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Righto, keeping the production line going (seems to have slowed a little...). I have been working on orange-bellied parrot and letter-winged kite (both sporadically), and have a hankering to do red-tailed tropicbird or masked booby as I have just seen a bunch of them in Norfolk Island up close. I noticed red-headed woodpecker was in a bit of a sorry state and started tinkering today. I can see RileyBugz wants to work on yellow-bellied sapsucker and tree swallow at some point. Our collaboration page has parrot, Toco toucan and Corvus, plus Sabine's Sunbird were/are working on Steller's sea eagle...but just run out of a bit of puff on that one as the whole superlative thing is a bit of a quagmire and the sources and text don't exactly match...sigh...I can see Aa77zz has been working on the Crowned pigeons too...so anyway, just seeing if anyone has any enthusiasm for one of these or something else. Seeing where we're up to. One way of keeping up momentum is buffing something that is already GA or a collaboration. I am open to suggestions, or I'll just tinker if no-one is up for a collaboration. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 09:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Category:Birds of the Miombo is currently being discussed at this CFD. Members of this project are invited to join the discussion. DexDor (talk) 17:55, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
This image - File:PSF-W1040011.png - includes line art of a bird. It was made to be used in an encyclopedia, so we can assume it's very representative. And, based on the way the PSF images are laid out, I'm pretty sure it's a species whose name begins with "wood". Can anyone supply more details? DS ( talk) 18:41, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Spectacled flowerpecker - opinions? Shyamal ( talk) 05:46, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
An article of interest to this project— Communal roosting—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Mathglot ( talk) 06:19, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Am buffing this article for FAC...but don't have access to HBW online. I have at hand all the HANZAB material but that gives the pantropical species a somewhat australian focus. Anyone want to add and collaborate for FAC? Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 13:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
In the pheasant pigeon article the following situation occurs: The IUCN recognizes 4 species instead of 1 species with 4 subspecies, and has adapted the IUCN states to that by removing the overal status from the website and only publishing the states from the separate (sub)species. I think it would be best to remove the status from the article as well and only put the subspecies states on the page because we can't assume that the IUCN would still grant the species this status these days. However, as someone has put the status back, I would like to hear what other people think about it. Jarne Colman ( talk) 22:28, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I would like to ask why the Dodo is not included in the List of Columbidae species? Thank you in advance. TaurenMoonlighting ( talk) 17:15, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello, there's a proposal to delete all Wikipedia portals. Please see the discussion here. -- NaBUru38 ( talk) 13:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
The discussion has been moved here. N. Jain (talk to me) 20:31, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links#Should set index links be disambiguated? for an open discussion, which includes my opinion. If anyone can identify the correct binomial name, that would be one of those little problems solved. Thanks in advance, Narky Blert ( talk) 23:05, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comment: categorizing by year of formal description for a discussion on possible guidelines for categorizing by year of formal description of a species. Peter coxhead ( talk) 10:56, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi all, I've proposed deleting Ibera seedeater because of a lack of sources for the topic. Only 1 primary source exists, and no secondary sources exist, so it's not really possible to provide a NPOV. Also, at this time I don't know if there's enough consensus in the scientific community regarding the status of this taxon as a distinct species. Feel free to comment here or on the article's talk page. N. Jain (talk to me) 00:37, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
I need help from an admin to move an article. I want to delete the current Yellow grosbeak article (which is a redirect) and move Mexican yellow grosbeak to Yellow grosbeak.
Background
The moves are a result of the changes to the English names by the IOC. Previously there were two articles on "yellow grosbeaks":
Many thanks - Aa77zz ( talk) 21:46, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
I would like help from an admin to move Snowfinch to Montifringilla (currently a redirect). For reasons I don't understand, I'm unable to move this myself.
Background
Previously the 8 snowfinches were all placed in the genus Montifringilla. According to the IOC, HBW alive and H&M4 pp.307-308 (but not Clements) they are now split into three genera: Montifringilla (3 species), Onychostruthus (monotypic white-rumped snowfinch) and Pyrgilauda (4 species). The most recent molecular phylogenetic study ( Qu et al 2006) supports this split. Following the move I'll edit the Snowfinch redirect page and list the three genera.
Many thanks - Aa77zz ( talk) 09:25, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata now has a property, eBird hotspot ID (P5200), for the IDs for nature reserves and other places ("hotposts") on eBird. I have made {{ EBird hotspot}} to make it easy to add links to relevant pages, using that ID; see, for example, Armash Important Bird Area#External links. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
This is John(Y-B-F-L)Bates John(Y-B-F-L) ( talk) 13:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC) Hello I made original deductions from information published on Journal/Website All about birds, if that's not a peer reviewed journal then nothing is. Also you kept my original information but removed my cite. That is plagiarism. Most universities ask you to swear not to do that. John(Y-B-F-L) ( talk) 13:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you. — The Transhumanist 07:27, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Another study see doi: 10.1016/j.ympev.2018.03.029 - which suggests among others that Chaetornis striata will probably move to the genus Schoenicola - Shyamal ( talk) 04:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
I started a discussion here about possibly renaming hawking (birds) and gleaning (birds) to reflect that these are strategies also used by insectivorous bats. Weigh in if you have suggestions. Enwebb ( talk) 01:54, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
People here might be interested in the Wikipedia:GLAM/New Zealand Wikipedian at Large. User:Giantflightlessbirds is encouraging improvements to articles about New Zealand's endangered species. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 16:41, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on changing the title of the article on the Grey jay. If members of this project are interested in providing input, please see the discussion. Thanks. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 16:17, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Several categories such as Category:Wintering birds of East Africa are being discussed at CFD. Members of this project are invited to join the discussion. DexDor (talk) 16:13, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Does anybody happen to have a subscription to the Birds of North America? If so, I would like the appearance section for the tree swallow, so I can add the colours of its beak and tarsus before taking it to FAC. Thanks! RileyBugz 私に叫ぼう 私の編集 15:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
FYI, the latest update (June 27, 2018) is out from the IOC. Plenty of new changes, Ive already split the white-collared seedeater, and will do others as time allows. Nothing yet on Canada Jay, but the draft template has been placed, so I expect something soon. and given the AOS as already made the Jay change official, I would feel very comfortable changing it as soon as the draft is out.... Pvmoutside ( talk) 15:36, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
The titles and content for the " scrubbirds", the target of Atrichornithidae and Atrichornis, including the species under their common names, noisy scrubbird and rufous scrubbird, currently follow the IOC's "Scrubbirds". I don't know if this is found in the IOU's original publication, or if that is what the IOC World Bird List follows, but they give many references to their mission: hyphen-omission, eg. hyphens, On Hyphens and Phylogeny et al. There is, however, an exception
I can find no other source that omits a hyphen or space in the name, giving instead "Scrub-bird" or "Scrub bird", and this bibliography also suggests the general preference is to hyphenate. cygnis insignis 16:27, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
The tree swallow and northern gannet are at FAC (although the latter seems to be almost done). Also, I think it would be nice to do a collab to get the swallow article up to a featured article. Thoughts on that? RileyBugz 私に叫ぼう 私の編集 20:15, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
The ioc has split the superb bird-of-paradise, and are calling each of the species Greater Lophorina, Crescent-caped Lophorina, and Lesser Lophorina. Prevailing literature are calling them Greater superb bird-of-paradise, Vogelkop superb bird-of-paradise, and Lesser superb bird-of-paradise, respectively. The Project uses the IOC for English names, but Im not sure what to do in this case. Ill go with consensus..... Pvmoutside ( talk) 20:25, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
There is an RfC regarding recommending usage of automatic taxoboxes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comments: Should the automatic taxobox system be the current recommended practice?. Inviting anybody who watches this page to contribute their thoughts to that thread.
WikiProject Birds is currently using automatic taxoboxes in 68.2% of project tagged articles that have any form of taxobox. Plantdrew ( talk) 01:35, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I notice there are two pages attempting to link articles via the name "bronzewing": one is minimal form of SIA, Bronzewing, another contains discussion of a 'group', " Bronzewing pigeon". The solution is probably something in between, but that requires some work with page history, merging, and correcting text on the incoming links. The second page was created in 2003, and has since been chopped, patched, and tagged for the single reference given to support the page's quirky concept of a group.
