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Hello, I was wondering if it would be better to change the column "Date" to "Duration of reign" in the WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO list of world champions' pages, to match the List of IBO world champions page. I find by having only the date of assumption of title (in the WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO examples), instead of the entire reign? gives the mistaken appearance that many of the WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO champions' reigned for only 'one' day. GoodDay ( talk) GoodDay ( talk) 17:06, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
It's going to take a few days to bring'em all in line with the IBO champions page. Indeed the WBA champions page is a nightmare of sorts, due to its history & adoption of having concurrent (i.e Super/Regular) champions in each division. GoodDay ( talk) 16:45, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
It appears that @ Blizzythesnowman: opposes my implementation, concerning the 'reign' dates. GoodDay ( talk) 19:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Squared.Circle.Boxing: & @ Mac Dreamstate:, gonna need your advice here. Shall I continue making the proposed changes or throw in the towel. GoodDay ( talk) 19:54, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO & Ring Magazine champions lists, are completed. GoodDay ( talk) 04:06, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
It wasn't mentioned in the above RFC but I think it's safe to say the exclusion of upcoming fights extends to exhibition records, per the same rationale; they're not guaranteed to happen and the record table is a record of what has happened, not what might. Pinging @ GhaziTwaissi: as we've had a revert or two on the matter. – 2. O. Boxing 12:21, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Not everyone who reads an article about a boxer knows all the abbreviations. For example, in the article on Dmitry Bivol, there is a box column with his fights. A lot of them have "UD" in a column called "type"(a general word that is used with some sort of specific meaning). The article nowhere explains what "UD" means. It should be explained in some way, e.g., in a footnote or maybe a mouse-over. Kdammers ( talk) 18:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
To save space in small spaces, acronyms do not need to be written out in full...
When not written out in full on the first use on a page, an acronym should be linked. For usage of the tooltip it says,
Upon later re-use in a long article, the template {{abbr}} can be used to provide a mouse-over tooltip. 2. O. Boxing 20:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
I thought this was a done deal back in this 2022 RFC but obviously not. A handful of editors did another rfc with no sports projects input at all. And it's being challenged because we just noticed it. This could affect almost every single tennis and Olympic article we have, and goodness know how many other sports. Some may have already been moved it you weren't watching the article. And not just the article titles will be affected but all the player bios that link to the articles. Sure the links would be piped to the right place if thousands of articles moved, but if the wording in a bio still said 2023 Wimbledon Championships – Men's singles or Swimming at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Men's 200 metre backstroke that would likely need to be changed by hand. There is also talk of removing the ndash completely.
Perhaps this is what sports projects want and perhaps not. Either way I certainly don't want projects ill-informed as the last RfC was handled. Express your thoughts at the following rfc. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 20:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
I understand this change was caused by the adding of fights with no official announcements, however it is misleading and has lead to actual fight articles being poor in quality. For example, Spence vs Crawford was one of the most anticipated fights of this generation and the quality of the article was appalling. In some instances, some important fight articles, like Fulton vs Inoue, haven’t been made due to fight articles typically being accessed and created through the record table. Moreso, it is misleading because it leads people reading Wikipedia to believe that said fighter has no upcoming fight. BoxRec displays this well and it is one of the main authorities of boxing record-keeping. Therefore, I request a discussion to add back upcoming fights to record tables. As per, choices are to Support or Oppose. Cheers. Faren29 ( talk) 16:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Technical decision, which is unsourced, came up as an example in a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability. I don't know anything about boxing, but if someone here knows where to find sources, I'm sure it would be appreciated. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:59, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
There appears to be a major mix up over when Bob Foster was born. Was it 1937, 1938 or 1942. GoodDay ( talk) 06:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, I was wondering if it would be better to change the column "Date" to "Duration of reign" in the WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO list of world champions' pages, to match the List of IBO world champions page. I find by having only the date of assumption of title (in the WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO examples), instead of the entire reign? gives the mistaken appearance that many of the WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO champions' reigned for only 'one' day. GoodDay ( talk) GoodDay ( talk) 17:06, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
It's going to take a few days to bring'em all in line with the IBO champions page. Indeed the WBA champions page is a nightmare of sorts, due to its history & adoption of having concurrent (i.e Super/Regular) champions in each division. GoodDay ( talk) 16:45, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
It appears that @ Blizzythesnowman: opposes my implementation, concerning the 'reign' dates. GoodDay ( talk) 19:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Squared.Circle.Boxing: & @ Mac Dreamstate:, gonna need your advice here. Shall I continue making the proposed changes or throw in the towel. GoodDay ( talk) 19:54, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO & Ring Magazine champions lists, are completed. GoodDay ( talk) 04:06, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
It wasn't mentioned in the above RFC but I think it's safe to say the exclusion of upcoming fights extends to exhibition records, per the same rationale; they're not guaranteed to happen and the record table is a record of what has happened, not what might. Pinging @ GhaziTwaissi: as we've had a revert or two on the matter. – 2. O. Boxing 12:21, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Not everyone who reads an article about a boxer knows all the abbreviations. For example, in the article on Dmitry Bivol, there is a box column with his fights. A lot of them have "UD" in a column called "type"(a general word that is used with some sort of specific meaning). The article nowhere explains what "UD" means. It should be explained in some way, e.g., in a footnote or maybe a mouse-over. Kdammers ( talk) 18:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
To save space in small spaces, acronyms do not need to be written out in full...
When not written out in full on the first use on a page, an acronym should be linked. For usage of the tooltip it says,
Upon later re-use in a long article, the template {{abbr}} can be used to provide a mouse-over tooltip. 2. O. Boxing 20:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
I thought this was a done deal back in this 2022 RFC but obviously not. A handful of editors did another rfc with no sports projects input at all. And it's being challenged because we just noticed it. This could affect almost every single tennis and Olympic article we have, and goodness know how many other sports. Some may have already been moved it you weren't watching the article. And not just the article titles will be affected but all the player bios that link to the articles. Sure the links would be piped to the right place if thousands of articles moved, but if the wording in a bio still said 2023 Wimbledon Championships – Men's singles or Swimming at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Men's 200 metre backstroke that would likely need to be changed by hand. There is also talk of removing the ndash completely.
Perhaps this is what sports projects want and perhaps not. Either way I certainly don't want projects ill-informed as the last RfC was handled. Express your thoughts at the following rfc. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 20:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
I understand this change was caused by the adding of fights with no official announcements, however it is misleading and has lead to actual fight articles being poor in quality. For example, Spence vs Crawford was one of the most anticipated fights of this generation and the quality of the article was appalling. In some instances, some important fight articles, like Fulton vs Inoue, haven’t been made due to fight articles typically being accessed and created through the record table. Moreso, it is misleading because it leads people reading Wikipedia to believe that said fighter has no upcoming fight. BoxRec displays this well and it is one of the main authorities of boxing record-keeping. Therefore, I request a discussion to add back upcoming fights to record tables. As per, choices are to Support or Oppose. Cheers. Faren29 ( talk) 16:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Technical decision, which is unsourced, came up as an example in a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability. I don't know anything about boxing, but if someone here knows where to find sources, I'm sure it would be appreciated. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:59, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
There appears to be a major mix up over when Bob Foster was born. Was it 1937, 1938 or 1942. GoodDay ( talk) 06:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)