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Do we really need a section in some Digimon articles that say "Last Words" that are well, the last words of a Digimon before it is killed? Is that really needed? I'd like an answer asap just to make sure.-- Tohru Honda 13 Sign here! 20:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
No, he's been blocked indefinitely. And he certainly did NOT have good intentions. He broke 3RR various times, did not follow ANY of Wikipedia's policies, and insulted other users for removing the last words. — ♥ Tohru Honda13♥ 18:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for 'interfering' but,is there something wrong with the section about a digimons' 'last words' as it appears in the films and series very often, of a bad, weak digimon sacrificing itself to save its' friends (sorry I have just joined the project and did not check the articles history).Such as pumpkinmon and gotsomon sacrificing themselves to momentarily 'cease' the vile Myotismon to save their 'new friends'. Wongdai 11:06 8 April 2007
Pinkbamon <<<is this redirect meant to be a joke? (i was about to nominate it to RFD, but just wanted to make sure first) -- Saintmagician 08:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
On our Lalamon and Gaomon articles, we have Botamon listed as the fresh form.
Is this actually cannon.
The note on it says "Based on data from Digimon Savers v-pet, Digivice iC", which seems a bit suspicious to me. Do these two digimon actually have a fresh form in the anime? -- Saintmagician 08:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
What is the source of the belief that Mode Change is not a real digivolution? I have never seen a source for this in the anime or manga, and V-Tamer specifically calls it Super Evolution.
As far as I can tell, it's a belief started by a fansite based on the creators personal opinions, and has been repeated by others.
Can anyone give a source for this besides the cards? 128.211.176.24 14:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
The fresh forms for the tamers digimon (e.g reremon) never actually appear in the anime. And the TCG doesn' have cards for fresh digimon.
Anyone know where the information for things like reremon and jyarimon actually come from?
The picture for reremon says it's official bandai art. So i don't suppose Reremon appears in anything official as renamon's fresh form? Otherwise, i really don't know what to do with it. There's nothing to say other than "it's renamon's fresh form". So it's not like we have anywhere else to put it other than on the renamon page. -- `/aksha 06:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I've said something to this effect before, but Omnimon should get his own article. He more than any single evolution in the franchise appears apart from his previous forms (Agumon, et all), and he's a character in a LOT of the various series.
To put it into perspective, he is a seperate CHARACTER in:
And he has a whole bunch of other stuff associated with him such as miscellaneous information that simply CAN'T be handled by having him just be a subfacet of the Royal Knights and Agumon/Gabumon articles. - -- 204.184.63.212 13:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Digimon have gender(not phyiscally), but mentally and in personality. You can't refer to a Digimon as a "it" unless it shows no gender differing aspects. In my opinion, whoever did this "his/her to it" just made things harder. User:Fractyl
Silphymon from 02 is not officially male. Since we're splitting articles by character, silphymon sections on gatomon and hawkmon's articles refer to *only* the silphymon from digimon adventure 02. And that one never had an official gender.
As for crusadermon, you've been changing crusader to a 'he'. However, as you say, the dub made crusadermon out as a 'she'. And the dub is equally official. I daresay, amoung english viewers, most people would see crusadermon as a she since most of them would have watched Frontiers when the dub aired on TV stations. So should we use "he/she", or the singular they (which isn't really completely accepted in english), or just fall back on it for this special case? Or maybe we should make an arbitrary decision of either 'he' or 'she', and explain why in the article. (a lot of D&D articles used to have this, it didn't work.)
Basing it on what's obvious is going to have other problems too. Agumon used to have 'he' on its article. But Botamon (even when referring to it as agumon's fresh form) almost always had 'it'. Then there're digimon who don't obviously have a gender. Are we going to use 'it' for them? but using it for any digimon implies to the reader that digimon don't have gender.
So i don't see the point of going to all the trouble. Some digimon may look nicer with gender pronouns, but we're doing nothing wrong by using 'it'. Since it is "official" that digimon don't have gender. Renamon says this. Official character notes from tamers also explain how despite how some digimon appear obviously male or female, they officially don't have gender.
