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Welcome!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:09, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Hey, Jlvsclrk, there seem to be some holes in Canadian Horse Racing Hall of Fame. Maybe you'll find something there to suit your interests.— Anne Delong ( talk) 22:35, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Is this article Canadian enough for the list? The inventor is a Canadian, but everything else is in the UK.— Anne Delong ( talk) 19:00, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
This challenge states "The main focus is on improving existing article quality for Canada, fleshing out those stale old stubs or bloated/poorly sourced material and clean up, though all articles are welcome. Quality new content is welcome, but please try to avoid creating shorter stubs and unsourced material." There are also the goals of the challenge. I think we've had a good faith entry of an article achievement – the addition of a notable person – that doesn't appear to be significant enough to align with the focus or goals of the challenge. Am I wrong? If so, looks like we need more explicit detail of what doesn't qualify. If no, how many of my November edits to articles then qualify? Hwy43 ( talk) 06:40, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
FYI see : Talk:Elsie_MacGill#World.27s_first_woman_aircraft_designer.3F. Ottawahitech ( talk) 16:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC)please ping me
There are a lot of pages in Draft space on Canadian topics. Some of them just need a little sprucing up to make them suitable articles.— Anne Delong ( talk) 04:46, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Search Draft: space
Type "Canada" or "Canadian" into the box to see drafts about Canadian topics. [[Draft:]] |
Is there a plan for what to do when the list of "article achievements" gets too long? Will the older ones be archived by month, or in groups of 100 (or 200)? — Anne Delong ( talk) 02:34, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
The list of article achievements is now over 1000 items long. I spend too much time waiting for the edit window to load and save, and I am tired of scrolling up and down. I propose that we create a subsection for the first 1000 items, and then another subsection for those beginning at 1001. That way I can just edit the current subsection. I know that the numbering would begin again, but if the subsections are labelled it should be okay. We can always reassemble the complete list later to showcase our 10,000 items.— Anne Delong ( talk) 04:39, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
This user is participating in the WP Canada 10,000 Challenge |
Ottawahitech, I didn't find a userbox for this project. How's this one?— Anne Delong ( talk) 21:47, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Lsjbot made numerous articles pertaining to Canadian geography on the Cebuano and Swedish Wikipedias. For example, the English Wikipedia doesn't have an article for Ned Island, but there are two articles each for Ned Island for both the Swedish and the Cebuano Wikipedias: https://www.google.ca/search?q=allintitle:+%22Ned+Island%22+site:wikipedia.org&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=nhumWI25EYy4jwSrlKXABA
Lsjbot is responsible for making the Cebuano and Swedish Wikipedias the second- and third-largest in article count.
We can take those articles and expand them a little. We can even ask @ Lsj: as well, since his bot created more articles pertaining to Canada than any of us here. Johnny Au ( talk/ contributions) 21:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
I suppose the minimum to be "counted" would be to destub an article – expand from stub to start class, with enough citations to demonstrate notability so the article won't be at risk of deletion. Every article on the list should ideally go through assessment, but I have no experience in that area. (It sounds like a lot of work, but perhaps it can be coordinated with those already doing assessment?)
For prizes or rewards, why not stay with the theme and distribute {{ The Maple Leaf Award}} barnstars? They're on a geometric scale so you don't really have to worry about devaluing them (compared to the monthly drives of The Guild of Copy Editors and Articles for Creation). Reds for smaller contributions, silvers for a FA or cleanup of a category of articles, gold for substantial work over months or years. And it that's not enough, there's always the CanCon award. Unfortunately, this would require a bit of administrative work to keep track of contributions and awards given. – Reidgreg ( talk) 12:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
@ Hwy43, Llammakey, Anne Delong, Magnolia677, OhanaUnited, and Bearcat: pinging frequent contributors. I'd like to check what participants want for the challenge page. There have been concerns about the size of the page and ease of loading and updating the list. I can see others wanting a full list and came across a compromise. There is a way to transclude a subpage – essentially, to have a reasonably short list in one location which is loaded as part of a full list in another location. I can see a few ways of laying it out:
There is a mockup of Proposal 4 at
my sandbox. I'm not particularly favouring Prop 4, but it was the most-complicated – it's easy enough to simplify for the other earlier proposals. Feel free to test it, add hypothetical articles to lists, etc. I appreciate any time you can spare for this. –
Reidgreg (
talk) 21:53, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
OhanaUnited made a
mock page for Prop 5 (main page only).
