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Well I say nationality categories, but my proposal actually involves getting rid of them!
My proposal is one which I think resolves any ambiguity over nationality and means that players would only have one "nationality" category.
We simply have "Cricketers from" categories.
For example, instead of Category:English cricketers, we have Category:Cricketers from England. Instead of Category:West Indian cricketers, we have Category:Cricketers from the West Indies.
These categories, if needed, could be broken down by country (in the case of the Windies), state, province, county, etc, and then further by town/city if needed.
So, to go on some of the examples above:
Simple and easy - which probably means everyone will disagree with it! Thoughts? Andrew nixon ( talk) 09:08, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Forget what I said above - I now say, let's not bother with nationality categories - they cause more trouble than they're worth! Andrew nixon ( talk) 11:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm creating a proposal along the lines of the previous discussion, to try and get something finalised about this. We were lucky with the Barbados CfD so lets try to ensure we do clean this mess up properly. It's in my sandbox at the moment while I sort it out.— MDCollins ( talk) 11:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I guess both could be a sub-cat of Barbados cricketers. There was an example above of someone who played for England, but not in a Test/ODI. I was thinking that they could be left in the parent cat (England cricketers) - and that there'd only be a handful of them. For the (example) Barbados ones, is it easy to tell if the matches were just domestic FC/List A or International List A (but not ODI)? I guess they could both be sub-cats of Barbados cricketers?— MDCollins ( talk) 11:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Good idea. Presumably there are other affiliate countries to which that could also apply. Providing we can tell the level of the matches...Are you thinking that (taking Barbados as an example) matches for Barbados are all domestic (against other WI islands), and (according to Barbados national cricket team, the only international matches are those in the 1988 Commonwealth games (which had List A status)? If that is the case, is there need for such distinction? If not, just put Category:Barbados cricketers into both domestic/international parent categories. But if yes, that would work.— MDCollins ( talk) 10:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
FYI
The annoying thing is editors that aren't exactly very knowledgeable about cricket wonder why have an article about this test and not all the others. In other words, they don't understand it's significance. It's looking very likely that the article will be deleted. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 06:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Eden Gardens is in danger of being deleted as copyright infringing material! Surely, this cant be correct. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 22:35, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I think in this case, there is very little un-offending material. Even the lead was directly copied. As we can't find a "clean" version in the history, it is easier to start again in order to remove all offending details. I have saved the last version at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Eden Gardens so we can use it as a template - i.e. have access to the infobox at least. If anybody can construct a clean version, noting the instructions given, it might be saved, but probably best to start again. It can be re-created, but it needs to be started afresh.— MDCollins ( talk) 15:55, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Is it just me or his rowdy party stereo completely nn? Can't be any worse than my neighbour surely... YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 04:11, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Never mind that froth, I find the information about his name (which should be much more prominent) rather opaque. YM - could you do something to help explain it? -- Dweller ( talk) 10:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
He's back, with a dispute about Sreesanth complainging about a broken aircon! YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 00:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Can an admin see if there's anything salvageable on the deleted Rilee Rossouw. As it was speedied I suspect not but thought it would be best to check before recreating it. -- Jpeeling ( talk) 09:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, everyone! I was one of the early members of WikiProject Cricket but my contributions have been very minimal recently as I've been on an extended wikibreak since early 2007. I'm now starting to become active again as an editor and I was delighted to see this WikiProject still active and busy. Anyway, just wanted to say hi to anyone who remembers me and introduce myself to those of you who don't: I look forward to working with you on cricket articles! -- Nick Boalch\ talk 18:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
welcome back ! YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 00:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
A belated welcome back from me too! Loganberry ( Talk) 00:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Several of the squad lists in the national team articles list the shirt number of a player (I've not gone through them all, but England, India, and West Indies do). I don't see the point of this as it's arbitrary and unimportant. Plus players can have different numbers in ODIs and IT20s, and there are no numbers in Tests. So, what do they add to articles and would it be a great loss to get rid of them? Nev1 ( talk) 21:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
If my calculations are correct, Kenya are in serious danger of failing to qualify for the World Cup. Namibia have just thumped them by 200 runs which makes the final round of matches very interesting.
