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A student asks at the ref desk for online sources to further her studies of anarchism. Can anyone help out? Skomorokh 03:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey folks,
I've been working on a page for Post-Colonial Anarchism (anarchism from the perspective of colonized peoples as opposed to from the perspective of western proletarians). Right now it's at User:Anarchocelt/Post Colonial Anarchism. If ya'll could give it a look and help flesh it out that would be great. sources include http://illvox.org/articles/, a lot of stuff from anarchismo, jailbreakpress.org, http://celticanarchy.org/, and others. as well as a lot of books (illvox has the full text for a lot of books). I'd just go ahead and create the page, but I don't want to deal with it getting deleted because some class reductionist doesn't think it's relevant so I want to get it fleshed out more before moving it to wikipedia proper. thanks Anarchocelt ( talk) 04:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Anna Quist has been posting prolificly about various mysterious anarchist organizations such as The Anarchist International and "GREEN ANARCHIST INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION" without reliable sources. Does anyone have any idea if these guys are actually a noteworthy anarcha-faction? I think Anna Quist posts on Anarchism.net, but aside from that I have no knowledge of this business and am not sure if we should be helping with references and saving the content from removal or banning her as a troll. Any ideas? Skomorokh 06:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
To my knowledge she is either a troll, or a very confused and lonely individual. Once thing she isn't, is a member of the fictional organisation AI (who I believe have already had their wiki page deleted) Lostsocks ( talk) 11:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Yepp, Anna Quist is a pain of disastrous proportions. Lord Metroid ( talk) 17:28, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I learned of this Anarchist International group several years ago, and correctly disregarded them as a fringe organization with little actual political clout. How little I realized. I had no conception that their fringe behavior was this extreme. I can only be glad that I've known better than to recommend their website to those curious about anarchism. Is there some precedent the task force should follow regarding this besides going to administration and complaining about specific users? I don't know what most wikiprojects do when they encounter hoax pushers.-- Cast ( talk) 00:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Glad to see there's support for this. I've created the beginnings of a guide at WP:ANCITE (anarchism citation...rhymes with incite, like a riot, which is what anarchism is all about according to the reliable sources, get it?). I'd appreciate if you all held off from editing it for next half an hour or so while I research how to write one of these things so that they will look credible to GA/FA/AFD reviewers. Go wild on the talkpage for now, and input is enthusiastically encouraged once I've figured out the formatting etc. Solidarity, Skomorokh 19:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC) OK, good to go, please add your expertise where possible.
I watched the critique from brainpolice, Re: Chomsky vs. porn junkies. Wouldn't it be misleading to the readers of wikipedia to say Chomsky is an anarchist when he is obviously not anarchist by when he allegedly promotes statism. Wouldn't it be better to say something like "known as anarchist but..." or something instead of as it says now in the first paragraph in Noam Chomsky, "he has become known more widely as a political activist, an anarchist[3], and a libertarian socialist intellectual." Lord Metroid ( talk) 18:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Left-libertarian/anarchist scholar Roderick Long has an interesting article up here critiquing Chomsky's anarchism, which might be of interest. the skomorokh 19:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
The article on Proudhon's famous slogan " property is theft!" is fully-protected to prevent an edit war about including a section which discusses its apparent literal contradiction (how can property be theft when theft presupposes property etc.). I'm trying to get outside involvement on the matter if anyone would care to join in. Skomorokh 16:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
There's a dormant discussion on Allixpeeke ( talk · contribs)'s proposal to restyle {{ Anarchism sidebar}} here. I'd like to implement Allix's version, but wanted to notify the task force as this will effect most of our pages. Skomorokh 00:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone identify who ne:अ.यु. गे, a Russian anarchist who died in 1919, is? The original source doesn't give the name in Latin or Cyrillic character, the Devanagari name is sortof 'A. U. Ge'. -- Soman ( talk) 06:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Yo compadres, our article on individualist anarchism is rather good, and I'm hoping to have it reach featured status (after WP:GA of course), but it would help a lot if I had some help from others. Specifically, although the references look reliable, the formatting is inconsistent and messy; I could use help converting and expanding them using {{ cite book}} {{ cite journal}} and so on. I've been thinking about sending around a little note from the taskforce each month with little updates, as most of our members are infrequent contributors and might benefit from some reminding of our works in progress etc. I think Cast has raised the idea before, but what do people think of a collaboration of the month, and individualist anarchism as our first? Skomorokh 12:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Some of you will have noticed an user claiming that the International of Anarchist Federations is just the "southern" section of the IAF, and claiming that his organization is the northern part, that they have an international tribunal of anarchism, and some other stuff. She is now inserting that information on the IAF article. This is related to the "Anna Quist: making shit up?" section on this same page.