Discussion/alternatives and Support or Oppose:
It seems this discussion has run its course. I've made changes to the list along the lines of Proposal 2, putting the most-recent portion of the list on a sub-page. This should make it easier to add to the list, while maintaining the appearance of the challenge page. In other words, it addresses the complaints while being least intrusive for the silent majority. (I'm still concerned about the size of this page, and the issue may have to be revisited as the list continues to grow.)
If anyone wants to save even more loading time, bookmark this URL which should have the same result as clicking on the "Submit an article" input box. Otherwise, make additions at the sub-page Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge/Recent additions. Please report any problems to me. Thanks. – Reidgreg ( talk) 14:31, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
I've advertised to the Canadian Noticeboard and the talk pages of active editors who had signed up for the challenge but hadn't submitted an article yet, and am pleased to report two new contributors and several new entries within a few hours. – Reidgreg ( talk) 15:03, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
This article was created or improved during The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada, which started in November 2016 and is ongoing. You can help! |
I've been working on a system to recognize contributors to the challenge. If you are interested in this please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge/Awards for more information and discussion. I'd like someone to check my work, and would appreciate a volunteer or two to help check recent submissions to the list. That'll probably be ready in mid-October or so. Thanks. – Reidgreg ( talk) 15:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
I've added the final articles from October to the awards list and checked them. Last chance if anyone would like to go over what I've done. Replies on the awards talk page, please. – Reidgreg ( talk) 15:53, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
I noticed that many new articles created in the drive turn out to be WP:ORPHAN. Can page creators please try to link their new pages from existing articles? OhanaUnited Talk page 02:55, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
I've sent out ads to the editors who wrote Canadian biographies for the WIR World Contest who hadn't added to this list yet. I think we got an extra hundred articles on the list from that contest, and these last people could mean another fifty. I'd like to welcome WomenArtistUpdates and Big_iron who already found their way here, and also thank MrLinkinPark333 and everyone else who took part in the contest, which was apparently the most-productive editing event there's ever been. Well done! – Reidgreg ( talk) 12:31, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I nominated Wikipedia:WikiProject North America/The North America Destubathon for deletion. Feel free to take a look at the talk page, or contribute to the ongoing discussion. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Can we implement something similar to US Challenge's state by state total and milestones? Having total by province/territory makes it easier to summarize the results at the end of the challenge. I have done some classification but I no longer have time to do it myself. It's much easier to download the task to whoever submitting the entry to do the classification themselves. OhanaUnited Talk page 05:09, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
CPU time usage: 0.196 seconds → 0.752 seconds Real time usage: 0.248 seconds → 0.833 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 169 → 23,474 Post-expand include size: 830 → 171,142 Template argument size: 11 → 37,701 Page size (wikicode): 82,459 → 92,253 Page size (html): 158,596 → 423,549
At 30,000 words and 265k of wikicode, the main Challenge page has become increasingly unwieldy, and is about triple the maximum size recommended for an article. Although most changes are now occurring on the Recent additions subpage, the main Challenge page serves as an introduction for new contributors and I feel it would better serve to streamline it, providing information and resources rather than listing every article in the Challenge's history. So I'd like to again suggest archiving the list.
Proposal: To move the main list onto sub-pages, as with Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge/Recent additions. These would be linked from the main page to be viewed in lists of 1,000 entries and another subpage which transcludes those smaller lists so they can be viewed in a single window, if the reader's browser supports it. The Recent additions page could remain transcluded onto the main page (as it presently is, so recent progress is more readily seen) or removed as well. (Depending on discussion above, the list could be with or without flags, or there could be separate flag and non-flag lists.)
