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There is a discussion of problematic text not supported by references, and falsified references added by Legolas2186 to articles about songs, albums, concert tours, and to biographies. Anybody wishing to help verify sources or rework the indicated text are welcome to join the effort.
Here is the original discussion:
Here is the ongoing workpage for listing problems and for listing fixes.
Thanks for your attention! Binksternet ( talk) 18:47, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I noted that User:Devin added the {{{importance}}} rating to the project [1]. But similar to WP:SONGS and WP:COUNTRIES, how we can decide if a tour is "important" or not. Of course some of them can be considered important, but as a whole, are concert tours "more important than others"? Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:09, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello!
The dispute is continually taking place between me (Lassoboy) and the user Aspects on my talk page. Now I am trying to solve this problem. The main problem is to find consensus of using the serial numbers for the concert tour dates.
All the dispute material is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lassoboy
The letter for the user Aspects is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aspects#Arbitration
What are your thoughts of using the serial numbers for better counting and for fixing the numbering of the tour dates (for example, thanks to serial numbers I found out that Iron Maiden gave 187 concerts during the World Slavery Tour, not 193 and so on.) Thank you. Lassoboy ( talk) 16:21, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
No, Aspects, you are not right here.
First of all, I ask you right now to present me concrete evidences that "most readers do not care where the 37th performance took place and if they did they could still count down the list and figure it out." and "By numbers not being on other tour articles, it can be seen that there is not a huge demand for readers wanting to count what number a certain concert was."
By saying "By numbers not being on other tour articles, it can be seen that there is not a huge demand for readers wanting to count what number a certain concert was." you are completely going against the wall. I can contest this argument. I can say for example, that from this argument it can be seen that the readers do not bother to write down 100+ numbers, because this acitivity is not automated and I did it manually and it took 10+ hours to write down numbers for the tour dates. I can also say that readers have not probably yet understood (in which I really doubt) the beneficial role of these numbers and if they have, then they do not want to manually write down those numbers. At least where I have written the numbers, there has been no problems with other readers/editors, except you! So, this argument of yours has different interpretations and you cannot say that yours is the only right one.
You know that Iron Maiden gave 187 concerts during the World Slavery Tour. Do you bother to count down, lets say to the 156th concert or would preferably look the numbers in front of the dates? Which one is the easier way for you and for the readers? And added to this, when there is so many concerts, there is a huge risk, that you count the numbers down by yourself wrongly. So, I am of the opinion and I stand firm to it, that the range numbers for the touring dates make it easier for the readers to find out, what is the correct order of the concerts. It is especially beneficial for the fans.
Secondly, you say that "I do not think you have made provided any effective evidence that the numbers are needed to count the concerts and in fact whenever I counterargue your argument, you seem to give them up and then try to throw more arguments against the wall to see if any of them stick."
You are not right here again, dear Aspects. What evidence are you looking for so strictly? The idea for numbering the dates is not widespread in Wikipedia. I have seen this method in Wikipedia before, but only a few times. I thought that it would be a good idea to introduce numbering the tour dates, so that the order of the concerts is more visible/understandable and you do not have to count it down to find the right range number for the concrete concert. Is this a good evidence enough for you now, dear Aspects? I have no more evidences and my hopes are purely standing on a "benevolence pillar", which for me means that all the new ideas which are brought to Wikipedia and which are not violating the Wikipedia basic principles and state laws, are acceptable. Now, if You are going to fight against my idea of numbering the dates and this idea is not malicious in any way, what should I think? At present I think that I have wasted about 10+ hours of my life for Wikipedia for nothing, and I think that I am starting to leave Wikipedia, because it seems to me that my efforts to make articles better, are not appreciated at all. I understand that articles are needed to be renewed especially with the new and sourced content, but I also think that the articles are needed to be renewed techincally (for example, by bringing the numbers in front of the dates on touring pages).
Thirdly, I have not given up my basic arguments while I am arguing, so there is no reason for such opinion and it does not make any sense.
And added to this, you said on ANI page that "especially since he asked for an arbitrator and could not even wait for that arbitrator to respond before starting a discussion here." I waited and Koavf said that he is not really equipped to mediate or arbitrate here. So, I take it as a refusal to be the arbitrator in between us and I am looking for another one, if I am going to need that later.