I have opened a RfC about the reliability of that source. Please participate there in order to stop this silliness going on at anarchism-related articles. -- Enric Naval ( talk) 14:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I've reported her at the ANB. Hopefully this will put an end to this lunacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#User:Anna_Quist Zazaban ( talk) 22:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm Spanish, and I've seen that they are a couple of articles in the project page about spanish/latin american anarchists needing translation. I don't really know how the bureaucracy works, so should I simply start translating them or do I have to ask someone? Randomlychaotic ( talk) 17:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I've translated the article about Pistolerismo, which was a struggle between spanish employers and syndicalists, but not exclusively anarcho-syndicalists. Given that, should it be included in this wikiproject or is it too broad to be classified as an article about "anarchism"? Randomlychaotic ( talk) 01:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that it would be more sensible to have a Libertarianism WikiProject and put anarcho-capitalist content under that, than to have the anarcho-capitalist content under the Anarchism WikiProject. Reason being, anarcho-capitalism is really just the most extreme point on the spectrum of libertarianism, whereas it is a totally different philosophy from most other forms of anarchism. Anarcho-capitalism has a lot more commonalities with minarchism, for instance, than with anarcho-syndicalism. Also, many leading anarcho-capitalists, such as Murray Rothbard, worked within the Libertarian Party; and under the Dallas Accord the LP sought to be a big tent that would include both minarchists and anarcho-capitalists. EVCM ( talk) 17:54, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Anarchist perspectives on revolution should be a priority right now. There are diverse opinions on revolution within anarchism, something that wikipedia does not really cover as it is. In fact, most people seem to think that anarchists universally support violent/armed revolution. Zazaban ( talk) 23:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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This mysterious request recently surfaced on my talkpage.
Please help me to read more on these topics and perhaps send me a newletter ar letter of some local minds loke mine, who seem to be searching for more enlightenment on this subject. My email address is Pennyds1@aol.com Will someoe please send me literaure and/or a list of local itineraries concrning my search for knowledge? I am a 38 yo person, am tired of the injustices our country seems to give a shit less about. Freedom is a thing of he past anymore.
I fear as a modest encyclopaedian this is not really my thing. Can any anarcho-taskforcians suggest a course of action? Supplementary info: the I.P. address resolves to the United States, though the seeker does not seem a native speaker. Gracias, the skomorokh 11:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Since the list of anarchists article was deleted on the grounds of poor referencing, a few of us have been working on a sandboxed version at User:SwitChar/Anarchlist, building it back up from scratch with rigourous referencing. The problem is that we are few, and the putative anarchists we need to vet and find references for are many. We could really use some extra hands sorting through the potential additions here here, finding references for their being anarchists and adding their names with a brief description to the sandboxed version. If you could help, it would be really appreciated. Sincerely, the skomorokh 15:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Origins_of_Democracy_Project
It was not a hoax but I don't know if it merits the "notable academic project" appelation. It's a small but IMO significant trend within the modern anarchist movement which is itself small, mostly underground and quite a bit of the culture of which is luddite and doesn't publish online. Some people are interested in anarchist theory and ongoing trends, not all of which are encompassed by the more well known public anarchist periodicals. In fact it could be argued that there is an artificial skewing of coverage of this topic due to the fact that certain groups within that movement tend to be more active online, wheras others for whatever reasons prefer not to be.
The page which was deleted didn't give a very good overview of the project, as I hadn't had time to really work on it, but it's a real thing, I wish it hadn't been deleted.