As for the DNA digimon. Are you suggesting something like we have a veemon article, we have a wormmon article. And then a seperate article for paildramon/imperialdramon/fightermode/paladinmode? -- `/aksha 09:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Digimon don't have sex and gender it's all about their characteristics and how they act,that may seem feminine or masculine, but these 'digital monsters' dont sexually reproduce or have reproductive organs, they are 'data' created in a digital world (some viruses).The pages should remain describing digimon as 'it',or 'they' But not as 'his' 'or her' Wongdai 11:13 8 April 2007
To ask, who prefered the way the Digimon pages were originally? Some think this new version is more confusing and pointless. You know who you are. User:Fractyl
id rather have the old syestem back as the newer verson confuses and is easily misunderstood Blazemon
I prefer the way things used to be-- Bushido Brown 07:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
This sounds like a good project. I watched much of the dubbed Digimon cartoon series on TV. Now that I'm back I'm wanting to watch the original fansubs so that I can get familiar with the original content. For example, I'm just now finding out that the original was called 'Adventure' and it's a good way to distinguish things. So far I found Wolfpack Productions who've done almost 10 of Adventure and Adventure 02. So that doesn't free up the original 50, are there other fansubbers who've done the whole series? Tyciol 20:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Since we are now in the process of merging all the individual mon articles, I propose making a list of all the major Digimon which appear in the V-Tamer manga. This would allow us to merge several existing mon articles into this one. My current idea for this article looks like this:
This list is far from perfect but it would allow us to merge several articles and informations into this one. I haven't included all the major V-Tamer Digimon into the list already since I wrote it down in a short time so if you think some Digimon are missing please add them. Diabound00 07:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Just so you know there is a Hagurumon X page. Also where did we get the information about the Adventure Digimon's Mega's e.g. Plesiomon for Gomamon? trainra 06:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
The mega digimon for adventures i think will work even if you dont know the official one you could do a split. Such as for salamon put in opanimon and magnadramon and write 'one of salamons mega forms...'. As for gomamon im pretty sure pleseiomon is the mega for him however marine angemon could just be a mega for pitimon as pitimon can digivole to other rookies other than gomamon. I think we should disuss this further and i would like to Nightmare SE please. We could give the pertensal megas a main artil and link them to the digimons articals instead of adding it to the merge. Or revert the old format of the digimon articals. Think about it. Thanks Blazemon
Since this is being suggested on the page I made for him, I'd like to talk about the Yggdrasil page I made's suggested merging with "List of Digimon Savers Minor Characters." I feel that this would be a mistake - he exists in two (three, allegedly) iterations of the franchise, and unlike the various Digimon who appear as a species, this is a variation on the same character idea. Savers Yggdrasil is to X-Evolution Yggdrasil like the Green Goblin is to his alternate portryals - they're the same essential character. Restricting him to just being talked about on the Savers page would be limiting and create a disconnect for readers. - -- 204.184.63.212 02:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I started off that idea about having an article that explains the Digimon themselves. I suck when it comes to organizing, so maybe you guys can swoop in and figure out the categories. Indiawilliams 03:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Let's get it on. Indiawilliams 22:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I problem i see is that for Digimon species who appear as main characters, we don't include random cameo appearances.
So for example - Botamon. We've merged Botamon to Agumon's article - however, the merge only took the information regarding Digimon Adventure's botamon. I didn't include things like "Some Botamon were seen in both versions of the Village of New Beginnings in Digimon Frontier" because i considered them to be too trivial. So that, we don't *have* to list every single tiny appearance of every digimon.
However, for random digimon who are ending up on the "Miscellenous lists" (as the only Indiawilliams just started), we're including information that is much more trivia.
So for example - "A Jyarimon was a student at Togemon's school. Another one was seen at the Fortune Teller Village in Digimon Frontier". Both of those appearances are really quite trivial appearances. But...they are the *only* appearances Jyarimon makes in the digimon anime, so if we don't mention it...then it's like (to the casual reader) 'here's Jyarimon, it exists, but it never really appears'.
So the point is, Digimon in the lists (such as Jyarimon) will be covered in more detail in that VERY trivial appearances will be noted. However, very trivial appearances of Digimon not in lists (such as botamon) will not be covered anywhere.
One solution i thought of would be to just add all Digimon species to lists. So instead of "Miscellanous Fresh/In-Training/Rookie...etc Digimon" lists, we just have "List of Fresh/In-Training/Rookie...etc. Digimon". Those lists will list all digimon species, but for ones which have their own articles, we just use "main article links". The other advantage to this is that we won't need our current List of Digimon article anymore - the "list of..." articles will be a complete list. List of Digimon will probably be turned into something like a disambiguation page that will link to all our other lists.
Any thoughts? -- `/aksha 05:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, it doesn't seem like anyone else cares. So i've gone ahead. List of Fresh digimon and List of In-Training digimon. I wasn't sure whether we should captilize the "digimon" bit....-- `/aksha 04:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I recall Wikimon being around a while, and just found out about the less active Digimon Wikia, and it got me thinking.. It would be interesting to do some sort of cross-site collaboration and make the most of all our efforts. I'm not sure what Wikimon's licensing status is, but the Digimon Wikia and here on Wikipedia are under GFDL, meaning we can copy things both ways, etc. Thoughts? -- Ned Scott 02:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Since they're all fresh, in-training, it's fair to say they have only appeared on D-Pets. Unless someone has seen them in the anime (KoDokugumon definitely appears with Dokugumon in Adventure 01, but is not named), then that's where they came from. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.211.254.142 ( talk) 16:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC).
