possible copyright problems), and two new templates ({{ filmsbyyear}} & {{ Filmsbycountry}}). Although he is working with the best of intentions to attempt to improve the project, and was bold in creating these lists/templates, there needs to be some debate on whether they are necessary or need to be more discriminate. There is current discussion about the country lists at the AFD here and about the years in film in AFD here several user pages including: his, Hoverfish, and Cbrown1023. Instead of attempting to solve this around the project, Hoverfish and myself thought that it would be better if it was brought to the attention of WP:Films to be discussed by all members, in hopes of finding a swift and beneficial solution. Please discuss if these lists or templates should be deleted, remain, merged, or some alternate solution. -- Nehrams2020 19:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Thankyou to all and I emphasise again I appreciate everyones contribution to this. THis is a major task and I like everyone involved wants it to be done properly. Rather than creating new confusing lists redirects to cateogories will be made the templates definately kept and can be used even in the categories as a quick movement aroung global film. What I wanted was to be able to view a list of films made in a certain year or country at a click which wasn;t really present beofr ethe boxes but can see is really there already in the cateogries just needs full expansion. However as I am gradually adding films I would be very pleased if temporary lists of films i wuld like to add could be listed behind the mainspace in our Wikiproject. E.g for Finnish film films beginning with b list them and add them to wikipedia then delete the list then add the missing c film complete delete list like this. E.g Wikipedia:WikiProject:List of Finnish films when completed then add a new missing list and add the films to wikipedia etc. But the idea is to add films that are worthy - contray to what User:Calton I don't just want to add a totally unnotable film for the sake of it. I gneeuingly believe most films are of some information value and I will not create articles if I believe they cannot be expanded or are dodgy in any way. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 23:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I propose that changes are made to List of films by country and even date. Rather than delete them I think each country should have the list of notbale films in order by year of release rather than an A-Z that the categories will eventually create anyway. This is far more useful which I believe Thai films and that have already done. Alos the format could be changed to a box With year and date of release in chronoligcal order and director of film by country. I notcied debate over the dates of film releases. If lists were drawn up of films by year then the same could eventually be done, from Januray 1st to december the 31st by year. This will not only be an expansion of the main pages e.g 1947 in film and Cinema of .... but will give more specific infomration about date of release in chronological order.
Note that years in film neither give a full list of notable films nor specific details of date of release which the lists as new parts of these pages could accomplish. The lists would be parts of the years in film pages Surely then this cannot be disregarded as non-encyclopedic? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Update: All further work on the new country lists has been moved under Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List of films without article namespace. Hoverfish 21:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Presently I am compiling a list of Bulgartian films because there are none in the category. THis is for information purpoese. However I have started with A researching each one and I have found many unotable which have been removed e.g short documentaries and 8 minute cartoons etc. In the end we will have a narrowed down list of missing notable Bulgarian films which can be added to wikipedia. However with other country lists I have no objection if you rather let me compile them behind the mainspace e.g List of Austrian films. Once again lists will be added and then researched removing the non notablre articles again with a list of full missing films for the country to add to wikipedia. Please trust me on this one. The Bulgarian films are being compiled in the mainspace for temporary encylopedic reasons. If somebody wnatede a list of bulgarian films there would at present have only been one or two films See Category:Bulgarian films.
I propose a major new organization of missing wikipedia films by country and date Starting with Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing Argentine films Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing Austrian films
This way lists can be accessed from imdb or british film instute but again can be researched so that a finely tuned list of missing films by country will be created chucking out the non notable films. THis will be gradual though so we can manage existing red links in relation to the entire Wikiproject. E.g I am willing to work on one country at a time rather than going ahead creating red links.
