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Template:Infobox MLB player and Template:Infobox baseball biography were determined to be merged in a MfD that closed in late-February. We should get on this. Who wants to volunteer? – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:09, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Is there a consensus on what statistics can be included in the MLB Player infobox? I have sometimes come across infoboxes with stats such as OPS, doubles and walks. I am curious to know if there has been a discussion on this somewhere. - Hoops gza ( talk) 18:22, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks to this issue's contributors, and to everyone for their work on baseball-related articles!
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There are apparently 19 6-hit games that have occurred in extra inning American League games. Since the record is 9, it is hard to find those with 6, 7 or 8. Does anyone know a source that I could use for the newly created List of Major League Baseball hitters with six hits in one game?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:00, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
I will help you with this. - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Based on discussion above at #What should be in a season article?, do we want to remove tables like the one at 2014_Chicago_White_Sox_season#Detailed_records_and_runs_scored.2Fallowed, which break down the home and away record and run scored and allowed against each respective opponent. I see that it was removed on Sept 28 only to be added back on Sept 29. I think they are excessive.— Bagumba ( talk) 07:21, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Feel free to join the discussion regarding the main image at Talk:Orel_Hershiser#Main_image if you are interested.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Is there a list of WP:BASEBALL articles that need images? I go to a fair number of games and player appearances. Sometimes I end up with seats near one of the dugouts, making for good photo opportunities even though I'm not that great at it. Before games I go to each team's WP page and use the roster templates to see which entries have missing/poor images. That can be tedious though. Is there an easier way to discern the active players or personnel that need images? The Hershiser thread above made me think about this. EricEnfermero HOWDY! 22:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Are there people who might be able to help me identify players on the Los Angeles Dodgers September 19 roster and coaches. I have pictures of a lot of people dressed like coaches that need to be identified.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:54, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
This is sort of a minefield, I know, especially since as so often in Wiki you can find a lot of stuff in print and thus assert it as WP:RS. But the fact is, far too many articles all over the baseball section fall into the habit of using completely unofficial sportswriter epithets like "Chicago Orphans" or "Brooklyn Bridegrooms" in a manner indistinguishable from actual team names, perpetuating misconceptions inherited from erroneous or sloppy print sources. The fact is that although some teams adopted formal names well back in the 19th century, mostly ball clubs in cities with several of them like the early New York Knickerbocker, Gotham and Metropolitan Clubs, most teams did not have a name until the 1900s or 1910s (or even later, in the case of the Dodgers). The Brooklyn club was only the "Bridegrooms" or "Superbas" or "Robins" in the same sense as that in which in a later era they were the "Bums," or the Yankees the "Bronx Bombers." I think there ought to be a usage/format guideline here, even if it's simply the use of quotation marks for unofficial nicknames (e.g. Chicago "Orphans"). Solicitr ( talk) 23:19, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
You are invited to help form a consensus at Talk:Setup pitcher#Notable setup pitchers about whether a list of setup pitchers should be in the article.— Bagumba ( talk) 07:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
I have another project that could be worth tackling. As we all know, a big problem is players who just never get picked up, and their articles are perpetually listed as free agents. Before the wave of 2014 free agents comes roaring through, we should try updating articles of players who are no longer active. A decent list is here. Yes, some of those are clearly free agents, but others we can safely say are not playing anymore. If you're borderline on one, just go ahead and update; on the off chance a player returns it'll always be quickly updated, it's the opposite side that falls through. Wizardman 16:57, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I was curious to see what the consensus was to possibly add w,x,y and z to the seed code? Would make understanding which team clinched what leading into the playoffs and then add a legend on the bottom of the template explaining:
w - clinched wild card
x - clinched playoff berth
y - clinched division
z - clinched division and best record in league
Would this be favorable? –
B2Project
(Talk)
12:51, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#VG comments subpages regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Baseball articles that would be affected by this action are these:
If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Baseball's use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. - Thibbs ( talk) 15:54, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
A recent requested page move of O.co Coliseum to Oakland Coliseum, which invokes WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMINGCRITERIA concerns, may be of possible interest to participants of this WikiProject. Please discuss at Talk:O.co Coliseum#Requested move 2. Thank you. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 04:50, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
MLB handed out the first Trevor Hoffman and Mariano Rivera awards yesterday. The press release says "The new Awards replace MLB's 'Delivery Man of the Year Award,' which was presented to one winner in all of Major League Baseball from 2005-2013, and continue a longstanding baseball tradition of honoring the game's top relief pitchers." [3] Based on the last discussion in April, a short blurb was written at the old Major League Baseball Delivery Man Award, which was redirected to Major League Baseball Reliever of the Year Award. At the time, consensus was to not create a standalone article for an award that was not issued yet, and there was no consensus whether it would need a new article if the award was potentially a rebrand of the Delivery Man award. Since the PR said it was replacing the old award, I propose a new standalone article.— Bagumba ( talk) 19:24, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
You are invited to take part in a discussion about this category at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 October 24#Sport players from Louisville, Kentucky. Rikster2 ( talk) 13:37, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I have now twice reverted the infobox inclusion of Major League Baseball Comeback Player of the Year Award in Chris Young (pitcher)'s article. I just want to make sure I am not confused. I think he has won the The Sporting News Comeback Player of the Year Award, which is a different award. The MLB awards will be named in November, as I understand it.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:25, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
This photo ( File:Wes Ferrell-1937.jpg) is extremely useful, but currently being categorized as fair use. It is unknown who holds the copyright, if there is one held at all. I cannot find a suitable copy anywhere. This photo appears to have been posted on baseballlibrary.com, but the site may be down, so I cannot ask them where they got the picture. As much as it pains me to say, but if the tag cannot be resolved, the photo will probably need to be deleted. Neonblak talk - 18:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
