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Adrian Albert looks legitimately notable, but the article is so poorly written and technical it.s really hard to tell. Note also the creator is a strongly suspected sockpuppet. Circeus 16:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
WP:LGBT has started a drive to cross-reference our LGBT lists with all the people categorised as LGBT on Wikipedia with reliable sources. We have a list of the great unlisted here, and we'd quite like your help! Just committing to adding one person a day to our lists would be great. Please help us out if you can. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 17:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm looking for some members to work on a task force for WikiProject Munich which would be all about biographies related to people born in Munich Kingjeff 05:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Let me carefully explain:
If you're wondering why I'm going on about this, it's because the 11-step section uses this term incorrectly, and links to an article that describes inter-wiki links, when you're talking about intra-wiki links.
My suggestion would be to link intra-wiki links (which doesn't have a page) to the appropriate part of the manual.
-- TimNelson 12:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
We have two new workgroups, Wikipedia:WikiProject Peerage and Wikipedia:WikiProject Baronetcies. Baronetcies is a child project of Peerage which is a child project of Biography.
I've updated our template with two new parameters to support these workgroups:
(with some tweaks to follow). I've also written a script to create assessment categories, which I used to set their categories up. I'll also be adding code to support the new params to my plugin, and doing a bot run.
So... since that's a lot of work, I'd be grateful if somebody else (who know's what they're doing) could:
Thanks. -- kingboyk 23:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
We still have a list of people categorized as LGBT whose articles need to be checked for reliable sourcing. We've done 128 so far, and could do with more help! This effort is necessary and urgent, to comply with Wikipedia's policy on living persons. Please take a few moments to source one article; if you've got time, do another. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
There's an issue on this page over a DUI incident and whether it is given undue weight in the article and even if it should be included at all. Can someone provide their input. Mahanga Talk 23:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
User:Tim riley, I and others have put together a rather thoroughly researched article on Sir Malcolm Sargent. Both Tim and I are somewhat technologically challenged, but the text is all there. I suspect it would be easy to get this article up to GA or even FA status if anyone wants to help with images, etc. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers has been established out of council consensus. Please help setting up the film section to the biography template and project components, - reorded Arts and Entertainment etc. Thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 16:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I am editing a biography article, Amir-Abbas Fakhravar and I have two questions.
Cheers, -- Rayis 17:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I am trying to find out the date of death for this very little known person, if any body on this task force can help i would appreciate it. Thanks. Article is Ian MacAlister Stewart. Tristan benedict 20:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
There is a problem at the Daniel Dumile page. Some users want to add several links that, although relevant, deserve to be on their respective pages (Namely links relating to Madvillian, DANGERDOOM, and Daniel Dumile discography). I have argued that yes, I do know they are related to the subject matter, but I have also argued they belong on their pages. The external links section on the Daniel Dumile article is becoming a farm. Also, what is the consensus on using commercial websites, such as MySpace.com, in the external links section? CanbekEsen 19:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
James I of England has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Duran Duran has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 16:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Have a look at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 April 5#Category:Animal births by year. Some people seem to still think that merging animal birth and death year categories into the human ones is no big deal. I've pointed out that WP:BIO might have different views. Carcharoth 17:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
It needs major work: as it has a massive trivia section, and a lot of cluttered unformatted (and in some cases at least: unsourced). I've done some work on it, but it has a while to go. Someday I would like it to be a featured article: as Kid Rock is a great musician that deserves a decent article. RobJ1981 00:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Two users are persisting on adding a "death date and age template" to the FA Nick Drake; which only adds, as far as I can see, the goulish words -died at 26- to the infobox. I've reverted them a few times over the last few weeks, and have engaged in a circular argument on talk. Whats going on here, do I have to submit to this -in my openion- low value template? Ceoil 22:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Please forgive me if I'm being dense, but I don't see the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard linked or mentioned on the project page or here on its talk page. Is it here somewhere and I'm just not seeing it? If it isn't, is there a particular reason for that? — Athænara ✉ 03:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Stuff like this is just a little annoying. I've had this a few times now, where an article has been tagged with "infobox required", when birthdates - like here - and death-dates of the person in question are completely unknown, and, in the Millico case, your typical infobox would go on for longer in the viewing window than the actual article does. Is there a way of avoiding this? Cheers, Moreschi Want some help? Ask! 13:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I just proposed the following wikiproject Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Recently Deceased Biographies to help those articles about recently deseased people attain the highest quality. Let me know if anyone is interested in this. Remember 14:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I have made a proposal on the page Talk:Bob Dylan to remove Bob Dylan from Category:Converts to Christianity. Please go there to discuss. -- Metzenberg 20:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Initial post, from Kleinzach, moved by Kingboyk, from prior section to new section here
end of initial post which had been moved to this new section
Beginning of response from Kingboyk after moving the above post:
I think from the following post to my talk page you're talking about project banners, not infoboxes. Either way, you've certainly got me confused.