A bit of a battle going on at the Digimon (creature) talk page. Is "Super Ultimate" an actual level above the Ultimate? It's in V-Tamer but is it notable enough to mention elsewhere? Indiawilliams 17:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Just noticing that the TV section on Digimon and Digimon: Digital Monsters is a bit redundant. Looks like someone went and synced them up so they're the same thing, which is fine, I guess, but it got me thinking.. maybe we should only have it in one article. Or maybe some level of merging with Digimon and Digimon: Digital Monsters is needed? Not really sure about it myself, but I thought I'd mention it. -- Ned Scott 23:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
i noticed that information like this is being text dumped onto talk pages.
Nothing wrong with it. But just wanted to let people know that i've also been preserving any information from pre-merge articles that haven't yet been included into new articles in my userspace. -- `/aksha 03:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
That's what we where going to do...but since now we're going to include all the digimon into lists, the old plans won't work anymore. Say if i wanted to go create the first ultimate digimon list, i have no idea whether to name it (A-F) or (A-G). We don't know how many digimon will be on a list, or how many lists there will be. If i name an article (A-G) and then discover there're tons of "G" digimon of that level, then i'll have to rename the article when i move the "G" digimon to the next list. All of these lists are going to have a huge number of redirects coming in, cleaning up the double redirects after a move is not going to be funny.
I don't see why having (A-G) is better than (Part 1), but i really don't care. It seems to me that it's just an arbitrary presentation decision we have to make. If you want to change it, please wait until after the lists are created and more or less stable so you actually know which letters of the alphabete each part of a list is cutting off. -- `/aksha 11:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The user 84.81.129.59 repeatedly adds the digivolution lines to pages that have them and some that don't, which ones do we delete? I think I have only deleted the ones that already had their digivolution lines on that page. trainra 10:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Can someone more knowledgeable than I am about tamer (Japanese and dub) look at talk:Rika Nonaka? There seems to be substancial evidence that her father is not dead. Circeus 22:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I nominated A Million Points of Light for deletion, per previous discussion to not create Digimon episode articles. Circeus 13:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
What is meant by this comment in the List of Digimon Savers episodes?:
"As it currently stands, Digimon Savers will be the shortest series in the franchise to date, and will be ending with 48 episodes. Originally, it was supposed to have 54 broadcast weeks, but due to overriding broadcasts, 6 weeks were missed."
'Overriding broadcasts?' What exactly happened for Savers' time-slot to get taken away? And '6 weeks were missed' sounds like they're just not gonna air the last 6 episodes. Savers WILL end with a proper conclusion, right? Indiawilliams 23:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
54 episodes weren't planned, so there are no missing episodes. Savers will indeed have a conclusion. Shining Celebi 19:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I've merged Digimon: Digital Monsters with Digimon, see Talk:Digimon#Main article and anime article merged for more info. -- Ned Scott 09:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Digital Monster Ver. WonderSwan
I can't because I know nothing about the WonderSwan games. Would someone please add some encyclopedic info to it because right now it's breaking every Wikipedia rule ever. *twitch* Indiawilliams 04:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Here you go! User:Fractyl
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_1.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_2.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_3.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_4.jpg
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_5.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_6.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_7.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_8.jpg
I thought these were going to be seperated into egg groups not Lists of mixed armour digimon? Also the edits to talk pages on digimon related articles is not working. trainra 09:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know which of these attack's Matt's WereGarurumon used?:
And for that matter, did his MetalGarurumon really use all those attacks? Indiawilliams 00:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Where do they (Matt's Drama, Michi-blah blah and Natsu e no Tobira) fit in the Digimon timeline? Specifically I want to know if they should be listed before or after Revenge of Diaboromon in the Digidestined articles. Indiawilliams 19:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
As you know, Argomon have Ultimate and Mega forms. The Japanese translation are "Argomon" and "Argomon(Mega)".
I only have the image of his Mega form (from the card), and I believe that his Ultimate form looks different? I also have the other details on their cards (JT, Vi, Mutant, attacks). So shall I start the page Argomon (Mega) to seperate them? (just like Burgermon? orz||) Kennethayes 08:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Do the Frontier Spirit Digimon evolve or digivolve? trainra 07:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually it´s Evolve. All Digimon Evolve. Digivolve was a Dub Name.
I apologise if I sound rude. Wongdai 12:02 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Something to note on the main project page :D
Digimon Savers has been "licensed" (not really licensed, since Bandai and Toei Animation have American branches/whatever) and will have an english dub under the title "Digimon Data Squad". As Amigobro2 has noted on Talk:Digimon Savers: " http://www.toei-anim.com/ Then go to the bottom left, click on shows, and then Digimon Data Squad.".