I'm trying to get permission to post some of their research material online which was published in underground zines, and even scan some of the zines, but I don't want to do that if the authors don't like the idea, though I don't see why they wouldn't. From what I understand it is an ongoing effort on the part of several anarchists and some academics who may prefer to remain anonymous- to revive Kropotkins idea of examining History to find examples of democratic societies. They seem to have done a lot of good research, I think more people should know about the project, as it has implications for the future of the movement. It is sort of a return to methods which hadn't been looked at seriously since the 19th century as far as I can tell.
Does wikipedia not want to include articles about people who themselves don't publish online?
Drifter bob ( talk) 15:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Whassup Folks,
I'm AltCtrlDel from southern Brazil, and one of the responsibles for the Portal da Anarquia (Anarchy's Portal) in Wikipedia-PT. I'm here to ask your help in one source problem. Some guy want to delete Flavio Costantini's images from the Commons. Just uploaded that images to ilustrate Ravachol, Jules Bonnot, and others articles thinking that they aren't copyrighted. But now this guy came with a page license... well. You all can see his deletion request. What we can do?! Could we contact the responsible for that page? That's no possibility to create a anarchist license or something like that?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Flavio_Costantini_images
salud y libertad!!
AltCtrlDel ( talk) 23:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.120.0.63 ( talk)
Heya, I'm new here and my article on Bruno Masse, local Montreal anarchist author / researcher is under threat of deletion. I really need help here, it would be a shame to lose this one. Please go vote and spread the word!! You can vote [ | here]. In solidarity! Lkeryl ( talk) 18:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
The sheer number of new articles lately is phenomenal! Now I've decided to finally get to work on Egoist anarchism. A draft will probably pop up on my namespace within the next few days. Zazaban ( talk) 23:32, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
We are nearly done at User:Zazaban/Egoist anarchism, and it would be great if anyone could contribute ANYTHING. The property section needs some sourcing, and I feel that we maybe should have a section on egoism's unique take on morality. Zazaban ( talk) 01:58, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I've started a topic on the Anarchism Open Task template talk page to discuss the purpose of the list. It is my contention that the Open Task template's current form is becoming obsolete. With the advent of the Anarchism Task Force as a centralized location for discussing improvement to anarchism coverage on Wikipedia, and with the creation of an automated cleanup list, there simply isn't much purpose for the template as it stands. However, I can see how it may still be useful, and so it's time we consider what to do with it. -- Cast ( talk) 17:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
For a few months now, I've been thinking about giving our main task force page a new look. Why? Well, at my most simplified and superficial, I want the page to look aesthetically pleasing. To elaborate, I want the page to be immediately accessible to new users. I first noticed a few months ago that the page was exceptionally long, with long "list" sections for participants, 1.0 editorial team choices, and templates. The huge eye-sore that was the Open Task list wasn't helping at all, either. I began using collapsible windows for the open tasks, columns for the lists, and tables for the templates in a futile effort to compress all of the data. What I ideally wanted was the page to be accessible with a minimum of scrolling, which even the contents window wasn't able to help out with. I've recently entertained myself while fiddling around with added coding to columns, as if surreptitiously creating a portal. I stopped myself when I realized that the increasing complexity of the page would act as an obstacle for editors, new and old alike. I also knew that if sub-pages proliferated, it would become increasingly difficult to monitor changes made. Case in point, I've just updated the list of Good articles to include the promoted Manifesto of the Sixteen, but anyone watching the main page wouldn't have noticed it. Previously the page was long and cluttered, but it was easy to monitor and edit. However, I'm reluctant to undue my work — in principle. I'd like to move the task force forward; not back. So with the one-year anniversary (Dec. 13) of the task force almost here, I've created a sandbox for myself to toy with. I invite anyone to participate in figuring out how to:
So this is what I'll be aiming for in the sandbox. Don't know what will come of it, but hopefully it'll be something useful. As of this posting, I've got about ten days left before the anniversary. What do you think of this project? Worth our while, or trivial? Ultimately, I'll be first to admit that so long as the task force continues to crank out FAs and GAs, it doesn't matter what the page looks like. Sometimes less is more.