Not sure if this is the appropriate place to mention, but I have taken Joel Case (associate professor of chemistry at University of Wisconsin Marathon County) to AfD, largely because of material with BLP concerns in the article history. I haven't found anything that would meet WP:PROF via Google/Google Scholar, but don't have access to chemistry publication databases, so I might be missing something. Regards, Espresso Addict ( talk) 15:23, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bduke, I've talked with you before (above on this page) so I wonder if you can provide some insight on an unusual situation I've come across. I saw a number of accounts with similar-looking names, so I went to Special:Listusers and found 8 accounts with that name:
It's transparently obvious that these are students in an American graduate school. "Chem 540" is the course number. I take courses in Chem. 504, 511, and 531, so the numbers make sense. There are 8 groups (grp1, grp2, etc.) and f08 refers to the fall 2008 semester. The instructor evidently assigned the students to split into groups of between 2 and 4 students to work on one or two Wikipedia articles between them.
The articles of interest are:
Here are the issues of concern to me:
Thanks for looking into this. (By the way, I'm curious which university this might be. It certainly isn't mine.) Crystal whacker ( talk) 22:11, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, both CW and Itub. I glanced at the start of this discussion before I went out this morning and I have been off WP all day. Having students edit WP is not prohibited and indeed it can be a useful educational approach which we should encourage. The addresses do look like groups but they may be very small groups and they could be considered as the name of the group spokesperson. I'll try to look more at them later, but welcome comment here. We need to get in contact with the instructor if we can. -- Bduke (Discussion) 08:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I know, why don't we declare all the members of these each student account meatpuppets of each other, on grounds that they all know the same things about chemistry? Then, we can treat the individuals as though they were single accounts. Oh, wait-- we're doing that already, automatically. Bummer. S B H arris 09:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
The participants in this course and their instructor might like to look at Wikipedia:School and university projects. -- Bduke (Discussion) 22:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all for your feedback. The Chem540 class is mine. It is called "Organic Principles" but as you have deduced, the material is largely classic physical organic chemistry. I am an assistant professor in the chemistry department at the University of Michigan and I initiated this project this term. The idea was for the students to work collaboratively (in groups of 3) on improving (or creating) a site in wikipedia that has relevance to our course material. I think it was quite successful, though I now realize that there are complexities to updating a WP site to which I was originally unaware. I will check out the Wikipedia site for school projects and I am happy to get feedback on how to improve this project for future classes. I will say that I encouraged the students to use original literature for references and that all the figures were made by the students themselves. Our goal was not to make it a "Chemical Review" article but to give more information, and in many cases, updated examples of usefulness. ajm_mich —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC).
All images were created by the students in chemdraw or similar programs. In some cases, they were trying to reproduce an image from a paper. What do I need to do to restore the images? Also, the site on Benson Group Increment Theory was proposed for deletion. Why? Thanks! Ajm mich ( talk) 16:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)ajm_mich
FYI -- I am about to start this project again (with some improvements) in my new course, Chem 538 "organic chemistry of macromolecules" here at the University of Michigan. I was planning on using group usernames (1 name for 2 students) like I did before. For example, "chem538grp1w09" would be one. If the students do not use this after this course, can we still do this? This term I will hand out more information on how to properly update wikipedia and create and upload images (and point them to the tutorials by Bill Wedemeyer at MSU!). I am open to more suggestions for improvements if you have any. There are 6 groups this term and I am going to let them do either a topic or person in polymer chemistry. I will post the list of topics here if you want to keep an eye on them :-) Ajm mich ( talk) 19:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Have you taken a look at Schools and Universities Projects? It might have useful information for you. I'd suggest that the first thing your students do, is to come by, say hello, and introduce their planned work. That would be better than for us to search for them. There're lots of us here, and being aware of who they are and what they're doing might allow us to help them better. -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 02:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
This project is nearing its end for this semester and some of my students have posted their new/revised sites online. The topics this term are:
Please take a look and let me know if you have any suggestions/concerns/comments. Ajm mich ( talk) 15:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Not to get sidetracked with account sharing issues: OrphanBot has already removed this image: Image:Crystal1.jpg. I suspect that the students made these images themselves in most cases. It's within a first-year graduate student's ability to draw something like that with help from software. Can anything be done to rescue the image, or will it be deleted? Crystal whacker ( talk) 15:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I think this unreferenced article is wrong in the first paragraph, claiming "The prefix thio-... denotes that there is at least one extra sulfur atom added to the... root word". I've always thought thio indicates sulfur replacing oxygen, as in thiosulfate, thioether, thioester, thiourea etc.