end of cross post from my talk page. -- kingboyk 14:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Continuation of response from Kingboyk after moving Kleinzach's initial post:
Restructuring of order of entries, and some indenting, without change of content, for the sake of clarity in following the flow of the above discussion, done by Lini 10:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I've come across some articles that use templates for the standardization of putting native spellings of peoples' names in the opening sentence of the Bio. For example, Satoru Iwata uses {{ nihongo}}, which automatically formats the various ways the name is displayed. Is there a centralized location to find information about doing this correctly, as well as somewhere to find further appropriate templates for other languages? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 15:53, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
There was a discussion a couple weeks back about adding the "nested" option to {{ WPBiography}}. At that time, the need to pull the BLP banner out of the template was (rightly) expressed. I've had another go at working the {{ WikiProjectBannerShell}} and would like y'all to take a look: Wikipedia talk:Sandbox/blp1. Let me know if there are any questions or concerns. If it meets with the project's approval, I can make the changes to WPBS and would like y'all to make changes to WPBiography. Thanks! -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 19:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
What happened to the core project? I posted a note at the talk page with no response yet. Carcharoth 14:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
The relationship between the Biography Wikiproject and the Opera and Composers Wikiprojects need not be seen as an adversarial one. All three of these are active, vital, well-thought-out projects, with clear scope. I have a high degree of respect for each of them.
Please understand that the intention of WPBio is not, at the "metaproject" level, to support every one of the hundreds of thousands of biography articles, nor to dictate style of every biography article. My understanding is that the intention is for WPBio to be broken out into work groups that would be able to focus in on reasonably-sized subsets of related biography articles. There currently exists an Arts and entertainment workgroup, with child workgroups Actors and Filmmakers, and Musicians.
I think that both WPBio and WPComposers / WPOpera would benefit by the establishment of a Composers and/or Opera working group associated with WPBio (consisting of current members of WPComposers and/or WPOpera). The valuable work that has been done at WPOpera, for example, in developing "an editorial style and rules for writing pan-European articles on artists and creators" (to quote user Kleinzach, as he captures the essence better than I could in my own words :), could serve as a model for other Biography working groups.
The association with WPBio as a working group would facilitate bringing WPComposers and WPOpera members into centralized discussions regarding issues such as the usage of InfoBoxes, Project Banners, and bots to automate the tagging of articles. The Biography metaproject is a valuable forum and agent for addressing issues of quality and protocol that are common, across the board, to all biography articles, such as the use of the "Biography of Living People" template.