This page could use work, not only with adding more entries, but also with incoming wikilinks. Possibly a new name as well. – Muboshgu ( talk) 15:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
I added a couple nominations to the Article Improvement Drive page - Jesse Winters and Dooley Womack. Alex ( talk) 09:02, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
What's in the latest edition of WikiProject Baseball's newsletter:
Thanks to everyone for their contributions, and to all editors for their work with baseball-related articles. It's been a pretty interesting post-season, and already some fresh intrigue has arisen, with Epstein signing Maddon. Will the Cubs finally break through? In the meantime, with the excitement of the playoffs over, here's your chance to restart your pet projects, and polish up some articles. Happy writing, and if you are interested in contributing to the newsletter, don't forget to watchlist the newsletter desk and join in the conversation! isaacl ( talk) 03:32, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Now that the season has finished, it has been announced that the two Japanese players most likely to move this off season are Takashi Toritani and Chihiro Kaneko. Looking at their articles, Toritani stops in 2009 and Kaneko is less than a stub. I will do my best to update them as best I can. But once the bidding process starts I assume their pages will get some traffic, so it would be nice if they can be expanded as much as possible. There is a wealth of information in Japanese text of course, so maybe not many people can do it, but I'll give it a go and would appreciate anyone pointing out my mistakes. AtHomeIn神戸 ( talk) 13:57, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on the notability of rumours of a team being established in a new city; in the case of this discussion, Montreal. Any feedback is welcome. isaacl ( talk) 22:30, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
There is a template, Template:Bullpen, that leaves a note in articles that text has been borrowed from baseball-reference's Bullpen. As Bullpen is itself another wiki, which seemingly anyone can edit, why would a Wikipedia article use it as a source, when we don't even allow Wikipedia to be used as a source?— Bagumba ( talk) 22:29, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
I stumbled on something that could be a significant problem (or maybe I'm making it a bigger deal then it is). Recently, CNN and Sports Illustrated split ties, so any sportsillustrated.cnn.com links just redirect to a Bleacher Report note rather than the article (or even the SI home page). As a result every one of those links is broken, and not only that, but the new links have completely different syntax, so I can't bother a bot with a simple fix. So what am i asking us to do? Well, if you've used SI in your articles in the past, can you replace those links with the updated ones? I'm doing a sweep of my own articles and finding a lot, and given that SI's vault in particular contains a lot of info, I'm sure you all have at last one article that will need fixing now. Wizardman 00:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Just thought i'd let people know that there's a bunch of AFD's on baseball players that are currently ongoing. Would be nice to add more people to the discussions.-- Yankees10 23:12, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Anyone have any opinion on if this series is a significant enough event that we should have an article on it? None currently exists but there seems to be enough sources to establish notability, it's certainly a big event in Japan. Spanneraol ( talk) 02:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
The season is over, and I finally caught up getting the season notes finished and importing stats. I have started to hack a little bit at the preseason section, and at this point, am ready for another set of eyes to do some copyediting in the season notes, and suggest what else could be pared/cut. Even if you just can take a look at one section, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Go Phightins ! 19:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
People may want to comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Former Milwaukee Brewers minor league players.. Do we want these types of articles? Spanneraol ( talk) 14:52, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Hey guys, being that its the offseason and all... is anyone interested in a project to bring all the all-time roster pages up to date? I know i've kept the Dodgers page updated but many of the other teams havent been updated, some of them for several seasons... and the overall List of Major League Baseball players probably needs updating too. If we split up the list it probably wouldn't be as tough an obstacle as it looks at first glance. Any takers? Spanneraol ( talk) 22:10, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
I would like a second opinion on whether these edits to Barry Bonds were WP:POV.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:32, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Should the generic term "major league" (without "Baseball" at the end) be capitalized or not when referring to MLB? In my opinion, it's a general term that should be lower cased. However, a user who disagrees keeps badgering me about it, so I'd like to settle it here once and for all. — Bloom6132 ( talk) 23:01, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
There has been no "badgering" about this, but rather a disagreement. It happens on Wikipedia. So, is there a consensus at this point? I ask because my changes are being reverted by the OP. I recognize there are cases when this is murky, but it would seem if we're referring to the modern MLB, then "Major League" makes sense. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 22:25, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
For anyone who might have been anticipating the next newsletter: we have delayed the November edition and plan to combine it with the December edition, currently scheduled to be released on December 14, just after the winter meetings. If you are interested in contributing, please see the "Post 2014 winter meetings edition" thread at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Outreach/Newsletter desk discussion page, and please put the page on your watchlist in order to be kept aware of the newsletter's status. Thanks! isaacl ( talk) 01:43, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
The style advice for baseball player articles was updated recently regarding stats to include in a player infobox. Although it's not something that was discussed recently on this discussion page, I believe it is probably a fair assessment of general consensus. If anyone would like to establish consensus for a different guideline, please feel free to discuss further in this thread. isaacl ( talk) 02:31, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Regarding this modification to the player article style advice: the previous guidance had the sections "Early life", "Career", and "Personal life" in that order as it was based on how most biographical articles cover the subject's life in chronological order first, and then proceed with sections discussing various themes about the subject. Accordingly, I suggest that the "Personal life" section should be restored to follow the "Career" section, and that "Player profile" follow the "Legacy" section. (I'm a bit wary of the "Player profile" section, but I'd like to first discuss the ordering before discussing player profiles.) isaacl ( talk) 05:23, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on using "full house" to mean "full count". Comments are welcome. isaacl ( talk) 15:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
I would like to propose adding managerial records to the manager articles.
Here is an example of the type of table that I'm proposing.
Team | From | To | Regular season record | Post–season record | Ref. | ||||
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W | L | Win % | W | L | Win % | ||||
Cincinnati Reds | 1970 | 1978 | 863 | 586 | .596 | 26 | 16 | .619 | |
Detroit Tigers | 1979 | 1995 | 1331 | 1248 | .516 | 8 | 5 | .615 | |
Total | 2194 | 1834 | .545 | 34 | 21 | .618 | — |
If a manager has managed a team more than once, it would look more like this.