I would hold off on major changes for the time being, like renaming articles and such, as this is so newly announced. For the time being the original names will still be more commonly recognized, and it's not unlikely for names to be changed before the actual show premiere. Then again, it's likely they will go with the "Data Squad", Touma being changed to Thomas, and other possible changes, so it does seem a bit inevitable. The one thing we don't know is if the TV networks will refer to this as a "season 5" or a stand alone show. If people want to make changes then I guess they can go ahead and do so, but personally I would wait before investing my time in updating links and such. -- Ned Scott 01:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
These two digimon keep being written as Mercurimon and Neptunmon. Since the original japanese site lists them as Mercurymon and Neptunemon, and neither of them have appeared in an English series yet, I'm really confused why people keep telling me that the names have been changed from the original Roman names. Here's the site, in case you doubt me: http://www.digimon.channel.or.jp/city/gallery/accel/index.html
These need to be changed, and I am going to start doing so. Since Mercurimon (incorrectly) appears all over the Savers articles, I thought I should put this here, since it will be beyond my power to do this myself.
And it has nothing to do with the Warrior of Steel - the official name for that is Mercuremon, from the french word for quicksilver (our Mercury). 128.211.254.142 16:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
"Mercurymon" and "Mercurimon" are not the SAME digimon. Mercurymon was the water spirit digimon who appeared in digimon frontiers. Mercurimon is the olympus 12 digimon who appears in savers. "Mercurymon" and "Mercurimon" are not alternative spellings for the same digimon. They're two different species.
[english name] <-> [japanese name] <-> [appearance] Mercurying <-> Mercuremon <-> Digimon Frontier ( picture) Mercurimon <-> Mercurimon <-> Digimon frontier ( picture)
The "Mercurymon" used on the japanese site is either a spelling mistake. Or it's actually referring to Mercurimon (who's generally also called Mercurimon in japanese). It's not referring to our Mercurymon, who is called Mercuremon in japanese. ("Mercuri" would be the jap equivalent of "Mercury". Where as "Mercure" and "Mercuri" are defintely pronounced differently in jap.)
As for Neptunmon - it's always been Neptunmon. Both as the japanese romanization and as the english name. I don't see any romanji on the japanese site you linked to, so i don't see how you could have gotten "Neptunemon" from that site. Also, i believe it has appeared in the digimon card game.
In conclusion, i'm changing both of the names back. -- `/aksha 11:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
imdb also lists the warrior of steel as mercuremon. Every fansite I have seen lists the warrior of steel as Mercuremon. THE FRONTIER DIGIMON IS NOT MERCURYMON. As for the Digimon World DS game - that is nice, but the fact that it shows that it is using Bandai names (Creepymon), as opposed to Toei names, should be a hint that the Toei name takes precedence. I cannot find any images of Neptunemon or Mercurymon appearing on cards. If you can show me an image, please do, but so far you haven't. Unless you can give cites, please change it back to at least Mercurymon (I'll let Neptunmon slide, since it did appear in Digimon World DS, but Mercurymon hasn't appeared in any English form yet.) As for the cards, aksha - I'm having trouble even finding an English Mercuremon card, and I've looked through all of the checklists. Much less finding a Neptunemon or Mercurymon card. Even in the rare event I did find it - the card game has given us such gems as Dunusmon, Beelzemon Bluster Mode, Fanglongmon, Rhihimon, Kuamon, KorIkkaumon, and so on. The cards really aren't the place to look for for dub names - either the dub itself, or the original Japanese is the best you can get, since the dub is usually closest to the original Japanese. 128.211.178.133 16:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
As for preferring Japanese - THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. I said that the only romanization that has been found (no one has brought up any others, and it definitely hasn't been released as an english card, aksha) calls it Mercurymon. Yes, that disagrees with the spelling of the Japanese - but the Japanese classification for the Power and Virtue Angels also are mixed up, but the mixed up version is the way it is presented in the translation. Mercurymon is the direct romanization that the Japanese creators decided to use - I'd like to think they may understand Japanese more than we do.
THEY DID USE メルクリィ to mean MERCURY.
The number of Digimon per article is arbitrary, just use your judgement - we don't want too many articles, but we don't want really looooooong articles either.
Currently, Champion & Ultimate have around 150 per level. Mega has more than 170. Rookie has 80-something.
Maybe it's a bit early to talk about this, but i really wonder when i came to Wendigomon. orz||
Is it too long to have 50 in a page (at last)? Should I start Part 4 or Part 3 for Wendigomon? @_@ Kennethayes 07:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually the Champions (and Ultimates), especially the older digimon like Greymon, Angemon or Angewomon are quite "bulky". Later, when there are more than 40 or 50 in a page, it would long enough.
I am not really merging the articles according to alphabetical order. I came to Wendigomon as I was dealing with the Lopmon family. But W-Wendigomon is ranking around 130 among the 145 Champions in alphabetical order, and I wonder if it is better to start the part 2 / 3 / 4 earlier. (Just to save time from correcting the redirects / internal links afterwards.)