Each of the projects, WPBio, WPComposers, and WPOpera have the same objectives: improved quality of articles, collaboration of editors with similar interests, and development of guidelines to address the unique issues that arise with different subsets of articles. I'd be excited to see an association that would work together toward the mutual goals. -- Lini 11:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
If I may. Rather than discussing whether to work together, which is getting a bit adversarial, just try working together. You might be pleasantly surprised. Join each other's projects, read up on things, contribute to discussions. Don't argue, but try and come up with productive suggestions. I too have been dismayed sometimes to see colonisation of an article talk page by banners from many wikiprojects, many of whom will take forever to actually do anything (if at all), but in this case WP:BIO is clearly just tagging biographical articles. The actual editing can, with a clear conscience, be left to the Composers and Opera projects. They are producing good stuff. Carcharoth 12:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Because articles of recently deceased people often attract attention, it may help if such articles are marked. Inspired by the concept of Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Recently Deceased Biographies, I suggest creation of a template for marking articles about recently deceased people. The template probably should require a parameter for the date of editing. The date of addition of a death report should be used, not the date of death. The template should be removed after a specified period of time. ( SEWilco 04:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC))
Howdy folks, we put the spotlight on the stub John Gow. Its now a fully fledged article. You guys can check out our changes at this link. If you want to join our efforts, just hop into #wikipedia-spotlight on the irc.freenode.net network. If you need any help with this just ask me. —— Eagle101 Need help? 00:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I was in the process of adding the name David Sutton to the list of recepients of the Benson Medal, and I noticed that the current article under that name is referenced in several articles, few if any of which refer to the same man. Had I more time, I could have cleaned this up in the usual way. In lieu of such work, I resorted to the following clumsy preface:
It would have beeen convenient (and more graceful) to be able to mark a biography as needing disambiguation via a standard cleanup template. 68.165.77.189 23:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC).
A new editor has come to ask me about a biography he wrote which has been deleted. The article was, honestly, quite bad, although I imagine the subject might just pass on notability if he were written about "properly". I've tried to help him as best I can, but I was a bit troubled to discover that we don't have an article on "how to write a good biography" (or that, if we have one, it's not easily found). I'd like to help this new editor as best I can, but short of writing the bio myself the best thing is to send him to a clear and concise guide. So, if we have one, could somebody please direct me to it; if we don't have one, is anybody interested in making a start? -- kingboyk 18:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
On the project page that goes with this talk page, there are the "WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article" - I'm not sure if this is the kind of thing you were talking about? -- Lini 19:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
In anticipation of setting up a review department for A-class articles, I have been reassessing current A-class articles for some time now. Look here and here for plans, proposed criteria, and a large list of downgraded A-class articles. Er rab ee 10:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Uma Thurman has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 19:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Lindsay Lohan has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 19:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
There is some interest in starting an Opera work-group. The scope would be opera-related biography articles (including composers, directors, librettists, managers, singers, etc.) At least one other editor and myself are willing to represent the working group; there is also a very active Opera project that would be able to utilize the Opera working-group category listings, to facilitate the efforts they are already making toward the quality of biography articles falling under the scope of WPOpera. What would need to be done next to get the work-group started? Thanks, Lini 10:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
A number of biography-related infoboxes now produce an hCard microformat. Please feel free to add the necessary mark-up to more. (Cheifly, that's class="vcard" on the whole infobox and "class="fn" on the pagename or name field.) Note that the date of birth is only included if {{ Birth date}} or {{ Birth date and age}} is used. Andy Mabbett 17:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
The A-class review department is up and running. All we need now is a couple of dedicated reviewers. Er rab ee 12:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm happy to deliver it with AWB if no-one else wants to? RHB Talk - Edits 21:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I note the main project page still mentions the February assessment drive toward the top of the page. I don't want to fiddle with the subpage because I might screw something up, but it probably should be removed. Also, as a potential follow-up to it, has there ever been any sort of organized effort to try to indicate that any of the articles fall within the scope of the various work groups, and indicate such on the banner? I would think that might be a useful follow-up. John Carter 20:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Step 8 gives the "ONLY" two choices. There is a third - to write an article for the red link. Tyrenius 07:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
There are over 16,000 articles on living people on Wikipedia that do not cite all of their sources; see User:Messedrocker/Unreferenced BLPs. — Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 16:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | ← | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | → | Archive 15 |
Adrian Albert looks legitimately notable, but the article is so poorly written and technical it.s really hard to tell. Note also the creator is a strongly suspected sockpuppet. Circeus 16:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
WP:LGBT has started a drive to cross-reference our LGBT lists with all the people categorised as LGBT on Wikipedia with reliable sources. We have a list of the great unlisted here, and we'd quite like your help! Just committing to adding one person a day to our lists would be great. Please help us out if you can. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 17:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm looking for some members to work on a task force for WikiProject Munich which would be all about biographies related to people born in Munich Kingjeff 05:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Let me carefully explain:
If you're wondering why I'm going on about this, it's because the 11-step section uses this term incorrectly, and links to an article that describes inter-wiki links, when you're talking about intra-wiki links.