Team | From | To | Regular season record | Post–season record | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
W | L | Win % | W | L | Win % | |||
Minnesota Twins | 1969 | 1969 | 97 | 65 | .599 | 0 | 3 | .000 |
Detroit Tigers | 1971 | 1973 | 248 | 204 | .549 | 2 | 3 | .400 |
Texas Rangers | 1973 | 1975 | 137 | 141 | .493 | 0 | 0 | – |
New York Yankees | 1975 | 1978 | 279 | 192 | .592 | 10 | 10 | .500 |
New York Yankees | 1979 | 1979 | 55 | 40 | .579 | 0 | 0 | – |
Oakland Athletics | 1980 | 1982 | 215 | 218 | .497 | 3 | 3 | .500 |
New York Yankees | 1983 | 1983 | 91 | 71 | .562 | 0 | 0 | – |
New York Yankees | 1985 | 1985 | 91 | 54 | .628 | 0 | 0 | – |
New York Yankees | 1988 | 1988 | 40 | 28 | .588 | 0 | 0 | – |
Total | 1253 | 1013 | .553 | 15 | 19 | .441 | ||
Reference: |
It's smaller and more tidy than the season–by–season managerial record tables that have appeared in the past. Unlike the season–by–season managerial record tables, it clearly isn't an excessive listings of statistics and, with the addition of references in the table, it can reference the managerial record in the manager'sinfobox without cluttering the infobox with references. Kingjeff ( talk) 03:36, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
I dont know much about Korean baseball, and find the rules for categories confusing at times, but this is for those of you who are interested. Is this redirecting of team player categories the norm (I assume the team moved or changed sponsors)? I ran across this while investigating unrelated edits.— Bagumba ( talk) 06:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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May everyone enjoy a pleasant festive season, with Santa bringing that LOOGY your team has been looking for! Thanks to everyone for their work on baseball-related articles this year. If you'd like to contribute to the newsletter in 2015, please put the newsletter desk on your watchlist, and join in the conversation on its discussion page. Best wishes for 2015! isaacl ( talk) 21:50, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Is there any consensus whether Relief pitcher and Starting pitcher should be listed as a player's position in their bio's infobox, or should the generic Pitcher be used? For example, Sandy Koufax and Lee Smith (baseball) are listed a pitcher, but Clayton Kershaw is shows as a starter and Mariano Rivera, reliever.— Bagumba ( talk) 04:17, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. It looks like there is no consensus on when to use the generic Pitcher vs more specific Relief pitcher or Starting pitcher. Pitcher might be more suitable than the the specific roles when a pitcher was not predominantly used in one role more than the other. However, more specific terms like Closer, Setup pitcher or Ace are discouraged.— Bagumba ( talk) 01:11, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
If anyone isn't watching Kemp, Grandal, Porcello, Miley, Cespedes, Latos, etc., please do so. I've got other work to do, can't keep reverting all day. This is the one time I think I should become an admin, just so I could protect these pages. @ Bagumba:, you around? – Muboshgu ( talk) 16:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks everybody! – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:48, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
That was the most crazy few days of transactions I can remember. Shoutout to
Garchy,
Spanneraol,
Bagumba,
Trut-h-urts man,
Bloom6132, and everyone else who made sense of the deluge! –
Muboshgu (
talk)
13:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
FWIW, a reminder that there is a pre-canned template {{ uw-sportstrans}} to inform editors on their talk page why their edits were removed even though it is in the news. Hopefully we can create a few new, long-term, productive editors in the process.— Bagumba ( talk) 00:21, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
I've seen where some bios have hidden text in the infobox with a player's new team in the team history section. Presumably, it is hidden because the player has not played a game with their new team yet. Irrespective of whether the team should be hidden or not, it seems that any hidden text should provide editors with an explanatory reason and guidance on when the text can be unhidden. Per WP:HIDDEN, "When it is a mere consensus that a certain edit should not be performed, the hidden text should be worded more softly to suggest to the editor to consult the talk page (or archive page if appropriate) for the current consensus prior to making the edit." Seeing editors uncomment a "current" team, only to see it later reverted because a player has not played a game yet, seems like an endless edit war between now and April.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:14, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Hey baseball editors, just letting you all know that McFarland & Company has offered free e-book versions of its titles to experienced Wikipedians. The publisher has a large collection of titles on baseball. See Wikipedia:McFarland for instructions. Best, The Interior (Talk) 05:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Just an FYI to everyone - a couple new/anon users are going around again and capitalizing the colors found in infoboxes. Colors are not proper nouns and should not be capitalized (previously discussed here). Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 04:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
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According to The Catch, Vic Wertz's hit was caught by Willie Mays 420 feet away in center field. According to the Vic Wertz article, it was 450 feet. Could be either, based on the dimensions of the Polo Grounds. I would guess 450, based on the CF distance of 480 and the picture, but it would be better to find a conclusive answer in a reliable source. Any ideas? Ma t c hups 01:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
What's in the latest edition of WikiProject Baseball's newsletter:
Once again, my personal thanks to everyone who helps improve Wikipedia's coverage of baseball-related articles!