Please also suggest any resources you'd like to see on the main Challenge page. – Reidgreg ( talk) 16:05, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
We're close to 2,000 achievements. If there are no objections I'll try to reorganize the list when we pass that. – Reidgreg ( talk) 16:17, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Awards have been distributed to 51 editors for the second year of the challenge. Participation was roughly the same as for the first year, though there were nearly twice as many new articles submitted (and lower numbers of expansions, cleanup, updates and reference repairs) submitted to the challenge. Full details on the awards page. If someone would like to give me an award for the challenge, I've left instructions on the awards talk page. Thanks again to all contributors! – Reidgreg ( talk) 15:24, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
When this project started I took on the task of de-stubbing the Canadian band stubs which were linked on the challenge page. I managed to get the list down from over 500 to about 50, not including a few new ones added since by Bearcat. These last few, though, I haven't been able to find enough information in online sources to promote to "start class". A lot of them predate the internet, so there are likely sources that aren't on line. I am leaving this category for now; I invite anyone who has access to old music magazines to work on these stubs.— Anne Delong ( talk) 11:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
I've been adding pictures to Quebec municipality articles. Do such edits qualify for the challenge? If so, is each article counted as a separate improvement? -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 16:48, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Participation seems to have dropped for the third year of the challenge, so I've been concentrating on advertising and promoting the challenge this month. I'll be staggering invitations to content creators over the next few days, hopefully spread out enough so there won't be edit conflicts. After that, I intend to gradually work on compiling a list and doing checks for the year's awards. – Reidgreg ( talk) 20:41, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Do articles created before I joined (and knew of this project's existense) but within the timeframe (because I've been here since 2018 so everything would be) count? Or do only articles with this challenge specifically in mind count? Clovermoss (talk) 20:53, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
@ Reidgreg: after adding List of municipalities in Prince Edward Island today due to its FL promotion, I noticed I previously added the same article in October 2018 (see entry #2240). If duplicated entries are not permitted, then let's strike #2240 in favour of #3682 since that is the one where FL status was achieved. Cheers, Hwy43 ( talk) 00:42, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
I submitted Draft:Jamieson Wellness for review a few days ago. Jamieson Wellness is obviously a very important Canadian vitamin company (the Jamieson with the anthropomorphic leaf ads). Are drafts allowed to go on the main project page or do I need to wait for it to get approved? -- Aknell4 ( talk)
FYI, the {{ WPCan10k}} talk page template has been depreciated per this TfD discussion. It may be merged as a parameter for Template:WikiProject Canada. Details to be forthcoming. – Reidgreg ( talk) 11:20, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
I have just become aware of this project. I've spent much of this year creating relevant articles. Would it interest members to see a list of relevant articles? Or should I just add tag on the talk page? CT55555( talk) 12:24, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Canada Project‑class | |||||||
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Welcome!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:09, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Hey, Jlvsclrk, there seem to be some holes in Canadian Horse Racing Hall of Fame. Maybe you'll find something there to suit your interests.— Anne Delong ( talk) 22:35, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Is this article Canadian enough for the list? The inventor is a Canadian, but everything else is in the UK.— Anne Delong ( talk) 19:00, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
This challenge states "The main focus is on improving existing article quality for Canada, fleshing out those stale old stubs or bloated/poorly sourced material and clean up, though all articles are welcome. Quality new content is welcome, but please try to avoid creating shorter stubs and unsourced material." There are also the goals of the challenge. I think we've had a good faith entry of an article achievement – the addition of a notable person – that doesn't appear to be significant enough to align with the focus or goals of the challenge. Am I wrong? If so, looks like we need more explicit detail of what doesn't qualify. If no, how many of my November edits to articles then qualify? Hwy43 ( talk) 06:40, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
FYI see : Talk:Elsie_MacGill#World.27s_first_woman_aircraft_designer.3F. Ottawahitech ( talk) 16:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC)please ping me
There are a lot of pages in Draft space on Canadian topics. Some of them just need a little sprucing up to make them suitable articles.— Anne Delong ( talk) 04:46, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Search Draft: space
Type "Canada" or "Canadian" into the box to see drafts about Canadian topics. [[Draft:]] |
Is there a plan for what to do when the list of "article achievements" gets too long? Will the older ones be archived by month, or in groups of 100 (or 200)? — Anne Delong ( talk) 02:34, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
The list of article achievements is now over 1000 items long. I spend too much time waiting for the edit window to load and save, and I am tired of scrolling up and down. I propose that we create a subsection for the first 1000 items, and then another subsection for those beginning at 1001. That way I can just edit the current subsection. I know that the numbering would begin again, but if the subsections are labelled it should be okay. We can always reassemble the complete list later to showcase our 10,000 items.— Anne Delong ( talk) 04:39, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
This user is participating in the WP Canada 10,000 Challenge |
Ottawahitech, I didn't find a userbox for this project. How's this one?— Anne Delong ( talk) 21:47, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Lsjbot made numerous articles pertaining to Canadian geography on the Cebuano and Swedish Wikipedias. For example, the English Wikipedia doesn't have an article for Ned Island, but there are two articles each for Ned Island for both the Swedish and the Cebuano Wikipedias: https://www.google.ca/search?q=allintitle:+%22Ned+Island%22+site:wikipedia.org&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=nhumWI25EYy4jwSrlKXABA
Lsjbot is responsible for making the Cebuano and Swedish Wikipedias the second- and third-largest in article count.