I note all this here in case further discussion is needed, and for the interest of project members working on the arrangement of bird articles. And also to ask, Is there a way to tag dabs and similar bird pages for improvement in the future? And while I'm here, quibbling about this and that, I'll add that this project's articles have been very useful to me over the years and the efforts of all here deserves praise :) cygnis insignis 08:49, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
I have a problem with the bird vocalization article. The two choices a blackbird and the australian raven are weak choices. One has been over dubbed to isolate and the sound quality suffers as a result. The other is too quick leaving no real appreciation for the animal's call. There are no really good examples of mimicry which happens to be a trait in birds not found in too many other animals in the natural world. Shouldn't that be better represented? Finally and most importantly the Eastern Pewee is a perfect accessible bird song. The length of the recording is good and the animal has a song phrase that is easily accessible to any listener encountering bird song for the first time (an ascending and descending set of phrases grounded by the opening note). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davros69999 ( talk • contribs) 14:25, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Hello! Does anybody have a subscription to Birds of North America? The killdeer description section is a tidge messy, and I'd like to confirm everything in there, and so the appearance section that BNA has should be good enough to do that. Thanks! RileyBugz 私に叫ぼう 私の編集 20:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
First-time talker here - very sorry if I am in the wrong project for this request? The Fifty-ninth Supplement to the American Ornithological Society's Check-list of North American Birds notes that Arizona Woodpecker (formerly L. arizonae) should now be assigned to the genus Dryobates. I suspect there are many such scientific and common name changes needed to the wiki articles whenever a new July issue of the Auk comes out. Is there a central repository of such change requests I need to visit before suggesting an edit? [1] CarlHaynie ( talk) 21:22, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
References
It is now possible to generate automatically updated lists of articles that are on other language Wikipedias but missing on English using Wikidata - an example can be found here where biographies included in other language Wikipedias (or Wikispecies where all taxon authors are included). Shyamal ( talk) 03:53, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I've just noticed that back in January there was a weird something that happened to Jacana. The page was probably moved with cut and paste and then an admin deleted and placed a dab page in its place. This means that a decade of edits have been lost and someone has thrown up a stub at Jacanidae. Fellow bird admins - thoughts on the best way to untangle this mess technically? More generally, maybe run a rfc about whether jacana the bird is the primary subject? Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:23, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Peacock tail. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. HighFlyingFish ( talk) 01:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
In this [5] DNA paper. Should we follow and merge? FunkMonk ( talk) 02:06, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
In ~1830, Gabriele de Sanctis produced an ornamental alphabet where each letter was illustrated with a lavishly detailed bird. Names were provided... but the labels are in extremely ornate calligraphy, and the spelling is a little arbitrary (and in Italian).
And just to make things harder, he didn't stick as closely to the notion of 'a letter is represented by a bird whose name begins with that letter' as he should have - for instance, 'X' is the Airone Bianco.
I found reasonably-high-quality scans of three pages of three letters each and uploaded them to Commons - file:Avian Alphabet by Gabriele de Sanctis - ABC.jpg, file:Avian Alphabet by Gabriele de Sanctis - NOP.jpg, and file:Avian Alphabet by Gabriele de Sanctis - XYZ.jpg - with conclusive ID's of 6 of the birds, a pretty close guess for a 7th, and no idea for the the other two. The images look (to my inexpert eye) pretty well done; can anyone have a go at identifying them? DS ( talk) 15:18, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Ornithology includes a link to point count, which is a redirect to a DAB page. All the entries on the DAB page are hopelessly irrelevant. IMO a good solution might be a brief inline explanation of the term in the article. Does anyone feel up to the task? Narky Blert ( talk) 11:15, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I am not able to add my name to the list. How is it done? Qwerty number1 ( talk) 07:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Qwerty number1 ( talk) 15:37, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
How can the Sydney Bin Chicken, a national cultural icon and connoisseur of bin juice, be ranked as "Low Importance"? I would encourage ornithologists to please update themselves with this 'Planet Earth' episode. Bin Chicken SC would not be at all impressed and I fear that you may end up with a legal fight on your hands, if his eminent status is not duly noted. 14.200.91.233 ( talk) 01:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
I need help in identifying the two birds of prey in flight above. I took the pictures in the Volerie des aigles. -- AmBu ( talk) 00:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
See Talk:Tasmanian nativehen. Maias ( talk) 00:10, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi there. I've almost completely rewritten the article on this bird. The original text was almost all cited to the 'Birds of North America' website (info from the 1992 book), which is inaccessible behind a paywall for me. Much of this original text appeared logically wrong to me, and as I have researched further I have noted much disputable information. Up till now I've attributed that to the authors of the original 'Birds of North America' (BNA) reference, but I am suspecting that the text was mostly made up by the editor who added it in 2017 and unjustly referenced to BNA at the time. I don't want to put stuff in the mouth of the authors of BNA when they didn't state it.
Could someone with access to this site confirm my suspicions? Here are discrepancies I've noted:
Thank you. Leo 86.83.56.115 ( talk) 23:08, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
I reading about the responses to an imitated whistle and to an Audubon bird caller, the author (in HANZAB) thought to specify the type (trademarked I think), and I thought a link would be helpful. There is another term related to this, when people suck their teeth to provoke a response, and I wonder if this sort of interaction is already mentioned somewhere. I didn't see anything in bird vocalisation, if that is place for discussion. cygnis insignis 12:07, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on capitalization of the names of standardized breeds.
This is a neutral RfC on a question left unanswered by MOS:LIFE (on purpose in 2012–2014, pending "later discussion"). It is now later, and lack of resolution of the question has held up MOS:ORGANISMS in draft proposal state for 6 years. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:03, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that today's featured photo (File:Pied-winged swallow (Hirundo leucosoma).jpg) is the lovely Pied-winged swallow which is in this project's purview. I saw that there was almost no info on the page and so went about sprucing it up a bit. But I couldn't find any good references except for this HBW page. However I don't have an HBW subscription and was wondering if a project member did and would be willing to help/collaborate with me on giving this bird the coverage it deserves! Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 09:55, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
The article Osprey, Pandion haliaetus, formerly included a subspecies Pandion haliaetus cristatus, that the IOC (apparently, haven't checked) have recognised as a species Pandion cristatus and that a user has created under eastern osprey. Evidently, this was a copy paste from the P. haliaetus, and when I noted that proper attribution I thanked the user for an uncharacteristic job well done in that regard.
However, that is all they did! much of the content is about the cosmopolitan species and is little more than a great kludge of precise bullshit—fully referenced from unrelated sources— that was carelessly dumped into this article. There has been some activity since, or I would be inclined to restore the redirect, as it is I propose to blank the fabricated content and replace it with some properly sourced information. Secondly, I propose that the activities of this editor be censored, and I ask that members of this project seek to endorse that and stop actual damage being done to articles within its scope in the most time effective and drama free way possible. If someone here knows the user, or has communicated successfully with them, now is the time to tell to stop screwing up content and see about fixing the mess. @ Pvmoutside:, pinging that account, although fairly warned this was coming. cygnis insignis 17:18, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
At Talk:Southern boobook there is a daily page view chart, but it doesn't seem to render right when I look at it. I have fiddled with my machine on this end and I am fairly certain its not my computer, could someone here look into it? TomStar81 ( Talk) 08:10, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Our page List of birds of the world is presently 560,973 bytes long, making it difficult to edit. According to Special:LongPages it's the 22nd longest article in Wikipedia. I think it needs to be subdivided, but I'm a copy editor not a taxonomist and I don't know how. There's been some discussion at Talk:List of birds of the world#Size, but I haven't been able to take it forward. If anyone could offer suggestions there or here, I'd be thankful. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 06:18, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
The bird featured for Alcippe brunneicauda is an incorrect identification. The e-mail for the user is no longer valid. Anyone interested in correcting it ....the bird linked is actually an adult Malacocincla abbotti williamsoni (Abbott's Babbler). Steve Pryor ( talk) 14:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Pitta is at GAN. Figured I'd try and get it to FAC while I was on a christmas break. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:28, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Aa77zz has raised an excellent point about the family authority for the Pitta's on that page's talk page, namely that there is some question as to whether the generally accepted authority is correct. What to do about it is unclear, however, without treading too deeply into OR, so given that the article in question is at FAC if you have time to have a look and chip in with suggestions that would be great. Sabine's Sunbird talk 06:06, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi experts, I'd like your assistance in identifying this bird in the Palo Alto Baylands: File:Unknown bird Palo Alto May 2011.jpg. I don't even know the broad category; is it a juvenile gull, or something else entirely? Most of the birds I photographed that day were California gulls, but comparing photos it doesn't match any gull I can find. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:47, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comment: new classification scheme for eukaryotes, which asks for comments on how we should deal with a proposed new classification system that has widespread ramifications across the tree of life. Peter coxhead ( talk) 09:47, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello birdy project! Can some kind person please have a look at Talk:Guillemot where Naamloze gebruiker is asking about the interwiki links? If you go there you'll see the whole story but what I think it boils down to is the slight naming mess around guillemots and murres. Being horribly ignorant in this whole area I am not even dipping a toe in the water in case I damage something but someone with more knowledge might be able to better advise. Thanks and best wishes to all DBaK ( talk) 08:28, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
I normally write FAs about birds or nature reserves, but I live fairly close to Willughby's ancestral home, and I was given The Wonderful Mr Willughby: The First True Ornithologist for Christmas, so I thought I'd have a shot at a biography. Shyamal has been extremely helpful in getting me access to a number of my sources, so to some extent it's been a matter of what to leave out, given that I'm condensing hundreds of pages of material.
