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Someone just added a bunch of redlink digimon to the current List of Digimon (like BioThunderbirdmon, which i'd assumn should just redirect to Thunderbirdmon?), as well as Gizumon AT and XT.
Should stuff like that be kept on the list?
Or should we just not worry about it now, since we're considering major reorganization of -mon articles anyway, and that article could be heavily affected. -- Yaksha 00:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
What is this guy doing, exactly? I think he's moving information, but I just want someone else to check. [1] -- Raijinili 02:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Just creating a new topic for discussing whether to keep all the mon articles.
If every -mon article has a seperate article, some will permanently be stubbed simply because there's nothing to say about them.
Vitual Pet only digimon
We should combine all the digimon in one digivolution line into one article. I'm talking about digimon like
Fufumon,
Popomon,
Pupumon and
Bombmon.
Armor digimon
Digimon like
Stegomon, there is simply nothing to say about them other than the fact that it's the Friendship Armor form of Patamon.
We should split the digimental article to an article for each digimental. And then combine the armor digimon into them. So an article for the Digi-Egg of Hope will include Saggitarimon, Moosemon, Sheepmon, Oryxmon, Bullmon, and perhaps even Pegasusmon. The page should also include Armor digimon that exist only in the TCG, so like Kenkimon is the Friendship Armor of Gabumon or Solarmon, and there's really nothing else to say about it. So it should go into the Digi-Egg of friendship article (although noted that it exists only in the Card Game.)
Others
Groups of Digimon like the "Olympus Twelve" need to be combined into one article. (e.g. digimon like
Marsmon and
Minervamon). For digimon that belong in one of these groups, but there is something to say about them, they should still have an entry on the group page but a link to their main -mon article (e.g.
Mercurimon.
X-Digimon
All X-Digimon articles need to be merged. I noticed there're still a lot of seperate articles for X Digimon when i was compliing the X-Digimon list on the X antibody article. FOr many of them, there's absolutely nothing to say except for the fact that they're an X version of some other digimon.
I've actually already been doing this, hopefully no one here minds.
But what do people think about the other three ideas? -- Yaksha 00:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering, should EVERY Digimon that has appeared in an anime/manga keep a distinctive article? I'm thinking of examples like Harpymon and Boarmon who played a part in one episode and/or movie but have not been seen in any other media. Shall those articles be merged into lists too, when we come up with them? And how much information about their appearances would we include in the lists?
Another thing, will there be room in these condensed Digimon articles to have images of every Digimon that has a design? Indiawilliams 18:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
We've got a lot of good ideas going so far. Here's a proposal I've been thinking about for what to do and where to go from here.
What to do
How to do it
Another idea I had was to consistently link the 'mon info with external links to some of the existing Digimon fan websites such as Wikimon or Megchan's Digimon Encyclopedia. Think of it like the IMDB links on most movie articles. I haven't been to many of these sites in a long time, so I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not.
In other words, our next step would be to get some ideas on what this will look like and figure out a good way to categorize the existing pages.
That is what I propose we do. At least that's what I can think of at the moment, no details set in stone, etc. -- Ned Scott 04:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to go set up a sub-page for this re-organising -mon articles thing. Given the huge number of articles that is going to be involved in this reorganization, we're going to need a seperate space to keep track of everything. and we should move this discussion over to talk page of the subpage so this place doesn't get filled with -mon-reorganization discussions.
Subpage at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Digimon_Systems_Update/Digimon_Article_Reorganization -- Yaksha 09:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me or are there way too many digimon that show backwards digivolutions to other digimon but that dont show any way for that digimon to have digivolved to that digimon in the first place? Shouldnt we work on cleaning up those unconfirmed backwards referneces before trying to move the articles themselves around? Sephikus 21:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
When we use Japanese (reliable) sources in articles to describe the differences between the English and Japanese version in episodes or any other behind the scenes information, what would be considered as a "reliable" translation? Unlike S-E, Toei has not provided the internation fans with translations, so what source could we call reliable for translations? — Mir l e n 01:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I came across this article, List of Digimon whose English and Japanese names differ, which went under the radar I guess. Seems like an alright idea for a list, and it would be nice to have this information in one spot. -- Ned Scott 19:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I've already started to put this in motion, and aren't done editing, but... I think the DATS article would be better serving to the project if it were changed into a catch-all article for the major and minor characters of the series, as well as for the concepts of the series, such as an elaboration of just what DATS is, and the nature of the Digivice iC, Digital World, and so on and so forth. Thoughts?