I will be quite free from late-April to June, and then I would "waste" much time on the lists I guess. Kennethayes 19:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
i know the category page. =P but just dont want to do in order. so naughty. so i will start the other pages (and moving those Weedmon, VictoryGreymon etc). hope that you dont mind me starting the part 4 first for Wendigomon?! Kennethayes 05:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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Do we really need a section in some Digimon articles that say "Last Words" that are well, the last words of a Digimon before it is killed? Is that really needed? I'd like an answer asap just to make sure.-- Tohru Honda 13 Sign here! 20:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
No, he's been blocked indefinitely. And he certainly did NOT have good intentions. He broke 3RR various times, did not follow ANY of Wikipedia's policies, and insulted other users for removing the last words. — ♥ Tohru Honda13♥ 18:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for 'interfering' but,is there something wrong with the section about a digimons' 'last words' as it appears in the films and series very often, of a bad, weak digimon sacrificing itself to save its' friends (sorry I have just joined the project and did not check the articles history).Such as pumpkinmon and gotsomon sacrificing themselves to momentarily 'cease' the vile Myotismon to save their 'new friends'. Wongdai 11:06 8 April 2007
Pinkbamon <<<is this redirect meant to be a joke? (i was about to nominate it to RFD, but just wanted to make sure first) -- Saintmagician 08:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
On our Lalamon and Gaomon articles, we have Botamon listed as the fresh form.
Is this actually cannon.
The note on it says "Based on data from Digimon Savers v-pet, Digivice iC", which seems a bit suspicious to me. Do these two digimon actually have a fresh form in the anime? -- Saintmagician 08:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
What is the source of the belief that Mode Change is not a real digivolution? I have never seen a source for this in the anime or manga, and V-Tamer specifically calls it Super Evolution.
As far as I can tell, it's a belief started by a fansite based on the creators personal opinions, and has been repeated by others.
Can anyone give a source for this besides the cards? 128.211.176.24 14:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
The fresh forms for the tamers digimon (e.g reremon) never actually appear in the anime. And the TCG doesn' have cards for fresh digimon.
Anyone know where the information for things like reremon and jyarimon actually come from?
The picture for reremon says it's official bandai art. So i don't suppose Reremon appears in anything official as renamon's fresh form? Otherwise, i really don't know what to do with it. There's nothing to say other than "it's renamon's fresh form". So it's not like we have anywhere else to put it other than on the renamon page. -- `/aksha 06:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I've said something to this effect before, but Omnimon should get his own article. He more than any single evolution in the franchise appears apart from his previous forms (Agumon, et all), and he's a character in a LOT of the various series.
To put it into perspective, he is a seperate CHARACTER in:
And he has a whole bunch of other stuff associated with him such as miscellaneous information that simply CAN'T be handled by having him just be a subfacet of the Royal Knights and Agumon/Gabumon articles. - -- 204.184.63.212 13:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Digimon have gender(not phyiscally), but mentally and in personality. You can't refer to a Digimon as a "it" unless it shows no gender differing aspects. In my opinion, whoever did this "his/her to it" just made things harder. User:Fractyl
Silphymon from 02 is not officially male. Since we're splitting articles by character, silphymon sections on gatomon and hawkmon's articles refer to *only* the silphymon from digimon adventure 02. And that one never had an official gender.
As for crusadermon, you've been changing crusader to a 'he'. However, as you say, the dub made crusadermon out as a 'she'. And the dub is equally official. I daresay, amoung english viewers, most people would see crusadermon as a she since most of them would have watched Frontiers when the dub aired on TV stations. So should we use "he/she", or the singular they (which isn't really completely accepted in english), or just fall back on it for this special case? Or maybe we should make an arbitrary decision of either 'he' or 'she', and explain why in the article. (a lot of D&D articles used to have this, it didn't work.)
Basing it on what's obvious is going to have other problems too. Agumon used to have 'he' on its article. But Botamon (even when referring to it as agumon's fresh form) almost always had 'it'. Then there're digimon who don't obviously have a gender. Are we going to use 'it' for them? but using it for any digimon implies to the reader that digimon don't have gender.
So i don't see the point of going to all the trouble. Some digimon may look nicer with gender pronouns, but we're doing nothing wrong by using 'it'. Since it is "official" that digimon don't have gender. Renamon says this. Official character notes from tamers also explain how despite how some digimon appear obviously male or female, they officially don't have gender.