The specific example given, thiocyanate, doesn't make sense - it's cyanate with O replaced by S, not cyanide with S added. However, thiocyanate is sometimes called thiocyanide, I gather.
Any comments?
Ben ( talk) 23:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi everybody, I thought I'd ask our sister project for some help. The American Society for Cell Biology is hosting a workshop this Tuesday, the 16th, to give their scientists a crash course in editing Wikipedia (see User:Proteins for more details). The workshop will focus on creating biochemistry and cell biology articles with the aim of quickly improving them to GA or eventually FA quality. Proteins and I are running the workshop, but we could benefit from your help! We'd like to find friendly, online Wikipedians who will greet the newbie scientists and offer to help them with their nascent articles.
The workshop will run from 12:30-2:30pm local San Francisco time. We will be speaking until ~1pm, and the participants won't start their user pages until 12:45pm at the earliest. We'll ask them to add the template {{ ASCB workshop}} to their user page, which will add them to the Category:ASCB 2008 Wikipedia workshop participants category. Then you'll be able to see who's participating and welcome them. Other help with categorization, finding/formatting images and references, etc. would be great as well.
Any help bringing these fellow scientists into the community would be much appreciated! Tim Vickers ( talk) 14:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Somebody should look at this user's contributions. It may be well intentioned, but as far as I can tell they have put links to the Strem catalogue for about 2 dozen organometallic compounds. Don't have time to revert them all myself, but somebody might feel the need. It might be well intentioned, but it might not; I'm sure it violates some guidelines somewhere... Chris ( talk) 20:59, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a little heads up, you might be interested in having Article Alerts for the Chem project. It's an automatic article monitoring system that notifies you about stuff going on for articles, such as PR, AfD, etc... You can find a sample output here User:B. Wolterding/Article alerts#Samples. And if you're not interested, well move on as if nothing happened. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 17:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Since when was it decided that images like File:Ammonium-formate-2D.png should be replaced by crystal structures?
Ben ( talk) 12:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
I wanted to check if the issue has been discussed here before. I've followed your suggestion here.
Ben ( talk) 13:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
There are some nice examples of coordination geometry on Commons, e.g. File:NaCl polyhedra.png or File:CaF2 polyhedra.png. I've started uploading similar things (e.g. Commons:Category:Strontium iodide) but have only added them to a few articles, like copper monosulfide. I'm working on an extended image for tetraphenylphosphonium chloride.
Maybe Smokefoot is right and "gas-phase structures" of ion pairs would be better placed in the body text of the article rather than the chembox, but I still think such images are useful, particularly to casual readers who will appreciate an explanation (or reminder) of the most fundamental building blocks of a given compound. I wouldn't like to see them disappear completely.
