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Our policy seems to be to use only official published FIDE ratings, right? (and not live ratings) At least that is what seems to be the policy, but I don't think it is written anywere. Is that the policy? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:53, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Problems in the last day or two:
And #1 and #2 are FIDE ratings, and live ratings aren't even FIDE ratings!!
Bubba73
You talkin' to me?
03:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Am confused, at all the piece articles (e.g. Knight (chess)), the lead sentence has parens ( ) after the piece name, but on my screen, it is just blanks. (Was there previously a symbol there? What happened? I don't understand the unicode template either, it seems to be without a parameter. But edit history doesn't tell me what was there.) Am totally confused, can someone explain? Thx. Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 02:15, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Unsurprisingly, the article Magnus Carlsen is getting filled with "live rating" information, and some people have also added it to the article's infobox (which ignores it). It has also led to a modification of the article Comparison of top chess players throughout history. Should we pay attention to it? Please discuss! :-) Toccata quarta ( talk) 20:18, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I have notability and COI concerns about Peter Lalić. The article was mainly edited by one editor, and that editor edits almost nothing else. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 19:09, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
When the January 2013 FIDE rating list is published, Carlsen will officially have the highest rating in history. Should this make the "In the news" section of the main page? It did report on the latest Chess Olympiad, and prominent individuals are often highlighted there (such as Ravi Shankar at the moment). I don't have any experience with nominating things for the main page, though. Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi all, I've spent an hour trying to sort out a mess that looked like this at Rohini Khadilkar. Not being a chess person, I don't understand some of the statements and have been unable to link some stuff (World Zonal Championships, for example). It is also devoid of sources, apart from a couple of not particularly useful external links. Can anyone here take this on? You'll probably know better where to look. - Sitush ( talk) 13:40, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I have just suggested on Talk:The Seventh Seal that the section of the article called "Chess in the film" be removed. If you are interested in the matter, please take a look at the section here: The_Seventh_Seal#Chess_in_the_film and drop by the talk page to make a comment. 99.192.64.215 ( talk) 17:18, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi guys, User:Alantheodoresherman needs help in bringing up Final Four of College Chess to WP:GOODARTICLE status. He just created it through the WP:AFC initiative and might be new to Wikipedia so please don't bite! — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 00:45, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
ω Awaiting Guys, I really really need your help with Alan. It seems that he has a lot of pictures for the Final Four but I'm not a member of this WikiProject nor have an interest on it. Could someone please help him and join us at the discussion on his talk page? Please remember that he is a newcomer and we should WP:NOBITE. — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 18:21, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Chess for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 04:44, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
There is a disagreement at Halibut gambit over whether it should be merged to English Opening. Anyone who has an opinion is invited to discuss it at Talk:Halibut gambit. Quale ( talk) 18:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of officers of the Oxford University Chess Club is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of officers of the Oxford University Chess Club until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- Ks0stm ( T• C• G• E) 18:25, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has Agdestein's 2004 book Wonderboy: How Magnus Carlsen became the Youngest Chess Grandmaster in the World. I'm planning to take the article to GAN soon, but the second paragraph of "Childhood" is lacking citations (and the section could probably be expanded). Will order if no-one here has access. Thanks, Sasata ( talk) 20:41, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
This article has just been promoted to GA status! Thanks to Toccata quarta for his helpful assistance in copyediting and finding sources. I will continue working on this article with an eye to FA candidacy sometime this year; I've recently received Wonderboy and am currently reading through it for stuff to add. Sasata ( talk) 15:50, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't think we need Category:European Chess Champions. According to WP:CAT, a category should be a "defining characteristic" of its subject. I don't think this category is a defining characteristic. In such cases a list is usually more appropriate than a category, and we have such a list at European Individual Chess Championship. I wanted to see what others in the project thought before nominating it at WP:CFD. What do you think? I have similar concerns about Category:Chess double grandmasters. Quale ( talk) 04:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
List of officers of the Oxford University Chess Club was up for AfD, which closed over a week ago with the consensus to merge. The article still exists and hasn't been merged. Does someone want to do that? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:02, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Anyone got any opinion on the recent and ongoing trash-talk and controversy about Wikipedia going on among "Chess.com" members on their site? Apparently they just can't understand that the "chess.com" article got deleted from Wikipedia in December and have been doing massive amounts of angry discussion and encouraging people to come on Wikipedia to disrupt it. Does anyone know about this, have any opinion about it, or about Chess.com in general? OGBranniff ( talk) 17:50, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
What is the middle name of Jude Acers? I reverted a recent change based on chessgames, but it has been changed again. Bubba73 You talkin' to me?