As for the DNA digimon. Are you suggesting something like we have a veemon article, we have a wormmon article. And then a seperate article for paildramon/imperialdramon/fightermode/paladinmode? -- `/aksha 09:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Digimon don't have sex and gender it's all about their characteristics and how they act,that may seem feminine or masculine, but these 'digital monsters' dont sexually reproduce or have reproductive organs, they are 'data' created in a digital world (some viruses).The pages should remain describing digimon as 'it',or 'they' But not as 'his' 'or her' Wongdai 11:13 8 April 2007
To ask, who prefered the way the Digimon pages were originally? Some think this new version is more confusing and pointless. You know who you are. User:Fractyl
id rather have the old syestem back as the newer verson confuses and is easily misunderstood Blazemon
I prefer the way things used to be-- Bushido Brown 07:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
This sounds like a good project. I watched much of the dubbed Digimon cartoon series on TV. Now that I'm back I'm wanting to watch the original fansubs so that I can get familiar with the original content. For example, I'm just now finding out that the original was called 'Adventure' and it's a good way to distinguish things. So far I found Wolfpack Productions who've done almost 10 of Adventure and Adventure 02. So that doesn't free up the original 50, are there other fansubbers who've done the whole series? Tyciol 20:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Since we are now in the process of merging all the individual mon articles, I propose making a list of all the major Digimon which appear in the V-Tamer manga. This would allow us to merge several existing mon articles into this one. My current idea for this article looks like this:
This list is far from perfect but it would allow us to merge several articles and informations into this one. I haven't included all the major V-Tamer Digimon into the list already since I wrote it down in a short time so if you think some Digimon are missing please add them. Diabound00 07:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Just so you know there is a Hagurumon X page. Also where did we get the information about the Adventure Digimon's Mega's e.g. Plesiomon for Gomamon? trainra 06:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
The mega digimon for adventures i think will work even if you dont know the official one you could do a split. Such as for salamon put in opanimon and magnadramon and write 'one of salamons mega forms...'. As for gomamon im pretty sure pleseiomon is the mega for him however marine angemon could just be a mega for pitimon as pitimon can digivole to other rookies other than gomamon. I think we should disuss this further and i would like to Nightmare SE please. We could give the pertensal megas a main artil and link them to the digimons articals instead of adding it to the merge. Or revert the old format of the digimon articals. Think about it. Thanks Blazemon
Since this is being suggested on the page I made for him, I'd like to talk about the Yggdrasil page I made's suggested merging with "List of Digimon Savers Minor Characters." I feel that this would be a mistake - he exists in two (three, allegedly) iterations of the franchise, and unlike the various Digimon who appear as a species, this is a variation on the same character idea. Savers Yggdrasil is to X-Evolution Yggdrasil like the Green Goblin is to his alternate portryals - they're the same essential character. Restricting him to just being talked about on the Savers page would be limiting and create a disconnect for readers. - -- 204.184.63.212 02:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I started off that idea about having an article that explains the Digimon themselves. I suck when it comes to organizing, so maybe you guys can swoop in and figure out the categories. Indiawilliams 03:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Let's get it on. Indiawilliams 22:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I problem i see is that for Digimon species who appear as main characters, we don't include random cameo appearances.
So for example - Botamon. We've merged Botamon to Agumon's article - however, the merge only took the information regarding Digimon Adventure's botamon. I didn't include things like "Some Botamon were seen in both versions of the Village of New Beginnings in Digimon Frontier" because i considered them to be too trivial. So that, we don't *have* to list every single tiny appearance of every digimon.
However, for random digimon who are ending up on the "Miscellenous lists" (as the only Indiawilliams just started), we're including information that is much more trivia.
So for example - "A Jyarimon was a student at Togemon's school. Another one was seen at the Fortune Teller Village in Digimon Frontier". Both of those appearances are really quite trivial appearances. But...they are the *only* appearances Jyarimon makes in the digimon anime, so if we don't mention it...then it's like (to the casual reader) 'here's Jyarimon, it exists, but it never really appears'.
So the point is, Digimon in the lists (such as Jyarimon) will be covered in more detail in that VERY trivial appearances will be noted. However, very trivial appearances of Digimon not in lists (such as botamon) will not be covered anywhere.
One solution i thought of would be to just add all Digimon species to lists. So instead of "Miscellanous Fresh/In-Training/Rookie...etc Digimon" lists, we just have "List of Fresh/In-Training/Rookie...etc. Digimon". Those lists will list all digimon species, but for ones which have their own articles, we just use "main article links". The other advantage to this is that we won't need our current List of Digimon article anymore - the "list of..." articles will be a complete list. List of Digimon will probably be turned into something like a disambiguation page that will link to all our other lists.
Any thoughts? -- `/aksha 05:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, it doesn't seem like anyone else cares. So i've gone ahead. List of Fresh digimon and List of In-Training digimon. I wasn't sure whether we should captilize the "digimon" bit....-- `/aksha 04:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I recall Wikimon being around a while, and just found out about the less active Digimon Wikia, and it got me thinking.. It would be interesting to do some sort of cross-site collaboration and make the most of all our efforts. I'm not sure what Wikimon's licensing status is, but the Digimon Wikia and here on Wikipedia are under GFDL, meaning we can copy things both ways, etc. Thoughts? -- Ned Scott 02:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Since they're all fresh, in-training, it's fair to say they have only appeared on D-Pets. Unless someone has seen them in the anime (KoDokugumon definitely appears with Dokugumon in Adventure 01, but is not named), then that's where they came from. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.211.254.142 ( talk) 16:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC).