I won't submit to FAC until the beginning of March, since I've a trip to Seville and Cadiz planned later this month, so I'd welcome any comments on this biography in the interim. Thanks also to Aa77zz for steering me towards a more rational referencing style than I had originally used Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:33, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Just bringing a mention of a discussion about the taxobox systematics used by basal "birds" outside crown group Aves, which may have implications on the taxobox display of pages that fall within this project. Feel free to leave comments, questions, concerns. Follow the link here. IJReid {{ T - C - D - R}} 00:25, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Input sought At Wikipedia talk:Automated taxobox system/Archive 1#Fixing inconsistent ranks in taxonomy templates I've suggested some alternative ways of fixing inconsistent ranks in taxonomy templates. They could make it easier to deal with the problem of inconsistent classification systems, e.g. the ones used for birds and dinosaurs, or the ones used for mammals and dinosaurs. Be warned that it's a long post, but it very much needs input, particularly from "old hands" at using the automated taxobox system. Peter coxhead ( talk) 15:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Discussions elsewhere led to ErikHaugen changing Template:Taxonomy/Avialae so that it no longer skips the "dinosaur" clades and ranks.
This caused some taxonomy templates and taxoboxes to have inconsistent ranks. I've fixed these: quite a few of the taxonomy templates were unused, so I removed them; for those that were used, I replaced the offending rank by "clade".
The change to Template:Taxonomy/Avialae does mean that articles about extinct birds, such as Gansus, will now show the "dinosaur taxonomy" rather than the classical "bird taxonomy". Peter coxhead ( talk) 09:00, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
See Talk:Strisores#Confused taxonomy. It would be good if someone knowledgeable could sort this. Peter coxhead ( talk) 13:32, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Both Peters and H&M4 Vol 2 p.557 give the type species of the genus Troglodytes as the house wren (Troglodytes aedon). The genus was erected by Vieillot in 1809 but the type was subsequently designated by Baird in Reports of explorations and surveys, to ascertain the most practicable and economical route for a railroad from the Mississippi River to the Pacific Ocean here.
I expected the type species to be the Eurasian wren (Troglodytes troglodytes). The wiki article on tautonyms states "For animals, a tautonym implicitly indicates that the species is the type of its genus". The article cites ICZN. Chapter 15 Art. 68a. There isn't a 68a but 68.4 reads:
"68.4. Type species by absolute tautonymy. If a valid species-group name, or its cited synonym, originally included [Art. 67.2] in a nominal genus-group taxon is identical with the name of that taxon, the nominal species denoted by that specific name (if available) is the type species (type species by absolute tautonymy)."
This appears to support the tautonym article. What am I missing here? Why isn't the Eurasian wren the type? - Aa77zz ( talk) 16:37, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Howdy hello folks! I am currently majorly expanding Cactus wren in my sandbox (I've already increased its prose size threefold). While I've certainly found some great sources, there are two great sources that are behind paywalls! I am cordially asking for assistance if anyone has access to HBW or The Cornell Bird Lab and would be willing to email me information. If folks have other good sources in general about the Cactus Wren, and would be willing to share, I need all the help I can get. Thanks all! Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 22:20, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Righto folks, am in process of buffing Masked booby and have info from HANZAB, however the HANZAB treatment is really focused on Australia/NZ so could do with some balancing from elsewhere. All input appreciated Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 03:55, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi all, there is an ongoing issue at Black-throated finch. This bird is topical as the southern subspecies, is estimated to have disappeared from 80% of its range (scroll down) according to Australian Government. However, an IP has been disputing ( see here for their interpretation and then tagging here and here. Talk page discussion continues. Essentially they are dismissing evidence of decline as anecdotal and of poor quality, and hence nonexistent. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 03:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Sorry meant to add that its range overlaps with a huge and highly controversial huge coal mine proposed for the area. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 03:23, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi friends! This recent paper on PLOS Biology talks about your great work about birds on WP. Congratulations for all. Ixocactus ( talk) 17:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
At Talk:Western_cattle_egret Shyamal ( talk) 07:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Could somebody please review Draft:List of birds of Tristan da Cunha. It needs a Subject-matter expert to evaluate the sources. For example, I can't tell if Avibase is considered a WP:RS or not. My first reaction from looking at the website was that it probably wasn't, but I see it listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/References, so maybe it's OK? Somebody who knows the area better than I do would be a better reviewer than me. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
As a pending issue, I wish to collect contributors' opinions regarding the eventual creation of a World Geographical Scheme for Recording Bird Distributions... which could be:
-- Couiros22 ( talk) 17:28, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
A couple of weeks ago I noticed that there was a portal for Portal:Kinglets linked to kinglets. I was slightly bemused but moved on. Then I noticed this discussion on the mass creation of portals. It seems we have a lot of portals for bird families on our hands now, since randomly checking shows we have Portal:Parrots and Portal:Gulls. Not really sure what we do with that. The bird portal itself seems badly broken now too. Sabine's Sunbird talk 04:31, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Please see:
— SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 16:53, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Also:
— SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 18:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Can someone with access to HBW help with information on the Jacana family in general and the entries for Metopidius indicus and Hydrophasianus chirurgus - also any chance that someone has access to Fry, C.H. (1983). "The jacanid radius and microparra a neotenic genus". Gerfaut. 73 (2): 173–184. Shyamal ( talk) 15:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Quote: "The sand martin is sociable in its nesting habits; from a dozen to many hundred pairs will nest close together, according to available space. The nests are at the end of tunnels of from a few inches to three or four feet in length, bored in sand or gravel. The actual nest is a litter of straw and feathers in a chamber at the end of the burrow; it soon becomes a hotbed of parasites."
None of that is referenced. The last seven words seem odd and out of place. I'd welcome one of you to take a look.
This species of birds is currently making the news in the UK: [14] -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 21:34, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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I emailed NatureServe, an organization that has compiled huge amounts of data about bird ranges and populations (as well as other animals and plants) about possibly using their maps on Wikipedia articles. Their maps are used on Cornell Lab of Ornithology's Neotropical Birds database, and in many other places. The NatureServe chief zoologist and senior conservation scientist responded and said that they would be happy to allow their data to be incorporated on here, but he wanted to talk to someone about organizing that. I think their maps and information are extremely valuable, and could provide range maps and population data for thousands of bird species. I am just a beginner editor, so I'm not the best representative for this Project: is there someone who would be able to speak for all of WikiProject Birds and work things out with NatureServe? If so you can email me and I can get you in contact with the organization. Audrey.m.horn ( talk) 12:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I'm not sure if this the correct place to ask this, but can someone here tell me what is the species and genus of these birds? File:Time to Feed.jpg, the only info is, this photo taken from Indonesia. Thank you.-- AldNon Ucallin?☎ 18:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
For those of you in the United Kingdom, and active on Commons, I have just created c:Category:Gilleard Brothers. If you have pictures of hides (or other structures) made by Gilleards, please add them to that category.
I have also created a corresponding Wikidata item:
Gilleard Bros Ltd (Q63196584); so if you edit on OpenStreetMap, you can tag hides etc. with manufacturer:wikidata=Q63196584
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Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 15:19, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
If any one has birded in the Montego Bay/Ochos Rios area of Jamaica and knows of a professional guide or has any other useful info, please email me Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:05, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Despite the many Wikipedians who edit content related to organisms/species, there hasn't been a Tree of Life Newsletter...until now! If you would like regular deliveries of said newsletter, please add your name to the subscribers list. Thanks, Enwebb ( talk) 00:27, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
I could use some help, please, identfying the species in c:Category:John Cotton's Notebook, all of which are from NSW, Australia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:09, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Quite a number of images needing identification and categorization here. Shyamal ( talk) 04:43, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello, there is a birds related featured list up for review here: Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of birds of Vieques/archive1. It is very, very outdated and I'm not sure it is worth the massive effort needed to bring it up to current standards, however if anyone is interested the link is provided. Mattximus ( talk) 15:37, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
I already put a post at resource request, but thought I might try my luck here as well due to subject matter. Anyone have access to this text?
I'm looking for the pages on Acerodon jubatus starting at page 217, so probably just 217 and 218. Thanks, Enwebb ( talk) 02:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
I've recently started making tables for bird genera, as can be seen here: Accipiter. What do you think? Are there any improvements that you could see, before I apply this format to other pages? Perhaps I can include an arrow in the IUCN column for increasing/stable/decreasing populations? I've modeled it after the recently promoted List of parrots.