Now I am waiting for your reply. And do not write to me that "There have been no needs put forth from other editors that the numbers help improve the articles.", because I need to find supporters to show you that my edits are useful for everybody. Lassoboy ( talk) 11:16, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
So, can anybody help us to solve the problem?? You can find the examples of numbering the dates here:
Now you can have a better look of how numbering the tour dates improve the reading of the tour dates, make the table visually better and the readers can easily find the right range numbers for the concerts. Thank you. Lassoboy ( talk) 12:54, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello again, dear administrators, editors and readers of Wikipedia!
I would present to you some positive aspects of numbering the tour dates:
So, my main points are presented above and I wish that these aspects would be taken into account, when making the final decision of whether editors should use voluntarily range numbers in front of the tour dates in the future or not. Thank you! Lassoboy ( talk) 14:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi Lassoboy: I don't believe that introducing numbers for tour dates will be a benefit to the encyclopedia, and I want to address your specific points.
Regards, Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 19:09, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm agreeing with Orange Suede Sofa on this one. I don't think that that introducing numbers for tour dates is unnecessary. The dates (July 23, 2010 to September 10, 2011, for example) are already in chronological order so numerical order is not needed.
Devin (
talk)
04:27, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Looks like Lassoboy has not found a single supporter for the widespread adoption of sequential numbers assigned to concert dates within tours. Aspects, Binksternet, Orange Suede Sofa and Devin have expressed the view that no such numbers are needed. This is not an avalanche of response but it is sufficient to establish a consensus. I will begin changing back the articles that have had numbers added to them. Binksternet ( talk) 18:43, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Please go to Talk:Bad_World_Tour#Requested_move and offer your thoughts.
Should the article be called:
This could have implications at other tour articles, affecting the naming process. Binksternet ( talk) 21:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Concert Tours#Style needs to be determined. If a consensus can be achieved, perhaps it can be more formally implemented in a new section of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music). There are a number of separate requests at Wikipedia:Requested moves, which, if a consensus on naming conventions can be had, might better be handled at WP:RM with a multiple moves request:
— Wbm1058 ( talk) 15:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion occuring here regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the Wikipedia project. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 22:16, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
2012 tour of She Has a Name is currently up for a Good Article Nomination and the reviewer has requested an independent copyedit. If anyone who has not had previous involvement with the article would be willing to perform such a copyedit, it would be greatly appreciated. Neelix ( talk) 19:05, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Can someone write in what the guidelines for the cities visited on the tour, and whether the state/province/prefecture should be mentioned (e.g. Dallas, TX instead of Dallas)? - AngusWOOF ( talk) 00:00, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Are we going with "metropolitan areas" or plain old cities? For example, if there's a concert at Barclays Arena, is that "New York City" or "Brooklyn"? If someone performs at Cowboys Stadium, is that at "Dallas" or "Arlington"? If there's a tour stop at Stade de France, is that in "Paris" or "Saint-Denis"? I even argued with someone that insisted that " Saitama Super Arena" is in Tokyo!