Ben ( talk) 18:45, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
The concept of a reactivity series is taught in UK at GCSE and A Level as a "practical" guide to the relative reactivity of metals with H2 and C thrown in for comparison purposes. In the US it appears from the discussion that the term reactivity series may be used as a synonym for the electrochemical series, (redox potentials) - could a US educator clarify the position?. To avoid cross editing by well meaning students from the UK and US (which has certainly corrupted the original "correct" UK list and may not be in line with US list either), I suggest that we rename the existing article to "Reactivity series-UK" and, if necessary, create a new article "Reactivity series-US". - Axiosaurus ( talk) 14:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Chemistry. I come to ask a question regarding the article Salt analysis. In its present form, it obviously requires some serious clean-up and translation into an encyclopedic tone but, as a humble social scientist, I cannot tell whether or not the subject itself is of encyclopedic merit or is original research. I would hate to nominate it for deletion only to find that is a very noteworthy and well-known topic; I would also be loathe, however, to allow original research or unencyclopedic material to remain. Anyhow, if anyone could offer any advice/suggestions/help, I would appreciate it. Cheers, CP 03:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard it by this name, but the content at a quick glance sounds right. Don't care for the snarky last line, though. Also, WP:NOT a cookbook, so there is no need to reproduce a table. Redirected it. -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 03:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I just want to inform you that a platform to access the on-line databases was developed on the toolserver. This tool was developed by de:Magnus and is based on the CAS number and used a formated url like this one: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/cas.php?cas=74-90-8&language=en. The links on this platform allow to access directly to the component page of the databases. Other databases can be added with Template:CasTemplate. The french wiki developed a specific template fr:modèle:CAS which checks the validity of the CAS number and opens the tool on the toolserver. This template is implemented in the infobox of each chemical (see fr:Méthanol and click on the CAS number in the infobox). Biglama ( talk) 10:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC) 11:12, 9. Jan. 2009 (CET)
Hydronium has shown up at WP:RM to be renamed to Hydroxonium and subsequently redirect to the Hydron article. See Talk:Hydronium 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 22:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I've never found it harder to start a new article... Help needed! -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 02:41, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
This article has been proposed as a featured article. It is listed under the Chemistry WikiProject, so please take a look and comment here. Thank you.— RJH ( talk) 23:00, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
This issue came up during the FAC:
I've been told that the quotes statement is true, and it seems to be to the best of my understanding, but apparently this reviewer holds it as dubious. Could somebody help? Thanks.— RJH ( talk) 17:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unhexseptium. Elements 167 to 173 have been sent for deletion as pure speculation. Note that even the chemical properties cannot be predicted, since some theories say that no electrons can be added to the electron shells beyond 139. 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 00:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to amend the goals section? I suggest including more pages relating to chemistry and environmental issues. Chemistry is integral to environmental issues--many do not realize this and therefore do not understand the issues as well. Since the environment is more widely talked about presently than several years ago, it seems appropriate to be a priority in this project's scope. Freefighter ( talk) 21:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Hydrino theory is up for renaming again... 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 04:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I take requests for drawing molecules and reaction schemes. You can make a request here -- DFS454 ( talk) 13:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know the English word for Hägg-Diagramm? Hägg diagram, Speciation diagram, pH diagram, …? Or is there even already an article present covering this topic (other than Speciation of ions)? -- Leyo 19:30, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
List of chemical compounds with unusual names has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 05:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if it would be possible and useful to consider the article Glass (and all other articles in the Category Glass) within the chemistry project. Among all projects, chemistry seems to be the most appropriate to me, and I doubt that at present an independent project could be started based on the glass topic or materials science alone. The article Glass has currently only B-quality, but its importance was rated as top, which I think should stimulate to improve it significantly. Among the things to is in my opinion the following:
What do you think? Would there maybe even a collaboration of the month possible? Thank you. -- Afluegel ( talk) 12:50, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Periodic table (extended) has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 04:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I have started a discussion regarding how to categorize pharmacology at WP:PHARM:CAT. Perhaps some of you could participate in the discussion as well? kilbad ( talk) 13:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Is this a vanity piece? Or a UFO abduction fan piece? I stumbled across it while searching for 2-chloro-4,6-dimethoxy-1,3,5-triazine; I've never seen such an extensive publication list for any chemist before! Pisa is a major university, but I don't think this list is appropriate even if the guy is notable. The page got 314 hits last month. How should we proceed? Walkerma ( talk) 05:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
The PROD has been contested but I restored Dirk's edit which has also been reverted. Is it really sufficiently unsourced and not notable to go to AfD? -- Bduke (Discussion) 23:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
New article, welcome comments and edits! -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 19:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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I thought this WikiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 21:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:Proton#Why so short? for the current discussion on expanding that article. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 03:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Chemical warfare for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.