This is what I've done so far: List of Digimon Savers Characters and Concepts
Thoughts?-- Razorsaw 22:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I got an issue with this. We all know people can go too far in breaking down a subject and having too many pages. But there is also such a thing as putting too much information on an article. There are times in which an article will have so much information that it should be broken down. Digimon Savers Characters and Concepts is one of those pages. It should be at least broken into two pages. -- Eldarone 16:23, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Can we make a decision to use just one of them, even if its just arbitrary. Having "Fate/Destiny" or "Destiny/Fate" looks really...unprofessional. The digiegg is called either the digiegg of fate, or the digieg of destiny. Having both of them like this just makes it look like we're unable to make a decision. -- `/aksha 03:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
No, they just said "golden armor energize!"
74.140.118.84
21:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
The RedVdramon image seems a little suspicious. The image says it's the Bandai art of RedVedramon, but it doesn't show up when doing a google image search for "RedV-Dramon", i can't seem to find it on the internet at all. The picture looks scratchy, as if it's someone's editing.
I'm a bit tempted to replace it with the battle sprite of RedVdramon from D1 Tamers. The battle sprite is smaller, bit it's defintely the real thing.
( battle sprite and current RedVdramon picture)
What does everyone think? -- `/aksha 03:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Akatorimon's artwork is fake. But, since it is just a recolor of Kokatorimon, it looks better than a sprite, because thats all we have of him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KingBurgermon ( talk • contribs).
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Many of the Digimon pages seem to have attacks that are neither on the cards nor anywhere in the anime. One example: Neemon. He has two attacks on the cards, and never attacks at all in the anime. Many of these attacks also have no description, and, to-say, they sound different than the digimon's other attacks sound. Does anyone know if there is some other source for attacks that I am forgetting, or is it reasonable that these are fan-made attacks? In any case, they should be removed if there is not a description for them. 128.211.254.142 03:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
For a while now, we've been listing Digimon groups like the Seven Great Demon Lords and Royal Knights in the same category as "families" like Virus Busters, Nature Spirits, et all... and this is technically inaccurate. O_o Groups are a seperate category from Families listed as a special requirement on some cards, and also mentioned in profiles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Razorsaw ( talk • contribs) 04:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC).
A great many Digimon images have recently been marked as not having a fair use rationale. (see Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:Digimon media). To comply with our fair use policy these images need fair use rationales written up for them or they will be deleted in about one week from this time. We must remember that we are dealing with a great amount of copyrighted material, and in order to use these images we have to follow the policy on this.
Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If they get deleted then that's fine, we can always find them easily at a later time and re-upload them with all the required info and fair use rationales. We've got a lot of work (such as the mass 'mon article merging), and a lot of us are also busy in real life and with other Wikipedia articles. It won't be the end of the world if we can't get to them all in one week.
Here's some examples of images that have fair use rationales and a good image description page: Image:Digimon Tamers ep01.jpg, Image:Kamisama Kazoku ep03.jpg, Image:Battle Programmer Shirase.jpg. I'm not sure, but I don't think the fair use rationales have to be in this exact format, but basically some kind of message is needed that explains why the image is needed in an article and why it won't hurt the market to use the image.
Feel free to ask any questions about this. -- Ned Scott 09:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
OK, perhaps someone has answered this question already but I ask it nevertheless: When we merge all the -mon articles shouldn't we keep all the -mon articles that are not stubs anymore? As I understand if an article is not a stub anymore than it can stay and is accepted and after all there are several dozen -mon articles that are no stubs. Diabound00 12:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Digimon_layout compare to this Leormon which look better. First why heck is there Description subtitle when whole page is a description of a Digimon. Proprose 2 new categories in place it which cover areas that Description subtitle dose
Also is me does nothing noted where info that thing came from(tv series, mangama, games, cards, etc) Omagaalpha 17:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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Someone has gone and made a Demisolarmon article based on a recoloured Kapurimon which is obliviously fan art, could someone get it deleted? Nightmare SE 00:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
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Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | → | Archive 12 |
Someone just added a bunch of redlink digimon to the current List of Digimon (like BioThunderbirdmon, which i'd assumn should just redirect to Thunderbirdmon?), as well as Gizumon AT and XT.