-- Cast ( talk) 06:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I've continued to work on the project for a possible renovation of the ATF page. Consider taking another look at it now. New changes include that the vast majority of sections are now transcluded from subpages, to reduce to amount of coding one would dig through on an edit page. As a possible result of this, it becomes feasible to place whole sections of the main page into independent pages and include them in a tabbed format. This is basically what WikiProject Philosophy currently uses. This design has the advantage that each subsequent section would be short enough that a minimal amount of scrolling is necessary to navigate through a page. Any web designer will tell you it is best to have the key elements of a webpage on the section the viewer will first see without having to scroll down. That is why I put such a high prominence on that aspect of the page. However, this tabbed design means at least two pages will need to be actively watched: the main page, which itself will not change, but is tied to the ATF talk page; and the current projects page, which will be the work space of the project, and will change the most rapidly. There is, however, an option available to us that would make this tabbed design work with the need to only watch a single page. That would be that we redirect this talk page to the current project/priority talk page, and centralize all discussion there. The talk page for the work station then becomes the primary arena for discussing the work which is done concerning this task force. I present these ideas to you for your consideration. With my personal deadline of the 13th almost upon us, I do hope you are all happy with any of the above options. -- Cast ( talk) 08:22, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
to deal with this deletion? Murderbike ( talk) 01:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Don't know if y'all have been paying attention or not, but the talk page at 2008 Greek riots is pretty hot, and the article under protection now. Murderbike ( talk) 22:22, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I've stayed away from this article because I haven't come across much in the way of reliable sources that discuss the anarchist dimension to the whole thing. Anyone seen any? Skomorokh 01:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
On the Workstation page, it said " Iain McKay - An Anarchist FAQ chief author; is this the same hombre as Ian McKay (historian)?" - it's not. Ian is a Canadian historian, and Iain is a Scottish anarchist that used to edit Black Flag. I just deleted it from the page as I'm not really sure of the procedure (I'm new to all this!) - was that the right thing to do? SetaLyas ( talk) 20:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Over at User:Zazaban/Egoist anarchism we are nearly done- all we need are a few more sources, many from The Ego and Its Own. We could use some help, so if anyone can spare the time, that would be great. Zazaban ( talk) 02:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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A student asks at the ref desk for online sources to further her studies of anarchism. Can anyone help out? Skomorokh 03:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey folks,
I've been working on a page for Post-Colonial Anarchism (anarchism from the perspective of colonized peoples as opposed to from the perspective of western proletarians). Right now it's at User:Anarchocelt/Post Colonial Anarchism. If ya'll could give it a look and help flesh it out that would be great. sources include http://illvox.org/articles/, a lot of stuff from anarchismo, jailbreakpress.org, http://celticanarchy.org/, and others. as well as a lot of books (illvox has the full text for a lot of books). I'd just go ahead and create the page, but I don't want to deal with it getting deleted because some class reductionist doesn't think it's relevant so I want to get it fleshed out more before moving it to wikipedia proper. thanks Anarchocelt ( talk) 04:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Anna Quist has been posting prolificly about various mysterious anarchist organizations such as The Anarchist International and "GREEN ANARCHIST INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION" without reliable sources. Does anyone have any idea if these guys are actually a noteworthy anarcha-faction? I think Anna Quist posts on Anarchism.net, but aside from that I have no knowledge of this business and am not sure if we should be helping with references and saving the content from removal or banning her as a troll. Any ideas? Skomorokh 06:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
To my knowledge she is either a troll, or a very confused and lonely individual. Once thing she isn't, is a member of the fictional organisation AI (who I believe have already had their wiki page deleted) Lostsocks ( talk) 11:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Yepp, Anna Quist is a pain of disastrous proportions. Lord Metroid ( talk) 17:28, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I learned of this Anarchist International group several years ago, and correctly disregarded them as a fringe organization with little actual political clout. How little I realized. I had no conception that their fringe behavior was this extreme. I can only be glad that I've known better than to recommend their website to those curious about anarchism. Is there some precedent the task force should follow regarding this besides going to administration and complaining about specific users? I don't know what most wikiprojects do when they encounter hoax pushers.-- Cast ( talk) 00:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Glad to see there's support for this. I've created the beginnings of a guide at WP:ANCITE (anarchism citation...rhymes with incite, like a riot, which is what anarchism is all about according to the reliable sources, get it?). I'd appreciate if you all held off from editing it for next half an hour or so while I research how to write one of these things so that they will look credible to GA/FA/AFD reviewers. Go wild on the talkpage for now, and input is enthusiastically encouraged once I've figured out the formatting etc. Solidarity, Skomorokh 19:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC) OK, good to go, please add your expertise where possible.