I do have one question. I would like to help make range maps. If you notice in Accipiter there are several different formats, but I would love to help standardize those so wikipedia resembles the high quality of a book encyclopedia. If anyone is willing to teach me how to make one, I'm happy to start the work. I have found the source information, which is easily available here [16] for example, I just don't know how to make the maps as nice as say:
Mattximus ( talk) 14:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
The IOC currently recognises two subspecies of the New Zealand plover. It is proposed that the two recently created subspecies articles ( Northern red-breasted plover and Southern red-breasted plover) be merged into the parent species article. If splitting is recognised at a later date, they can always be restored. Thoughts and comments? Loopy30 ( talk) 11:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Obviously I disagreed, and the current state of the articles is the result of reverts that claim the IOC is the rule and frustrate attempts to expand each taxa. Who else recognises the IOC as the last word, except wikipedia? Most importantly, the IUCN recognises the taxa as two species. One species, or subspecies, is a critically endangered population of sixty birds, which was merely a brief note when I found the article and its muddied facts. I hesitate to fix or expand the articles because this situation was going to arise, as I see in page histories elsewhere, lump it all together and throw away that which is deemed irrelevant to the article. One of the rarest birds in the world and there is not much to say about them? cygnis insignis 16:44, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
This species Lesser Sundas goshawk is not listed by the IOC in any of the bird lists, however it is recognized by the IUCN. Which organization would you consider "definitive" if that is even possible? Mattximus ( talk) 19:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Can I draw your attention to a question that I have posed on the Rook (bird) talk page about whether certain content should be included in the article. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 17:57, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
With the release of IOC 9.2 here, could somebody with the necessarily privileges switch Grey jay with the Canada jay redirect. Many thanks Aa77zz ( talk) 19:50, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
There is a current move discussion happening at Struthio dmanisensis that needs help from taxonomy-literate editors-- Kev min § 15:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
For anyone interested, I've decided to merge the non passerine and passerine Japan lists into the main list above. Japan doesn't have many more species than many other lists that have only one list. If I get no feedback, I'll probably do the same with the Indonesian list. It doesn't have many more species than South America, Asia, Brazil or India which only has one list. As far as I know, Japan and Indonesia are the only 2 states with more than one list..... Pvmoutside ( talk) 15:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
I've now also merged the List of birds of Indonesia. Over the next couple of weeks i'll change tbe formats of this and the Japan lists to follow Clements like many of the other countries do..... Pvmoutside ( talk) 14:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Anyone interested in commenting on the spelling discussion here? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:47, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Anybody interested in these "vital article" levels might want to chime in (yay or nay) on a bird-related suggestion here. MeegsC ( talk) 20:40, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
For anyone interested, the Clements/ebird update has been published on ebird, but has yet to follow on the Clements page at Cornell. Since the project uses IOC for taxonomy, it only affects regional bird pages (ie country lists, state lists, etc). I usually wait until the changes appear on the Clements page, but I thought people would like to know. Changes here: [17].... Pvmoutside ( talk) 10:31, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
I have 2 GANs ( Rock parrot and Western yellow robin) and there is a Peer Review open at Wikipedia:Peer review/Cactus wren/archive1....we are nearly at 200 FAs...which'd be nice. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 00:33, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. I completely rewrote the article above... because it annoyed me. But perhaps it would be best to rename it completely... Something along the line of: Macaw reintroductions in Costa Rica or "population" or some-such? Cheers. Leo Breman ( talk) 16:10, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I've been planning to work on some relatively obscure birds, which aren't covered so well by book sources. HBW access would be invaluable, but I'm disinclined to pay for it at the moment; is there anyone on this project with access who'd be willing to look up some species for me? Best, Vanamonde ( Talk) 17:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Some years back, the Pearson Scott Foresman company donated a ton of line art to Commons. These were items which had been in their illustrated dictionaries. However, they didn't label all the images - and in fact, they donated them in the form of assemblies of images, with filenames like "PSF-W1040007" that indicate only the first letter of the words illustrated by the images.
That's the context. Can anyone identify these birds whose names begin with W?
Thanks. DS ( talk) 14:36, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
The second bird might be an Eurasian wren (Troglodytes troglodytes). - Aa77zz ( talk) 15:57, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
First --wood pigeon? Leo Breman ( talk) 16:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Honestly, I doubt the PSF Corporation cared about anything more specific (no pun intended) than "wren". Good to know I got the whimbrel right - is #4 indeed a whippoorwill? DS ( talk) 23:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm dubious about an un-cited claim. Does anyone know about, or have cites for this question?
Discussion at /info/en/?search=Talk:Bird_strike#%22a_white_circle_which_discourages_birds_from_flying_into_the_engine%22
Thanks - 2804:14D:5C59:8300:0:0:0:1000 ( talk) 00:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
It appears that a couple of editors are planning to make all regional lists (outside of the AOC zone) uniformly follow Clements rather than IOC, not sure what the others feel about this. Shyamal ( talk) 06:44, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
@ Craigthebirder: @ Pvmoutside:
Hi all, I'm working on bringing the first alphabetical animal species, Apororhynchus, (based on taxonomy) up to featured status (for fun?), and I came across a bird mystery you may be able to help me with.
The parasite was said to be found in Santos, Brazil infecting a "Oriolus cristatus" [18]. This name I cannot find any record of otherwise, except another keen user found it as a reference to an Indian bird [19] which does not make sense. In a slightly newer reference [20], they call it "Cacicus cristatus", also not a modern name. My question is, is there any way to determine exactly what bird this is from these references? Thanks! Mattximus ( talk) 01:47, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Is this project still going on.? If so how can one become a member of it.? I would really like to join the team and contribute. I am a passionate birder who has been birding in the Indian sub continent for more than 6 years. -- Akasmita ( talk) 04:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
I've been working on the Saint Croix macaw article, but just noticed that the name "Saint Croix macaw" is not actually used by any sources (all Googled references refer back to Wikipedia), so I suspect it was made up for the article. The only name that seems to have been used is "Puerto Rican macaw", by at least Joseph Forshaw and Julian Hume. So should the article be moved there? The bird also does not seem to be covered by the IUCN or Birdlife, so it's hard to find any list of recognised names. FunkMonk ( talk) 05:22, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
What is wrong with using Ara autocthones as the title? WP:COMMONNAME says to use the name found in "independent, reliable English-language sources". Are there any reliable English-language sources that do not mention Ara autocthones as a name for this topic? Plantdrew ( talk) 04:01, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm using the internet on my Kindle and I can't cut and paste links.
can I request an edit for Snowball (cockatoo)? He's been the subject of news reports again recently due to the fact that a new study has been published. If you look on Google News, you'll see it. About him coming up with his own dance moves.
Thank you. I don't know if anyone will see it if I put it on the article tak page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.140.124 ( talk) 01:53, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
As before, can anyone identify the bird in this line art, for which all we know is that the name of its species begins with "W"? Thanks. DS ( talk) 04:44, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
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The article Endemic birds of western and central Africa is IMO incomplete and lacks any sort of relevance (based on a political rather than geo-environmental area). Wouldn't it be more useful deleting or why not renaming it according to another, more meaningful area of presence, e.g. « birds of Equatorial Africa » ; there are many birds which share a range of distribution that corresponds +/- exactly to the African tropical equatorial rainforest region: the contiguous region including areas around the gulf of Guinea and Central Africa (see below) ; c.f. also (in French) Liste des oiseaux d'Afrique équatoriale -- Couiros22 ( talk) 13:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
On the Macgregor's Bowerbird page, the image is of Loria's Satinbird, Cnemophilus loriae, which is in a different Family. (I've only done minimal editing in Wikipedia, and am not up to changing an illustration.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapaculo47 ( talk • contribs) 17:41, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response! (I'm not sure f the right way to respond to this.) This bird is featured in a new Netflix documentary "Dancing with the Birds", which includes startling footage of this bird's mimicry... so there might be more traffic to Wikipedia and I'm glad this was fixed. I wonder if there is a proper way to get an image from Netflix... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapaculo47 ( talk • contribs) 03:23, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
After all the fun with the Spooky Species Contest last month, there's a new contest for the (Northern hemisphere's) Winter holidays at Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Contest. It's not just Christmas, but anything festive from December-ish. Feel free to add some ideas to the Festive taxa list and enter early and often. -- Nessie ( talk) 18:10, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
FYI: I have opened a CFD discussion regarding merging the two categories for Birding and Birdwatching. If you wish to share your views on this, please join the discussion here. Regards, Anomalous+0 ( talk) 00:56, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Happy New Year, if it is yours today. Here is an IP changing Gender to Sex on the Blue Tit article and here is me changing it back ... not because I believe that am right but (please see my rambling edit summary) because it looks like a big topic and I am hoping that there is some established custom and practice here or in the MOS or something? And, yes, I know I could go and look it all up for myself but my early attempt was not encouraging and the whole point/hope of posting here is that someone who reads it simply knows the answer and will tell me it, which is, I think, a far better solution. Cheers DBaK ( talk) 14:40, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree, gender is a distinctly human concept. It should not be used outside of the human context. Luckily, I do not believe that is contentious. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 19:03, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