The Inside Corner can only be published if you pitch in and help! Regular contributors are welcome, whether it is covering project news or general baseball news, writing blurbs for articles and photos to showcase in the newsletter, sharing fond memories of the sport, soliciting help for your favourite tasks (such as Baseball Mountain), or anything else you can think of. If you are interested, please put the newsletter desk page on your watchlist, and write a quick note on the newsletter desk talk page. isaacl ( talk) 03:02, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
An IP has been making a lot of edits to Blue Jays season articles, for example 1992 Toronto Blue Jays season.. he/she has been adding detailed lists of TV schedules and umpire teams which seems extremely trivial and unnecessary. Does anyone think this is information worth keeping? Spanneraol ( talk) 17:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
You are invited to the discussion at Talk:Ichiro_Suzuki#Position_in_infobox to reach a consensus on which position(s) to list for his infobox.— Bagumba ( talk) 23:13, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Per the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_January_14#Template:Houston_Astros_retired_numbers, it was decided that the retired number templates (i.e., {{ New York Yankees retired numbers}}) should be kept, but the entries of retired numbers should be removed from the main navboxes (i.e., {{ New York Yankees}}), to reduce redundancy and clutter. I will start on this task now, but would appreciate help from others, not only in editing the main team navboxes, but also taking the templates off player pages. – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
On a related note from an earlier discussion about team HOFs, each member of a team's hall of fame probably doesnt belong on the main navbox either. I've moved them out from Template:San Diego Padres into Template:San Diego Padres Hall of Fame. @ Muboshgu: That template for the "best" team is quite bloated with Monument Park members.— Bagumba ( talk) 22:16, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
A move request has been made at Bob Smith (1920s/30s pitcher) on Feb. 5. I support the move, but in looking at list of Bob Smith's, Bobby Smith's, and Robert Smith's at Retrosheet and Baseball-Reference, there are more naming conventions errors when vetted against WP:NC-BASE. I would go ahead with these changes, but there will be one correction will need someone with a little more skill. Neonblak talk - 16:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I have re-opened a discussion on whether or not it is necessary for each player listed in a "list of" article to have a separate citation to the individual player page on the same web site. Any feedback is welcome. isaacl ( talk) 04:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help find sources for the article Rosie Reds, which is related to the team Cincinnati Reds. It does appear to be notable, but I'm having slight trouble finding sources since there are so many fan pages and so on. Anyone want to help out? Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
WP:Baseball members, please review these discussion threads: [7] and [8]. The changes proposed would affect the way we currently format all single-season NFL articles, and ultimately single-season articles for MLB and other major sports teams, too. Your feedback on the relevant talk pages is invited. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 15:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
User:Nyu5765, someone I am not totally familiar with, decided to edit the Major League Baseball Draft pages for a few years, 2010, 2008, and 2009, and decided to add over 100 names to the "Other notable players" for each draft. Essentially, any player that has ever appeared in the major leagues. When I created those sections a while back, I meant for them to cover players who have made notable impact in the Major Leagues. I felt like so many players, which stretched out the page as well, was overkill, so I removed them. However, he just reverted my edits with no explanation. He hasn't made an edit summary ever, and I doubt he is going to respond to my message on his talk page. What do you think we should do? Does everyone agree that many players is overkill? I don't want to start an edit war so I'm leaving the pages as they are for now. Mpejkrm ( talk) 00:42, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I found the 2014 Umpire Media Guide online, with biographical information on all umpires, historical record of who worked what playoff games, and information on baseball rules, stadium-specific ground rules, and more. It's a great resource. Go Phightins ! 20:35, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Template:Infobox NPB season has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox Nippon Professional Baseball season. Given that these infobox templates are of likely interest to members of this WikiProject, you are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 18:46, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Peer review/2014 Philadelphia Phillies season/archive1 Would someone be willing to peer review this for me? I would QPQ if necessary ... Go Phightins ! 18:16, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
{{ Cactus League}} and {{ Grapefruit League}} have been nominated for deletion -- 70.51.200.101 ( talk) 03:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
A proposed change to a cut-off has been proposed here. Anyone is free to weigh in. Thanks, Sportsguy17 ( T • C) 23:00, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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Many thanks to everyone who edits baseball-related articles!
The Inside Corner needs you to contribute articles, project updates, baseball news, and blurbs on showcased articles and pictures. What's next for your favourite team: are they in the playoff hunt, if only for a wild card, or is the best thing you're expecting to see from them is a free bobblehead? What are your pre-season predictions? Who do you think will be the surprise of the season? What milestones are you looking forward to seeing? Excited to see one of the largest Hall of Fame classes get inducted? If you are interested in submitting something, put the newsletter desk on your watchlist, and join in on the discussion page, letting us know what you are planning. Thanks again to everyone for their efforts: it is much appreciated! isaacl ( talk) 04:46, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
The discussion summarized here (which in turn leads to 2 other discussions) may interest some followers of this page.
As I read it, it leads to major league baseball players (like former MVPs Al Rosen and Ernie Banks) being less likely to be considered notable than athletes in other sports, where the # 1 league includes non-English-speaking countries.