I watched the critique from brainpolice, Re: Chomsky vs. porn junkies. Wouldn't it be misleading to the readers of wikipedia to say Chomsky is an anarchist when he is obviously not anarchist by when he allegedly promotes statism. Wouldn't it be better to say something like "known as anarchist but..." or something instead of as it says now in the first paragraph in Noam Chomsky, "he has become known more widely as a political activist, an anarchist[3], and a libertarian socialist intellectual." Lord Metroid ( talk) 18:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Left-libertarian/anarchist scholar Roderick Long has an interesting article up here critiquing Chomsky's anarchism, which might be of interest. the skomorokh 19:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
The article on Proudhon's famous slogan " property is theft!" is fully-protected to prevent an edit war about including a section which discusses its apparent literal contradiction (how can property be theft when theft presupposes property etc.). I'm trying to get outside involvement on the matter if anyone would care to join in. Skomorokh 16:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
There's a dormant discussion on Allixpeeke ( talk · contribs)'s proposal to restyle {{ Anarchism sidebar}} here. I'd like to implement Allix's version, but wanted to notify the task force as this will effect most of our pages. Skomorokh 00:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone identify who ne:अ.यु. गे, a Russian anarchist who died in 1919, is? The original source doesn't give the name in Latin or Cyrillic character, the Devanagari name is sortof 'A. U. Ge'. -- Soman ( talk) 06:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Yo compadres, our article on individualist anarchism is rather good, and I'm hoping to have it reach featured status (after WP:GA of course), but it would help a lot if I had some help from others. Specifically, although the references look reliable, the formatting is inconsistent and messy; I could use help converting and expanding them using {{ cite book}} {{ cite journal}} and so on. I've been thinking about sending around a little note from the taskforce each month with little updates, as most of our members are infrequent contributors and might benefit from some reminding of our works in progress etc. I think Cast has raised the idea before, but what do people think of a collaboration of the month, and individualist anarchism as our first? Skomorokh 12:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Some of you will have noticed an user claiming that the International of Anarchist Federations is just the "southern" section of the IAF, and claiming that his organization is the northern part, that they have an international tribunal of anarchism, and some other stuff. She is now inserting that information on the IAF article. This is related to the "Anna Quist: making shit up?" section on this same page.
I have opened a RfC about the reliability of that source. Please participate there in order to stop this silliness going on at anarchism-related articles. -- Enric Naval ( talk) 14:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I've reported her at the ANB. Hopefully this will put an end to this lunacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#User:Anna_Quist Zazaban ( talk) 22:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm Spanish, and I've seen that they are a couple of articles in the project page about spanish/latin american anarchists needing translation. I don't really know how the bureaucracy works, so should I simply start translating them or do I have to ask someone? Randomlychaotic ( talk) 17:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I've translated the article about Pistolerismo, which was a struggle between spanish employers and syndicalists, but not exclusively anarcho-syndicalists. Given that, should it be included in this wikiproject or is it too broad to be classified as an article about "anarchism"? Randomlychaotic ( talk) 01:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that it would be more sensible to have a Libertarianism WikiProject and put anarcho-capitalist content under that, than to have the anarcho-capitalist content under the Anarchism WikiProject. Reason being, anarcho-capitalism is really just the most extreme point on the spectrum of libertarianism, whereas it is a totally different philosophy from most other forms of anarchism. Anarcho-capitalism has a lot more commonalities with minarchism, for instance, than with anarcho-syndicalism. Also, many leading anarcho-capitalists, such as Murray Rothbard, worked within the Libertarian Party; and under the Dallas Accord the LP sought to be a big tent that would include both minarchists and anarcho-capitalists. EVCM ( talk) 17:54, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Anarchist perspectives on revolution should be a priority right now. There are diverse opinions on revolution within anarchism, something that wikipedia does not really cover as it is. In fact, most people seem to think that anarchists universally support violent/armed revolution. Zazaban ( talk) 23:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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This mysterious request recently surfaced on my talkpage.