The reason I'm asking this is that the concert tours articles are inconsistent when it comes to places. The sports WikiProjects (actually, the individual WikiProjects related to sports) got this right when going with the "city" when it comes to which place it links to, with footnotes if needed. For example List of Super Bowl champions uses "Miami Gardens", "Pontiac" and "Pasadena", whenever it is appropriate. If possible, we should emulate that, or stick with metropolitan areas (and linking to metropolitan area articles). – H T D 13:48, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
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I nominated for speedy deletion the Anything Goes Tour. All the dates are in the future, and it seems like blatant advertising. The project page (here) seems to indicate that concert tours are only notable after they have happened. What's the policy? Thanks. Magnolia677 ( talk) 23:46, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Guys which do you think is better for using the total gross for concert tours? There is discrepancy of 5 million between the boxscore reported by Pollstar and Billboard for Gaga's ArtRave: The Artpop Ball tour. One user was adding the greater gross as reported by Pollstar, although I have reverted thinking that Pollstar might not be that official. But I could be wrong. So asking here. — Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 13:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to know the policy on upcoming tours. We're getting a glut of articles created for Korean pop tours the instant they are announced, often a month or more before they begin. One commenter on an AFD of one of the article said that it should be kept simply because it was a waste of time to delete it and have it be recreated again. Is this the kind of thing that should be taken into account when nominating articles for AFD? What exactly is the prevailing view on creating articles for tours that haven't happened yet, especially since they have virtually no independent sources? I'm happy to go with whatever the norm is. Thanks! :)
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Harej ( talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I recently edited The Resistance Tour and it reminded me of some of the tour articles I have seen in the past. This article has 139 tour dates, 98 separate setlists and half of the size of the article consists of the setlists. I am not sure if there should be a common setlist used in the article or a certain number of setlists should be used, but clearly 98 setlists is overkill and not needed. Any opinions would be helpful. Aspects ( talk) 00:32, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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Question I've had for years but never found the right place to ask: if a tour is based on an album, as such the Bad World Tour, why is the album title not italicised? Should it not be the Bad World Tour? Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 22:02, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
I came across the main project page detailing style etc. The two things on which I sought info on are missing - not sure if that's because this isn't the place? 1) photos - what photos do we desire? Poster of event (subject to copyright?), tickets, empty venue/stage showing set up if appropriate (e.g. if staff has access to it before doors open - if the set up is different from just a stage, such as U2 360), an actual concert in action etc? almost everyone in the audience takes pics, there are also always professional photographers and I wonder if the band/photographer in some instances may be happy to release one picture to us? (If we make it known that we would like and host one or two professionally shot concert pics, I do hope & believe this may become common practice for artists) and 2) set-list - these are pretty standard normally, perhaps with the occasional tweak over nights - these tweaks may be expanded on in that section of the article? Others such as Radiohead have different setlists nightly so would we encourage setlists for each gig in this case? And what would we consider a WP:RS for setlists? setlist.fm is a great resource for the casual fan, I know I use it for every gig I go to, but it's user-generated content and not acceptable to use here. Where else do we get setlists from?? As reviews sometimes, not always, do, and are often only reported in local or special interest media. Rayman60 ( talk) 02:17, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I find the widely used section title "Shows" (with a list of concerts, dates, venues, attenance, etc from the tour) to be very non-specific and ambiguous. If I had never read a concert tour article before, I might think the "Shows" section contains performance details or summaries of songs being played at the shows. I would not automatically think it's a list of the individual concerts themselves. Whereas a section title like "Tour dates" or "Itinerary" is very specific. I would not be confused about what content to expect in a section with that naming standard. I'll also add the only Featured Article on a modern tour under this project banner, Zoo TV Tour, uses the "Tour dates" section title (see here for the article version at the time it passed review). What do others think? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 ( talk • contributions) 22:44, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
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Hello! I just created the Pure Heroine Tour page for Lorde's first tour and I would love some input so I can make it as good as possible. Thank you! Michfan2123 ( talk) 3 October 2017
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Hi folks, it seems to me that the articles for individual tours would be benefit from crediting (when possible) people such as:
A Madonna tour has hundreds of people working on it, but it should be possible to identify the major designers who are responsible for the look and feel of the show (particularly on big-budget shows that list credits in a tour book). Do you think these should these be options in the infobox, or part of the body of the article? leigh (φθόγγος) 21:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Most tour names do not appear in italics, such as U2 360° Tour and Steel Wheels/Urban Jungle Tour. But some tour names appear in italics, such as in articles A Bigger Bang (concert tour) and Bad (tour). Initially it was not clearly stated which is preferred in Wikipedia's Manual of Style when I looked at MOS:ITALICTITLE and MOS:ITALICS until I found WP:Manual_of_Style/Titles#Neither which states "the title should be in neither italics nor quotation marks" for "concerts or other large media events". The latter appears to be definitive in stating that concert names should not use italics, so I plan to make edits on this assumption. If there are other considerations, perhaps we can discuss here. Curious Eric 03:53, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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The shows on 9th & 10th of March for Louis Tomlinson's World Tour in Spain are listed as postponed but they actually were not cancelled. Only those since the 11th have been postponed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.254.88 ( talk) 03:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Please see the discussion here. — Status ( talk · contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 21:37, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Sock puppets of blocked users, IP editors, and others have been making significant disruptive edits to tables in many concert tour articles. Specifically, they repeatedly remove table formatting that is used to meet WP:ACCESSIBILITY goals, as outlined in WP:CONCERTS#Tables. They are being identified in preparation of WP:Requests for page protection. — Ojorojo ( talk) 18:20, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