Hello. This chess related article is being discussed for deletion, comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julian Simpole are welcome. -- Vejvančický ( talk / contribs) 16:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Note that a chess-related biography is being discussed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor Buerger Dl2000 ( talk) 22:57, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
An AfD related to this project. J04n( talk page) 12:19, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Life Master (chess), Chess master, and Chess expert have been merged into Chess titles. Chess master is a title, but there is also a general notion of what a chess master is, predating the official titles. I do not think that it should be merged like this. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
I restored chess master to the way it was, but I left chess titles alone (for now). Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
There has been a batch of AFD's all with the same rational that fail is grasp the historical context of older chess masters. The grandmaster title started in 1950 so those of a previous era won't any such official title. If a worlds top 100 player from pre-1900 are not notable it's going to put consider impact on deleting grandmaster of the current era, some of which would NOT make the worlds top 1000 players. Regards, Sun Creator( talk) 12:40, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
I recently stumbled across Lawrence Trent, a one-line stub on an English IM. It was prodded for deletion and then sourced (sort of) and the prod removed. I don't think many IMs rise to the level of notability needed for Wikipedia articles, but am not going to nominate it for deletion myself as there are many articles about chess in England (and the rest of the UK) that (IMO) shouldn't have articles but do (and conversely others that don't have articles that should). I'm not sure I can be fully objective about this, though, as I know some of the people in question (the same applies to List of officers of the Oxford University Chess Club - it was quite bizarre seeing some names there that I recognise). Would it be OK if I made a list here of various articles that might not meet notability guidelines, or would it be best to read up on any specific guideline here first? I should note that I have created a few chess-related articles art various points: B. H. Wood, CHESS magazine, Phillips & Drew Kings, Karen Grigorian, American Chess Bulletin, and List of FIDE chess world number ones. Where would those lie on the spectrum of notability? Carcharoth ( talk) 02:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
i understand that this was meant as humor, but i'd like to point out that i found it offensive. Peace- קיפודנחש (aka kipod) ( talk) 08:41, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
User:OGBranniff, curious to know your opinion regarding the notability of this person: George H. D. Gossip. (Notable? Why or why not?) Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 06:05, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Should Permanent Commission of the FIDE for Chess Compositions be moved to the name of the new organization, the World Federation for Chess Composition? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 13:57, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Kerry Shirts was deleted years ago. It was recreated. Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point may apply. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:13, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
The article on Irina Krush, probably the United States' most foremost female player, is in sore need of expansion. Of paramount importance is getting some more photographs and images of Miss Krush in the article -- more recent photos and just better photos. How would we go about doing this? Anyone got any ideas? And how does Wikipedia commons relate to en.wikipedia.org for images? Thanks, OGBranniff ( talk) 07:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
The Azerbaijani Chess Championship is missing winners from all years from 1934 through 1994. (According to our article, the contest wasn't held every year until 1945, but we're still missing a lot.) Can anyone help with the missing data? Quale ( talk) 21:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I've read that Fischer had an amazing memory; that he remembered everything he read. I haven't been able to find a reference to that. I checked Endgame and Profile of a Prodigy, but there isn't anything in the index about it. Does anyone know of a reference about Fischer's memory? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
After discussion at
WP:Village_pump_(technical)#Display_Chess_games_.28with_animation.29_using_PGN_data, we reached consensus to work on adapting
User:קיפודנחש's animated PGN viewer into a
WP:Gadget. If the gadget is enabled the user will be able to step through the chess game move by move. If the gadget is disabled something simple will be shown instead, likely a static image or animated GIF of the board. In any case, it is important that the full list of moves be spelled out explicitly in the article text.
We will need plenty of space to discuss the work that needs to be done so I'm creating a subproject called "
PGN Chess Viewer." I hope that's ok. (Please tell me if it's not.) I hope you'll join us.
Mattj2 (
talk)
01:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone want to have a go at cleaning up the Kingston Defence article? It was written a few years ago by the author of a book on the opening, and it has some WP:TONE problems as it reads more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article. I had forgotten about this one, and I'm embarrassed to see that I wrote "coverage is pretty good" in a 2005 edit summary since the state of the article then was much as it is today. Quale ( talk) 01:56, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
The PROD was removed - it is now on AfD. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:30, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Comments are welcome here. Thanks, Toccata quarta ( talk) 19:10, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Does anyone else think that this is not an appropriate level of discourse for the front page of a public discussion board that is visited by women and children? Sasata ( talk) 21:20, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I converted the three glossary chess term wlinks found in section Pawn (chess)#Strategy to access the glossary a different way, via a {{Chessgloss}} template (that I tentatively created for trial & inspection).