In your page on the Albatross you state that,the extraordinary flight duration is achieved by, "dynamic soaring and slope soaring", I would like to suggest another phenomenon the bird probably benefits from: high pressure air. This can be easily demonstrated by a simple experiment ; partly fill a basin with water , with enough room and access to allow manual agitation while covering most of it with thin polystyrene,e.g. 3mm "Depron".When the water is made to form crests the poly cover rises immediately. The sea bird has only to stay over the rising crests of swells ( probably on the forward edge/slope) as they move through the water, to be always in rising , high pressure,air.Gliding does the rest. Slope soaring" ,as in your article, is only possible when a steady wind is rising up the slope.Swells move with the wind (and due to the wind) so there may not be an opposing wind.the swell is moving with the wind. Cold air in high latitudes is much more dense and supporting than warm air ' perhaps 20% more . The seas in those latitudes generally have stronger and more continuous swells. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB19:874A:9F00:2CAA:881E:1E62:A2D7 ( talk) 21:41, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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Righto, keeping the production line going (seems to have slowed a little...). I have been working on orange-bellied parrot and letter-winged kite (both sporadically), and have a hankering to do red-tailed tropicbird or masked booby as I have just seen a bunch of them in Norfolk Island up close. I noticed red-headed woodpecker was in a bit of a sorry state and started tinkering today. I can see RileyBugz wants to work on yellow-bellied sapsucker and tree swallow at some point. Our collaboration page has parrot, Toco toucan and Corvus, plus Sabine's Sunbird were/are working on Steller's sea eagle...but just run out of a bit of puff on that one as the whole superlative thing is a bit of a quagmire and the sources and text don't exactly match...sigh...I can see Aa77zz has been working on the Crowned pigeons too...so anyway, just seeing if anyone has any enthusiasm for one of these or something else. Seeing where we're up to. One way of keeping up momentum is buffing something that is already GA or a collaboration. I am open to suggestions, or I'll just tinker if no-one is up for a collaboration. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 09:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Category:Birds of the Miombo is currently being discussed at this CFD. Members of this project are invited to join the discussion. DexDor (talk) 17:55, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
This image - File:PSF-W1040011.png - includes line art of a bird. It was made to be used in an encyclopedia, so we can assume it's very representative. And, based on the way the PSF images are laid out, I'm pretty sure it's a species whose name begins with "wood". Can anyone supply more details? DS ( talk) 18:41, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Spectacled flowerpecker - opinions? Shyamal ( talk) 05:46, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
An article of interest to this project— Communal roosting—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Mathglot ( talk) 06:19, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Am buffing this article for FAC...but don't have access to HBW online. I have at hand all the HANZAB material but that gives the pantropical species a somewhat australian focus. Anyone want to add and collaborate for FAC? Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 13:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
In the pheasant pigeon article the following situation occurs: The IUCN recognizes 4 species instead of 1 species with 4 subspecies, and has adapted the IUCN states to that by removing the overal status from the website and only publishing the states from the separate (sub)species. I think it would be best to remove the status from the article as well and only put the subspecies states on the page because we can't assume that the IUCN would still grant the species this status these days. However, as someone has put the status back, I would like to hear what other people think about it. Jarne Colman ( talk) 22:28, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I would like to ask why the Dodo is not included in the List of Columbidae species? Thank you in advance. TaurenMoonlighting ( talk) 17:15, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello, there's a proposal to delete all Wikipedia portals. Please see the discussion here. -- NaBUru38 ( talk) 13:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
The discussion has been moved here. N. Jain (talk to me) 20:31, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links#Should set index links be disambiguated? for an open discussion, which includes my opinion. If anyone can identify the correct binomial name, that would be one of those little problems solved. Thanks in advance, Narky Blert ( talk) 23:05, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comment: categorizing by year of formal description for a discussion on possible guidelines for categorizing by year of formal description of a species. Peter coxhead ( talk) 10:56, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi all, I've proposed deleting Ibera seedeater because of a lack of sources for the topic. Only 1 primary source exists, and no secondary sources exist, so it's not really possible to provide a NPOV. Also, at this time I don't know if there's enough consensus in the scientific community regarding the status of this taxon as a distinct species. Feel free to comment here or on the article's talk page. N. Jain (talk to me) 00:37, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
I need help from an admin to move an article. I want to delete the current Yellow grosbeak article (which is a redirect) and move Mexican yellow grosbeak to Yellow grosbeak.
Background
The moves are a result of the changes to the English names by the IOC. Previously there were two articles on "yellow grosbeaks":
Many thanks - Aa77zz ( talk) 21:46, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
I would like help from an admin to move Snowfinch to Montifringilla (currently a redirect). For reasons I don't understand, I'm unable to move this myself.
Background
Previously the 8 snowfinches were all placed in the genus Montifringilla. According to the IOC, HBW alive and H&M4 pp.307-308 (but not Clements) they are now split into three genera: Montifringilla (3 species), Onychostruthus (monotypic white-rumped snowfinch) and Pyrgilauda (4 species). The most recent molecular phylogenetic study ( Qu et al 2006) supports this split. Following the move I'll edit the Snowfinch redirect page and list the three genera.
Many thanks - Aa77zz ( talk) 09:25, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata now has a property, eBird hotspot ID (P5200), for the IDs for nature reserves and other places ("hotposts") on eBird. I have made {{ EBird hotspot}} to make it easy to add links to relevant pages, using that ID; see, for example, Armash Important Bird Area#External links. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
This is John(Y-B-F-L)Bates John(Y-B-F-L) ( talk) 13:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC) Hello I made original deductions from information published on Journal/Website All about birds, if that's not a peer reviewed journal then nothing is. Also you kept my original information but removed my cite. That is plagiarism. Most universities ask you to swear not to do that. John(Y-B-F-L) ( talk) 13:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.
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Thank you. — The Transhumanist 07:27, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Another study see doi: 10.1016/j.ympev.2018.03.029 - which suggests among others that Chaetornis striata will probably move to the genus Schoenicola - Shyamal ( talk) 04:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
I started a discussion here about possibly renaming hawking (birds) and gleaning (birds) to reflect that these are strategies also used by insectivorous bats. Weigh in if you have suggestions. Enwebb ( talk) 01:54, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
People here might be interested in the Wikipedia:GLAM/New Zealand Wikipedian at Large. User:Giantflightlessbirds is encouraging improvements to articles about New Zealand's endangered species. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 16:41, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on changing the title of the article on the Grey jay. If members of this project are interested in providing input, please see the discussion. Thanks. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 16:17, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Several categories such as Category:Wintering birds of East Africa are being discussed at CFD. Members of this project are invited to join the discussion. DexDor (talk) 16:13, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Does anybody happen to have a subscription to the Birds of North America? If so, I would like the appearance section for the tree swallow, so I can add the colours of its beak and tarsus before taking it to FAC. Thanks! RileyBugz 私に叫ぼう 私の編集 15:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
FYI, the latest update (June 27, 2018) is out from the IOC. Plenty of new changes, Ive already split the white-collared seedeater, and will do others as time allows. Nothing yet on Canada Jay, but the draft template has been placed, so I expect something soon. and given the AOS as already made the Jay change official, I would feel very comfortable changing it as soon as the draft is out.... Pvmoutside ( talk) 15:36, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
The titles and content for the " scrubbirds", the target of Atrichornithidae and Atrichornis, including the species under their common names, noisy scrubbird and rufous scrubbird, currently follow the IOC's "Scrubbirds". I don't know if this is found in the IOU's original publication, or if that is what the IOC World Bird List follows, but they give many references to their mission: hyphen-omission, eg. hyphens, On Hyphens and Phylogeny et al. There is, however, an exception
I can find no other source that omits a hyphen or space in the name, giving instead "Scrub-bird" or "Scrub bird", and this bibliography also suggests the general preference is to hyphenate. cygnis insignis 16:27, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
The tree swallow and northern gannet are at FAC (although the latter seems to be almost done). Also, I think it would be nice to do a collab to get the swallow article up to a featured article. Thoughts on that? RileyBugz 私に叫ぼう 私の編集 20:15, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
The ioc has split the superb bird-of-paradise, and are calling each of the species Greater Lophorina, Crescent-caped Lophorina, and Lesser Lophorina. Prevailing literature are calling them Greater superb bird-of-paradise, Vogelkop superb bird-of-paradise, and Lesser superb bird-of-paradise, respectively. The Project uses the IOC for English names, but Im not sure what to do in this case. Ill go with consensus..... Pvmoutside ( talk) 20:25, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
There is an RfC regarding recommending usage of automatic taxoboxes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comments: Should the automatic taxobox system be the current recommended practice?. Inviting anybody who watches this page to contribute their thoughts to that thread.
WikiProject Birds is currently using automatic taxoboxes in 68.2% of project tagged articles that have any form of taxobox. Plantdrew ( talk) 01:35, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I notice there are two pages attempting to link articles via the name "bronzewing": one is minimal form of SIA, Bronzewing, another contains discussion of a 'group', " Bronzewing pigeon". The solution is probably something in between, but that requires some work with page history, merging, and correcting text on the incoming links. The second page was created in 2003, and has since been chopped, patched, and tagged for the single reference given to support the page's quirky concept of a group.