The accessibility goals need to change back to how they used to be. The current formatting is terrible 2600:6C46:6800:21F8:8C50:3C96:C1A5:FA93 ( talk) 03:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
All tour date listings for all Madonna tours from 1985-2020 need to be reverted to the way they used to be. The new design is no good. 2600:6C46:6800:21F8:D4C3:BBF4:DA9D:E7E3 ( talk) 03:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
I've recently created this following its announcement. Feel free to expand as further details become known. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 21:48, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
I have issue according to lists of concerts:
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I recently reverted on the redirect for the tour article on 1996–1997 Kiss Alive/Worldwide Tour, and had improved on it by adding sources and references to more background on the concert tour, boxscore data and reception regarding the tour. What do you think? HorrorLover555 ( talk) 05:25, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
For the April 8, 1997 date in Evansville, IN it lists "D Generation" as the opening act". It was actually "Outhouse" who are listed as the openers for the following leg of the tour. I was there, and remember their odd name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloparlo49 ( talk • contribs) 21:18, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hello all! I was just wondering if we should include the set lists of the supporting acts of a concert tour? LOVI 33 23:35, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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Hello again. I was glancing at the Weird Al tour article, The Unfortunate Return of the Ridiculously Self-Indulgent, Ill-Advised Vanity Tour. After taking a look at it, there doesn't seem to be many sources as most of the songs including the setlist are unsourced as well as the encore cover songs being out of place in the tour dates table. I've been considering a redirect to the artist's article, but I thought I would bring this here to debate first. Even with only two references which include something from the magazine Spin and the tour dates from Weird Al's website, it doesn't seem notable as per WP:NTOUR. HorrorLover555 ( talk) 18:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
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I am seeing a lot of editors adding in Touring Data as a reliable source, either from their website or their social media. I've always seen this as an unreliable source. Is there a consensus based on this? Or? livelikemusic ( TALK!) 15:54, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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When filling out attendance data, if the touring company (such as livenation) has marked the venue as sold out, but not given an exact number, is it safe to use the specific venue's capacity to fill in the info on the tours page? Jayb.rd98 ( talk) 01:10, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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There is a content dispute about whether individual concerts should be added to stadium articles in advance of the concert date. Your input is welcome at Talk:SoFi Stadium#user @Magnolia677 removing concerts. -- Magnolia677 ( talk) 10:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
To begin, it is usual for "Country" to be used in the tour date tables, however it came to my attention that "state" is being used in place for it on tours that are exclusively in the United States. Checking the edit history, they said that it needs to be "state" as according to the editor, the tour article with it accompanied shows were "a U.S. only tour", all without consensus from the article's talk page nor looking for consensus. These are article examples of what I am talking about:
So I must ask in the WikiProject, what is your opinion on this back-and-forth debate regarding this? Should we stick to using only "country" for the table or figuring out how to fit in the usage for "state" in its place on a tour article which there are only shows in the United States? HorrorLover555 ( talk) 16:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Date | City | Country | Venue | Attendance |
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August 7, 2014 | Pasadena | United States | Rose Bowl | 110,346 / 110,346 |
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August 16, 2014 | East Rutherford | MetLife Stadium | 100,420 / 100,420 | |
August 17, 2014 | ||||
August 22, 2014 | Detroit | Comerica Park | 105,092 / 105,092 | |
August 23, 2014 |
Date (2014) | City (all U.S.) | Venue | Attendance |
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Pasadena | Rose Bowl | 110,346 / 110,346 |
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August 16
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East Rutherford | MetLife Stadium | 100,420 / 100,420 |
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August 22
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Detroit | Comerica Park | 105,092 / 105,092 |
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Pasadena | Rose Bowl | 110,346 / 110,346 |
August 8
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August 16
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East Rutherford | MetLife Stadium | 100,420 / 100,420 |
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August 22
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Detroit | Comerica Park | 105,092 / 105,092 |
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An RfC has been made here regarding whether Carpenter opening Taylor Swift's Eras Tour should be mentioned in the lead of Carpenter's biography article or not. You are invited to participate. ℛonherry ☘ 18:08, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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There is a discussion of problematic text not supported by references, and falsified references added by Legolas2186 to articles about songs, albums, concert tours, and to biographies. Anybody wishing to help verify sources or rework the indicated text are welcome to join the effort.