I'd noticed in the lead to article Eight-ball, how template {{Cuegloss}} is being used to access Glossary of cue sports terms, so was curious to try it out. (I think there are plusses and minuses; what do others think?) Ok, Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 11:49, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Endgame tablebase briefly mentions DTZ (Depth To Zero). It says that it takes the fifty-move rule into account. But the April Chess Life, page 44, gives a position with two rooks and a knight versus a rook and a bishop that it sets a record DTZ of a win in 260 moves. But there are no pawns and at most four pieces can be captured, so how can it go 260 moves under the fifty-move rule? Can someone explain DTZ? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 14:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Looking at changes to the chess articles via the index, it looks like six chess articles were renamed today. It is hard to tell what all of them were. One was Tövshintögsiin Batchimeg, in which the first and last names were swapped, because of the way her name is (family name first).
It is important for the index of chess articles to list the exact article title so that changes to the articles will be listed under "related changes" to the index. Does anyone know how to find out all of the moved/renamed articles so the index can be updated? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:08, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
An editor keeps changing FIDE from "World Chess Federation" (which is what their website says) to "International Chess Federation", probably based on the French version of their name. Quale reverted it once a few days ago and I made a comment on the editor's talk page. The editor has done it again. It is "world", right? The editor jhas made similar edits to other articles within the last several days. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:38, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I just found his comments on the talk page of the redirect: Talk:World Chess Federation. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Wait! Back up! The second line of this topic says "French version of their name." But isn't their name in FRENCH? The "French version" of the name IS the name. Like if my name was Pierre the "French version" of my name would be Pierre. If FIDE was in English it would be the IFC. What are you talking about? Muskie72 ( talk) 21:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Chess-related deletion discussion. This one's featured (so far) one conflict-of-interest editor, one IP never commenting on any other topic and one claim of sockpuppet connections, so attention from neutral and uninvolved experts on the subject would be highly welcome. Sideways713 ( talk) 07:23, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
many of you guys are familiar with "pgn viewers" that exists outside wikipedia.
there is even a mediawiki extension that implements a pgn viewer. unfortunately, as code goes, the probability of this extension getting actually installed on any wikimedia wiki (such as the english wikipedia) is very low.
i developed a script that does part (most?) of what the familiar pgn viewer can do. i started a discussion about it in Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Display_chess_games_from_PGN_data, but then reslized that maybe here would be a better place.
in a nutshell: look at the demo page on hewiki, and read the discussion in village pump.
peace - קיפודנחש ( talk) 15:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello, this is a fascinating PGN-viewer, and its quality and complexity for a Javascript application inside Wikimedia is like a miracle for me.
I actually found this discussion here with a specific and rather useless idea in mind, that is: how could Wikipedia display an sample game for the longest possible chessgame, which due to the traditional Fifty-move rule should take 5899 moves. Now, a presentation with a Graphics Interchange Format (GIF), with one frame per half-move would take unnecessarily much storage space, and probably the number of possible frames for a GIF has a smaller upper limit (for example File:Mandelbrot sequence new.gif has 475 frames). On the other hand, creating a PGN file of a longest sample game would be much easier than of a GIF, and could be done half-automatized, or with copy- and paste techniques. Of course it then would be great, if it was possible to show this long game on a PGN-viewer within Wikipedia, Greetings Rosenkohl ( talk) 12:35, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
I am reviving this proposal at the village pump:
WP:Village_pump_(technical)#Display_Chess_games_.28with_animation.29_using_PGN_data
Nothing came of it the last time and I think it's important.
Mattj2 (
talk)
22:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
There have been a few requests at the Graphics Lab in recent years to add pieces to the chess diagram template, like the elephant and ship, and I've now started trying to complete a full set of fairy pieces and so forth. The work so far is
here and shows a comparison between the current set and the new pieces (I've been swapping some out for my own testing, but all the normal pieces are visible bottom-right). I've used the current images as a basis, as well as
this set from which the suggestions further down the page come.
I'm doing this as much for my own satisfaction as anything else, but I am very curious to know if this would be helpful to complete in its entirety. In my opinion the new pieces, being made at 26x26 instead of 45x45, look cleaner, but the main point of this is to give pieces more logical letters, instead of having inverted pieces throughout and various fairy pieces placed very oddly (fool at "t" for instance).
I also hope to condense the various chess diagrams into one multifunctional template, but that is something I will worry about later, if at all.
If you are keen to see any fairy pieces that aren't on the list of proposals, have any issues with the current placement of fairy pieces, or just want to tell me not to waste my time, please do get in touch, either on
the testing page or here. Cheers!