My suggestion would be to link intra-wiki links (which doesn't have a page) to the appropriate part of the manual.
-- TimNelson 12:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
We have two new workgroups, Wikipedia:WikiProject Peerage and Wikipedia:WikiProject Baronetcies. Baronetcies is a child project of Peerage which is a child project of Biography.
I've updated our template with two new parameters to support these workgroups:
(with some tweaks to follow). I've also written a script to create assessment categories, which I used to set their categories up. I'll also be adding code to support the new params to my plugin, and doing a bot run.
So... since that's a lot of work, I'd be grateful if somebody else (who know's what they're doing) could:
Thanks. -- kingboyk 23:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
We still have a list of people categorized as LGBT whose articles need to be checked for reliable sourcing. We've done 128 so far, and could do with more help! This effort is necessary and urgent, to comply with Wikipedia's policy on living persons. Please take a few moments to source one article; if you've got time, do another. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
There's an issue on this page over a DUI incident and whether it is given undue weight in the article and even if it should be included at all. Can someone provide their input. Mahanga Talk 23:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
User:Tim riley, I and others have put together a rather thoroughly researched article on Sir Malcolm Sargent. Both Tim and I are somewhat technologically challenged, but the text is all there. I suspect it would be easy to get this article up to GA or even FA status if anyone wants to help with images, etc. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers has been established out of council consensus. Please help setting up the film section to the biography template and project components, - reorded Arts and Entertainment etc. Thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 16:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I am editing a biography article, Amir-Abbas Fakhravar and I have two questions.
Cheers, -- Rayis 17:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I am trying to find out the date of death for this very little known person, if any body on this task force can help i would appreciate it. Thanks. Article is Ian MacAlister Stewart. Tristan benedict 20:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
There is a problem at the Daniel Dumile page. Some users want to add several links that, although relevant, deserve to be on their respective pages (Namely links relating to Madvillian, DANGERDOOM, and Daniel Dumile discography). I have argued that yes, I do know they are related to the subject matter, but I have also argued they belong on their pages. The external links section on the Daniel Dumile article is becoming a farm. Also, what is the consensus on using commercial websites, such as MySpace.com, in the external links section? CanbekEsen 19:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
James I of England has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Duran Duran has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 16:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Have a look at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 April 5#Category:Animal births by year. Some people seem to still think that merging animal birth and death year categories into the human ones is no big deal. I've pointed out that WP:BIO might have different views. Carcharoth 17:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
It needs major work: as it has a massive trivia section, and a lot of cluttered unformatted (and in some cases at least: unsourced). I've done some work on it, but it has a while to go. Someday I would like it to be a featured article: as Kid Rock is a great musician that deserves a decent article. RobJ1981 00:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Two users are persisting on adding a "death date and age template" to the FA Nick Drake; which only adds, as far as I can see, the goulish words -died at 26- to the infobox. I've reverted them a few times over the last few weeks, and have engaged in a circular argument on talk. Whats going on here, do I have to submit to this -in my openion- low value template? Ceoil 22:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Please forgive me if I'm being dense, but I don't see the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard linked or mentioned on the project page or here on its talk page. Is it here somewhere and I'm just not seeing it? If it isn't, is there a particular reason for that? — Athænara ✉ 03:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Stuff like this is just a little annoying. I've had this a few times now, where an article has been tagged with "infobox required", when birthdates - like here - and death-dates of the person in question are completely unknown, and, in the Millico case, your typical infobox would go on for longer in the viewing window than the actual article does. Is there a way of avoiding this? Cheers, Moreschi Want some help? Ask! 13:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I just proposed the following wikiproject Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Recently Deceased Biographies to help those articles about recently deseased people attain the highest quality. Let me know if anyone is interested in this. Remember 14:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I have made a proposal on the page Talk:Bob Dylan to remove Bob Dylan from Category:Converts to Christianity. Please go there to discuss. -- Metzenberg 20:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Initial post, from Kleinzach, moved by Kingboyk, from prior section to new section here
end of initial post which had been moved to this new section
Beginning of response from Kingboyk after moving the above post:
I think from the following post to my talk page you're talking about project banners, not infoboxes. Either way, you've certainly got me confused.
