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So I have been on the platform for a bit, though I am still learning the ropes to an extent, and I have noticed Template:Party shading/Independent (US) is used on a lot of older or more prominent current election articles. Does this color need to exist on a fundamental level? Especially since a US independent is no different to independents in other countries in any legal, historical, cultural, or electoral way. The color seems arbitrary and is not even used as a basis for colors on maps, which use the internationally-based independent colors instead for holds/gains, or vote % colors. Talthiel ( talk) 21:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
{{Party color|Independent (India)}}
, {{Party color|Independent (Vietnam)}}
, etc. And I have articulated several times that similar shades of gray are used to indicate hold/gain/vacant/loss in US politics templates. The point of using colors is to aid readers, and if they are too similar to other colors in common use around the same same pages, they do not serve that purpose. All of that said, I don't know if the onus is on me to make a case here, as I'm not the one who made the change. Standardization is not a requirement on Wikipedia, and there are countless country-specific templates in use around the project. I don't see why this should be treated any differently, and I don't understand what is accomplished by such an undertaking. How do readers benefit by seeing gray next to American independent politicians instead of buff?
WMSR (
talk) 16:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
it's pretty well understood on Wikipedia that gray means no partydoesn't quite pass muster. WMSR ( talk) 23:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
The election box is not respecting the theme selected by the user on Wikipedia mobile app. Refer to below data and the box, Last three rows are shown with white background, when the theme selected on Wikipedia is dark. I couldn't add the screenshot from mobile app, because Wiki do not consider it as "own work". :D
{{Election box begin | title=[[2019 Indian general elections]]: [[Pilibhit]]}} {{Election box winning candidate with party link| |party = Bharatiya Janata Party |candidate = [[Feroze Varun Gandhi]] |votes = 704,549 |percentage = 59.38 |change = +7.32 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Samajwadi Party |candidate = [[Hemraj Verma]] |votes = 448,922 |percentage = 37.83 |change = +15.00 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = NOTA |candidate = [[None of the Above]] |votes = 9,973 |percentage = 0.84 |change = -0.26 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Varun Gandhi |votes = 4,483 |percentage = 0.38 |change = +0.38 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Surendra Kumar Gupta |votes = 4,442 |percentage = 0.37 |change = +0.37 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Shiv Sena |candidate = Anita Tripati |votes = 3,974 |percentage = 0.30 |change = +0.30 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Munesh singh |votes = 2,129 |percentage = 0.18 |change = -0.41 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Jafri Begum |votes = 1,633 |percentage = 0.14 |change = +0.14 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Janata Dal |candidate = Dr. Bharat |votes = 1,624 |percentage = 0.14 |change = +0.14 }} {{Election box candidate| |party = Pragatishil Party |candidate = Mohammad Hanif |votes = 1,276 |percentage = 0.11 |change = +0.11 }} {{Election box candidate | |party = Sabka Dal United |candidate = Dr. Sita Ram Rajput |votes = 1,098 |percentage = 0.09 |change = +0.09 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Kaif Raza Khan |votes = 926 |percentage = 0.08 |change = +0.08 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Urvashi Singh |votes = 864 |percentage = 0.07 |change = +0.07 }} {{Election box candidate | |party = Naitik Party |candidate = Sanjay Kumar Bharti |votes = 696 |percentage = 0.06 |change = +0.06 }} {{Election box majority| |votes = 255,627 |percentage = 21.55 |change = -7.68 }} {{Election box turnout| |votes = 1,187,225 |percentage = 67.41 |change = +4.55 }} {{Election box hold with party link| |winner = Bharatiya Janata Party |swing = +7.32 }} {{Election box end}}
Party | Candidate | Votes | % | ±% | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
BJP | Feroze Varun Gandhi | 704,549 | 59.38 | +7.32 | |
SP | Hemraj Verma | 448,922 | 37.83 | +15.00 | |
NOTA | None of the Above | 9,973 | 0.84 | -0.26 | |
Independent | Varun Gandhi | 4,483 | 0.38 | +0.38 | |
Independent | Surendra Kumar Gupta | 4,442 | 0.37 | +0.37 | |
SHS | Anita Tripati | 3,974 | 0.30 | +0.30 | |
Independent | Munesh singh | 2,129 | 0.18 | -0.41 | |
Independent | Jafri Begum | 1,633 | 0.14 | +0.14 | |
JD | Dr. Bharat | 1,624 | 0.14 | +0.14 | |
Pragatishil Party | Mohammad Hanif | 1,276 | 0.11 | +0.11 | |
Sabka Dal United | Dr. Sita Ram Rajput | 1,098 | 0.09 | +0.09 | |
Independent | Kaif Raza Khan | 926 | 0.08 | +0.08 | |
Independent | Urvashi Singh | 864 | 0.07 | +0.07 | |
Naitik Party | Sanjay Kumar Bharti | 696 | 0.06 | +0.06 | |
Majority | 255,627 | 21.55 | -7.68 | ||
Turnout | 1,187,225 | 67.41 | +4.55 | ||
BJP hold | Swing | +7.32 |
PyneEditor ( talk) 04:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
I have nominated 1880 Republican National Convention for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 18:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
So I just finished updating the results for Bourne (electoral division), but I happened to notice that some by-elections happened as well, should those be added to the page as well? (excuse the dumb question, only recently got the urge back to edit on Wikipedia again) Knockknock987 ( talk) 21:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
2024 Mississauga mayoral by-election#Polling is currently overlapping the Tools menu on my system. That said, there's another candidate that should have a column, but the recent edit by another user didn't add them.