NikNaks
talk -
gallery
15:56, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Where is it? Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 18:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
There have been a lot of changes to checkmate recently, probably because it has been nominated for GA. One thing, though, most of the times when moves were given in columns, they have been rewritten to go in text. What do you feel about that? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 22:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Chess project members may want to get in on the GA discussion. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:38, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
This one's up for deletion again, after the original nomination closed as a WP:NPASR too-messy-to-judge and the next nomination had technical problems. Sideways713 ( talk) 16:06, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Does this Wikiproject have a leader, or "president" or anything? If not, I would like to nominate myself for the position. I oould really do this group a lot of good. It'll be good times. Brocktoon Belvedere ( talk) 20:54, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
It's too bad that chess diagrams are static images and require someone to read chess notation easily, thus making the articles less accessible. There's javascript libraries like jchess that allows us to generate diagrams that the user can manipulate easily (see examples). Albeit some small modifications, what kind of constraint exists in adopting this? Security constraints for example? 89.82.190.163 ( talk) 12:50, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
So i created a new template, {{ Chess diagram-fen}}, which is pretty similar in capabilities to {{ Chess diagram}}, except that you feed it the FEN string to draw the board. so instead of
{{Chess diagram | tright | |rd|nd|bd|qd|kd|bd|nd|rd |pd|pd|pd|pd| |pd|pd|pd | | | | | | | | | | | | |pd| | | | | | | |pl|pl| | | | | | | | | | |pl|pl|pl|pl| | |pl|pl |rl|nl|bl|ql|kl|bl|nl|rl | The King's Gambit }}
you write
{{Chess diagram-fen | fen=rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/4PP2/8/PPPP2PP/RNBQKBNR | align=tright | footer=The King's Gamit }}
i will be happy to hear what you guys think. also, let me know if there's any missing feature, or if you have problems seeing the template with any specific browser, esp. older version of IE, and any mobile browser.
currently, the {{ Chess diagram-fen}} template only deals with 8x8 boards, and does not support any of the "special" features, such as drawing X's and O's, digits, or fairy pieces. it *does* have one feature the regular template doesn't — it can display the board from the black's point of view, i.e. with h8 at the lower left corner.
the main thing, in my mind, is switching from the tedious and non-standard format of Template:Chess diagram to a standard and ubiquitous FEN notation. however, there is one additional advantage: wikipedia saves it more than twice as fast as it saves the existing template: e.g., User:קיפודנחש/sandbox contains 36 instances of Template:Chess diagram, and takes about 45 seconds to save, and in contrast User:קיפודנחש/sandbox2 contains 80 instances of Template:Chess diagram-fen, and takes less than 40 seconds to save. i do not believe it's even possible to have 80 instances of Template:Chess diagram on one page on enwiki — it would blow up with error/timeout when you try to save it.
peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) ( talk) 07:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
There is more discussion of it
here and
here.
Bubba73
You talkin' to me?
05:48, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm working on a program to convert the diagrams in an article from the old format to the FEN format. I just did it to Rook and pawn versus rook endgame. My informal tests show the FEN version to be quite a bit faster when bringing up an article with a large number of diagrams to edit and to save it. This article has nearly 50 diagrams. To bring it up to edit with the old diagrams took about 23 seconds. With the FEN diagrams it takes about 7 seconds. To save it with the old diagrams took about 50 seconds but about 10-12 with the FEN diagrams. So it makes editing articles with a large number of diagrams nicer.
There are a couple of drawbacks to the FEN diagrams, though.
There are quite a few Category:Chess_variants. I'm wondering if there should be a category for them in index of chess articles, like "general", "tournaments", "openings", and "biographies". Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:30, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
{{ Chess board2}} has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 ( talk) 23:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
From Talk:Eric Schiller:
Fair-minded guy that I am, I have now sought out and referred to in the article a very favorable review by Jeremy Silman of Watson and Schiller's The Big Book of Busts (despite Google's suggestion that I search for The Big Book of Breasts instead, the title refers to "busts" of dubious opening lines). Krakatoa (talk) 12:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 22:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
See Template talk:Chess diagram#New version of this template. Frietjes ( talk) 19:26, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
File:12 players chess board.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 ( talk) 06:26, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure what Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/chess.com player is supposed to mean, but it may be worth keeping an eye close to it. Toccata quarta ( talk) 04:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I like the new way chess diagrams are done. But comparing the new ones to my memory of the old ones, the pieces look fuzzy. Has anyone else noticed this? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:01, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
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I just created a new chess article. How does it become part of WikiProject Chess? Is it automatic via some sort of Bot search? Do I need to nominate or submit it somewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrZukhar ( talk • contribs) 08:03, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
I hope I am posting this in the right place. I have an idea for a new Wikipedia article. The topic will be the "Great Terror" in the Stalinist USSR and its effect on the chess program in the Soviet Union. I have been studying the Stalinist system in school lately. I was wondering if this was an appropriate chess topic and if anyone had any ideas about sources for the article. I have the "Soviet School of Chess," but that won't help in this case, since that book is basically state propaganda. Any help is greatly appreciated. Muskie72 ( talk) 23:51, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 20 | ← | Archive 22 | Archive 23 | Archive 24 | Archive 25 | Archive 26 | → | Archive 30 |
Our policy seems to be to use only official published FIDE ratings, right? (and not live ratings) At least that is what seems to be the policy, but I don't think it is written anywere. Is that the policy? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:53, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Problems in the last day or two:
And #1 and #2 are FIDE ratings, and live ratings aren't even FIDE ratings!!