Here is the original discussion:
Here is the ongoing workpage for listing problems and for listing fixes.
Thanks for your attention! Binksternet ( talk) 18:47, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I noted that User:Devin added the {{{importance}}} rating to the project [1]. But similar to WP:SONGS and WP:COUNTRIES, how we can decide if a tour is "important" or not. Of course some of them can be considered important, but as a whole, are concert tours "more important than others"? Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:09, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello!
The dispute is continually taking place between me (Lassoboy) and the user Aspects on my talk page. Now I am trying to solve this problem. The main problem is to find consensus of using the serial numbers for the concert tour dates.
All the dispute material is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lassoboy
The letter for the user Aspects is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aspects#Arbitration
What are your thoughts of using the serial numbers for better counting and for fixing the numbering of the tour dates (for example, thanks to serial numbers I found out that Iron Maiden gave 187 concerts during the World Slavery Tour, not 193 and so on.) Thank you. Lassoboy ( talk) 16:21, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
No, Aspects, you are not right here.
First of all, I ask you right now to present me concrete evidences that "most readers do not care where the 37th performance took place and if they did they could still count down the list and figure it out." and "By numbers not being on other tour articles, it can be seen that there is not a huge demand for readers wanting to count what number a certain concert was."
By saying "By numbers not being on other tour articles, it can be seen that there is not a huge demand for readers wanting to count what number a certain concert was." you are completely going against the wall. I can contest this argument. I can say for example, that from this argument it can be seen that the readers do not bother to write down 100+ numbers, because this acitivity is not automated and I did it manually and it took 10+ hours to write down numbers for the tour dates. I can also say that readers have not probably yet understood (in which I really doubt) the beneficial role of these numbers and if they have, then they do not want to manually write down those numbers. At least where I have written the numbers, there has been no problems with other readers/editors, except you! So, this argument of yours has different interpretations and you cannot say that yours is the only right one.
You know that Iron Maiden gave 187 concerts during the World Slavery Tour. Do you bother to count down, lets say to the 156th concert or would preferably look the numbers in front of the dates? Which one is the easier way for you and for the readers? And added to this, when there is so many concerts, there is a huge risk, that you count the numbers down by yourself wrongly. So, I am of the opinion and I stand firm to it, that the range numbers for the touring dates make it easier for the readers to find out, what is the correct order of the concerts. It is especially beneficial for the fans.
Secondly, you say that "I do not think you have made provided any effective evidence that the numbers are needed to count the concerts and in fact whenever I counterargue your argument, you seem to give them up and then try to throw more arguments against the wall to see if any of them stick."
You are not right here again, dear Aspects. What evidence are you looking for so strictly? The idea for numbering the dates is not widespread in Wikipedia. I have seen this method in Wikipedia before, but only a few times. I thought that it would be a good idea to introduce numbering the tour dates, so that the order of the concerts is more visible/understandable and you do not have to count it down to find the right range number for the concrete concert. Is this a good evidence enough for you now, dear Aspects? I have no more evidences and my hopes are purely standing on a "benevolence pillar", which for me means that all the new ideas which are brought to Wikipedia and which are not violating the Wikipedia basic principles and state laws, are acceptable. Now, if You are going to fight against my idea of numbering the dates and this idea is not malicious in any way, what should I think? At present I think that I have wasted about 10+ hours of my life for Wikipedia for nothing, and I think that I am starting to leave Wikipedia, because it seems to me that my efforts to make articles better, are not appreciated at all. I understand that articles are needed to be renewed especially with the new and sourced content, but I also think that the articles are needed to be renewed techincally (for example, by bringing the numbers in front of the dates on touring pages).
Thirdly, I have not given up my basic arguments while I am arguing, so there is no reason for such opinion and it does not make any sense.
And added to this, you said on ANI page that "especially since he asked for an arbitrator and could not even wait for that arbitrator to respond before starting a discussion here." I waited and Koavf said that he is not really equipped to mediate or arbitrate here. So, I take it as a refusal to be the arbitrator in between us and I am looking for another one, if I am going to need that later.