A bit of a battle going on at the Digimon (creature) talk page. Is "Super Ultimate" an actual level above the Ultimate? It's in V-Tamer but is it notable enough to mention elsewhere? Indiawilliams 17:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Just noticing that the TV section on Digimon and Digimon: Digital Monsters is a bit redundant. Looks like someone went and synced them up so they're the same thing, which is fine, I guess, but it got me thinking.. maybe we should only have it in one article. Or maybe some level of merging with Digimon and Digimon: Digital Monsters is needed? Not really sure about it myself, but I thought I'd mention it. -- Ned Scott 23:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
i noticed that information like this is being text dumped onto talk pages.
Nothing wrong with it. But just wanted to let people know that i've also been preserving any information from pre-merge articles that haven't yet been included into new articles in my userspace. -- `/aksha 03:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
That's what we where going to do...but since now we're going to include all the digimon into lists, the old plans won't work anymore. Say if i wanted to go create the first ultimate digimon list, i have no idea whether to name it (A-F) or (A-G). We don't know how many digimon will be on a list, or how many lists there will be. If i name an article (A-G) and then discover there're tons of "G" digimon of that level, then i'll have to rename the article when i move the "G" digimon to the next list. All of these lists are going to have a huge number of redirects coming in, cleaning up the double redirects after a move is not going to be funny.
I don't see why having (A-G) is better than (Part 1), but i really don't care. It seems to me that it's just an arbitrary presentation decision we have to make. If you want to change it, please wait until after the lists are created and more or less stable so you actually know which letters of the alphabete each part of a list is cutting off. -- `/aksha 11:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The user 84.81.129.59 repeatedly adds the digivolution lines to pages that have them and some that don't, which ones do we delete? I think I have only deleted the ones that already had their digivolution lines on that page. trainra 10:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Can someone more knowledgeable than I am about tamer (Japanese and dub) look at talk:Rika Nonaka? There seems to be substancial evidence that her father is not dead. Circeus 22:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I nominated A Million Points of Light for deletion, per previous discussion to not create Digimon episode articles. Circeus 13:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
What is meant by this comment in the List of Digimon Savers episodes?:
"As it currently stands, Digimon Savers will be the shortest series in the franchise to date, and will be ending with 48 episodes. Originally, it was supposed to have 54 broadcast weeks, but due to overriding broadcasts, 6 weeks were missed."
'Overriding broadcasts?' What exactly happened for Savers' time-slot to get taken away? And '6 weeks were missed' sounds like they're just not gonna air the last 6 episodes. Savers WILL end with a proper conclusion, right? Indiawilliams 23:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
54 episodes weren't planned, so there are no missing episodes. Savers will indeed have a conclusion. Shining Celebi 19:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I've merged Digimon: Digital Monsters with Digimon, see Talk:Digimon#Main article and anime article merged for more info. -- Ned Scott 09:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Digital Monster Ver. WonderSwan
I can't because I know nothing about the WonderSwan games. Would someone please add some encyclopedic info to it because right now it's breaking every Wikipedia rule ever. *twitch* Indiawilliams 04:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Here you go! User:Fractyl
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_1.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_2.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_3.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_4.jpg
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_5.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_6.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_7.jpg http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_digimon02/original/images/chara_8.jpg
I thought these were going to be seperated into egg groups not Lists of mixed armour digimon? Also the edits to talk pages on digimon related articles is not working. trainra 09:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know which of these attack's Matt's WereGarurumon used?:
And for that matter, did his MetalGarurumon really use all those attacks? Indiawilliams 00:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Where do they (Matt's Drama, Michi-blah blah and Natsu e no Tobira) fit in the Digimon timeline? Specifically I want to know if they should be listed before or after Revenge of Diaboromon in the Digidestined articles. Indiawilliams 19:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
As you know, Argomon have Ultimate and Mega forms. The Japanese translation are "Argomon" and "Argomon(Mega)".
I only have the image of his Mega form (from the card), and I believe that his Ultimate form looks different? I also have the other details on their cards (JT, Vi, Mutant, attacks). So shall I start the page Argomon (Mega) to seperate them? (just like Burgermon? orz||) Kennethayes 08:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Do the Frontier Spirit Digimon evolve or digivolve? trainra 07:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually it´s Evolve. All Digimon Evolve. Digivolve was a Dub Name.
I apologise if I sound rude. Wongdai 12:02 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Something to note on the main project page :D
Digimon Savers has been "licensed" (not really licensed, since Bandai and Toei Animation have American branches/whatever) and will have an english dub under the title "Digimon Data Squad". As Amigobro2 has noted on Talk:Digimon Savers: " http://www.toei-anim.com/ Then go to the bottom left, click on shows, and then Digimon Data Squad.".