Because the notability test of that guideline is "how many non-English Wikipedias have articles on the fellow". -- Epeefleche ( talk) 10:48, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Template:Central Texas Sports and several similar navbox templates have been nominated for deletion. Given that the subjects of these navboxes are within the scope of WikiProject baseball, you are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 14:53, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Can someone help keep an eye on Cody Stanley's blurb at the Cardinals minor league page? An IP is removing factual info about his suspension. I've already reverted a few times, but i'm over the limit.-- Yankees10 23:42, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Accessibility#Accessibility_with_infoboxes that is related to Template:Infobox baseball biography having data inside a header, such as the current placement of the player's number and team.— Bagumba ( talk) 00:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
YahwehSaves has been changing how All-Star games are counted on the Mickey Mantle article, changing his all-star appearances from 20 to 16 based on counting the years where there were two all-star games as one appearance. The last time this was debated, the consensus was against him but he has apparently decided that since a couple of years have gone by he's gonna go ahead and implement these changes anyway. See here for the recent discussion on Mantle's talk page. EricEnfermero and I figured it should be brought here for wider debate on this. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
This is an ongoing issue. See the lead at Nellie Fox. I don't think consensus has changed based on this discussion. EricEnfermero ( Talk) 02:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
For more perspective, how do we handle players selected to one of the midseason official All-Star teams but replaced on the squad for injury, family obligation, etc? Infobox aside, is there any boilerplate prose explanation, or anyone who is comfortable with hir wording? -- P64 ( talk) 17:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
With the continued debate over the infobox display of multiple all-star games in the same year, I can't seem to find any sourced mention of these multiple games occurring, including the reasons behind it and the roster selection process. There's just a brief unsourced mention in the lead. Can someone in the know update MLB All-Star Game with verifiable information. The entire infobox debate threat is TLDR to determine the facts for these games.— Bagumba ( talk) 17:49, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox MLB player and Template:Infobox baseball biography were determined to be merged in a MfD that closed in late-February. We should get on this. Who wants to volunteer? – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:09, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Is there a consensus on what statistics can be included in the MLB Player infobox? I have sometimes come across infoboxes with stats such as OPS, doubles and walks. I am curious to know if there has been a discussion on this somewhere. - Hoops gza ( talk) 18:22, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
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There are apparently 19 6-hit games that have occurred in extra inning American League games. Since the record is 9, it is hard to find those with 6, 7 or 8. Does anyone know a source that I could use for the newly created List of Major League Baseball hitters with six hits in one game?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:00, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
I will help you with this. - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Based on discussion above at #What should be in a season article?, do we want to remove tables like the one at 2014_Chicago_White_Sox_season#Detailed_records_and_runs_scored.2Fallowed, which break down the home and away record and run scored and allowed against each respective opponent. I see that it was removed on Sept 28 only to be added back on Sept 29. I think they are excessive.— Bagumba ( talk) 07:21, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Feel free to join the discussion regarding the main image at Talk:Orel_Hershiser#Main_image if you are interested.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Is there a list of WP:BASEBALL articles that need images? I go to a fair number of games and player appearances. Sometimes I end up with seats near one of the dugouts, making for good photo opportunities even though I'm not that great at it. Before games I go to each team's WP page and use the roster templates to see which entries have missing/poor images. That can be tedious though. Is there an easier way to discern the active players or personnel that need images? The Hershiser thread above made me think about this. EricEnfermero HOWDY! 22:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Are there people who might be able to help me identify players on the Los Angeles Dodgers September 19 roster and coaches. I have pictures of a lot of people dressed like coaches that need to be identified.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:54, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
This is sort of a minefield, I know, especially since as so often in Wiki you can find a lot of stuff in print and thus assert it as WP:RS. But the fact is, far too many articles all over the baseball section fall into the habit of using completely unofficial sportswriter epithets like "Chicago Orphans" or "Brooklyn Bridegrooms" in a manner indistinguishable from actual team names, perpetuating misconceptions inherited from erroneous or sloppy print sources. The fact is that although some teams adopted formal names well back in the 19th century, mostly ball clubs in cities with several of them like the early New York Knickerbocker, Gotham and Metropolitan Clubs, most teams did not have a name until the 1900s or 1910s (or even later, in the case of the Dodgers). The Brooklyn club was only the "Bridegrooms" or "Superbas" or "Robins" in the same sense as that in which in a later era they were the "Bums," or the Yankees the "Bronx Bombers." I think there ought to be a usage/format guideline here, even if it's simply the use of quotation marks for unofficial nicknames (e.g. Chicago "Orphans"). Solicitr ( talk) 23:19, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
You are invited to help form a consensus at Talk:Setup pitcher#Notable setup pitchers about whether a list of setup pitchers should be in the article.— Bagumba ( talk) 07:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
I have another project that could be worth tackling. As we all know, a big problem is players who just never get picked up, and their articles are perpetually listed as free agents. Before the wave of 2014 free agents comes roaring through, we should try updating articles of players who are no longer active. A decent list is here. Yes, some of those are clearly free agents, but others we can safely say are not playing anymore. If you're borderline on one, just go ahead and update; on the off chance a player returns it'll always be quickly updated, it's the opposite side that falls through. Wizardman 16:57, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I was curious to see what the consensus was to possibly add w,x,y and z to the seed code? Would make understanding which team clinched what leading into the playoffs and then add a legend on the bottom of the template explaining:
w - clinched wild card
x - clinched playoff berth
y - clinched division
z - clinched division and best record in league
Would this be favorable? –
B2Project
(Talk)
12:51, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#VG comments subpages regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Baseball articles that would be affected by this action are these:
If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Baseball's use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. - Thibbs ( talk) 15:54, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
A recent requested page move of O.co Coliseum to Oakland Coliseum, which invokes WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMINGCRITERIA concerns, may be of possible interest to participants of this WikiProject. Please discuss at Talk:O.co Coliseum#Requested move 2. Thank you. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 04:50, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
MLB handed out the first Trevor Hoffman and Mariano Rivera awards yesterday. The press release says "The new Awards replace MLB's 'Delivery Man of the Year Award,' which was presented to one winner in all of Major League Baseball from 2005-2013, and continue a longstanding baseball tradition of honoring the game's top relief pitchers." [3] Based on the last discussion in April, a short blurb was written at the old Major League Baseball Delivery Man Award, which was redirected to Major League Baseball Reliever of the Year Award. At the time, consensus was to not create a standalone article for an award that was not issued yet, and there was no consensus whether it would need a new article if the award was potentially a rebrand of the Delivery Man award. Since the PR said it was replacing the old award, I propose a new standalone article.— Bagumba ( talk) 19:24, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