Now I am waiting for your reply. And do not write to me that "There have been no needs put forth from other editors that the numbers help improve the articles.", because I need to find supporters to show you that my edits are useful for everybody. Lassoboy ( talk) 11:16, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
So, can anybody help us to solve the problem?? You can find the examples of numbering the dates here:
Now you can have a better look of how numbering the tour dates improve the reading of the tour dates, make the table visually better and the readers can easily find the right range numbers for the concerts. Thank you. Lassoboy ( talk) 12:54, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello again, dear administrators, editors and readers of Wikipedia!
I would present to you some positive aspects of numbering the tour dates:
So, my main points are presented above and I wish that these aspects would be taken into account, when making the final decision of whether editors should use voluntarily range numbers in front of the tour dates in the future or not. Thank you! Lassoboy ( talk) 14:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi Lassoboy: I don't believe that introducing numbers for tour dates will be a benefit to the encyclopedia, and I want to address your specific points.
Regards, Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 19:09, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm agreeing with Orange Suede Sofa on this one. I don't think that that introducing numbers for tour dates is unnecessary. The dates (July 23, 2010 to September 10, 2011, for example) are already in chronological order so numerical order is not needed.
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Looks like Lassoboy has not found a single supporter for the widespread adoption of sequential numbers assigned to concert dates within tours. Aspects, Binksternet, Orange Suede Sofa and Devin have expressed the view that no such numbers are needed. This is not an avalanche of response but it is sufficient to establish a consensus. I will begin changing back the articles that have had numbers added to them. Binksternet ( talk) 18:43, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Please go to Talk:Bad_World_Tour#Requested_move and offer your thoughts.
Should the article be called:
This could have implications at other tour articles, affecting the naming process. Binksternet ( talk) 21:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Concert Tours#Style needs to be determined. If a consensus can be achieved, perhaps it can be more formally implemented in a new section of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music). There are a number of separate requests at Wikipedia:Requested moves, which, if a consensus on naming conventions can be had, might better be handled at WP:RM with a multiple moves request:
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There is a discussion occuring here regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the Wikipedia project. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 22:16, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
2012 tour of She Has a Name is currently up for a Good Article Nomination and the reviewer has requested an independent copyedit. If anyone who has not had previous involvement with the article would be willing to perform such a copyedit, it would be greatly appreciated. Neelix ( talk) 19:05, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Can someone write in what the guidelines for the cities visited on the tour, and whether the state/province/prefecture should be mentioned (e.g. Dallas, TX instead of Dallas)? - AngusWOOF ( talk) 00:00, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Are we going with "metropolitan areas" or plain old cities? For example, if there's a concert at Barclays Arena, is that "New York City" or "Brooklyn"? If someone performs at Cowboys Stadium, is that at "Dallas" or "Arlington"? If there's a tour stop at Stade de France, is that in "Paris" or "Saint-Denis"? I even argued with someone that insisted that " Saitama Super Arena" is in Tokyo!
The reason I'm asking this is that the concert tours articles are inconsistent when it comes to places. The sports WikiProjects (actually, the individual WikiProjects related to sports) got this right when going with the "city" when it comes to which place it links to, with footnotes if needed. For example List of Super Bowl champions uses "Miami Gardens", "Pontiac" and "Pasadena", whenever it is appropriate. If possible, we should emulate that, or stick with metropolitan areas (and linking to metropolitan area articles). – H T D 13:48, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
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I nominated for speedy deletion the Anything Goes Tour. All the dates are in the future, and it seems like blatant advertising. The project page (here) seems to indicate that concert tours are only notable after they have happened. What's the policy? Thanks. Magnolia677 ( talk) 23:46, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Guys which do you think is better for using the total gross for concert tours? There is discrepancy of 5 million between the boxscore reported by Pollstar and Billboard for Gaga's ArtRave: The Artpop Ball tour. One user was adding the greater gross as reported by Pollstar, although I have reverted thinking that Pollstar might not be that official. But I could be wrong. So asking here. — Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 13:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to know the policy on upcoming tours. We're getting a glut of articles created for Korean pop tours the instant they are announced, often a month or more before they begin. One commenter on an AFD of one of the article said that it should be kept simply because it was a waste of time to delete it and have it be recreated again. Is this the kind of thing that should be taken into account when nominating articles for AFD? What exactly is the prevailing view on creating articles for tours that haven't happened yet, especially since they have virtually no independent sources? I'm happy to go with whatever the norm is. Thanks! :)