Bubba73
You talkin' to me?
03:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Am confused, at all the piece articles (e.g. Knight (chess)), the lead sentence has parens ( ) after the piece name, but on my screen, it is just blanks. (Was there previously a symbol there? What happened? I don't understand the unicode template either, it seems to be without a parameter. But edit history doesn't tell me what was there.) Am totally confused, can someone explain? Thx. Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 02:15, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Unsurprisingly, the article Magnus Carlsen is getting filled with "live rating" information, and some people have also added it to the article's infobox (which ignores it). It has also led to a modification of the article Comparison of top chess players throughout history. Should we pay attention to it? Please discuss! :-) Toccata quarta ( talk) 20:18, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I have notability and COI concerns about Peter Lalić. The article was mainly edited by one editor, and that editor edits almost nothing else. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 19:09, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
When the January 2013 FIDE rating list is published, Carlsen will officially have the highest rating in history. Should this make the "In the news" section of the main page? It did report on the latest Chess Olympiad, and prominent individuals are often highlighted there (such as Ravi Shankar at the moment). I don't have any experience with nominating things for the main page, though. Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi all, I've spent an hour trying to sort out a mess that looked like this at Rohini Khadilkar. Not being a chess person, I don't understand some of the statements and have been unable to link some stuff (World Zonal Championships, for example). It is also devoid of sources, apart from a couple of not particularly useful external links. Can anyone here take this on? You'll probably know better where to look. - Sitush ( talk) 13:40, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I have just suggested on Talk:The Seventh Seal that the section of the article called "Chess in the film" be removed. If you are interested in the matter, please take a look at the section here: The_Seventh_Seal#Chess_in_the_film and drop by the talk page to make a comment. 99.192.64.215 ( talk) 17:18, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi guys, User:Alantheodoresherman needs help in bringing up Final Four of College Chess to WP:GOODARTICLE status. He just created it through the WP:AFC initiative and might be new to Wikipedia so please don't bite! — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 00:45, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
ω Awaiting Guys, I really really need your help with Alan. It seems that he has a lot of pictures for the Final Four but I'm not a member of this WikiProject nor have an interest on it. Could someone please help him and join us at the discussion on his talk page? Please remember that he is a newcomer and we should WP:NOBITE. — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 18:21, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Chess for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 04:44, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
There is a disagreement at Halibut gambit over whether it should be merged to English Opening. Anyone who has an opinion is invited to discuss it at Talk:Halibut gambit. Quale ( talk) 18:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of officers of the Oxford University Chess Club is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of officers of the Oxford University Chess Club until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- Ks0stm ( T• C• G• E) 18:25, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has Agdestein's 2004 book Wonderboy: How Magnus Carlsen became the Youngest Chess Grandmaster in the World. I'm planning to take the article to GAN soon, but the second paragraph of "Childhood" is lacking citations (and the section could probably be expanded). Will order if no-one here has access. Thanks, Sasata ( talk) 20:41, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
This article has just been promoted to GA status! Thanks to Toccata quarta for his helpful assistance in copyediting and finding sources. I will continue working on this article with an eye to FA candidacy sometime this year; I've recently received Wonderboy and am currently reading through it for stuff to add. Sasata ( talk) 15:50, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't think we need Category:European Chess Champions. According to WP:CAT, a category should be a "defining characteristic" of its subject. I don't think this category is a defining characteristic. In such cases a list is usually more appropriate than a category, and we have such a list at European Individual Chess Championship. I wanted to see what others in the project thought before nominating it at WP:CFD. What do you think? I have similar concerns about Category:Chess double grandmasters. Quale ( talk) 04:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
List of officers of the Oxford University Chess Club was up for AfD, which closed over a week ago with the consensus to merge. The article still exists and hasn't been merged. Does someone want to do that? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:02, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Anyone got any opinion on the recent and ongoing trash-talk and controversy about Wikipedia going on among "Chess.com" members on their site? Apparently they just can't understand that the "chess.com" article got deleted from Wikipedia in December and have been doing massive amounts of angry discussion and encouraging people to come on Wikipedia to disrupt it. Does anyone know about this, have any opinion about it, or about Chess.com in general? OGBranniff ( talk) 17:50, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
What is the middle name of Jude Acers? I reverted a recent change based on chessgames, but it has been changed again. Bubba73 You talkin' to me?