Should stuff like that be kept on the list?
Or should we just not worry about it now, since we're considering major reorganization of -mon articles anyway, and that article could be heavily affected. -- Yaksha 00:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
What is this guy doing, exactly? I think he's moving information, but I just want someone else to check. [1] -- Raijinili 02:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Just creating a new topic for discussing whether to keep all the mon articles.
If every -mon article has a seperate article, some will permanently be stubbed simply because there's nothing to say about them.
Vitual Pet only digimon
We should combine all the digimon in one digivolution line into one article. I'm talking about digimon like
Fufumon,
Popomon,
Pupumon and
Bombmon.
Armor digimon
Digimon like
Stegomon, there is simply nothing to say about them other than the fact that it's the Friendship Armor form of Patamon.
We should split the digimental article to an article for each digimental. And then combine the armor digimon into them. So an article for the Digi-Egg of Hope will include Saggitarimon, Moosemon, Sheepmon, Oryxmon, Bullmon, and perhaps even Pegasusmon. The page should also include Armor digimon that exist only in the TCG, so like Kenkimon is the Friendship Armor of Gabumon or Solarmon, and there's really nothing else to say about it. So it should go into the Digi-Egg of friendship article (although noted that it exists only in the Card Game.)
Others
Groups of Digimon like the "Olympus Twelve" need to be combined into one article. (e.g. digimon like
Marsmon and
Minervamon). For digimon that belong in one of these groups, but there is something to say about them, they should still have an entry on the group page but a link to their main -mon article (e.g.
Mercurimon.
X-Digimon
All X-Digimon articles need to be merged. I noticed there're still a lot of seperate articles for X Digimon when i was compliing the X-Digimon list on the X antibody article. FOr many of them, there's absolutely nothing to say except for the fact that they're an X version of some other digimon.
I've actually already been doing this, hopefully no one here minds.
But what do people think about the other three ideas? -- Yaksha 00:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering, should EVERY Digimon that has appeared in an anime/manga keep a distinctive article? I'm thinking of examples like Harpymon and Boarmon who played a part in one episode and/or movie but have not been seen in any other media. Shall those articles be merged into lists too, when we come up with them? And how much information about their appearances would we include in the lists?
Another thing, will there be room in these condensed Digimon articles to have images of every Digimon that has a design? Indiawilliams 18:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
We've got a lot of good ideas going so far. Here's a proposal I've been thinking about for what to do and where to go from here.
What to do
How to do it
Another idea I had was to consistently link the 'mon info with external links to some of the existing Digimon fan websites such as Wikimon or Megchan's Digimon Encyclopedia. Think of it like the IMDB links on most movie articles. I haven't been to many of these sites in a long time, so I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not.
In other words, our next step would be to get some ideas on what this will look like and figure out a good way to categorize the existing pages.
That is what I propose we do. At least that's what I can think of at the moment, no details set in stone, etc. -- Ned Scott 04:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to go set up a sub-page for this re-organising -mon articles thing. Given the huge number of articles that is going to be involved in this reorganization, we're going to need a seperate space to keep track of everything. and we should move this discussion over to talk page of the subpage so this place doesn't get filled with -mon-reorganization discussions.
Subpage at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Digimon_Systems_Update/Digimon_Article_Reorganization -- Yaksha 09:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me or are there way too many digimon that show backwards digivolutions to other digimon but that dont show any way for that digimon to have digivolved to that digimon in the first place? Shouldnt we work on cleaning up those unconfirmed backwards referneces before trying to move the articles themselves around? Sephikus 21:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
When we use Japanese (reliable) sources in articles to describe the differences between the English and Japanese version in episodes or any other behind the scenes information, what would be considered as a "reliable" translation? Unlike S-E, Toei has not provided the internation fans with translations, so what source could we call reliable for translations? — Mir l e n 01:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I came across this article, List of Digimon whose English and Japanese names differ, which went under the radar I guess. Seems like an alright idea for a list, and it would be nice to have this information in one spot. -- Ned Scott 19:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I've already started to put this in motion, and aren't done editing, but... I think the DATS article would be better serving to the project if it were changed into a catch-all article for the major and minor characters of the series, as well as for the concepts of the series, such as an elaboration of just what DATS is, and the nature of the Digivice iC, Digital World, and so on and so forth. Thoughts?