I note all this here in case further discussion is needed, and for the interest of project members working on the arrangement of bird articles. And also to ask, Is there a way to tag dabs and similar bird pages for improvement in the future? And while I'm here, quibbling about this and that, I'll add that this project's articles have been very useful to me over the years and the efforts of all here deserves praise :) cygnis insignis 08:49, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
I have a problem with the bird vocalization article. The two choices a blackbird and the australian raven are weak choices. One has been over dubbed to isolate and the sound quality suffers as a result. The other is too quick leaving no real appreciation for the animal's call. There are no really good examples of mimicry which happens to be a trait in birds not found in too many other animals in the natural world. Shouldn't that be better represented? Finally and most importantly the Eastern Pewee is a perfect accessible bird song. The length of the recording is good and the animal has a song phrase that is easily accessible to any listener encountering bird song for the first time (an ascending and descending set of phrases grounded by the opening note). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davros69999 ( talk • contribs) 14:25, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Hello! Does anybody have a subscription to Birds of North America? The killdeer description section is a tidge messy, and I'd like to confirm everything in there, and so the appearance section that BNA has should be good enough to do that. Thanks! RileyBugz 私に叫ぼう 私の編集 20:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
First-time talker here - very sorry if I am in the wrong project for this request? The Fifty-ninth Supplement to the American Ornithological Society's Check-list of North American Birds notes that Arizona Woodpecker (formerly L. arizonae) should now be assigned to the genus Dryobates. I suspect there are many such scientific and common name changes needed to the wiki articles whenever a new July issue of the Auk comes out. Is there a central repository of such change requests I need to visit before suggesting an edit? [1] CarlHaynie ( talk) 21:22, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
References
It is now possible to generate automatically updated lists of articles that are on other language Wikipedias but missing on English using Wikidata - an example can be found here where biographies included in other language Wikipedias (or Wikispecies where all taxon authors are included). Shyamal ( talk) 03:53, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I've just noticed that back in January there was a weird something that happened to Jacana. The page was probably moved with cut and paste and then an admin deleted and placed a dab page in its place. This means that a decade of edits have been lost and someone has thrown up a stub at Jacanidae. Fellow bird admins - thoughts on the best way to untangle this mess technically? More generally, maybe run a rfc about whether jacana the bird is the primary subject? Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:23, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Peacock tail. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. HighFlyingFish ( talk) 01:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
In this [5] DNA paper. Should we follow and merge? FunkMonk ( talk) 02:06, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
In ~1830, Gabriele de Sanctis produced an ornamental alphabet where each letter was illustrated with a lavishly detailed bird. Names were provided... but the labels are in extremely ornate calligraphy, and the spelling is a little arbitrary (and in Italian).
And just to make things harder, he didn't stick as closely to the notion of 'a letter is represented by a bird whose name begins with that letter' as he should have - for instance, 'X' is the Airone Bianco.
I found reasonably-high-quality scans of three pages of three letters each and uploaded them to Commons - file:Avian Alphabet by Gabriele de Sanctis - ABC.jpg, file:Avian Alphabet by Gabriele de Sanctis - NOP.jpg, and file:Avian Alphabet by Gabriele de Sanctis - XYZ.jpg - with conclusive ID's of 6 of the birds, a pretty close guess for a 7th, and no idea for the the other two. The images look (to my inexpert eye) pretty well done; can anyone have a go at identifying them? DS ( talk) 15:18, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Ornithology includes a link to point count, which is a redirect to a DAB page. All the entries on the DAB page are hopelessly irrelevant. IMO a good solution might be a brief inline explanation of the term in the article. Does anyone feel up to the task? Narky Blert ( talk) 11:15, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I am not able to add my name to the list. How is it done? Qwerty number1 ( talk) 07:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Qwerty number1 ( talk) 15:37, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
How can the Sydney Bin Chicken, a national cultural icon and connoisseur of bin juice, be ranked as "Low Importance"? I would encourage ornithologists to please update themselves with this 'Planet Earth' episode. Bin Chicken SC would not be at all impressed and I fear that you may end up with a legal fight on your hands, if his eminent status is not duly noted. 14.200.91.233 ( talk) 01:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
I need help in identifying the two birds of prey in flight above. I took the pictures in the Volerie des aigles. -- AmBu ( talk) 00:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
See Talk:Tasmanian nativehen. Maias ( talk) 00:10, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi there. I've almost completely rewritten the article on this bird. The original text was almost all cited to the 'Birds of North America' website (info from the 1992 book), which is inaccessible behind a paywall for me. Much of this original text appeared logically wrong to me, and as I have researched further I have noted much disputable information. Up till now I've attributed that to the authors of the original 'Birds of North America' (BNA) reference, but I am suspecting that the text was mostly made up by the editor who added it in 2017 and unjustly referenced to BNA at the time. I don't want to put stuff in the mouth of the authors of BNA when they didn't state it.
Could someone with access to this site confirm my suspicions? Here are discrepancies I've noted:
Thank you. Leo 86.83.56.115 ( talk) 23:08, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
I reading about the responses to an imitated whistle and to an Audubon bird caller, the author (in HANZAB) thought to specify the type (trademarked I think), and I thought a link would be helpful. There is another term related to this, when people suck their teeth to provoke a response, and I wonder if this sort of interaction is already mentioned somewhere. I didn't see anything in bird vocalisation, if that is place for discussion. cygnis insignis 12:07, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on capitalization of the names of standardized breeds.
This is a neutral RfC on a question left unanswered by MOS:LIFE (on purpose in 2012–2014, pending "later discussion"). It is now later, and lack of resolution of the question has held up MOS:ORGANISMS in draft proposal state for 6 years. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:03, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that today's featured photo (File:Pied-winged swallow (Hirundo leucosoma).jpg) is the lovely Pied-winged swallow which is in this project's purview. I saw that there was almost no info on the page and so went about sprucing it up a bit. But I couldn't find any good references except for this HBW page. However I don't have an HBW subscription and was wondering if a project member did and would be willing to help/collaborate with me on giving this bird the coverage it deserves! Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 09:55, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
The article Osprey, Pandion haliaetus, formerly included a subspecies Pandion haliaetus cristatus, that the IOC (apparently, haven't checked) have recognised as a species Pandion cristatus and that a user has created under eastern osprey. Evidently, this was a copy paste from the P. haliaetus, and when I noted that proper attribution I thanked the user for an uncharacteristic job well done in that regard.
However, that is all they did! much of the content is about the cosmopolitan species and is little more than a great kludge of precise bullshit—fully referenced from unrelated sources— that was carelessly dumped into this article. There has been some activity since, or I would be inclined to restore the redirect, as it is I propose to blank the fabricated content and replace it with some properly sourced information. Secondly, I propose that the activities of this editor be censored, and I ask that members of this project seek to endorse that and stop actual damage being done to articles within its scope in the most time effective and drama free way possible. If someone here knows the user, or has communicated successfully with them, now is the time to tell to stop screwing up content and see about fixing the mess. @ Pvmoutside:, pinging that account, although fairly warned this was coming. cygnis insignis 17:18, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
At Talk:Southern boobook there is a daily page view chart, but it doesn't seem to render right when I look at it. I have fiddled with my machine on this end and I am fairly certain its not my computer, could someone here look into it? TomStar81 ( Talk) 08:10, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Our page List of birds of the world is presently 560,973 bytes long, making it difficult to edit. According to Special:LongPages it's the 22nd longest article in Wikipedia. I think it needs to be subdivided, but I'm a copy editor not a taxonomist and I don't know how. There's been some discussion at Talk:List of birds of the world#Size, but I haven't been able to take it forward. If anyone could offer suggestions there or here, I'd be thankful. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 06:18, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
The bird featured for Alcippe brunneicauda is an incorrect identification. The e-mail for the user is no longer valid. Anyone interested in correcting it ....the bird linked is actually an adult Malacocincla abbotti williamsoni (Abbott's Babbler). Steve Pryor ( talk) 14:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Pitta is at GAN. Figured I'd try and get it to FAC while I was on a christmas break. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:28, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Aa77zz has raised an excellent point about the family authority for the Pitta's on that page's talk page, namely that there is some question as to whether the generally accepted authority is correct. What to do about it is unclear, however, without treading too deeply into OR, so given that the article in question is at FAC if you have time to have a look and chip in with suggestions that would be great. Sabine's Sunbird talk 06:06, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi experts, I'd like your assistance in identifying this bird in the Palo Alto Baylands: File:Unknown bird Palo Alto May 2011.jpg. I don't even know the broad category; is it a juvenile gull, or something else entirely? Most of the birds I photographed that day were California gulls, but comparing photos it doesn't match any gull I can find. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:47, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comment: new classification scheme for eukaryotes, which asks for comments on how we should deal with a proposed new classification system that has widespread ramifications across the tree of life. Peter coxhead ( talk) 09:47, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello birdy project! Can some kind person please have a look at Talk:Guillemot where Naamloze gebruiker is asking about the interwiki links? If you go there you'll see the whole story but what I think it boils down to is the slight naming mess around guillemots and murres. Being horribly ignorant in this whole area I am not even dipping a toe in the water in case I damage something but someone with more knowledge might be able to better advise. Thanks and best wishes to all DBaK ( talk) 08:28, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
I normally write FAs about birds or nature reserves, but I live fairly close to Willughby's ancestral home, and I was given The Wonderful Mr Willughby: The First True Ornithologist for Christmas, so I thought I'd have a shot at a biography. Shyamal has been extremely helpful in getting me access to a number of my sources, so to some extent it's been a matter of what to leave out, given that I'm condensing hundreds of pages of material.