Assuming my calculations are correct, were Kenya to lose their final round match to tournament favourites Ireland and if either the Dutch or Namibia win their final match, the Kenyans would miss out on the WC. Jevansen ( talk) 14:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
ODI status heh.... I was wondering why Mashrafe Mortaza fetched about 600K at the IPL auction and is ranked about #8 in ODI bowling for my IPL preview series. Well the rankings obviously don't weight weak teams sufficiently. Mortaza averages 40+ against the main 8 teams in ODIs and Bangladesh plays a lot against the subminnows which pads his average so much. Same for Abdur Razzak............. I'm guessing KKR just want all the Bengalis to support them. YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 05:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Well I wasn't counting the joke XIs, but I did actually forget about Zimbabwe! Andrew nixon ( talk) 19:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Warne picked the above guy to open the bowling for Rajasthan Royals in the IPL. Khans hasn't played first-class or listA cricket yet, and is making his debut in the IPL. He's probably notable as he's received some coverage in the news because his selection was so unexpected, but what do other people think? If a player has only played T20s are they notable? Nev1 ( talk) 15:22, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone assist with this query? -- Mattinbgn\ talk 04:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
We now have several articles about individual Test matches, including
There are even more articles about individual Test matches that would definitely meet notability and requirements AND improve the coverage of cricket on Wikipedia. Some ones that come to mind off the top of my head include:
No doubt there are many more.
I don't see any requirement to rush out and create articles on Tests for the sake of it (it is hard enough keeping articles about individual series from deletion) but I think there is definite scope to create a category for these articles such as Category:Test cricket matches.
I am looking for advice on a) Do you think the category is worthwhile? b) is it likely to survive the inevitable CfD discussion and c) if it is worth creating, what would be the best name for the category? Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 11:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
It looks a good idea to me but isn't "historic" a bit subjective? That might cause the "inevitable CfD discussion". Probably best to follow precedents set by baseball, American football, etc. when choosing a name. -- Orrelly Man ( talk) 23:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Created, see Category:Cricket matches. Ideas for description and parent cats welcome. Thanks for the tips. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 10:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Not Wikipedia related but for the last few years I have been buying my Wisden Almanack through cricshop as it is cheaper than buying it in Australia. Normally postage is about ₤4 for "Rest of the World" and when I ordered this year's edition last week I was told it would be ₤4.75. However, I have since received an email from cricshop saying that, rather than the ₤4.75 they originally quoted, postage would be ₤36, which would make ordering through Cricshop far more expensive than buying it from the local book store. Has anyone else received the same follow-up email? -- Roisterer ( talk) 12:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ron Saggers with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948/archive1 YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 05:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Now I know this is completely off topic, but I'm extremely PISSED OFF to find out that Tasmania won't be seeing any IPL coverage this year, like WTF? I was looking forward to viewing some of the young Indian guns play but now Tasmanian Digital Television and Ten have robbed me of the right because they aren't yet broadcasting ONE HD down here. Is anyone else from around Australia in the same boat? Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 08:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
No digital TV here. Very poor. IPL less popular than home shopping?? I was looking forward to checking out the young talent: Uday Kaul (Punjab wk who averages 50+ and is a teenager), Abhinav Mukund (CSK batsman, 19 yo, averages about 55), Kamran Khan, Tanmay Srivastava, Pradeep Sangwan, Yo Mahesh, Cheteshwar Pujara, Sunny Sohal etc. YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 02:01, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Wow, didnt CI know that Watson is in UAE? YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 03:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Can't get it here either, in the capital city of Australia. You'd think Network Ten would at least show some highlights at 2 or 3 am. As YM pointed out, viewers would be more keen to watch IPL than Vanessa Williams talking about Proactiv. Jevansen ( talk) 11:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Are grounds that have staged only List A matches considered notable?-- Black hole77 talk | contrib 22:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure that Berri Oval (in Berri, South Australia) or Lavington Sports Oval (in Albury, New South Wales) are notable, despite each being the venue for a One-Day International! They probably are, I guess. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 08:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