This is what I've done so far: List of Digimon Savers Characters and Concepts
Thoughts?-- Razorsaw 22:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I got an issue with this. We all know people can go too far in breaking down a subject and having too many pages. But there is also such a thing as putting too much information on an article. There are times in which an article will have so much information that it should be broken down. Digimon Savers Characters and Concepts is one of those pages. It should be at least broken into two pages. -- Eldarone 16:23, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Can we make a decision to use just one of them, even if its just arbitrary. Having "Fate/Destiny" or "Destiny/Fate" looks really...unprofessional. The digiegg is called either the digiegg of fate, or the digieg of destiny. Having both of them like this just makes it look like we're unable to make a decision. -- `/aksha 03:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
No, they just said "golden armor energize!"
74.140.118.84
21:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
The RedVdramon image seems a little suspicious. The image says it's the Bandai art of RedVedramon, but it doesn't show up when doing a google image search for "RedV-Dramon", i can't seem to find it on the internet at all. The picture looks scratchy, as if it's someone's editing.
I'm a bit tempted to replace it with the battle sprite of RedVdramon from D1 Tamers. The battle sprite is smaller, bit it's defintely the real thing.
( battle sprite and current RedVdramon picture)
What does everyone think? -- `/aksha 03:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Akatorimon's artwork is fake. But, since it is just a recolor of Kokatorimon, it looks better than a sprite, because thats all we have of him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KingBurgermon ( talk • contribs).
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Many of the Digimon pages seem to have attacks that are neither on the cards nor anywhere in the anime. One example: Neemon. He has two attacks on the cards, and never attacks at all in the anime. Many of these attacks also have no description, and, to-say, they sound different than the digimon's other attacks sound. Does anyone know if there is some other source for attacks that I am forgetting, or is it reasonable that these are fan-made attacks? In any case, they should be removed if there is not a description for them. 128.211.254.142 03:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
For a while now, we've been listing Digimon groups like the Seven Great Demon Lords and Royal Knights in the same category as "families" like Virus Busters, Nature Spirits, et all... and this is technically inaccurate. O_o Groups are a seperate category from Families listed as a special requirement on some cards, and also mentioned in profiles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Razorsaw ( talk • contribs) 04:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC).
A great many Digimon images have recently been marked as not having a fair use rationale. (see Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:Digimon media). To comply with our fair use policy these images need fair use rationales written up for them or they will be deleted in about one week from this time. We must remember that we are dealing with a great amount of copyrighted material, and in order to use these images we have to follow the policy on this.
Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If they get deleted then that's fine, we can always find them easily at a later time and re-upload them with all the required info and fair use rationales. We've got a lot of work (such as the mass 'mon article merging), and a lot of us are also busy in real life and with other Wikipedia articles. It won't be the end of the world if we can't get to them all in one week.
Here's some examples of images that have fair use rationales and a good image description page: Image:Digimon Tamers ep01.jpg, Image:Kamisama Kazoku ep03.jpg, Image:Battle Programmer Shirase.jpg. I'm not sure, but I don't think the fair use rationales have to be in this exact format, but basically some kind of message is needed that explains why the image is needed in an article and why it won't hurt the market to use the image.
Feel free to ask any questions about this. -- Ned Scott 09:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
OK, perhaps someone has answered this question already but I ask it nevertheless: When we merge all the -mon articles shouldn't we keep all the -mon articles that are not stubs anymore? As I understand if an article is not a stub anymore than it can stay and is accepted and after all there are several dozen -mon articles that are no stubs. Diabound00 12:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Digimon_layout compare to this Leormon which look better. First why heck is there Description subtitle when whole page is a description of a Digimon. Proprose 2 new categories in place it which cover areas that Description subtitle dose
Also is me does nothing noted where info that thing came from(tv series, mangama, games, cards, etc) Omagaalpha 17:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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Someone has gone and made a Demisolarmon article based on a recoloured Kapurimon which is obliviously fan art, could someone get it deleted? Nightmare SE 00:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)