I won't submit to FAC until the beginning of March, since I've a trip to Seville and Cadiz planned later this month, so I'd welcome any comments on this biography in the interim. Thanks also to Aa77zz for steering me towards a more rational referencing style than I had originally used Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:33, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Just bringing a mention of a discussion about the taxobox systematics used by basal "birds" outside crown group Aves, which may have implications on the taxobox display of pages that fall within this project. Feel free to leave comments, questions, concerns. Follow the link here. IJReid {{ T - C - D - R}} 00:25, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Input sought At Wikipedia talk:Automated taxobox system/Archive 1#Fixing inconsistent ranks in taxonomy templates I've suggested some alternative ways of fixing inconsistent ranks in taxonomy templates. They could make it easier to deal with the problem of inconsistent classification systems, e.g. the ones used for birds and dinosaurs, or the ones used for mammals and dinosaurs. Be warned that it's a long post, but it very much needs input, particularly from "old hands" at using the automated taxobox system. Peter coxhead ( talk) 15:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Discussions elsewhere led to ErikHaugen changing Template:Taxonomy/Avialae so that it no longer skips the "dinosaur" clades and ranks.
This caused some taxonomy templates and taxoboxes to have inconsistent ranks. I've fixed these: quite a few of the taxonomy templates were unused, so I removed them; for those that were used, I replaced the offending rank by "clade".
The change to Template:Taxonomy/Avialae does mean that articles about extinct birds, such as Gansus, will now show the "dinosaur taxonomy" rather than the classical "bird taxonomy". Peter coxhead ( talk) 09:00, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
See Talk:Strisores#Confused taxonomy. It would be good if someone knowledgeable could sort this. Peter coxhead ( talk) 13:32, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Both Peters and H&M4 Vol 2 p.557 give the type species of the genus Troglodytes as the house wren (Troglodytes aedon). The genus was erected by Vieillot in 1809 but the type was subsequently designated by Baird in Reports of explorations and surveys, to ascertain the most practicable and economical route for a railroad from the Mississippi River to the Pacific Ocean here.
I expected the type species to be the Eurasian wren (Troglodytes troglodytes). The wiki article on tautonyms states "For animals, a tautonym implicitly indicates that the species is the type of its genus". The article cites ICZN. Chapter 15 Art. 68a. There isn't a 68a but 68.4 reads:
"68.4. Type species by absolute tautonymy. If a valid species-group name, or its cited synonym, originally included [Art. 67.2] in a nominal genus-group taxon is identical with the name of that taxon, the nominal species denoted by that specific name (if available) is the type species (type species by absolute tautonymy)."
This appears to support the tautonym article. What am I missing here? Why isn't the Eurasian wren the type? - Aa77zz ( talk) 16:37, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Howdy hello folks! I am currently majorly expanding Cactus wren in my sandbox (I've already increased its prose size threefold). While I've certainly found some great sources, there are two great sources that are behind paywalls! I am cordially asking for assistance if anyone has access to HBW or The Cornell Bird Lab and would be willing to email me information. If folks have other good sources in general about the Cactus Wren, and would be willing to share, I need all the help I can get. Thanks all! Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 22:20, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Righto folks, am in process of buffing Masked booby and have info from HANZAB, however the HANZAB treatment is really focused on Australia/NZ so could do with some balancing from elsewhere. All input appreciated Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 03:55, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi all, there is an ongoing issue at Black-throated finch. This bird is topical as the southern subspecies, is estimated to have disappeared from 80% of its range (scroll down) according to Australian Government. However, an IP has been disputing ( see here for their interpretation and then tagging here and here. Talk page discussion continues. Essentially they are dismissing evidence of decline as anecdotal and of poor quality, and hence nonexistent. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 03:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Sorry meant to add that its range overlaps with a huge and highly controversial huge coal mine proposed for the area. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 03:23, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi friends! This recent paper on PLOS Biology talks about your great work about birds on WP. Congratulations for all. Ixocactus ( talk) 17:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
At Talk:Western_cattle_egret Shyamal ( talk) 07:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Could somebody please review Draft:List of birds of Tristan da Cunha. It needs a Subject-matter expert to evaluate the sources. For example, I can't tell if Avibase is considered a WP:RS or not. My first reaction from looking at the website was that it probably wasn't, but I see it listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/References, so maybe it's OK? Somebody who knows the area better than I do would be a better reviewer than me. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
As a pending issue, I wish to collect contributors' opinions regarding the eventual creation of a World Geographical Scheme for Recording Bird Distributions... which could be:
-- Couiros22 ( talk) 17:28, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
A couple of weeks ago I noticed that there was a portal for Portal:Kinglets linked to kinglets. I was slightly bemused but moved on. Then I noticed this discussion on the mass creation of portals. It seems we have a lot of portals for bird families on our hands now, since randomly checking shows we have Portal:Parrots and Portal:Gulls. Not really sure what we do with that. The bird portal itself seems badly broken now too. Sabine's Sunbird talk 04:31, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Please see:
— SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 16:53, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Also:
— SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 18:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Can someone with access to HBW help with information on the Jacana family in general and the entries for Metopidius indicus and Hydrophasianus chirurgus - also any chance that someone has access to Fry, C.H. (1983). "The jacanid radius and microparra a neotenic genus". Gerfaut. 73 (2): 173–184. Shyamal ( talk) 15:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Quote: "The sand martin is sociable in its nesting habits; from a dozen to many hundred pairs will nest close together, according to available space. The nests are at the end of tunnels of from a few inches to three or four feet in length, bored in sand or gravel. The actual nest is a litter of straw and feathers in a chamber at the end of the burrow; it soon becomes a hotbed of parasites."
None of that is referenced. The last seven words seem odd and out of place. I'd welcome one of you to take a look.
This species of birds is currently making the news in the UK: [14] -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 21:34, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
I emailed NatureServe, an organization that has compiled huge amounts of data about bird ranges and populations (as well as other animals and plants) about possibly using their maps on Wikipedia articles. Their maps are used on Cornell Lab of Ornithology's Neotropical Birds database, and in many other places. The NatureServe chief zoologist and senior conservation scientist responded and said that they would be happy to allow their data to be incorporated on here, but he wanted to talk to someone about organizing that. I think their maps and information are extremely valuable, and could provide range maps and population data for thousands of bird species. I am just a beginner editor, so I'm not the best representative for this Project: is there someone who would be able to speak for all of WikiProject Birds and work things out with NatureServe? If so you can email me and I can get you in contact with the organization. Audrey.m.horn ( talk) 12:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I'm not sure if this the correct place to ask this, but can someone here tell me what is the species and genus of these birds? File:Time to Feed.jpg, the only info is, this photo taken from Indonesia. Thank you.-- AldNon Ucallin?☎ 18:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
For those of you in the United Kingdom, and active on Commons, I have just created c:Category:Gilleard Brothers. If you have pictures of hides (or other structures) made by Gilleards, please add them to that category.
I have also created a corresponding Wikidata item:
Gilleard Bros Ltd (Q63196584); so if you edit on OpenStreetMap, you can tag hides etc. with manufacturer:wikidata=Q63196584
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Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 15:19, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
If any one has birded in the Montego Bay/Ochos Rios area of Jamaica and knows of a professional guide or has any other useful info, please email me Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:05, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Despite the many Wikipedians who edit content related to organisms/species, there hasn't been a Tree of Life Newsletter...until now! If you would like regular deliveries of said newsletter, please add your name to the subscribers list. Thanks, Enwebb ( talk) 00:27, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
I could use some help, please, identfying the species in c:Category:John Cotton's Notebook, all of which are from NSW, Australia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:09, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Quite a number of images needing identification and categorization here. Shyamal ( talk) 04:43, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello, there is a birds related featured list up for review here: Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of birds of Vieques/archive1. It is very, very outdated and I'm not sure it is worth the massive effort needed to bring it up to current standards, however if anyone is interested the link is provided. Mattximus ( talk) 15:37, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
I already put a post at resource request, but thought I might try my luck here as well due to subject matter. Anyone have access to this text?
I'm looking for the pages on Acerodon jubatus starting at page 217, so probably just 217 and 218. Thanks, Enwebb ( talk) 02:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
I've recently started making tables for bird genera, as can be seen here: Accipiter. What do you think? Are there any improvements that you could see, before I apply this format to other pages? Perhaps I can include an arrow in the IUCN column for increasing/stable/decreasing populations? I've modeled it after the recently promoted List of parrots.