You are invited to take part in a discussion about this category at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 October 24#Sport players from Louisville, Kentucky. Rikster2 ( talk) 13:37, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I have now twice reverted the infobox inclusion of Major League Baseball Comeback Player of the Year Award in Chris Young (pitcher)'s article. I just want to make sure I am not confused. I think he has won the The Sporting News Comeback Player of the Year Award, which is a different award. The MLB awards will be named in November, as I understand it.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:25, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
This photo ( File:Wes Ferrell-1937.jpg) is extremely useful, but currently being categorized as fair use. It is unknown who holds the copyright, if there is one held at all. I cannot find a suitable copy anywhere. This photo appears to have been posted on baseballlibrary.com, but the site may be down, so I cannot ask them where they got the picture. As much as it pains me to say, but if the tag cannot be resolved, the photo will probably need to be deleted. Neonblak talk - 18:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
This page could use work, not only with adding more entries, but also with incoming wikilinks. Possibly a new name as well. – Muboshgu ( talk) 15:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
I added a couple nominations to the Article Improvement Drive page - Jesse Winters and Dooley Womack. Alex ( talk) 09:02, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
What's in the latest edition of WikiProject Baseball's newsletter:
Thanks to everyone for their contributions, and to all editors for their work with baseball-related articles. It's been a pretty interesting post-season, and already some fresh intrigue has arisen, with Epstein signing Maddon. Will the Cubs finally break through? In the meantime, with the excitement of the playoffs over, here's your chance to restart your pet projects, and polish up some articles. Happy writing, and if you are interested in contributing to the newsletter, don't forget to watchlist the newsletter desk and join in the conversation! isaacl ( talk) 03:32, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Now that the season has finished, it has been announced that the two Japanese players most likely to move this off season are Takashi Toritani and Chihiro Kaneko. Looking at their articles, Toritani stops in 2009 and Kaneko is less than a stub. I will do my best to update them as best I can. But once the bidding process starts I assume their pages will get some traffic, so it would be nice if they can be expanded as much as possible. There is a wealth of information in Japanese text of course, so maybe not many people can do it, but I'll give it a go and would appreciate anyone pointing out my mistakes. AtHomeIn神戸 ( talk) 13:57, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on the notability of rumours of a team being established in a new city; in the case of this discussion, Montreal. Any feedback is welcome. isaacl ( talk) 22:30, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
There is a template, Template:Bullpen, that leaves a note in articles that text has been borrowed from baseball-reference's Bullpen. As Bullpen is itself another wiki, which seemingly anyone can edit, why would a Wikipedia article use it as a source, when we don't even allow Wikipedia to be used as a source?— Bagumba ( talk) 22:29, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
I stumbled on something that could be a significant problem (or maybe I'm making it a bigger deal then it is). Recently, CNN and Sports Illustrated split ties, so any sportsillustrated.cnn.com links just redirect to a Bleacher Report note rather than the article (or even the SI home page). As a result every one of those links is broken, and not only that, but the new links have completely different syntax, so I can't bother a bot with a simple fix. So what am i asking us to do? Well, if you've used SI in your articles in the past, can you replace those links with the updated ones? I'm doing a sweep of my own articles and finding a lot, and given that SI's vault in particular contains a lot of info, I'm sure you all have at last one article that will need fixing now. Wizardman 00:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Just thought i'd let people know that there's a bunch of AFD's on baseball players that are currently ongoing. Would be nice to add more people to the discussions.-- Yankees10 23:12, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Anyone have any opinion on if this series is a significant enough event that we should have an article on it? None currently exists but there seems to be enough sources to establish notability, it's certainly a big event in Japan. Spanneraol ( talk) 02:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
The season is over, and I finally caught up getting the season notes finished and importing stats. I have started to hack a little bit at the preseason section, and at this point, am ready for another set of eyes to do some copyediting in the season notes, and suggest what else could be pared/cut. Even if you just can take a look at one section, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Go Phightins ! 19:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
People may want to comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Former Milwaukee Brewers minor league players.. Do we want these types of articles? Spanneraol ( talk) 14:52, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Hey guys, being that its the offseason and all... is anyone interested in a project to bring all the all-time roster pages up to date? I know i've kept the Dodgers page updated but many of the other teams havent been updated, some of them for several seasons... and the overall List of Major League Baseball players probably needs updating too. If we split up the list it probably wouldn't be as tough an obstacle as it looks at first glance. Any takers? Spanneraol ( talk) 22:10, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
I would like a second opinion on whether these edits to Barry Bonds were WP:POV.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:32, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Should the generic term "major league" (without "Baseball" at the end) be capitalized or not when referring to MLB? In my opinion, it's a general term that should be lower cased. However, a user who disagrees keeps badgering me about it, so I'd like to settle it here once and for all. — Bloom6132 ( talk) 23:01, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
There has been no "badgering" about this, but rather a disagreement. It happens on Wikipedia. So, is there a consensus at this point? I ask because my changes are being reverted by the OP. I recognize there are cases when this is murky, but it would seem if we're referring to the modern MLB, then "Major League" makes sense. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 22:25, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
For anyone who might have been anticipating the next newsletter: we have delayed the November edition and plan to combine it with the December edition, currently scheduled to be released on December 14, just after the winter meetings. If you are interested in contributing, please see the "Post 2014 winter meetings edition" thread at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Outreach/Newsletter desk discussion page, and please put the page on your watchlist in order to be kept aware of the newsletter's status. Thanks! isaacl ( talk) 01:43, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
The style advice for baseball player articles was updated recently regarding stats to include in a player infobox. Although it's not something that was discussed recently on this discussion page, I believe it is probably a fair assessment of general consensus. If anyone would like to establish consensus for a different guideline, please feel free to discuss further in this thread. isaacl ( talk) 02:31, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Regarding this modification to the player article style advice: the previous guidance had the sections "Early life", "Career", and "Personal life" in that order as it was based on how most biographical articles cover the subject's life in chronological order first, and then proceed with sections discussing various themes about the subject. Accordingly, I suggest that the "Personal life" section should be restored to follow the "Career" section, and that "Player profile" follow the "Legacy" section. (I'm a bit wary of the "Player profile" section, but I'd like to first discuss the ordering before discussing player profiles.) isaacl ( talk) 05:23, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on using "full house" to mean "full count". Comments are welcome. isaacl ( talk) 15:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
I would like to propose adding managerial records to the manager articles.
Here is an example of the type of table that I'm proposing.
Team | From | To | Regular season record | Post–season record | Ref. | ||||
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W | L | Win % | W | L | Win % | ||||
Cincinnati Reds | 1970 | 1978 | 863 | 586 | .596 | 26 | 16 | .619 | |
Detroit Tigers | 1979 | 1995 | 1331 | 1248 | .516 | 8 | 5 | .615 | |
Total | 2194 | 1834 | .545 | 34 | 21 | .618 | — |
If a manager has managed a team more than once, it would look more like this.