We can take those articles and expand them a little. We can even ask @ Lsj: as well, since his bot created more articles pertaining to Canada than any of us here. Johnny Au ( talk/ contributions) 21:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
I suppose the minimum to be "counted" would be to destub an article – expand from stub to start class, with enough citations to demonstrate notability so the article won't be at risk of deletion. Every article on the list should ideally go through assessment, but I have no experience in that area. (It sounds like a lot of work, but perhaps it can be coordinated with those already doing assessment?)
For prizes or rewards, why not stay with the theme and distribute {{ The Maple Leaf Award}} barnstars? They're on a geometric scale so you don't really have to worry about devaluing them (compared to the monthly drives of The Guild of Copy Editors and Articles for Creation). Reds for smaller contributions, silvers for a FA or cleanup of a category of articles, gold for substantial work over months or years. And it that's not enough, there's always the CanCon award. Unfortunately, this would require a bit of administrative work to keep track of contributions and awards given. – Reidgreg ( talk) 12:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
@ Hwy43, Llammakey, Anne Delong, Magnolia677, OhanaUnited, and Bearcat: pinging frequent contributors. I'd like to check what participants want for the challenge page. There have been concerns about the size of the page and ease of loading and updating the list. I can see others wanting a full list and came across a compromise. There is a way to transclude a subpage – essentially, to have a reasonably short list in one location which is loaded as part of a full list in another location. I can see a few ways of laying it out:
There is a mockup of Proposal 4 at
my sandbox. I'm not particularly favouring Prop 4, but it was the most-complicated – it's easy enough to simplify for the other earlier proposals. Feel free to test it, add hypothetical articles to lists, etc. I appreciate any time you can spare for this. –
Reidgreg (
talk) 21:53, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
OhanaUnited made a
mock page for Prop 5 (main page only).
Discussion/alternatives and Support or Oppose:
It seems this discussion has run its course. I've made changes to the list along the lines of Proposal 2, putting the most-recent portion of the list on a sub-page. This should make it easier to add to the list, while maintaining the appearance of the challenge page. In other words, it addresses the complaints while being least intrusive for the silent majority. (I'm still concerned about the size of this page, and the issue may have to be revisited as the list continues to grow.)
If anyone wants to save even more loading time, bookmark this URL which should have the same result as clicking on the "Submit an article" input box. Otherwise, make additions at the sub-page Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge/Recent additions. Please report any problems to me. Thanks. – Reidgreg ( talk) 14:31, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
I've advertised to the Canadian Noticeboard and the talk pages of active editors who had signed up for the challenge but hadn't submitted an article yet, and am pleased to report two new contributors and several new entries within a few hours. – Reidgreg ( talk) 15:03, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
This article was created or improved during The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada, which started in November 2016 and is ongoing. You can help! |
I've been working on a system to recognize contributors to the challenge. If you are interested in this please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge/Awards for more information and discussion. I'd like someone to check my work, and would appreciate a volunteer or two to help check recent submissions to the list. That'll probably be ready in mid-October or so. Thanks. – Reidgreg ( talk) 15:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
I've added the final articles from October to the awards list and checked them. Last chance if anyone would like to go over what I've done. Replies on the awards talk page, please. – Reidgreg ( talk) 15:53, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
I noticed that many new articles created in the drive turn out to be WP:ORPHAN. Can page creators please try to link their new pages from existing articles? OhanaUnited Talk page 02:55, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
I've sent out ads to the editors who wrote Canadian biographies for the WIR World Contest who hadn't added to this list yet. I think we got an extra hundred articles on the list from that contest, and these last people could mean another fifty. I'd like to welcome WomenArtistUpdates and Big_iron who already found their way here, and also thank MrLinkinPark333 and everyone else who took part in the contest, which was apparently the most-productive editing event there's ever been. Well done! – Reidgreg ( talk) 12:31, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I nominated Wikipedia:WikiProject North America/The North America Destubathon for deletion. Feel free to take a look at the talk page, or contribute to the ongoing discussion. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Can we implement something similar to US Challenge's state by state total and milestones? Having total by province/territory makes it easier to summarize the results at the end of the challenge. I have done some classification but I no longer have time to do it myself. It's much easier to download the task to whoever submitting the entry to do the classification themselves. OhanaUnited Talk page 05:09, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
CPU time usage: 0.196 seconds → 0.752 seconds Real time usage: 0.248 seconds → 0.833 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 169 → 23,474 Post-expand include size: 830 → 171,142 Template argument size: 11 → 37,701 Page size (wikicode): 82,459 → 92,253 Page size (html): 158,596 → 423,549
At 30,000 words and 265k of wikicode, the main Challenge page has become increasingly unwieldy, and is about triple the maximum size recommended for an article. Although most changes are now occurring on the Recent additions subpage, the main Challenge page serves as an introduction for new contributors and I feel it would better serve to streamline it, providing information and resources rather than listing every article in the Challenge's history. So I'd like to again suggest archiving the list.