I do have one question. I would like to help make range maps. If you notice in Accipiter there are several different formats, but I would love to help standardize those so wikipedia resembles the high quality of a book encyclopedia. If anyone is willing to teach me how to make one, I'm happy to start the work. I have found the source information, which is easily available here [16] for example, I just don't know how to make the maps as nice as say:
Mattximus ( talk) 14:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
The IOC currently recognises two subspecies of the New Zealand plover. It is proposed that the two recently created subspecies articles ( Northern red-breasted plover and Southern red-breasted plover) be merged into the parent species article. If splitting is recognised at a later date, they can always be restored. Thoughts and comments? Loopy30 ( talk) 11:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Obviously I disagreed, and the current state of the articles is the result of reverts that claim the IOC is the rule and frustrate attempts to expand each taxa. Who else recognises the IOC as the last word, except wikipedia? Most importantly, the IUCN recognises the taxa as two species. One species, or subspecies, is a critically endangered population of sixty birds, which was merely a brief note when I found the article and its muddied facts. I hesitate to fix or expand the articles because this situation was going to arise, as I see in page histories elsewhere, lump it all together and throw away that which is deemed irrelevant to the article. One of the rarest birds in the world and there is not much to say about them? cygnis insignis 16:44, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
This species Lesser Sundas goshawk is not listed by the IOC in any of the bird lists, however it is recognized by the IUCN. Which organization would you consider "definitive" if that is even possible? Mattximus ( talk) 19:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Can I draw your attention to a question that I have posed on the Rook (bird) talk page about whether certain content should be included in the article. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 17:57, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
With the release of IOC 9.2 here, could somebody with the necessarily privileges switch Grey jay with the Canada jay redirect. Many thanks Aa77zz ( talk) 19:50, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
There is a current move discussion happening at Struthio dmanisensis that needs help from taxonomy-literate editors-- Kev min § 15:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
For anyone interested, I've decided to merge the non passerine and passerine Japan lists into the main list above. Japan doesn't have many more species than many other lists that have only one list. If I get no feedback, I'll probably do the same with the Indonesian list. It doesn't have many more species than South America, Asia, Brazil or India which only has one list. As far as I know, Japan and Indonesia are the only 2 states with more than one list..... Pvmoutside ( talk) 15:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
I've now also merged the List of birds of Indonesia. Over the next couple of weeks i'll change tbe formats of this and the Japan lists to follow Clements like many of the other countries do..... Pvmoutside ( talk) 14:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Anyone interested in commenting on the spelling discussion here? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:47, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Anybody interested in these "vital article" levels might want to chime in (yay or nay) on a bird-related suggestion here. MeegsC ( talk) 20:40, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
For anyone interested, the Clements/ebird update has been published on ebird, but has yet to follow on the Clements page at Cornell. Since the project uses IOC for taxonomy, it only affects regional bird pages (ie country lists, state lists, etc). I usually wait until the changes appear on the Clements page, but I thought people would like to know. Changes here: [17].... Pvmoutside ( talk) 10:31, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
I have 2 GANs ( Rock parrot and Western yellow robin) and there is a Peer Review open at Wikipedia:Peer review/Cactus wren/archive1....we are nearly at 200 FAs...which'd be nice. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 00:33, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. I completely rewrote the article above... because it annoyed me. But perhaps it would be best to rename it completely... Something along the line of: Macaw reintroductions in Costa Rica or "population" or some-such? Cheers. Leo Breman ( talk) 16:10, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I've been planning to work on some relatively obscure birds, which aren't covered so well by book sources. HBW access would be invaluable, but I'm disinclined to pay for it at the moment; is there anyone on this project with access who'd be willing to look up some species for me? Best, Vanamonde ( Talk) 17:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Some years back, the Pearson Scott Foresman company donated a ton of line art to Commons. These were items which had been in their illustrated dictionaries. However, they didn't label all the images - and in fact, they donated them in the form of assemblies of images, with filenames like "PSF-W1040007" that indicate only the first letter of the words illustrated by the images.
That's the context. Can anyone identify these birds whose names begin with W?
Thanks. DS ( talk) 14:36, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
The second bird might be an Eurasian wren (Troglodytes troglodytes). - Aa77zz ( talk) 15:57, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
First --wood pigeon? Leo Breman ( talk) 16:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Honestly, I doubt the PSF Corporation cared about anything more specific (no pun intended) than "wren". Good to know I got the whimbrel right - is #4 indeed a whippoorwill? DS ( talk) 23:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm dubious about an un-cited claim. Does anyone know about, or have cites for this question?
Discussion at /info/en/?search=Talk:Bird_strike#%22a_white_circle_which_discourages_birds_from_flying_into_the_engine%22
Thanks - 2804:14D:5C59:8300:0:0:0:1000 ( talk) 00:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
It appears that a couple of editors are planning to make all regional lists (outside of the AOC zone) uniformly follow Clements rather than IOC, not sure what the others feel about this. Shyamal ( talk) 06:44, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
@ Craigthebirder: @ Pvmoutside:
Hi all, I'm working on bringing the first alphabetical animal species, Apororhynchus, (based on taxonomy) up to featured status (for fun?), and I came across a bird mystery you may be able to help me with.
The parasite was said to be found in Santos, Brazil infecting a "Oriolus cristatus" [18]. This name I cannot find any record of otherwise, except another keen user found it as a reference to an Indian bird [19] which does not make sense. In a slightly newer reference [20], they call it "Cacicus cristatus", also not a modern name. My question is, is there any way to determine exactly what bird this is from these references? Thanks! Mattximus ( talk) 01:47, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Is this project still going on.? If so how can one become a member of it.? I would really like to join the team and contribute. I am a passionate birder who has been birding in the Indian sub continent for more than 6 years. -- Akasmita ( talk) 04:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
I've been working on the Saint Croix macaw article, but just noticed that the name "Saint Croix macaw" is not actually used by any sources (all Googled references refer back to Wikipedia), so I suspect it was made up for the article. The only name that seems to have been used is "Puerto Rican macaw", by at least Joseph Forshaw and Julian Hume. So should the article be moved there? The bird also does not seem to be covered by the IUCN or Birdlife, so it's hard to find any list of recognised names. FunkMonk ( talk) 05:22, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
What is wrong with using Ara autocthones as the title? WP:COMMONNAME says to use the name found in "independent, reliable English-language sources". Are there any reliable English-language sources that do not mention Ara autocthones as a name for this topic? Plantdrew ( talk) 04:01, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm using the internet on my Kindle and I can't cut and paste links.
can I request an edit for Snowball (cockatoo)? He's been the subject of news reports again recently due to the fact that a new study has been published. If you look on Google News, you'll see it. About him coming up with his own dance moves.
Thank you. I don't know if anyone will see it if I put it on the article tak page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.140.124 ( talk) 01:53, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
As before, can anyone identify the bird in this line art, for which all we know is that the name of its species begins with "W"? Thanks. DS ( talk) 04:44, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
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The article Endemic birds of western and central Africa is IMO incomplete and lacks any sort of relevance (based on a political rather than geo-environmental area). Wouldn't it be more useful deleting or why not renaming it according to another, more meaningful area of presence, e.g. « birds of Equatorial Africa » ; there are many birds which share a range of distribution that corresponds +/- exactly to the African tropical equatorial rainforest region: the contiguous region including areas around the gulf of Guinea and Central Africa (see below) ; c.f. also (in French) Liste des oiseaux d'Afrique équatoriale -- Couiros22 ( talk) 13:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
On the Macgregor's Bowerbird page, the image is of Loria's Satinbird, Cnemophilus loriae, which is in a different Family. (I've only done minimal editing in Wikipedia, and am not up to changing an illustration.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapaculo47 ( talk • contribs) 17:41, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response! (I'm not sure f the right way to respond to this.) This bird is featured in a new Netflix documentary "Dancing with the Birds", which includes startling footage of this bird's mimicry... so there might be more traffic to Wikipedia and I'm glad this was fixed. I wonder if there is a proper way to get an image from Netflix... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapaculo47 ( talk • contribs) 03:23, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
After all the fun with the Spooky Species Contest last month, there's a new contest for the (Northern hemisphere's) Winter holidays at Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Contest. It's not just Christmas, but anything festive from December-ish. Feel free to add some ideas to the Festive taxa list and enter early and often. -- Nessie ( talk) 18:10, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
FYI: I have opened a CFD discussion regarding merging the two categories for Birding and Birdwatching. If you wish to share your views on this, please join the discussion here. Regards, Anomalous+0 ( talk) 00:56, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Happy New Year, if it is yours today. Here is an IP changing Gender to Sex on the Blue Tit article and here is me changing it back ... not because I believe that am right but (please see my rambling edit summary) because it looks like a big topic and I am hoping that there is some established custom and practice here or in the MOS or something? And, yes, I know I could go and look it all up for myself but my early attempt was not encouraging and the whole point/hope of posting here is that someone who reads it simply knows the answer and will tell me it, which is, I think, a far better solution. Cheers DBaK ( talk) 14:40, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree, gender is a distinctly human concept. It should not be used outside of the human context. Luckily, I do not believe that is contentious. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 19:03, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
In your page on the Albatross you state that,the extraordinary flight duration is achieved by, "dynamic soaring and slope soaring", I would like to suggest another phenomenon the bird probably benefits from: high pressure air. This can be easily demonstrated by a simple experiment ; partly fill a basin with water , with enough room and access to allow manual agitation while covering most of it with thin polystyrene,e.g. 3mm "Depron".When the water is made to form crests the poly cover rises immediately. The sea bird has only to stay over the rising crests of swells ( probably on the forward edge/slope) as they move through the water, to be always in rising , high pressure,air.Gliding does the rest. Slope soaring" ,as in your article, is only possible when a steady wind is rising up the slope.Swells move with the wind (and due to the wind) so there may not be an opposing wind.the swell is moving with the wind. Cold air in high latitudes is much more dense and supporting than warm air ' perhaps 20% more . The seas in those latitudes generally have stronger and more continuous swells. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB19:874A:9F00:2CAA:881E:1E62:A2D7 ( talk) 21:41, 30 November 2019 (UTC)