Team | From | To | Regular season record | Post–season record | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
W | L | Win % | W | L | Win % | |||
Minnesota Twins | 1969 | 1969 | 97 | 65 | .599 | 0 | 3 | .000 |
Detroit Tigers | 1971 | 1973 | 248 | 204 | .549 | 2 | 3 | .400 |
Texas Rangers | 1973 | 1975 | 137 | 141 | .493 | 0 | 0 | – |
New York Yankees | 1975 | 1978 | 279 | 192 | .592 | 10 | 10 | .500 |
New York Yankees | 1979 | 1979 | 55 | 40 | .579 | 0 | 0 | – |
Oakland Athletics | 1980 | 1982 | 215 | 218 | .497 | 3 | 3 | .500 |
New York Yankees | 1983 | 1983 | 91 | 71 | .562 | 0 | 0 | – |
New York Yankees | 1985 | 1985 | 91 | 54 | .628 | 0 | 0 | – |
New York Yankees | 1988 | 1988 | 40 | 28 | .588 | 0 | 0 | – |
Total | 1253 | 1013 | .553 | 15 | 19 | .441 | ||
Reference: |
It's smaller and more tidy than the season–by–season managerial record tables that have appeared in the past. Unlike the season–by–season managerial record tables, it clearly isn't an excessive listings of statistics and, with the addition of references in the table, it can reference the managerial record in the manager'sinfobox without cluttering the infobox with references. Kingjeff ( talk) 03:36, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
I dont know much about Korean baseball, and find the rules for categories confusing at times, but this is for those of you who are interested. Is this redirecting of team player categories the norm (I assume the team moved or changed sponsors)? I ran across this while investigating unrelated edits.— Bagumba ( talk) 06:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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Is there any consensus whether Relief pitcher and Starting pitcher should be listed as a player's position in their bio's infobox, or should the generic Pitcher be used? For example, Sandy Koufax and Lee Smith (baseball) are listed a pitcher, but Clayton Kershaw is shows as a starter and Mariano Rivera, reliever.— Bagumba ( talk) 04:17, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. It looks like there is no consensus on when to use the generic Pitcher vs more specific Relief pitcher or Starting pitcher. Pitcher might be more suitable than the the specific roles when a pitcher was not predominantly used in one role more than the other. However, more specific terms like Closer, Setup pitcher or Ace are discouraged.— Bagumba ( talk) 01:11, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
If anyone isn't watching Kemp, Grandal, Porcello, Miley, Cespedes, Latos, etc., please do so. I've got other work to do, can't keep reverting all day. This is the one time I think I should become an admin, just so I could protect these pages. @ Bagumba:, you around? – Muboshgu ( talk) 16:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks everybody! – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:48, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
That was the most crazy few days of transactions I can remember. Shoutout to
Garchy,
Spanneraol,
Bagumba,
Trut-h-urts man,
Bloom6132, and everyone else who made sense of the deluge! –
Muboshgu (
talk)
13:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
FWIW, a reminder that there is a pre-canned template {{ uw-sportstrans}} to inform editors on their talk page why their edits were removed even though it is in the news. Hopefully we can create a few new, long-term, productive editors in the process.— Bagumba ( talk) 00:21, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
I've seen where some bios have hidden text in the infobox with a player's new team in the team history section. Presumably, it is hidden because the player has not played a game with their new team yet. Irrespective of whether the team should be hidden or not, it seems that any hidden text should provide editors with an explanatory reason and guidance on when the text can be unhidden. Per WP:HIDDEN, "When it is a mere consensus that a certain edit should not be performed, the hidden text should be worded more softly to suggest to the editor to consult the talk page (or archive page if appropriate) for the current consensus prior to making the edit." Seeing editors uncomment a "current" team, only to see it later reverted because a player has not played a game yet, seems like an endless edit war between now and April.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:14, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Hey baseball editors, just letting you all know that McFarland & Company has offered free e-book versions of its titles to experienced Wikipedians. The publisher has a large collection of titles on baseball. See Wikipedia:McFarland for instructions. Best, The Interior (Talk) 05:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Just an FYI to everyone - a couple new/anon users are going around again and capitalizing the colors found in infoboxes. Colors are not proper nouns and should not be capitalized (previously discussed here). Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 04:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
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According to The Catch, Vic Wertz's hit was caught by Willie Mays 420 feet away in center field. According to the Vic Wertz article, it was 450 feet. Could be either, based on the dimensions of the Polo Grounds. I would guess 450, based on the CF distance of 480 and the picture, but it would be better to find a conclusive answer in a reliable source. Any ideas? Ma t c hups 01:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
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Once again, my personal thanks to everyone who helps improve Wikipedia's coverage of baseball-related articles!