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Harej ( talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I recently edited The Resistance Tour and it reminded me of some of the tour articles I have seen in the past. This article has 139 tour dates, 98 separate setlists and half of the size of the article consists of the setlists. I am not sure if there should be a common setlist used in the article or a certain number of setlists should be used, but clearly 98 setlists is overkill and not needed. Any opinions would be helpful. Aspects ( talk) 00:32, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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Question I've had for years but never found the right place to ask: if a tour is based on an album, as such the Bad World Tour, why is the album title not italicised? Should it not be the Bad World Tour? Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 22:02, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
I came across the main project page detailing style etc. The two things on which I sought info on are missing - not sure if that's because this isn't the place? 1) photos - what photos do we desire? Poster of event (subject to copyright?), tickets, empty venue/stage showing set up if appropriate (e.g. if staff has access to it before doors open - if the set up is different from just a stage, such as U2 360), an actual concert in action etc? almost everyone in the audience takes pics, there are also always professional photographers and I wonder if the band/photographer in some instances may be happy to release one picture to us? (If we make it known that we would like and host one or two professionally shot concert pics, I do hope & believe this may become common practice for artists) and 2) set-list - these are pretty standard normally, perhaps with the occasional tweak over nights - these tweaks may be expanded on in that section of the article? Others such as Radiohead have different setlists nightly so would we encourage setlists for each gig in this case? And what would we consider a WP:RS for setlists? setlist.fm is a great resource for the casual fan, I know I use it for every gig I go to, but it's user-generated content and not acceptable to use here. Where else do we get setlists from?? As reviews sometimes, not always, do, and are often only reported in local or special interest media. Rayman60 ( talk) 02:17, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I find the widely used section title "Shows" (with a list of concerts, dates, venues, attenance, etc from the tour) to be very non-specific and ambiguous. If I had never read a concert tour article before, I might think the "Shows" section contains performance details or summaries of songs being played at the shows. I would not automatically think it's a list of the individual concerts themselves. Whereas a section title like "Tour dates" or "Itinerary" is very specific. I would not be confused about what content to expect in a section with that naming standard. I'll also add the only Featured Article on a modern tour under this project banner, Zoo TV Tour, uses the "Tour dates" section title (see here for the article version at the time it passed review). What do others think? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 ( talk • contributions) 22:44, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
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Hello! I just created the Pure Heroine Tour page for Lorde's first tour and I would love some input so I can make it as good as possible. Thank you! Michfan2123 ( talk) 3 October 2017
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Hi folks, it seems to me that the articles for individual tours would be benefit from crediting (when possible) people such as:
A Madonna tour has hundreds of people working on it, but it should be possible to identify the major designers who are responsible for the look and feel of the show (particularly on big-budget shows that list credits in a tour book). Do you think these should these be options in the infobox, or part of the body of the article? leigh (φθόγγος) 21:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Most tour names do not appear in italics, such as U2 360° Tour and Steel Wheels/Urban Jungle Tour. But some tour names appear in italics, such as in articles A Bigger Bang (concert tour) and Bad (tour). Initially it was not clearly stated which is preferred in Wikipedia's Manual of Style when I looked at MOS:ITALICTITLE and MOS:ITALICS until I found WP:Manual_of_Style/Titles#Neither which states "the title should be in neither italics nor quotation marks" for "concerts or other large media events". The latter appears to be definitive in stating that concert names should not use italics, so I plan to make edits on this assumption. If there are other considerations, perhaps we can discuss here. Curious Eric 03:53, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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The current practice of including column headers in the middle of tables in many concert tour articles and lists was brought up in a discussion at WT:ACCESSIBILITY. As part of the goal to make articles accessible to all, MOS:ACCESS addresses tables and references the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Data tables tutorial. The section Avoiding column headers in the middle of the table includes: "Do not place column headers in the middle of a table to visually separate the table. Assistive technologies will get confused as they cannot know which previous headers still apply to parts of the table after the first one ... In most cases, the easier solution is to split the table into several sub-tables with explanatory sub-headings" and includes good and bad examples. If there are no