end of cross post from my talk page. -- kingboyk 14:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Continuation of response from Kingboyk after moving Kleinzach's initial post:
Restructuring of order of entries, and some indenting, without change of content, for the sake of clarity in following the flow of the above discussion, done by Lini 10:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I've come across some articles that use templates for the standardization of putting native spellings of peoples' names in the opening sentence of the Bio. For example, Satoru Iwata uses {{ nihongo}}, which automatically formats the various ways the name is displayed. Is there a centralized location to find information about doing this correctly, as well as somewhere to find further appropriate templates for other languages? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 15:53, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
There was a discussion a couple weeks back about adding the "nested" option to {{ WPBiography}}. At that time, the need to pull the BLP banner out of the template was (rightly) expressed. I've had another go at working the {{ WikiProjectBannerShell}} and would like y'all to take a look: Wikipedia talk:Sandbox/blp1. Let me know if there are any questions or concerns. If it meets with the project's approval, I can make the changes to WPBS and would like y'all to make changes to WPBiography. Thanks! -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 19:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
What happened to the core project? I posted a note at the talk page with no response yet. Carcharoth 14:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
The relationship between the Biography Wikiproject and the Opera and Composers Wikiprojects need not be seen as an adversarial one. All three of these are active, vital, well-thought-out projects, with clear scope. I have a high degree of respect for each of them.
Please understand that the intention of WPBio is not, at the "metaproject" level, to support every one of the hundreds of thousands of biography articles, nor to dictate style of every biography article. My understanding is that the intention is for WPBio to be broken out into work groups that would be able to focus in on reasonably-sized subsets of related biography articles. There currently exists an Arts and entertainment workgroup, with child workgroups Actors and Filmmakers, and Musicians.
I think that both WPBio and WPComposers / WPOpera would benefit by the establishment of a Composers and/or Opera working group associated with WPBio (consisting of current members of WPComposers and/or WPOpera). The valuable work that has been done at WPOpera, for example, in developing "an editorial style and rules for writing pan-European articles on artists and creators" (to quote user Kleinzach, as he captures the essence better than I could in my own words :), could serve as a model for other Biography working groups.
The association with WPBio as a working group would facilitate bringing WPComposers and WPOpera members into centralized discussions regarding issues such as the usage of InfoBoxes, Project Banners, and bots to automate the tagging of articles. The Biography metaproject is a valuable forum and agent for addressing issues of quality and protocol that are common, across the board, to all biography articles, such as the use of the "Biography of Living People" template.