So, would I be right in assuming that the LC de Villiers Oval, the Walter Milton Oval, and the Stan Friedman Oval (three of the grounds that have hosted matches in the recently concluded World Cup Qualifiers) are notable as they have hosted List-A matches?-- Black hole77 talk | contrib 19:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Not directly related to the grounds question or the previous discussion here (hence the change of indentation) but relevant, I think, to the more general "what is f-c?" question as it applies to us on WP: the convention on the football WikiProject is only to count league games for a player's appearance total; even the FA Cup Final doesn't count. So, for example, Paul Scholes (all over the press for his "600th game" recently) is only listed as having played 412 matches. Personally I'm not keen on the "league only" restriction, partly because it's so out of step with what you read in the general press ( Ryan Giggs' imminent 800th game doesn't show on his infobox either), but I imagine the football project's participants thrashed this out long ago and have their reasons. I still prefer the cricketing way, though. Loganberry ( Talk) 14:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Someone created a whole bunch of articles for cricket associations in each team in India ( Board_of_Control_for_Cricket_in_India#Members ), copy pasting the same stuff and just changing the name of the team. The articles are pointless and most are not going to grow any further. But the main problem is that there are several ridiculous and/or highly non-notable entries, some of which are classified under "future members" :
I suggest that all the entries above be deleted. Don't know where he got the classification of associate, affiliates and futures because the BCCI official sites only lists the first class associations. Tintin 06:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Notable? -- Dweller ( talk) 17:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Unless the articles assertions that he works as a pusedo-ambassador of the game, developing fledgling national teams in these Baltic countries, has any weight ot truth to it. That might make him notable from the non-playing side of things? SGGH ping! 19:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I prodded, the prod was contested, so it's now at AfD. -- Dweller ( talk) 13:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
The above article has been listed to be
removed as a Featured List. While the sources are provided at the end of the list, there are no inline citations as required in
the featured list criteria (I thought inline citations were a requirement of an FL, but apparently it is only stated in
the FA criteria), also the list is a bit difficult to navigate (eg: you can't sort the columns). There's a lot of work to be done if the list is to remain Featured.
Nev1 (
talk)
19:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ron Hamence with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948/archive1 YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 01:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Cricinfo bios for Aamer Ali and Amir Ali. Both born on the same day in Karachi, both playing for Oman, both with the same first name (Syed), one with seven List A games and one with seven LA and two f-c matches. CricketArchive lists just one player ( Aamer Ali) with 14 List A and two f-c games, who has the aggregate stats of Cricinfo's two players. I'm inclined to believe CricketArchive simply on past form, but can anyone confirm one way or the other? "Amir Ali" is a redlink in the Todo section, hence the question. Loganberry ( Talk) 18:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 55 | Archive 56 | Archive 57 | Archive 58 | Archive 59 | Archive 60 | → | Archive 65 |
Well I say nationality categories, but my proposal actually involves getting rid of them!
My proposal is one which I think resolves any ambiguity over nationality and means that players would only have one "nationality" category.
We simply have "Cricketers from" categories.
For example, instead of Category:English cricketers, we have Category:Cricketers from England. Instead of Category:West Indian cricketers, we have Category:Cricketers from the West Indies.
These categories, if needed, could be broken down by country (in the case of the Windies), state, province, county, etc, and then further by town/city if needed.
So, to go on some of the examples above:
Simple and easy - which probably means everyone will disagree with it! Thoughts? Andrew nixon ( talk) 09:08, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Forget what I said above - I now say, let's not bother with nationality categories - they cause more trouble than they're worth! Andrew nixon ( talk) 11:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm creating a proposal along the lines of the previous discussion, to try and get something finalised about this. We were lucky with the Barbados CfD so lets try to ensure we do clean this mess up properly. It's in my sandbox at the moment while I sort it out.— MDCollins ( talk) 11:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I guess both could be a sub-cat of Barbados cricketers. There was an example above of someone who played for England, but not in a Test/ODI. I was thinking that they could be left in the parent cat (England cricketers) - and that there'd only be a handful of them. For the (example) Barbados ones, is it easy to tell if the matches were just domestic FC/List A or International List A (but not ODI)? I guess they could both be sub-cats of Barbados cricketers?— MDCollins ( talk) 11:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Good idea. Presumably there are other affiliate countries to which that could also apply. Providing we can tell the level of the matches...Are you thinking that (taking Barbados as an example) matches for Barbados are all domestic (against other WI islands), and (according to Barbados national cricket team, the only international matches are those in the 1988 Commonwealth games (which had List A status)? If that is the case, is there need for such distinction? If not, just put Category:Barbados cricketers into both domestic/international parent categories. But if yes, that would work.— MDCollins ( talk) 10:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