Could someone have a look at rewriting Free energy perturbation for clarity. I marked it as confusing half a year ago, and there has been no editing since. It is not accessible to the lay reader. Thanks, NJGW ( talk) 18:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Water fluoridation ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated as a featured article. If you have the time and the inclination to review it, please weigh in at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Water fluoridation. In particular, a review of its Mechanism section would be appreciated, as that contains some details about the chemistry involved. Thanks. Eubulides ( talk) 21:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
There is a suggestion to move Blackwater Worldwide to Xe and moving that page to Xe (disambiguation) 76.66.196.229 ( talk) 05:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, it was pointed out on
Talk:Cellulose that our structure
is incorrect; I have since replaced it with the correct
. However there is a concern that the space-filling images and hydrogen-bond images shown on
Cellulose
are also incorrect. Could somebody please check these? Thank you,
AxelBoldt (
talk) 19:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
The current Wikipedia article (17feb09) on the Clark electrode shows an electrode reaction of O2 + 2 e- + 2 H2O => H2O2 + 2 OH- I expected instead a reaction of O2 + 4 e- + 2 H2O => 4 OH-
Is there really a net production of H2O2? I haven't heard of that before. If not, is at least the existence of H2O2 as intermediary product proven (that is then further converted through H2O2 + 2e- => 2 OH-)? Even if H2O2 exists as intermediary, the important net equation would have 4 electrons for each O2 molecule, and should be shown that way, because the oxygen sensing relies on measuring all the electrons.
Could someone who has experience with Wikipedia editing look into my questions and, if needed, change the article?
Thanks,
Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.64.0.252 ( talk) 00:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I've attempted to improve the acyl chloride reaction, now finding it has quite a bit of overlap with the acyl halide article. Should we redirect acyl halide into acyl chloride, making acyl halide a subsection? Acyl chlorides are afterall, the most significant of the acyl halides. -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 20:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Isn't acetyl iodide an important intermediate in the Monsanto process?
Ben ( talk) 18:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm letting you guys know about it because a lot of what is said there is also relevant for you guys. Plus your feedback would definitely be both relevant and appreciated. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 04:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
In the text it is stated that upon oxidation of L-Mannose or D-Mannose a Manneric acid which is Achiral is produced, this can not be since all the stereo centers are (S) for D-Mannose derived acid and (R) for L-Mannose derived acid.
A big hello to everyone here! I am "Ylidene" and a newbie to wikipedia. I am an organometallic chemist trying my best to promote chemistry in general, which is my passion. I hope to do so by using this platform. Being new to this, I would be grateful for any advice, help and suggestions. So feel free to drop me a line if you want. Cheers. Ylidene ( talk) 16:43, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ylidene, Welcome to Wikipedia! My advice: just get started on creating new content. Do you already have an article in mind?
V8rik (
talk) 21:31, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
There is a flood of copyrighted material from journal web pages being added to articles on ACS journals. Webchemist was doing this and is an employee of the ACS. I discussed this on their talk page, User talk:Webchemist. Now there are edits from User:Coffeenutter to several journals. In fixing some of these I came across copyrighted material that had been added earlier. These articles need watching and work. -- Bduke (Discussion) 22:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
We agreed on IRC that it's about time we ratified the use of our style guide. Please can everyone take a look at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(chemistry)/draft and comment, discuss and edit, so we can get this fixed up ready for use? Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 02:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC) I meant to mention, we will also discuss this on IRC at channel #wikichem on freenode on Tuesday, March 3rd at 1600h UTC (11am US ET, 1700h CET), all are welcome. Walkerma ( talk) 02:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.