Please help me to read more on these topics and perhaps send me a newletter ar letter of some local minds loke mine, who seem to be searching for more enlightenment on this subject. My email address is Pennyds1@aol.com Will someoe please send me literaure and/or a list of local itineraries concrning my search for knowledge? I am a 38 yo person, am tired of the injustices our country seems to give a shit less about. Freedom is a thing of he past anymore.
I fear as a modest encyclopaedian this is not really my thing. Can any anarcho-taskforcians suggest a course of action? Supplementary info: the I.P. address resolves to the United States, though the seeker does not seem a native speaker. Gracias, the skomorokh 11:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Since the list of anarchists article was deleted on the grounds of poor referencing, a few of us have been working on a sandboxed version at User:SwitChar/Anarchlist, building it back up from scratch with rigourous referencing. The problem is that we are few, and the putative anarchists we need to vet and find references for are many. We could really use some extra hands sorting through the potential additions here here, finding references for their being anarchists and adding their names with a brief description to the sandboxed version. If you could help, it would be really appreciated. Sincerely, the skomorokh 15:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Origins_of_Democracy_Project
It was not a hoax but I don't know if it merits the "notable academic project" appelation. It's a small but IMO significant trend within the modern anarchist movement which is itself small, mostly underground and quite a bit of the culture of which is luddite and doesn't publish online. Some people are interested in anarchist theory and ongoing trends, not all of which are encompassed by the more well known public anarchist periodicals. In fact it could be argued that there is an artificial skewing of coverage of this topic due to the fact that certain groups within that movement tend to be more active online, wheras others for whatever reasons prefer not to be.
The page which was deleted didn't give a very good overview of the project, as I hadn't had time to really work on it, but it's a real thing, I wish it hadn't been deleted.
I'm trying to get permission to post some of their research material online which was published in underground zines, and even scan some of the zines, but I don't want to do that if the authors don't like the idea, though I don't see why they wouldn't. From what I understand it is an ongoing effort on the part of several anarchists and some academics who may prefer to remain anonymous- to revive Kropotkins idea of examining History to find examples of democratic societies. They seem to have done a lot of good research, I think more people should know about the project, as it has implications for the future of the movement. It is sort of a return to methods which hadn't been looked at seriously since the 19th century as far as I can tell.
Does wikipedia not want to include articles about people who themselves don't publish online?
Drifter bob ( talk) 15:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Whassup Folks,
I'm AltCtrlDel from southern Brazil, and one of the responsibles for the Portal da Anarquia (Anarchy's Portal) in Wikipedia-PT. I'm here to ask your help in one source problem. Some guy want to delete Flavio Costantini's images from the Commons. Just uploaded that images to ilustrate Ravachol, Jules Bonnot, and others articles thinking that they aren't copyrighted. But now this guy came with a page license... well. You all can see his deletion request. What we can do?! Could we contact the responsible for that page? That's no possibility to create a anarchist license or something like that?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Flavio_Costantini_images
salud y libertad!!