Hello. This chess related article is being discussed for deletion, comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julian Simpole are welcome. -- Vejvančický ( talk / contribs) 16:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Note that a chess-related biography is being discussed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor Buerger Dl2000 ( talk) 22:57, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
An AfD related to this project. J04n( talk page) 12:19, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Life Master (chess), Chess master, and Chess expert have been merged into Chess titles. Chess master is a title, but there is also a general notion of what a chess master is, predating the official titles. I do not think that it should be merged like this. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
I restored chess master to the way it was, but I left chess titles alone (for now). Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
There has been a batch of AFD's all with the same rational that fail is grasp the historical context of older chess masters. The grandmaster title started in 1950 so those of a previous era won't any such official title. If a worlds top 100 player from pre-1900 are not notable it's going to put consider impact on deleting grandmaster of the current era, some of which would NOT make the worlds top 1000 players. Regards, Sun Creator( talk) 12:40, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
I recently stumbled across Lawrence Trent, a one-line stub on an English IM. It was prodded for deletion and then sourced (sort of) and the prod removed. I don't think many IMs rise to the level of notability needed for Wikipedia articles, but am not going to nominate it for deletion myself as there are many articles about chess in England (and the rest of the UK) that (IMO) shouldn't have articles but do (and conversely others that don't have articles that should). I'm not sure I can be fully objective about this, though, as I know some of the people in question (the same applies to List of officers of the Oxford University Chess Club - it was quite bizarre seeing some names there that I recognise). Would it be OK if I made a list here of various articles that might not meet notability guidelines, or would it be best to read up on any specific guideline here first? I should note that I have created a few chess-related articles art various points: B. H. Wood, CHESS magazine, Phillips & Drew Kings, Karen Grigorian, American Chess Bulletin, and List of FIDE chess world number ones. Where would those lie on the spectrum of notability? Carcharoth ( talk) 02:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
i understand that this was meant as humor, but i'd like to point out that i found it offensive. Peace- קיפודנחש (aka kipod) ( talk) 08:41, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
User:OGBranniff, curious to know your opinion regarding the notability of this person: George H. D. Gossip. (Notable? Why or why not?) Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 06:05, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Should Permanent Commission of the FIDE for Chess Compositions be moved to the name of the new organization, the World Federation for Chess Composition? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 13:57, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Kerry Shirts was deleted years ago. It was recreated. Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point may apply. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:13, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
The article on Irina Krush, probably the United States' most foremost female player, is in sore need of expansion. Of paramount importance is getting some more photographs and images of Miss Krush in the article -- more recent photos and just better photos. How would we go about doing this? Anyone got any ideas? And how does Wikipedia commons relate to en.wikipedia.org for images? Thanks, OGBranniff ( talk) 07:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
The Azerbaijani Chess Championship is missing winners from all years from 1934 through 1994. (According to our article, the contest wasn't held every year until 1945, but we're still missing a lot.) Can anyone help with the missing data? Quale ( talk) 21:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I've read that Fischer had an amazing memory; that he remembered everything he read. I haven't been able to find a reference to that. I checked Endgame and Profile of a Prodigy, but there isn't anything in the index about it. Does anyone know of a reference about Fischer's memory? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
After discussion at
WP:Village_pump_(technical)#Display_Chess_games_.28with_animation.29_using_PGN_data, we reached consensus to work on adapting
User:קיפודנחש's animated PGN viewer into a
WP:Gadget. If the gadget is enabled the user will be able to step through the chess game move by move. If the gadget is disabled something simple will be shown instead, likely a static image or animated GIF of the board. In any case, it is important that the full list of moves be spelled out explicitly in the article text.
We will need plenty of space to discuss the work that needs to be done so I'm creating a subproject called "
PGN Chess Viewer." I hope that's ok. (Please tell me if it's not.) I hope you'll join us.
Mattj2 (
talk)
01:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone want to have a go at cleaning up the Kingston Defence article? It was written a few years ago by the author of a book on the opening, and it has some WP:TONE problems as it reads more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article. I had forgotten about this one, and I'm embarrassed to see that I wrote "coverage is pretty good" in a 2005 edit summary since the state of the article then was much as it is today. Quale ( talk) 01:56, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
The PROD was removed - it is now on AfD. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:30, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Comments are welcome here. Thanks, Toccata quarta ( talk) 19:10, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Does anyone else think that this is not an appropriate level of discourse for the front page of a public discussion board that is visited by women and children? Sasata ( talk) 21:20, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I converted the three glossary chess term wlinks found in section Pawn (chess)#Strategy to access the glossary a different way, via a {{Chessgloss}} template (that I tentatively created for trial & inspection).