objections, I'll add this to the "Style" section under a "Tables" subsection. — Ojorojo ( talk) 14:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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The shows on 9th & 10th of March for Louis Tomlinson's World Tour in Spain are listed as postponed but they actually were not cancelled. Only those since the 11th have been postponed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.254.88 ( talk) 03:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Please see the discussion here. — Status ( talk · contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 21:37, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Sock puppets of blocked users, IP editors, and others have been making significant disruptive edits to tables in many concert tour articles. Specifically, they repeatedly remove table formatting that is used to meet WP:ACCESSIBILITY goals, as outlined in WP:CONCERTS#Tables. They are being identified in preparation of WP:Requests for page protection. — Ojorojo ( talk) 18:20, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
The accessibility goals need to change back to how they used to be. The current formatting is terrible 2600:6C46:6800:21F8:8C50:3C96:C1A5:FA93 ( talk) 03:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
All tour date listings for all Madonna tours from 1985-2020 need to be reverted to the way they used to be. The new design is no good. 2600:6C46:6800:21F8:D4C3:BBF4:DA9D:E7E3 ( talk) 03:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
I've recently created this following its announcement. Feel free to expand as further details become known. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 21:48, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
I have issue according to lists of concerts:
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I recently reverted on the redirect for the tour article on 1996–1997 Kiss Alive/Worldwide Tour, and had improved on it by adding sources and references to more background on the concert tour, boxscore data and reception regarding the tour. What do you think? HorrorLover555 ( talk) 05:25, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
For the April 8, 1997 date in Evansville, IN it lists "D Generation" as the opening act". It was actually "Outhouse" who are listed as the openers for the following leg of the tour. I was there, and remember their odd name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloparlo49 ( talk • contribs) 21:18, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hello all! I was just wondering if we should include the set lists of the supporting acts of a concert tour? LOVI 33 23:35, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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Hello again. I was glancing at the Weird Al tour article, The Unfortunate Return of the Ridiculously Self-Indulgent, Ill-Advised Vanity Tour. After taking a look at it, there doesn't seem to be many sources as most of the songs including the setlist are unsourced as well as the encore cover songs being out of place in the tour dates table. I've been considering a redirect to the artist's article, but I thought I would bring this here to debate first. Even with only two references which include something from the magazine Spin and the tour dates from Weird Al's website, it doesn't seem notable as per WP:NTOUR. HorrorLover555 ( talk) 18:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
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I am seeing a lot of editors adding in Touring Data as a reliable source, either from their website or their social media. I've always seen this as an unreliable source. Is there a consensus based on this? Or? livelikemusic ( TALK!) 15:54, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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When filling out attendance data, if the touring company (such as livenation) has marked the venue as sold out, but not given an exact number, is it safe to use the specific venue's capacity to fill in the info on the tours page? Jayb.rd98 ( talk) 01:10, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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There is a content dispute about whether individual concerts should be added to stadium articles in advance of the concert date. Your input is welcome at Talk:SoFi Stadium#user @Magnolia677 removing concerts. -- Magnolia677 ( talk) 10:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
To begin, it is usual for "Country" to be used in the tour date tables, however it came to my attention that "state" is being used in place for it on tours that are exclusively in the United States. Checking the edit history, they said that it needs to be "state" as according to the editor, the tour article with it accompanied shows were "a U.S. only tour", all without consensus from the article's talk page nor looking for consensus. These are article examples of what I am talking about:
So I must ask in the WikiProject, what is your opinion on this back-and-forth debate regarding this? Should we stick to using only "country" for the table or figuring out how to fit in the usage for "state" in its place on a tour article which there are only shows in the United States? HorrorLover555 ( talk) 16:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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August 7, 2014 | Pasadena | United States | Rose Bowl | 110,346 / 110,346 |
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August 16, 2014 | East Rutherford | MetLife Stadium | 100,420 / 100,420 | |
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August 22, 2014 | Detroit | Comerica Park | 105,092 / 105,092 | |
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An RfC has been made here regarding whether Carpenter opening Taylor Swift's Eras Tour should be mentioned in the lead of Carpenter's biography article or not. You are invited to participate. ℛonherry ☘ 18:08, 23 November 2023 (UTC)