The Inside Corner can only be published if you pitch in and help! Regular contributors are welcome, whether it is covering project news or general baseball news, writing blurbs for articles and photos to showcase in the newsletter, sharing fond memories of the sport, soliciting help for your favourite tasks (such as Baseball Mountain), or anything else you can think of. If you are interested, please put the newsletter desk page on your watchlist, and write a quick note on the newsletter desk talk page. isaacl ( talk) 03:02, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
An IP has been making a lot of edits to Blue Jays season articles, for example 1992 Toronto Blue Jays season.. he/she has been adding detailed lists of TV schedules and umpire teams which seems extremely trivial and unnecessary. Does anyone think this is information worth keeping? Spanneraol ( talk) 17:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
You are invited to the discussion at Talk:Ichiro_Suzuki#Position_in_infobox to reach a consensus on which position(s) to list for his infobox.— Bagumba ( talk) 23:13, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Per the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_January_14#Template:Houston_Astros_retired_numbers, it was decided that the retired number templates (i.e., {{ New York Yankees retired numbers}}) should be kept, but the entries of retired numbers should be removed from the main navboxes (i.e., {{ New York Yankees}}), to reduce redundancy and clutter. I will start on this task now, but would appreciate help from others, not only in editing the main team navboxes, but also taking the templates off player pages. – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
On a related note from an earlier discussion about team HOFs, each member of a team's hall of fame probably doesnt belong on the main navbox either. I've moved them out from Template:San Diego Padres into Template:San Diego Padres Hall of Fame. @ Muboshgu: That template for the "best" team is quite bloated with Monument Park members.— Bagumba ( talk) 22:16, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
A move request has been made at Bob Smith (1920s/30s pitcher) on Feb. 5. I support the move, but in looking at list of Bob Smith's, Bobby Smith's, and Robert Smith's at Retrosheet and Baseball-Reference, there are more naming conventions errors when vetted against WP:NC-BASE. I would go ahead with these changes, but there will be one correction will need someone with a little more skill. Neonblak talk - 16:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I have re-opened a discussion on whether or not it is necessary for each player listed in a "list of" article to have a separate citation to the individual player page on the same web site. Any feedback is welcome. isaacl ( talk) 04:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help find sources for the article Rosie Reds, which is related to the team Cincinnati Reds. It does appear to be notable, but I'm having slight trouble finding sources since there are so many fan pages and so on. Anyone want to help out? Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
WP:Baseball members, please review these discussion threads: [7] and [8]. The changes proposed would affect the way we currently format all single-season NFL articles, and ultimately single-season articles for MLB and other major sports teams, too. Your feedback on the relevant talk pages is invited. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 15:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
User:Nyu5765, someone I am not totally familiar with, decided to edit the Major League Baseball Draft pages for a few years, 2010, 2008, and 2009, and decided to add over 100 names to the "Other notable players" for each draft. Essentially, any player that has ever appeared in the major leagues. When I created those sections a while back, I meant for them to cover players who have made notable impact in the Major Leagues. I felt like so many players, which stretched out the page as well, was overkill, so I removed them. However, he just reverted my edits with no explanation. He hasn't made an edit summary ever, and I doubt he is going to respond to my message on his talk page. What do you think we should do? Does everyone agree that many players is overkill? I don't want to start an edit war so I'm leaving the pages as they are for now. Mpejkrm ( talk) 00:42, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I found the 2014 Umpire Media Guide online, with biographical information on all umpires, historical record of who worked what playoff games, and information on baseball rules, stadium-specific ground rules, and more. It's a great resource. Go Phightins ! 20:35, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Template:Infobox NPB season has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox Nippon Professional Baseball season. Given that these infobox templates are of likely interest to members of this WikiProject, you are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 18:46, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Peer review/2014 Philadelphia Phillies season/archive1 Would someone be willing to peer review this for me? I would QPQ if necessary ... Go Phightins ! 18:16, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
{{ Cactus League}} and {{ Grapefruit League}} have been nominated for deletion -- 70.51.200.101 ( talk) 03:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
A proposed change to a cut-off has been proposed here. Anyone is free to weigh in. Thanks, Sportsguy17 ( T • C) 23:00, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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The Inside Corner needs you to contribute articles, project updates, baseball news, and blurbs on showcased articles and pictures. What's next for your favourite team: are they in the playoff hunt, if only for a wild card, or is the best thing you're expecting to see from them is a free bobblehead? What are your pre-season predictions? Who do you think will be the surprise of the season? What milestones are you looking forward to seeing? Excited to see one of the largest Hall of Fame classes get inducted? If you are interested in submitting something, put the newsletter desk on your watchlist, and join in on the discussion page, letting us know what you are planning. Thanks again to everyone for their efforts: it is much appreciated! isaacl ( talk) 04:46, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
The discussion summarized here (which in turn leads to 2 other discussions) may interest some followers of this page.
As I read it, it leads to major league baseball players (like former MVPs Al Rosen and Ernie Banks) being less likely to be considered notable than athletes in other sports, where the # 1 league includes non-English-speaking countries.
Because the notability test of that guideline is "how many non-English Wikipedias have articles on the fellow". -- Epeefleche ( talk) 10:48, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Template:Central Texas Sports and several similar navbox templates have been nominated for deletion. Given that the subjects of these navboxes are within the scope of WikiProject baseball, you are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 14:53, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Can someone help keep an eye on Cody Stanley's blurb at the Cardinals minor league page? An IP is removing factual info about his suspension. I've already reverted a few times, but i'm over the limit.-- Yankees10 23:42, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Accessibility#Accessibility_with_infoboxes that is related to Template:Infobox baseball biography having data inside a header, such as the current placement of the player's number and team.— Bagumba ( talk) 00:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
YahwehSaves has been changing how All-Star games are counted on the Mickey Mantle article, changing his all-star appearances from 20 to 16 based on counting the years where there were two all-star games as one appearance. The last time this was debated, the consensus was against him but he has apparently decided that since a couple of years have gone by he's gonna go ahead and implement these changes anyway. See here for the recent discussion on Mantle's talk page. EricEnfermero and I figured it should be brought here for wider debate on this. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
This is an ongoing issue. See the lead at Nellie Fox. I don't think consensus has changed based on this discussion. EricEnfermero ( Talk) 02:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
For more perspective, how do we handle players selected to one of the midseason official All-Star teams but replaced on the squad for injury, family obligation, etc? Infobox aside, is there any boilerplate prose explanation, or anyone who is comfortable with hir wording? -- P64 ( talk) 17:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
With the continued debate over the infobox display of multiple all-star games in the same year, I can't seem to find any sourced mention of these multiple games occurring, including the reasons behind it and the roster selection process. There's just a brief unsourced mention in the lead. Can someone in the know update MLB All-Star Game with verifiable information. The entire infobox debate threat is TLDR to determine the facts for these games.— Bagumba ( talk) 17:49, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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template (see the
help page).