I'd noticed in the lead to article Eight-ball, how template {{Cuegloss}} is being used to access Glossary of cue sports terms, so was curious to try it out. (I think there are plusses and minuses; what do others think?) Ok, Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 11:49, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Endgame tablebase briefly mentions DTZ (Depth To Zero). It says that it takes the fifty-move rule into account. But the April Chess Life, page 44, gives a position with two rooks and a knight versus a rook and a bishop that it sets a record DTZ of a win in 260 moves. But there are no pawns and at most four pieces can be captured, so how can it go 260 moves under the fifty-move rule? Can someone explain DTZ? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 14:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Looking at changes to the chess articles via the index, it looks like six chess articles were renamed today. It is hard to tell what all of them were. One was Tövshintögsiin Batchimeg, in which the first and last names were swapped, because of the way her name is (family name first).
It is important for the index of chess articles to list the exact article title so that changes to the articles will be listed under "related changes" to the index. Does anyone know how to find out all of the moved/renamed articles so the index can be updated? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:08, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
An editor keeps changing FIDE from "World Chess Federation" (which is what their website says) to "International Chess Federation", probably based on the French version of their name. Quale reverted it once a few days ago and I made a comment on the editor's talk page. The editor has done it again. It is "world", right? The editor jhas made similar edits to other articles within the last several days. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:38, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I just found his comments on the talk page of the redirect: Talk:World Chess Federation. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Wait! Back up! The second line of this topic says "French version of their name." But isn't their name in FRENCH? The "French version" of the name IS the name. Like if my name was Pierre the "French version" of my name would be Pierre. If FIDE was in English it would be the IFC. What are you talking about? Muskie72 ( talk) 21:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Chess-related deletion discussion. This one's featured (so far) one conflict-of-interest editor, one IP never commenting on any other topic and one claim of sockpuppet connections, so attention from neutral and uninvolved experts on the subject would be highly welcome. Sideways713 ( talk) 07:23, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
many of you guys are familiar with "pgn viewers" that exists outside wikipedia.
there is even a mediawiki extension that implements a pgn viewer. unfortunately, as code goes, the probability of this extension getting actually installed on any wikimedia wiki (such as the english wikipedia) is very low.
i developed a script that does part (most?) of what the familiar pgn viewer can do. i started a discussion about it in Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Display_chess_games_from_PGN_data, but then reslized that maybe here would be a better place.
in a nutshell: look at the demo page on hewiki, and read the discussion in village pump.
peace - קיפודנחש ( talk) 15:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello, this is a fascinating PGN-viewer, and its quality and complexity for a Javascript application inside Wikimedia is like a miracle for me.
I actually found this discussion here with a specific and rather useless idea in mind, that is: how could Wikipedia display an sample game for the longest possible chessgame, which due to the traditional Fifty-move rule should take 5899 moves. Now, a presentation with a Graphics Interchange Format (GIF), with one frame per half-move would take unnecessarily much storage space, and probably the number of possible frames for a GIF has a smaller upper limit (for example File:Mandelbrot sequence new.gif has 475 frames). On the other hand, creating a PGN file of a longest sample game would be much easier than of a GIF, and could be done half-automatized, or with copy- and paste techniques. Of course it then would be great, if it was possible to show this long game on a PGN-viewer within Wikipedia, Greetings Rosenkohl ( talk) 12:35, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
I am reviving this proposal at the village pump:
WP:Village_pump_(technical)#Display_Chess_games_.28with_animation.29_using_PGN_data
Nothing came of it the last time and I think it's important.
Mattj2 (
talk)
22:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
There have been a few requests at the Graphics Lab in recent years to add pieces to the chess diagram template, like the elephant and ship, and I've now started trying to complete a full set of fairy pieces and so forth. The work so far is
here and shows a comparison between the current set and the new pieces (I've been swapping some out for my own testing, but all the normal pieces are visible bottom-right). I've used the current images as a basis, as well as
this set from which the suggestions further down the page come.
I'm doing this as much for my own satisfaction as anything else, but I am very curious to know if this would be helpful to complete in its entirety. In my opinion the new pieces, being made at 26x26 instead of 45x45, look cleaner, but the main point of this is to give pieces more logical letters, instead of having inverted pieces throughout and various fairy pieces placed very oddly (fool at "t" for instance).
I also hope to condense the various chess diagrams into one multifunctional template, but that is something I will worry about later, if at all.
If you are keen to see any fairy pieces that aren't on the list of proposals, have any issues with the current placement of fairy pieces, or just want to tell me not to waste my time, please do get in touch, either on
the testing page or here. Cheers!