All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot ( Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:05, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the appropriate place to mention, but I have taken Joel Case (associate professor of chemistry at University of Wisconsin Marathon County) to AfD, largely because of material with BLP concerns in the article history. I haven't found anything that would meet WP:PROF via Google/Google Scholar, but don't have access to chemistry publication databases, so I might be missing something. Regards, Espresso Addict ( talk) 15:23, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bduke, I've talked with you before (above on this page) so I wonder if you can provide some insight on an unusual situation I've come across. I saw a number of accounts with similar-looking names, so I went to Special:Listusers and found 8 accounts with that name:
It's transparently obvious that these are students in an American graduate school. "Chem 540" is the course number. I take courses in Chem. 504, 511, and 531, so the numbers make sense. There are 8 groups (grp1, grp2, etc.) and f08 refers to the fall 2008 semester. The instructor evidently assigned the students to split into groups of between 2 and 4 students to work on one or two Wikipedia articles between them.
The articles of interest are:
Here are the issues of concern to me:
Thanks for looking into this. (By the way, I'm curious which university this might be. It certainly isn't mine.) Crystal whacker ( talk) 22:11, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, both CW and Itub. I glanced at the start of this discussion before I went out this morning and I have been off WP all day. Having students edit WP is not prohibited and indeed it can be a useful educational approach which we should encourage. The addresses do look like groups but they may be very small groups and they could be considered as the name of the group spokesperson. I'll try to look more at them later, but welcome comment here. We need to get in contact with the instructor if we can. -- Bduke (Discussion) 08:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I know, why don't we declare all the members of these each student account meatpuppets of each other, on grounds that they all know the same things about chemistry? Then, we can treat the individuals as though they were single accounts. Oh, wait-- we're doing that already, automatically. Bummer. S B H arris 09:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
The participants in this course and their instructor might like to look at Wikipedia:School and university projects. -- Bduke (Discussion) 22:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all for your feedback. The Chem540 class is mine. It is called "Organic Principles" but as you have deduced, the material is largely classic physical organic chemistry. I am an assistant professor in the chemistry department at the University of Michigan and I initiated this project this term. The idea was for the students to work collaboratively (in groups of 3) on improving (or creating) a site in wikipedia that has relevance to our course material. I think it was quite successful, though I now realize that there are complexities to updating a WP site to which I was originally unaware. I will check out the Wikipedia site for school projects and I am happy to get feedback on how to improve this project for future classes. I will say that I encouraged the students to use original literature for references and that all the figures were made by the students themselves. Our goal was not to make it a "Chemical Review" article but to give more information, and in many cases, updated examples of usefulness. ajm_mich —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC).
All images were created by the students in chemdraw or similar programs. In some cases, they were trying to reproduce an image from a paper. What do I need to do to restore the images? Also, the site on Benson Group Increment Theory was proposed for deletion. Why? Thanks! Ajm mich ( talk) 16:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)ajm_mich
FYI -- I am about to start this project again (with some improvements) in my new course, Chem 538 "organic chemistry of macromolecules" here at the University of Michigan. I was planning on using group usernames (1 name for 2 students) like I did before. For example, "chem538grp1w09" would be one. If the students do not use this after this course, can we still do this? This term I will hand out more information on how to properly update wikipedia and create and upload images (and point them to the tutorials by Bill Wedemeyer at MSU!). I am open to more suggestions for improvements if you have any. There are 6 groups this term and I am going to let them do either a topic or person in polymer chemistry. I will post the list of topics here if you want to keep an eye on them :-) Ajm mich ( talk) 19:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Have you taken a look at Schools and Universities Projects? It might have useful information for you. I'd suggest that the first thing your students do, is to come by, say hello, and introduce their planned work. That would be better than for us to search for them. There're lots of us here, and being aware of who they are and what they're doing might allow us to help them better. -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 02:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
This project is nearing its end for this semester and some of my students have posted their new/revised sites online. The topics this term are:
Please take a look and let me know if you have any suggestions/concerns/comments. Ajm mich ( talk) 15:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Not to get sidetracked with account sharing issues: OrphanBot has already removed this image: Image:Crystal1.jpg. I suspect that the students made these images themselves in most cases. It's within a first-year graduate student's ability to draw something like that with help from software. Can anything be done to rescue the image, or will it be deleted? Crystal whacker ( talk) 15:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I think this unreferenced article is wrong in the first paragraph, claiming "The prefix thio-... denotes that there is at least one extra sulfur atom added to the... root word". I've always thought thio indicates sulfur replacing oxygen, as in thiosulfate, thioether, thioester, thiourea etc.