What happens when the number of names is too large?
Note that Christine Simundson was thrown into an early poll, but neither registered for the election or publicly declined. Secondly, Peter McCallion withdrew from the ballot before the end of the nomination period. So they're the easiest to remove, for last minute entrant Brian Crombie, who is on the most recent poll. -- Zanimum ( talk) 23:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
The page for the 1960 United States presidential election is currently locked due to edit warring around a proposed change to add unpledged electors as a column alongside individual candidates in the infobox. In order to find consensus for a change, if the topic is of interest please discuss at Talk:1960 United States presidential election. Yaksar (let's chat) 05:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Do we make pages on British Parish Council elections?
I know most aren't competitive but if we have one that is political and electorally competitive is it possible? Or would it be better to include it in the page for the specific parish council? Does a parish Council count as notable?
Lankyant ( talk) 13:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:No original research#Election_Percentages as to whether we use a source's percentages or recalculate them on a different basis when presenting them in infoboxes. NebY ( talk) 23:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Peterborough (UK Parliament constituency) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 00:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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So I have been on the platform for a bit, though I am still learning the ropes to an extent, and I have noticed Template:Party shading/Independent (US) is used on a lot of older or more prominent current election articles. Does this color need to exist on a fundamental level? Especially since a US independent is no different to independents in other countries in any legal, historical, cultural, or electoral way. The color seems arbitrary and is not even used as a basis for colors on maps, which use the internationally-based independent colors instead for holds/gains, or vote % colors. Talthiel ( talk) 21:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
{{Party color|Independent (India)}}
, {{Party color|Independent (Vietnam)}}
, etc. And I have articulated several times that similar shades of gray are used to indicate hold/gain/vacant/loss in US politics templates. The point of using colors is to aid readers, and if they are too similar to other colors in common use around the same same pages, they do not serve that purpose. All of that said, I don't know if the onus is on me to make a case here, as I'm not the one who made the change. Standardization is not a requirement on Wikipedia, and there are countless country-specific templates in use around the project. I don't see why this should be treated any differently, and I don't understand what is accomplished by such an undertaking. How do readers benefit by seeing gray next to American independent politicians instead of buff?