NikNaks
talk -
gallery
15:56, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Where is it? Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 18:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
There have been a lot of changes to checkmate recently, probably because it has been nominated for GA. One thing, though, most of the times when moves were given in columns, they have been rewritten to go in text. What do you feel about that? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 22:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Chess project members may want to get in on the GA discussion. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:38, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
This one's up for deletion again, after the original nomination closed as a WP:NPASR too-messy-to-judge and the next nomination had technical problems. Sideways713 ( talk) 16:06, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Does this Wikiproject have a leader, or "president" or anything? If not, I would like to nominate myself for the position. I oould really do this group a lot of good. It'll be good times. Brocktoon Belvedere ( talk) 20:54, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
It's too bad that chess diagrams are static images and require someone to read chess notation easily, thus making the articles less accessible. There's javascript libraries like jchess that allows us to generate diagrams that the user can manipulate easily (see examples). Albeit some small modifications, what kind of constraint exists in adopting this? Security constraints for example? 89.82.190.163 ( talk) 12:50, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
So i created a new template, {{ Chess diagram-fen}}, which is pretty similar in capabilities to {{ Chess diagram}}, except that you feed it the FEN string to draw the board. so instead of
{{Chess diagram | tright | |rd|nd|bd|qd|kd|bd|nd|rd |pd|pd|pd|pd| |pd|pd|pd | | | | | | | | | | | | |pd| | | | | | | |pl|pl| | | | | | | | | | |pl|pl|pl|pl| | |pl|pl |rl|nl|bl|ql|kl|bl|nl|rl | The King's Gambit }}
you write
{{Chess diagram-fen | fen=rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/4PP2/8/PPPP2PP/RNBQKBNR | align=tright | footer=The King's Gamit }}
i will be happy to hear what you guys think. also, let me know if there's any missing feature, or if you have problems seeing the template with any specific browser, esp. older version of IE, and any mobile browser.
currently, the {{ Chess diagram-fen}} template only deals with 8x8 boards, and does not support any of the "special" features, such as drawing X's and O's, digits, or fairy pieces. it *does* have one feature the regular template doesn't — it can display the board from the black's point of view, i.e. with h8 at the lower left corner.
the main thing, in my mind, is switching from the tedious and non-standard format of Template:Chess diagram to a standard and ubiquitous FEN notation. however, there is one additional advantage: wikipedia saves it more than twice as fast as it saves the existing template: e.g., User:קיפודנחש/sandbox contains 36 instances of Template:Chess diagram, and takes about 45 seconds to save, and in contrast User:קיפודנחש/sandbox2 contains 80 instances of Template:Chess diagram-fen, and takes less than 40 seconds to save. i do not believe it's even possible to have 80 instances of Template:Chess diagram on one page on enwiki — it would blow up with error/timeout when you try to save it.
peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) ( talk) 07:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
There is more discussion of it
here and
here.
Bubba73
You talkin' to me?
05:48, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm working on a program to convert the diagrams in an article from the old format to the FEN format. I just did it to Rook and pawn versus rook endgame. My informal tests show the FEN version to be quite a bit faster when bringing up an article with a large number of diagrams to edit and to save it. This article has nearly 50 diagrams. To bring it up to edit with the old diagrams took about 23 seconds. With the FEN diagrams it takes about 7 seconds. To save it with the old diagrams took about 50 seconds but about 10-12 with the FEN diagrams. So it makes editing articles with a large number of diagrams nicer.
There are a couple of drawbacks to the FEN diagrams, though.
There are quite a few Category:Chess_variants. I'm wondering if there should be a category for them in index of chess articles, like "general", "tournaments", "openings", and "biographies". Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:30, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
{{ Chess board2}} has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 ( talk) 23:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
From Talk:Eric Schiller:
Fair-minded guy that I am, I have now sought out and referred to in the article a very favorable review by Jeremy Silman of Watson and Schiller's The Big Book of Busts (despite Google's suggestion that I search for The Big Book of Breasts instead, the title refers to "busts" of dubious opening lines). Krakatoa (talk) 12:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 22:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
See Template talk:Chess diagram#New version of this template. Frietjes ( talk) 19:26, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
File:12 players chess board.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 ( talk) 06:26, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure what Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/chess.com player is supposed to mean, but it may be worth keeping an eye close to it. Toccata quarta ( talk) 04:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I like the new way chess diagrams are done. But comparing the new ones to my memory of the old ones, the pieces look fuzzy. Has anyone else noticed this? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:01, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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I just created a new chess article. How does it become part of WikiProject Chess? Is it automatic via some sort of Bot search? Do I need to nominate or submit it somewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrZukhar ( talk • contribs) 08:03, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
I hope I am posting this in the right place. I have an idea for a new Wikipedia article. The topic will be the "Great Terror" in the Stalinist USSR and its effect on the chess program in the Soviet Union. I have been studying the Stalinist system in school lately. I was wondering if this was an appropriate chess topic and if anyone had any ideas about sources for the article. I have the "Soviet School of Chess," but that won't help in this case, since that book is basically state propaganda. Any help is greatly appreciated. Muskie72 ( talk) 23:51, 8 April 2013 (UTC)