The specific example given, thiocyanate, doesn't make sense - it's cyanate with O replaced by S, not cyanide with S added. However, thiocyanate is sometimes called thiocyanide, I gather.
Any comments?
Ben ( talk) 23:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi everybody, I thought I'd ask our sister project for some help. The American Society for Cell Biology is hosting a workshop this Tuesday, the 16th, to give their scientists a crash course in editing Wikipedia (see User:Proteins for more details). The workshop will focus on creating biochemistry and cell biology articles with the aim of quickly improving them to GA or eventually FA quality. Proteins and I are running the workshop, but we could benefit from your help! We'd like to find friendly, online Wikipedians who will greet the newbie scientists and offer to help them with their nascent articles.
The workshop will run from 12:30-2:30pm local San Francisco time. We will be speaking until ~1pm, and the participants won't start their user pages until 12:45pm at the earliest. We'll ask them to add the template {{ ASCB workshop}} to their user page, which will add them to the Category:ASCB 2008 Wikipedia workshop participants category. Then you'll be able to see who's participating and welcome them. Other help with categorization, finding/formatting images and references, etc. would be great as well.
Any help bringing these fellow scientists into the community would be much appreciated! Tim Vickers ( talk) 14:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Somebody should look at this user's contributions. It may be well intentioned, but as far as I can tell they have put links to the Strem catalogue for about 2 dozen organometallic compounds. Don't have time to revert them all myself, but somebody might feel the need. It might be well intentioned, but it might not; I'm sure it violates some guidelines somewhere... Chris ( talk) 20:59, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a little heads up, you might be interested in having Article Alerts for the Chem project. It's an automatic article monitoring system that notifies you about stuff going on for articles, such as PR, AfD, etc... You can find a sample output here User:B. Wolterding/Article alerts#Samples. And if you're not interested, well move on as if nothing happened. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 17:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Since when was it decided that images like File:Ammonium-formate-2D.png should be replaced by crystal structures?
Ben ( talk) 12:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
I wanted to check if the issue has been discussed here before. I've followed your suggestion here.
Ben ( talk) 13:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
There are some nice examples of coordination geometry on Commons, e.g. File:NaCl polyhedra.png or File:CaF2 polyhedra.png. I've started uploading similar things (e.g. Commons:Category:Strontium iodide) but have only added them to a few articles, like copper monosulfide. I'm working on an extended image for tetraphenylphosphonium chloride.
Maybe Smokefoot is right and "gas-phase structures" of ion pairs would be better placed in the body text of the article rather than the chembox, but I still think such images are useful, particularly to casual readers who will appreciate an explanation (or reminder) of the most fundamental building blocks of a given compound. I wouldn't like to see them disappear completely.