FYI
The annoying thing is editors that aren't exactly very knowledgeable about cricket wonder why have an article about this test and not all the others. In other words, they don't understand it's significance. It's looking very likely that the article will be deleted. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 06:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Eden Gardens is in danger of being deleted as copyright infringing material! Surely, this cant be correct. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 22:35, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I think in this case, there is very little un-offending material. Even the lead was directly copied. As we can't find a "clean" version in the history, it is easier to start again in order to remove all offending details. I have saved the last version at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Eden Gardens so we can use it as a template - i.e. have access to the infobox at least. If anybody can construct a clean version, noting the instructions given, it might be saved, but probably best to start again. It can be re-created, but it needs to be started afresh.— MDCollins ( talk) 15:55, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Is it just me or his rowdy party stereo completely nn? Can't be any worse than my neighbour surely... YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 04:11, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Never mind that froth, I find the information about his name (which should be much more prominent) rather opaque. YM - could you do something to help explain it? -- Dweller ( talk) 10:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
He's back, with a dispute about Sreesanth complainging about a broken aircon! YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 00:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Can an admin see if there's anything salvageable on the deleted Rilee Rossouw. As it was speedied I suspect not but thought it would be best to check before recreating it. -- Jpeeling ( talk) 09:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, everyone! I was one of the early members of WikiProject Cricket but my contributions have been very minimal recently as I've been on an extended wikibreak since early 2007. I'm now starting to become active again as an editor and I was delighted to see this WikiProject still active and busy. Anyway, just wanted to say hi to anyone who remembers me and introduce myself to those of you who don't: I look forward to working with you on cricket articles! -- Nick Boalch\ talk 18:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
welcome back ! YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 00:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
A belated welcome back from me too! Loganberry ( Talk) 00:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Several of the squad lists in the national team articles list the shirt number of a player (I've not gone through them all, but England, India, and West Indies do). I don't see the point of this as it's arbitrary and unimportant. Plus players can have different numbers in ODIs and IT20s, and there are no numbers in Tests. So, what do they add to articles and would it be a great loss to get rid of them? Nev1 ( talk) 21:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
If my calculations are correct, Kenya are in serious danger of failing to qualify for the World Cup. Namibia have just thumped them by 200 runs which makes the final round of matches very interesting.
Assuming my calculations are correct, were Kenya to lose their final round match to tournament favourites Ireland and if either the Dutch or Namibia win their final match, the Kenyans would miss out on the WC. Jevansen ( talk) 14:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
ODI status heh.... I was wondering why Mashrafe Mortaza fetched about 600K at the IPL auction and is ranked about #8 in ODI bowling for my IPL preview series. Well the rankings obviously don't weight weak teams sufficiently. Mortaza averages 40+ against the main 8 teams in ODIs and Bangladesh plays a lot against the subminnows which pads his average so much. Same for Abdur Razzak............. I'm guessing KKR just want all the Bengalis to support them. YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 05:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Well I wasn't counting the joke XIs, but I did actually forget about Zimbabwe! Andrew nixon ( talk) 19:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Warne picked the above guy to open the bowling for Rajasthan Royals in the IPL. Khans hasn't played first-class or listA cricket yet, and is making his debut in the IPL. He's probably notable as he's received some coverage in the news because his selection was so unexpected, but what do other people think? If a player has only played T20s are they notable? Nev1 ( talk) 15:22, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone assist with this query? -- Mattinbgn\ talk 04:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
We now have several articles about individual Test matches, including
There are even more articles about individual Test matches that would definitely meet notability and requirements AND improve the coverage of cricket on Wikipedia. Some ones that come to mind off the top of my head include:
No doubt there are many more.
I don't see any requirement to rush out and create articles on Tests for the sake of it (it is hard enough keeping articles about individual series from deletion) but I think there is definite scope to create a category for these articles such as Category:Test cricket matches.