I also propose a major change in films by year. I believe in the same way lists can be compiled on different Wikiproject pages by e.g
Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing 1896 films Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing 1897 films Wikipedia:WikiProject Film:Missing 1898 films
etc. Again full lists can be compiled but then researched to remove the titles which are not notable leaving really worthy articles which may be created. The process of researching each year and country could be gradual but I fell this way be make sure that every film of notablity is covered with the crap removed by inital research. Then once these articles are created fully then of course we will automatically have a finely tuned list of films by every year and country which are not only lists but actually provide information on every one which is what my goal on wikipedia is all about. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Then once every year list or country list is finely tuned to notablity then they could be adeed to the main Missing notable articles page organized by country or date in a new section or whatever. Of ocurse I would love to here everyones opinion on this before going ahead as I respect all of you film wikipedians greatly for the immense work and organization already done on wikipedia. Everyone should be very proud of their achievments so far. A major well done. I believe my new process of research could be very imporant in creating an ultimate list of missing notable films but I wouldn't be happy if i thought people were not happy with my ideas. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
This way many different wikipedians could concentrate on different areas with one working on adding missing 1896 films to wikipedia another 1897 films another adding missing Argentine films another missing brazilian films etc. This whole idea would be a further expansion of missing notable films from wikiproject Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
See List of Bulgarian films: A. List has been narrowed down to notable films. -first notable film started for Bulgaria A byahme mladi. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I propose that changes are made to List of films by country. Rather than delete them I think each country should have the list of notbale films in order by year of release rather than an A-Z that the categories will eventually create anyway. This is far more useful which I believe Thai films and that have already done. Alos the format could be changed to a box With year and date of release in chronoligcal order and director of film by country. I notcied debate over the dates of film releases. If lists were drawn up of films by year then the same could eventually be done, from Januray 1st to december the 31st by year. This will not only be an expansion of the main pages e.g 1947 in film and Cinema of .... but will give more specific infomration about date of release in chronological order. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
If redirects will be too much of a strain on the system I won't do them its just wikipedia has thousands of new visitors every day and List of ... films is far more probable than Category: which they wouldn't know about. If the redirects weren't there you would type in List of 1947 films and it would seemingly not be there. Iknow the access is on lists of films which people will go to. The new navigation boxes then will just go directly to categories. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:03, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Seattle International Film Festival#Golden Space Needle winners has enough redlinks to keep someone quite busy creating worthy articles. - Jmabel | Talk 21:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Until now I have concentrated on Film Festival awards to compile notable films. There is also the Significant Critics' awards, up top in List of film awards. Shouldn't these films be considered notable too? Hoverfish 18:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC) - And what about Industry awards? Hoverfish 18:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I struggle to see the point of this, but if it's really necessary, can this please be renamed to Category:Template-Class film pages? Or better, to Category:film templates, or merged into Category:film non-articles? (Or best of all, get rid of it entirely.) Alai 22:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I have a question on the naming guidelines of a film. The upcoming film Home of the Brave (2007 film), is set to release on limited release on December 15, 2006 and wide release on January 5, 2007. Should the film remain as (2007 film) or return to (2006 film) to include the limited release of the film? Just want to know so I can fix some redirects and determine if there is an established guideline for future similar cases.-- Nehrams2020 19:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I say also 2006. I always correct dates to original release. Hoverfish 19:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
To give some coherency to the many little sf-oriented communities on Wikipedia.-- ragesoss 20:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I just received your Wiki-film invitation. I am glad to be a part of it, though my time is limited. I am Roger, and a film historian. I wanted to ask your assistance on an article that has been bothering me since I first joined Wikipedia American Mutoscope and Biograph Company. I was starting my volunteer editing for enjoyment and contributions. starting in the silent era. I ran across this article on this company that had been completely over "Cited" with conflicting information. I did my research and found out that even in the discussion of the article there were heated arguments that were utterly ridiculous. This company was an old film company that seemingly went out of business in 1928. In the 80's it was said to have been revived by a man who was in the Little Rascals and his son. As I perused the discussion page I was astonished. The people from new company were defensive, but the volunteer editors were to the point of verbally abusive. One of the statements was that they wanted to destroy the creditability of the company. I tried in vain to edit and correct, but my corrections were reverted and I was no less than harassed. I was even verbally attacked accusing me of being part of said company. I then went to other silent film articles, and discovered that "None" were scrutinized, and over cited as excessively as this article. Since the administrators did not assist at all I reluctantly gave up on much of my Wikipedia involvement, and now have a "Bad Taste" in my mouth for Wikipedia period. I am a suido film historian, and do the lecture circuit quite often. I am very busy and have alot of associates that are in my field as well as financers. After hearing of this plight, the word has gone out not to donate nor support Wikipedia. They have also reviewed this article. Hopefully if this and other discrepancies are corrected with this and other articles, then things may be different. I bring this to your attention because Wikipedia is a wonderful idea handled in the proper manner, and not used as a "Battlefield". Please let me know if you or the our asssociates at Wiki-film can help.
-- Roger the red 20:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
May I please ask for anyone interested to visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Wicker_Man#Move_to_The_Wicker_Man_.281973_film.29_.3F where there is a discussion about what to call the article. There are opposing viewpoints but not enough to achieve consensus. Any opinions are welcome. Mallanox 23:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Australian film Deadly (stub) happens to have a talk page redirecting to another film, apparently not Australian. Can someone please help sort this out? Hoverfish 16:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't figure out how it got there. Thanks for fixing and explaining. Hoverfish 17:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)