Each of the projects, WPBio, WPComposers, and WPOpera have the same objectives: improved quality of articles, collaboration of editors with similar interests, and development of guidelines to address the unique issues that arise with different subsets of articles. I'd be excited to see an association that would work together toward the mutual goals. -- Lini 11:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
If I may. Rather than discussing whether to work together, which is getting a bit adversarial, just try working together. You might be pleasantly surprised. Join each other's projects, read up on things, contribute to discussions. Don't argue, but try and come up with productive suggestions. I too have been dismayed sometimes to see colonisation of an article talk page by banners from many wikiprojects, many of whom will take forever to actually do anything (if at all), but in this case WP:BIO is clearly just tagging biographical articles. The actual editing can, with a clear conscience, be left to the Composers and Opera projects. They are producing good stuff. Carcharoth 12:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Because articles of recently deceased people often attract attention, it may help if such articles are marked. Inspired by the concept of Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Recently Deceased Biographies, I suggest creation of a template for marking articles about recently deceased people. The template probably should require a parameter for the date of editing. The date of addition of a death report should be used, not the date of death. The template should be removed after a specified period of time. ( SEWilco 04:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC))
Howdy folks, we put the spotlight on the stub John Gow. Its now a fully fledged article. You guys can check out our changes at this link. If you want to join our efforts, just hop into #wikipedia-spotlight on the irc.freenode.net network. If you need any help with this just ask me. —— Eagle101 Need help? 00:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I was in the process of adding the name David Sutton to the list of recepients of the Benson Medal, and I noticed that the current article under that name is referenced in several articles, few if any of which refer to the same man. Had I more time, I could have cleaned this up in the usual way. In lieu of such work, I resorted to the following clumsy preface:
It would have beeen convenient (and more graceful) to be able to mark a biography as needing disambiguation via a standard cleanup template. 68.165.77.189 23:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC).
A new editor has come to ask me about a biography he wrote which has been deleted. The article was, honestly, quite bad, although I imagine the subject might just pass on notability if he were written about "properly". I've tried to help him as best I can, but I was a bit troubled to discover that we don't have an article on "how to write a good biography" (or that, if we have one, it's not easily found). I'd like to help this new editor as best I can, but short of writing the bio myself the best thing is to send him to a clear and concise guide. So, if we have one, could somebody please direct me to it; if we don't have one, is anybody interested in making a start? -- kingboyk 18:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
On the project page that goes with this talk page, there are the "WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article" - I'm not sure if this is the kind of thing you were talking about? -- Lini 19:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
In anticipation of setting up a review department for A-class articles, I have been reassessing current A-class articles for some time now. Look here and here for plans, proposed criteria, and a large list of downgraded A-class articles. Er rab ee 10:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Uma Thurman has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 19:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Lindsay Lohan has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 19:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
There is some interest in starting an Opera work-group. The scope would be opera-related biography articles (including composers, directors, librettists, managers, singers, etc.) At least one other editor and myself are willing to represent the working group; there is also a very active Opera project that would be able to utilize the Opera working-group category listings, to facilitate the efforts they are already making toward the quality of biography articles falling under the scope of WPOpera. What would need to be done next to get the work-group started? Thanks, Lini 10:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
A number of biography-related infoboxes now produce an hCard microformat. Please feel free to add the necessary mark-up to more. (Cheifly, that's class="vcard" on the whole infobox and "class="fn" on the pagename or name field.) Note that the date of birth is only included if {{ Birth date}} or {{ Birth date and age}} is used. Andy Mabbett 17:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
The A-class review department is up and running. All we need now is a couple of dedicated reviewers. Er rab ee 12:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm happy to deliver it with AWB if no-one else wants to? RHB Talk - Edits 21:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I note the main project page still mentions the February assessment drive toward the top of the page. I don't want to fiddle with the subpage because I might screw something up, but it probably should be removed. Also, as a potential follow-up to it, has there ever been any sort of organized effort to try to indicate that any of the articles fall within the scope of the various work groups, and indicate such on the banner? I would think that might be a useful follow-up. John Carter 20:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Step 8 gives the "ONLY" two choices. There is a third - to write an article for the red link. Tyrenius 07:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
There are over 16,000 articles on living people on Wikipedia that do not cite all of their sources; see User:Messedrocker/Unreferenced BLPs. — Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 16:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)