I am looking for advice on a) Do you think the category is worthwhile? b) is it likely to survive the inevitable CfD discussion and c) if it is worth creating, what would be the best name for the category? Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 11:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
It looks a good idea to me but isn't "historic" a bit subjective? That might cause the "inevitable CfD discussion". Probably best to follow precedents set by baseball, American football, etc. when choosing a name. -- Orrelly Man ( talk) 23:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Created, see Category:Cricket matches. Ideas for description and parent cats welcome. Thanks for the tips. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 10:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Not Wikipedia related but for the last few years I have been buying my Wisden Almanack through cricshop as it is cheaper than buying it in Australia. Normally postage is about ₤4 for "Rest of the World" and when I ordered this year's edition last week I was told it would be ₤4.75. However, I have since received an email from cricshop saying that, rather than the ₤4.75 they originally quoted, postage would be ₤36, which would make ordering through Cricshop far more expensive than buying it from the local book store. Has anyone else received the same follow-up email? -- Roisterer ( talk) 12:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ron Saggers with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948/archive1 YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 05:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Now I know this is completely off topic, but I'm extremely PISSED OFF to find out that Tasmania won't be seeing any IPL coverage this year, like WTF? I was looking forward to viewing some of the young Indian guns play but now Tasmanian Digital Television and Ten have robbed me of the right because they aren't yet broadcasting ONE HD down here. Is anyone else from around Australia in the same boat? Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 08:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
No digital TV here. Very poor. IPL less popular than home shopping?? I was looking forward to checking out the young talent: Uday Kaul (Punjab wk who averages 50+ and is a teenager), Abhinav Mukund (CSK batsman, 19 yo, averages about 55), Kamran Khan, Tanmay Srivastava, Pradeep Sangwan, Yo Mahesh, Cheteshwar Pujara, Sunny Sohal etc. YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 02:01, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Wow, didnt CI know that Watson is in UAE? YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 03:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Can't get it here either, in the capital city of Australia. You'd think Network Ten would at least show some highlights at 2 or 3 am. As YM pointed out, viewers would be more keen to watch IPL than Vanessa Williams talking about Proactiv. Jevansen ( talk) 11:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Are grounds that have staged only List A matches considered notable?-- Black hole77 talk | contrib 22:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure that Berri Oval (in Berri, South Australia) or Lavington Sports Oval (in Albury, New South Wales) are notable, despite each being the venue for a One-Day International! They probably are, I guess. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 08:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
So, would I be right in assuming that the LC de Villiers Oval, the Walter Milton Oval, and the Stan Friedman Oval (three of the grounds that have hosted matches in the recently concluded World Cup Qualifiers) are notable as they have hosted List-A matches?-- Black hole77 talk | contrib 19:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Not directly related to the grounds question or the previous discussion here (hence the change of indentation) but relevant, I think, to the more general "what is f-c?" question as it applies to us on WP: the convention on the football WikiProject is only to count league games for a player's appearance total; even the FA Cup Final doesn't count. So, for example, Paul Scholes (all over the press for his "600th game" recently) is only listed as having played 412 matches. Personally I'm not keen on the "league only" restriction, partly because it's so out of step with what you read in the general press ( Ryan Giggs' imminent 800th game doesn't show on his infobox either), but I imagine the football project's participants thrashed this out long ago and have their reasons. I still prefer the cricketing way, though. Loganberry ( Talk) 14:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Someone created a whole bunch of articles for cricket associations in each team in India ( Board_of_Control_for_Cricket_in_India#Members ), copy pasting the same stuff and just changing the name of the team. The articles are pointless and most are not going to grow any further. But the main problem is that there are several ridiculous and/or highly non-notable entries, some of which are classified under "future members" :
I suggest that all the entries above be deleted. Don't know where he got the classification of associate, affiliates and futures because the BCCI official sites only lists the first class associations. Tintin 06:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Notable? -- Dweller ( talk) 17:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Unless the articles assertions that he works as a pusedo-ambassador of the game, developing fledgling national teams in these Baltic countries, has any weight ot truth to it. That might make him notable from the non-playing side of things? SGGH ping! 19:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I prodded, the prod was contested, so it's now at AfD. -- Dweller ( talk) 13:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
The above article has been listed to be
removed as a Featured List. While the sources are provided at the end of the list, there are no inline citations as required in
the featured list criteria (I thought inline citations were a requirement of an FL, but apparently it is only stated in
the FA criteria), also the list is a bit difficult to navigate (eg: you can't sort the columns). There's a lot of work to be done if the list is to remain Featured.
Nev1 (
talk)
19:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ron Hamence with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948/archive1 YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 01:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Cricinfo bios for Aamer Ali and Amir Ali. Both born on the same day in Karachi, both playing for Oman, both with the same first name (Syed), one with seven List A games and one with seven LA and two f-c matches. CricketArchive lists just one player ( Aamer Ali) with 14 List A and two f-c games, who has the aggregate stats of Cricinfo's two players. I'm inclined to believe CricketArchive simply on past form, but can anyone confirm one way or the other? "Amir Ali" is a redlink in the Todo section, hence the question. Loganberry ( Talk) 18:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)