AltCtrlDel ( talk) 23:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.120.0.63 ( talk)
Heya, I'm new here and my article on Bruno Masse, local Montreal anarchist author / researcher is under threat of deletion. I really need help here, it would be a shame to lose this one. Please go vote and spread the word!! You can vote [ | here]. In solidarity! Lkeryl ( talk) 18:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
The sheer number of new articles lately is phenomenal! Now I've decided to finally get to work on Egoist anarchism. A draft will probably pop up on my namespace within the next few days. Zazaban ( talk) 23:32, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
We are nearly done at User:Zazaban/Egoist anarchism, and it would be great if anyone could contribute ANYTHING. The property section needs some sourcing, and I feel that we maybe should have a section on egoism's unique take on morality. Zazaban ( talk) 01:58, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I've started a topic on the Anarchism Open Task template talk page to discuss the purpose of the list. It is my contention that the Open Task template's current form is becoming obsolete. With the advent of the Anarchism Task Force as a centralized location for discussing improvement to anarchism coverage on Wikipedia, and with the creation of an automated cleanup list, there simply isn't much purpose for the template as it stands. However, I can see how it may still be useful, and so it's time we consider what to do with it. -- Cast ( talk) 17:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
For a few months now, I've been thinking about giving our main task force page a new look. Why? Well, at my most simplified and superficial, I want the page to look aesthetically pleasing. To elaborate, I want the page to be immediately accessible to new users. I first noticed a few months ago that the page was exceptionally long, with long "list" sections for participants, 1.0 editorial team choices, and templates. The huge eye-sore that was the Open Task list wasn't helping at all, either. I began using collapsible windows for the open tasks, columns for the lists, and tables for the templates in a futile effort to compress all of the data. What I ideally wanted was the page to be accessible with a minimum of scrolling, which even the contents window wasn't able to help out with. I've recently entertained myself while fiddling around with added coding to columns, as if surreptitiously creating a portal. I stopped myself when I realized that the increasing complexity of the page would act as an obstacle for editors, new and old alike. I also knew that if sub-pages proliferated, it would become increasingly difficult to monitor changes made. Case in point, I've just updated the list of Good articles to include the promoted Manifesto of the Sixteen, but anyone watching the main page wouldn't have noticed it. Previously the page was long and cluttered, but it was easy to monitor and edit. However, I'm reluctant to undue my work — in principle. I'd like to move the task force forward; not back. So with the one-year anniversary (Dec. 13) of the task force almost here, I've created a sandbox for myself to toy with. I invite anyone to participate in figuring out how to:
So this is what I'll be aiming for in the sandbox. Don't know what will come of it, but hopefully it'll be something useful. As of this posting, I've got about ten days left before the anniversary. What do you think of this project? Worth our while, or trivial? Ultimately, I'll be first to admit that so long as the task force continues to crank out FAs and GAs, it doesn't matter what the page looks like. Sometimes less is more.-- Cast ( talk) 06:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I've continued to work on the project for a possible renovation of the ATF page. Consider taking another look at it now. New changes include that the vast majority of sections are now transcluded from subpages, to reduce to amount of coding one would dig through on an edit page. As a possible result of this, it becomes feasible to place whole sections of the main page into independent pages and include them in a tabbed format. This is basically what WikiProject Philosophy currently uses. This design has the advantage that each subsequent section would be short enough that a minimal amount of scrolling is necessary to navigate through a page. Any web designer will tell you it is best to have the key elements of a webpage on the section the viewer will first see without having to scroll down. That is why I put such a high prominence on that aspect of the page. However, this tabbed design means at least two pages will need to be actively watched: the main page, which itself will not change, but is tied to the ATF talk page; and the current projects page, which will be the work space of the project, and will change the most rapidly. There is, however, an option available to us that would make this tabbed design work with the need to only watch a single page. That would be that we redirect this talk page to the current project/priority talk page, and centralize all discussion there. The talk page for the work station then becomes the primary arena for discussing the work which is done concerning this task force. I present these ideas to you for your consideration. With my personal deadline of the 13th almost upon us, I do hope you are all happy with any of the above options. -- Cast ( talk) 08:22, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
to deal with this deletion? Murderbike ( talk) 01:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Don't know if y'all have been paying attention or not, but the talk page at 2008 Greek riots is pretty hot, and the article under protection now. Murderbike ( talk) 22:22, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I've stayed away from this article because I haven't come across much in the way of reliable sources that discuss the anarchist dimension to the whole thing. Anyone seen any? Skomorokh 01:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
On the Workstation page, it said " Iain McKay - An Anarchist FAQ chief author; is this the same hombre as Ian McKay (historian)?" - it's not. Ian is a Canadian historian, and Iain is a Scottish anarchist that used to edit Black Flag. I just deleted it from the page as I'm not really sure of the procedure (I'm new to all this!) - was that the right thing to do? SetaLyas ( talk) 20:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Over at User:Zazaban/Egoist anarchism we are nearly done- all we need are a few more sources, many from The Ego and Its Own. We could use some help, so if anyone can spare the time, that would be great. Zazaban ( talk) 02:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)