I would hold off on major changes for the time being, like renaming articles and such, as this is so newly announced. For the time being the original names will still be more commonly recognized, and it's not unlikely for names to be changed before the actual show premiere. Then again, it's likely they will go with the "Data Squad", Touma being changed to Thomas, and other possible changes, so it does seem a bit inevitable. The one thing we don't know is if the TV networks will refer to this as a "season 5" or a stand alone show. If people want to make changes then I guess they can go ahead and do so, but personally I would wait before investing my time in updating links and such. -- Ned Scott 01:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
These two digimon keep being written as Mercurimon and Neptunmon. Since the original japanese site lists them as Mercurymon and Neptunemon, and neither of them have appeared in an English series yet, I'm really confused why people keep telling me that the names have been changed from the original Roman names. Here's the site, in case you doubt me: http://www.digimon.channel.or.jp/city/gallery/accel/index.html
These need to be changed, and I am going to start doing so. Since Mercurimon (incorrectly) appears all over the Savers articles, I thought I should put this here, since it will be beyond my power to do this myself.
And it has nothing to do with the Warrior of Steel - the official name for that is Mercuremon, from the french word for quicksilver (our Mercury). 128.211.254.142 16:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
"Mercurymon" and "Mercurimon" are not the SAME digimon. Mercurymon was the water spirit digimon who appeared in digimon frontiers. Mercurimon is the olympus 12 digimon who appears in savers. "Mercurymon" and "Mercurimon" are not alternative spellings for the same digimon. They're two different species.
[english name] <-> [japanese name] <-> [appearance] Mercurying <-> Mercuremon <-> Digimon Frontier ( picture) Mercurimon <-> Mercurimon <-> Digimon frontier ( picture)
The "Mercurymon" used on the japanese site is either a spelling mistake. Or it's actually referring to Mercurimon (who's generally also called Mercurimon in japanese). It's not referring to our Mercurymon, who is called Mercuremon in japanese. ("Mercuri" would be the jap equivalent of "Mercury". Where as "Mercure" and "Mercuri" are defintely pronounced differently in jap.)
As for Neptunmon - it's always been Neptunmon. Both as the japanese romanization and as the english name. I don't see any romanji on the japanese site you linked to, so i don't see how you could have gotten "Neptunemon" from that site. Also, i believe it has appeared in the digimon card game.
In conclusion, i'm changing both of the names back. -- `/aksha 11:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
imdb also lists the warrior of steel as mercuremon. Every fansite I have seen lists the warrior of steel as Mercuremon. THE FRONTIER DIGIMON IS NOT MERCURYMON. As for the Digimon World DS game - that is nice, but the fact that it shows that it is using Bandai names (Creepymon), as opposed to Toei names, should be a hint that the Toei name takes precedence. I cannot find any images of Neptunemon or Mercurymon appearing on cards. If you can show me an image, please do, but so far you haven't. Unless you can give cites, please change it back to at least Mercurymon (I'll let Neptunmon slide, since it did appear in Digimon World DS, but Mercurymon hasn't appeared in any English form yet.) As for the cards, aksha - I'm having trouble even finding an English Mercuremon card, and I've looked through all of the checklists. Much less finding a Neptunemon or Mercurymon card. Even in the rare event I did find it - the card game has given us such gems as Dunusmon, Beelzemon Bluster Mode, Fanglongmon, Rhihimon, Kuamon, KorIkkaumon, and so on. The cards really aren't the place to look for for dub names - either the dub itself, or the original Japanese is the best you can get, since the dub is usually closest to the original Japanese. 128.211.178.133 16:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
As for preferring Japanese - THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. I said that the only romanization that has been found (no one has brought up any others, and it definitely hasn't been released as an english card, aksha) calls it Mercurymon. Yes, that disagrees with the spelling of the Japanese - but the Japanese classification for the Power and Virtue Angels also are mixed up, but the mixed up version is the way it is presented in the translation. Mercurymon is the direct romanization that the Japanese creators decided to use - I'd like to think they may understand Japanese more than we do.
THEY DID USE メルクリィ to mean MERCURY.
The number of Digimon per article is arbitrary, just use your judgement - we don't want too many articles, but we don't want really looooooong articles either.
Currently, Champion & Ultimate have around 150 per level. Mega has more than 170. Rookie has 80-something.
Maybe it's a bit early to talk about this, but i really wonder when i came to Wendigomon. orz||
Is it too long to have 50 in a page (at last)? Should I start Part 4 or Part 3 for Wendigomon? @_@ Kennethayes 07:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually the Champions (and Ultimates), especially the older digimon like Greymon, Angemon or Angewomon are quite "bulky". Later, when there are more than 40 or 50 in a page, it would long enough.
I am not really merging the articles according to alphabetical order. I came to Wendigomon as I was dealing with the Lopmon family. But W-Wendigomon is ranking around 130 among the 145 Champions in alphabetical order, and I wonder if it is better to start the part 2 / 3 / 4 earlier. (Just to save time from correcting the redirects / internal links afterwards.)
I will be quite free from late-April to June, and then I would "waste" much time on the lists I guess. Kennethayes 19:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
i know the category page. =P but just dont want to do in order. so naughty. so i will start the other pages (and moving those Weedmon, VictoryGreymon etc). hope that you dont mind me starting the part 4 first for Wendigomon?! Kennethayes 05:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)