Ben ( talk) 18:45, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
The concept of a reactivity series is taught in UK at GCSE and A Level as a "practical" guide to the relative reactivity of metals with H2 and C thrown in for comparison purposes. In the US it appears from the discussion that the term reactivity series may be used as a synonym for the electrochemical series, (redox potentials) - could a US educator clarify the position?. To avoid cross editing by well meaning students from the UK and US (which has certainly corrupted the original "correct" UK list and may not be in line with US list either), I suggest that we rename the existing article to "Reactivity series-UK" and, if necessary, create a new article "Reactivity series-US". - Axiosaurus ( talk) 14:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Chemistry. I come to ask a question regarding the article Salt analysis. In its present form, it obviously requires some serious clean-up and translation into an encyclopedic tone but, as a humble social scientist, I cannot tell whether or not the subject itself is of encyclopedic merit or is original research. I would hate to nominate it for deletion only to find that is a very noteworthy and well-known topic; I would also be loathe, however, to allow original research or unencyclopedic material to remain. Anyhow, if anyone could offer any advice/suggestions/help, I would appreciate it. Cheers, CP 03:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard it by this name, but the content at a quick glance sounds right. Don't care for the snarky last line, though. Also, WP:NOT a cookbook, so there is no need to reproduce a table. Redirected it. -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 03:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I just want to inform you that a platform to access the on-line databases was developed on the toolserver. This tool was developed by de:Magnus and is based on the CAS number and used a formated url like this one: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/cas.php?cas=74-90-8&language=en. The links on this platform allow to access directly to the component page of the databases. Other databases can be added with Template:CasTemplate. The french wiki developed a specific template fr:modèle:CAS which checks the validity of the CAS number and opens the tool on the toolserver. This template is implemented in the infobox of each chemical (see fr:Méthanol and click on the CAS number in the infobox). Biglama ( talk) 10:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC) 11:12, 9. Jan. 2009 (CET)
Hydronium has shown up at WP:RM to be renamed to Hydroxonium and subsequently redirect to the Hydron article. See Talk:Hydronium 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 22:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I've never found it harder to start a new article... Help needed! -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 02:41, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
This article has been proposed as a featured article. It is listed under the Chemistry WikiProject, so please take a look and comment here. Thank you.— RJH ( talk) 23:00, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
This issue came up during the FAC:
I've been told that the quotes statement is true, and it seems to be to the best of my understanding, but apparently this reviewer holds it as dubious. Could somebody help? Thanks.— RJH ( talk) 17:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unhexseptium. Elements 167 to 173 have been sent for deletion as pure speculation. Note that even the chemical properties cannot be predicted, since some theories say that no electrons can be added to the electron shells beyond 139. 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 00:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to amend the goals section? I suggest including more pages relating to chemistry and environmental issues. Chemistry is integral to environmental issues--many do not realize this and therefore do not understand the issues as well. Since the environment is more widely talked about presently than several years ago, it seems appropriate to be a priority in this project's scope. Freefighter ( talk) 21:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Hydrino theory is up for renaming again... 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 04:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I take requests for drawing molecules and reaction schemes. You can make a request here -- DFS454 ( talk) 13:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know the English word for Hägg-Diagramm? Hägg diagram, Speciation diagram, pH diagram, …? Or is there even already an article present covering this topic (other than Speciation of ions)? -- Leyo 19:30, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
List of chemical compounds with unusual names has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 05:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if it would be possible and useful to consider the article Glass (and all other articles in the Category Glass) within the chemistry project. Among all projects, chemistry seems to be the most appropriate to me, and I doubt that at present an independent project could be started based on the glass topic or materials science alone. The article Glass has currently only B-quality, but its importance was rated as top, which I think should stimulate to improve it significantly. Among the things to is in my opinion the following:
What do you think? Would there maybe even a collaboration of the month possible? Thank you. -- Afluegel ( talk) 12:50, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Periodic table (extended) has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 04:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I have started a discussion regarding how to categorize pharmacology at WP:PHARM:CAT. Perhaps some of you could participate in the discussion as well? kilbad ( talk) 13:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Is this a vanity piece? Or a UFO abduction fan piece? I stumbled across it while searching for 2-chloro-4,6-dimethoxy-1,3,5-triazine; I've never seen such an extensive publication list for any chemist before! Pisa is a major university, but I don't think this list is appropriate even if the guy is notable. The page got 314 hits last month. How should we proceed? Walkerma ( talk) 05:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
The PROD has been contested but I restored Dirk's edit which has also been reverted. Is it really sufficiently unsourced and not notable to go to AfD? -- Bduke (Discussion) 23:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
New article, welcome comments and edits! -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 19:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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I thought this WikiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 21:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:Proton#Why so short? for the current discussion on expanding that article. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 03:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Chemical warfare for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.