WMSR (
talk) 16:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
it's pretty well understood on Wikipedia that gray means no partydoesn't quite pass muster. WMSR ( talk) 23:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
The election box is not respecting the theme selected by the user on Wikipedia mobile app. Refer to below data and the box, Last three rows are shown with white background, when the theme selected on Wikipedia is dark. I couldn't add the screenshot from mobile app, because Wiki do not consider it as "own work". :D
{{Election box begin | title=[[2019 Indian general elections]]: [[Pilibhit]]}} {{Election box winning candidate with party link| |party = Bharatiya Janata Party |candidate = [[Feroze Varun Gandhi]] |votes = 704,549 |percentage = 59.38 |change = +7.32 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Samajwadi Party |candidate = [[Hemraj Verma]] |votes = 448,922 |percentage = 37.83 |change = +15.00 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = NOTA |candidate = [[None of the Above]] |votes = 9,973 |percentage = 0.84 |change = -0.26 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Varun Gandhi |votes = 4,483 |percentage = 0.38 |change = +0.38 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Surendra Kumar Gupta |votes = 4,442 |percentage = 0.37 |change = +0.37 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Shiv Sena |candidate = Anita Tripati |votes = 3,974 |percentage = 0.30 |change = +0.30 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Munesh singh |votes = 2,129 |percentage = 0.18 |change = -0.41 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Jafri Begum |votes = 1,633 |percentage = 0.14 |change = +0.14 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Janata Dal |candidate = Dr. Bharat |votes = 1,624 |percentage = 0.14 |change = +0.14 }} {{Election box candidate| |party = Pragatishil Party |candidate = Mohammad Hanif |votes = 1,276 |percentage = 0.11 |change = +0.11 }} {{Election box candidate | |party = Sabka Dal United |candidate = Dr. Sita Ram Rajput |votes = 1,098 |percentage = 0.09 |change = +0.09 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Kaif Raza Khan |votes = 926 |percentage = 0.08 |change = +0.08 }} {{Election box candidate with party link| |party = Independent (politician) |candidate = Urvashi Singh |votes = 864 |percentage = 0.07 |change = +0.07 }} {{Election box candidate | |party = Naitik Party |candidate = Sanjay Kumar Bharti |votes = 696 |percentage = 0.06 |change = +0.06 }} {{Election box majority| |votes = 255,627 |percentage = 21.55 |change = -7.68 }} {{Election box turnout| |votes = 1,187,225 |percentage = 67.41 |change = +4.55 }} {{Election box hold with party link| |winner = Bharatiya Janata Party |swing = +7.32 }} {{Election box end}}
Party | Candidate | Votes | % | ±% | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
BJP | Feroze Varun Gandhi | 704,549 | 59.38 | +7.32 | |
SP | Hemraj Verma | 448,922 | 37.83 | +15.00 | |
NOTA | None of the Above | 9,973 | 0.84 | -0.26 | |
Independent | Varun Gandhi | 4,483 | 0.38 | +0.38 | |
Independent | Surendra Kumar Gupta | 4,442 | 0.37 | +0.37 | |
SHS | Anita Tripati | 3,974 | 0.30 | +0.30 | |
Independent | Munesh singh | 2,129 | 0.18 | -0.41 | |
Independent | Jafri Begum | 1,633 | 0.14 | +0.14 | |
JD | Dr. Bharat | 1,624 | 0.14 | +0.14 | |
Pragatishil Party | Mohammad Hanif | 1,276 | 0.11 | +0.11 | |
Sabka Dal United | Dr. Sita Ram Rajput | 1,098 | 0.09 | +0.09 | |
Independent | Kaif Raza Khan | 926 | 0.08 | +0.08 | |
Independent | Urvashi Singh | 864 | 0.07 | +0.07 | |
Naitik Party | Sanjay Kumar Bharti | 696 | 0.06 | +0.06 | |
Majority | 255,627 | 21.55 | -7.68 | ||
Turnout | 1,187,225 | 67.41 | +4.55 | ||
BJP hold | Swing | +7.32 |
PyneEditor ( talk) 04:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
I have nominated 1880 Republican National Convention for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 18:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
So I just finished updating the results for Bourne (electoral division), but I happened to notice that some by-elections happened as well, should those be added to the page as well? (excuse the dumb question, only recently got the urge back to edit on Wikipedia again) Knockknock987 ( talk) 21:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
2024 Mississauga mayoral by-election#Polling is currently overlapping the Tools menu on my system. That said, there's another candidate that should have a column, but the recent edit by another user didn't add them.
What happens when the number of names is too large?
Note that Christine Simundson was thrown into an early poll, but neither registered for the election or publicly declined. Secondly, Peter McCallion withdrew from the ballot before the end of the nomination period. So they're the easiest to remove, for last minute entrant Brian Crombie, who is on the most recent poll. -- Zanimum ( talk) 23:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
The page for the 1960 United States presidential election is currently locked due to edit warring around a proposed change to add unpledged electors as a column alongside individual candidates in the infobox. In order to find consensus for a change, if the topic is of interest please discuss at Talk:1960 United States presidential election. Yaksar (let's chat) 05:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Do we make pages on British Parish Council elections?
I know most aren't competitive but if we have one that is political and electorally competitive is it possible? Or would it be better to include it in the page for the specific parish council? Does a parish Council count as notable?
Lankyant ( talk) 13:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:No original research#Election_Percentages as to whether we use a source's percentages or recalculate them on a different basis when presenting them in infoboxes. NebY ( talk) 23:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Peterborough (UK Parliament constituency) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 00:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)