Proposal: To move the main list onto sub-pages, as with Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge/Recent additions. These would be linked from the main page to be viewed in lists of 1,000 entries and another subpage which transcludes those smaller lists so they can be viewed in a single window, if the reader's browser supports it. The Recent additions page could remain transcluded onto the main page (as it presently is, so recent progress is more readily seen) or removed as well. (Depending on discussion above, the list could be with or without flags, or there could be separate flag and non-flag lists.)
Please also suggest any resources you'd like to see on the main Challenge page. – Reidgreg ( talk) 16:05, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
We're close to 2,000 achievements. If there are no objections I'll try to reorganize the list when we pass that. – Reidgreg ( talk) 16:17, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Awards have been distributed to 51 editors for the second year of the challenge. Participation was roughly the same as for the first year, though there were nearly twice as many new articles submitted (and lower numbers of expansions, cleanup, updates and reference repairs) submitted to the challenge. Full details on the awards page. If someone would like to give me an award for the challenge, I've left instructions on the awards talk page. Thanks again to all contributors! – Reidgreg ( talk) 15:24, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
When this project started I took on the task of de-stubbing the Canadian band stubs which were linked on the challenge page. I managed to get the list down from over 500 to about 50, not including a few new ones added since by Bearcat. These last few, though, I haven't been able to find enough information in online sources to promote to "start class". A lot of them predate the internet, so there are likely sources that aren't on line. I am leaving this category for now; I invite anyone who has access to old music magazines to work on these stubs.— Anne Delong ( talk) 11:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
I've been adding pictures to Quebec municipality articles. Do such edits qualify for the challenge? If so, is each article counted as a separate improvement? -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 16:48, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Participation seems to have dropped for the third year of the challenge, so I've been concentrating on advertising and promoting the challenge this month. I'll be staggering invitations to content creators over the next few days, hopefully spread out enough so there won't be edit conflicts. After that, I intend to gradually work on compiling a list and doing checks for the year's awards. – Reidgreg ( talk) 20:41, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Do articles created before I joined (and knew of this project's existense) but within the timeframe (because I've been here since 2018 so everything would be) count? Or do only articles with this challenge specifically in mind count? Clovermoss (talk) 20:53, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
@ Reidgreg: after adding List of municipalities in Prince Edward Island today due to its FL promotion, I noticed I previously added the same article in October 2018 (see entry #2240). If duplicated entries are not permitted, then let's strike #2240 in favour of #3682 since that is the one where FL status was achieved. Cheers, Hwy43 ( talk) 00:42, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
I submitted Draft:Jamieson Wellness for review a few days ago. Jamieson Wellness is obviously a very important Canadian vitamin company (the Jamieson with the anthropomorphic leaf ads). Are drafts allowed to go on the main project page or do I need to wait for it to get approved? -- Aknell4 ( talk)
FYI, the {{ WPCan10k}} talk page template has been depreciated per this TfD discussion. It may be merged as a parameter for Template:WikiProject Canada. Details to be forthcoming. – Reidgreg ( talk) 11:20, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
I have just become aware of this project. I've spent much of this year creating relevant articles. Would it interest members to see a list of relevant articles? Or should I just add tag on the talk page? CT55555( talk) 12:24, 5 December 2022 (UTC)