Could someone have a look at rewriting Free energy perturbation for clarity. I marked it as confusing half a year ago, and there has been no editing since. It is not accessible to the lay reader. Thanks, NJGW ( talk) 18:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Water fluoridation ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated as a featured article. If you have the time and the inclination to review it, please weigh in at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Water fluoridation. In particular, a review of its Mechanism section would be appreciated, as that contains some details about the chemistry involved. Thanks. Eubulides ( talk) 21:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
There is a suggestion to move Blackwater Worldwide to Xe and moving that page to Xe (disambiguation) 76.66.196.229 ( talk) 05:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, it was pointed out on
Talk:Cellulose that our structure
is incorrect; I have since replaced it with the correct
. However there is a concern that the space-filling images and hydrogen-bond images shown on
Cellulose
are also incorrect. Could somebody please check these? Thank you,
AxelBoldt (
talk) 19:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
The current Wikipedia article (17feb09) on the Clark electrode shows an electrode reaction of O2 + 2 e- + 2 H2O => H2O2 + 2 OH- I expected instead a reaction of O2 + 4 e- + 2 H2O => 4 OH-
Is there really a net production of H2O2? I haven't heard of that before. If not, is at least the existence of H2O2 as intermediary product proven (that is then further converted through H2O2 + 2e- => 2 OH-)? Even if H2O2 exists as intermediary, the important net equation would have 4 electrons for each O2 molecule, and should be shown that way, because the oxygen sensing relies on measuring all the electrons.
Could someone who has experience with Wikipedia editing look into my questions and, if needed, change the article?
Thanks,
Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.64.0.252 ( talk) 00:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I've attempted to improve the acyl chloride reaction, now finding it has quite a bit of overlap with the acyl halide article. Should we redirect acyl halide into acyl chloride, making acyl halide a subsection? Acyl chlorides are afterall, the most significant of the acyl halides. -- Rifleman 82 ( talk) 20:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Isn't acetyl iodide an important intermediate in the Monsanto process?
Ben ( talk) 18:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm letting you guys know about it because a lot of what is said there is also relevant for you guys. Plus your feedback would definitely be both relevant and appreciated. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 04:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
In the text it is stated that upon oxidation of L-Mannose or D-Mannose a Manneric acid which is Achiral is produced, this can not be since all the stereo centers are (S) for D-Mannose derived acid and (R) for L-Mannose derived acid.
A big hello to everyone here! I am "Ylidene" and a newbie to wikipedia. I am an organometallic chemist trying my best to promote chemistry in general, which is my passion. I hope to do so by using this platform. Being new to this, I would be grateful for any advice, help and suggestions. So feel free to drop me a line if you want. Cheers. Ylidene ( talk) 16:43, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ylidene, Welcome to Wikipedia! My advice: just get started on creating new content. Do you already have an article in mind?
V8rik (
talk) 21:31, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
There is a flood of copyrighted material from journal web pages being added to articles on ACS journals. Webchemist was doing this and is an employee of the ACS. I discussed this on their talk page, User talk:Webchemist. Now there are edits from User:Coffeenutter to several journals. In fixing some of these I came across copyrighted material that had been added earlier. These articles need watching and work. -- Bduke (Discussion) 22:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
We agreed on IRC that it's about time we ratified the use of our style guide. Please can everyone take a look at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(chemistry)/draft and comment, discuss and edit, so we can get this fixed up ready for use? Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 02:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC) I meant to mention, we will also discuss this on IRC at channel #wikichem on freenode on Tuesday, March 3rd at 1600h UTC (11am US ET, 1700h CET), all are welcome. Walkerma ( talk) 02:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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