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As well, we can add the task list from Portal:Anarchism to that open task template, somehow, I've gotta run, i'll probably check in tonight, but otherwise won't really be around til monday or tuesday. Murderbike ( talk) 17:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
This may seem utterly silly, but I've noticed that various wiki projects have have special Barnstar awards to provide editors with. Now, this isn't an official Wikiproject, but a task force could share some love too. To that end, I quickly edited together this small Anarchik Star, for use in awarding editors who make substantial improvements to anarchist related articles, or just because you feel like it. (Anarchik shows solidarity with all comrades!)
If you're unaware, Anarchik is a cartoon parody of us ol' anarchists, created by Roberto Ambrosoli. There's a series of comics with him in which he shows solidarity with historic anarchist events, and gives the ruling classes hell. For example, here we see him taking up arms with the anarchists in the Kronstadt rebellion, and here he shakes hands with Nestor Makhno. You can find out more about the character here, assuming you can read Italian.
I attempted to add a little burning fuse to the globe, but it didn't work well. No reason we can't have a sense of humor, right? Anyway, tell me what you think, or make your own. If enough people like it, we can upload it after we've made the anarchism task force official.-- Cast ( talk) 21:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
In un momento segnato dalla ricorrente presenza di altre bombe, non anarchiche e assolutamente non umanitarie l’uso di un simile strumento per scopi ludici appare inopportuno.
Aumenta invece la presenza dell’uomo nero fuori delle vignette dei fumetti, ad accompagnare con la sola immagine il testo di articoli, di volantini, di manifesti, diventando una sorta di logo dell’area militante frequentata dai suoi genitori più o meno ufficiali, ripreso occasionalmente da altre aree del movimento anarchico, non solo italiano. In conseguenza di ciò compaiono in giro anche alcuni “falsi”, di cui il disegnatore ama segnalare con pignoleria, in privato, le difformità dall’originale, pur riconoscendo benevolmente le buone intenzioni (grafiche e politiche) dei falsari.
Così, per mantenere un minimo controllo “morale” sull’evoluzione morfologica della sua creatura, il disegnatore ricorre a volte all’espediente di aggiungere accanto al nome o a uno svolazzo del mantello un cerchietto con la c di un inesistente copyright, invito sottinteso a una falsificazione libera ma rispettosa.
At a time marked by the applicant presence of other bombs, not anarchic and absolutely no humanitarian use of such a tool for recreational purposes is inappropriate.
Instead Increase the presence of black out cartoons of cartoons, to accompany the single image with the text of articles, handouts, posters, becoming a sort of logo of the militant attended by his parents more or less official taken occasionally from other parts of the anarchist movement, not only Italian. As a result appear around some "false", which the designer likes to point out with strictness, in private, the differences from the original, while acknowledging the good intentions benevolently (graphics and policies) of counterfeiters.
Thus, to maintain a minimum control "morality" on its morphological creature, the designer uses times all'espediente to add next to the name or a svolazzo mantle a circle with a non-existent c copyright understood invitation to a counterfeiting free but respectful.
This user is
a member of the Anarchism WikiProject. |
The userbox design has been chosen: White and the Black Flag
I'm partial to the color black. Since the
Anarchism template already uses the circle-a, I'd like to use a different image. Perhaps the Black Star.--
Cast (
talk) 21:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Just enlarged the images. Does this change look better? And now that we can see what the links look like, I think blue against a light gray and black doesn't work, and dark gray is even worst. I'm changing my vote to white. I still like the black star, but the flag seems to be the favorite.-- Cast ( talk) 03:05, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Since the project is now underway, and not many people seem to be voting, I'm going to close this at this point. A white background with the black flag. If anyone wants to change it in the future, they can bring it up again here, or be bold. And as Murderbike has shown, customization is always an option.-- Cast ( talk) 06:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
User:Gregbard responded over here about the proposal. Murderbike ( talk) 00:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, should have posted this here on nomination. Skomorokh incite 16:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Should we have a section for posting new articles? I just "finished" John Turner (anarchist), if anyone wants to check it out and make it even better. Oh, does anyone happen to have a copy of The Guillotine at Work by Gregori Maximoff? Murderbike ( talk) 01:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I thank Skomorokh for the invitation to help out with this project. I can't say how active I will be, or even how useful I will be even if I am active. One thing I would like to do if I ever make the time is work on the Voluntaryism page. Allixpeeke ( talk) 04:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I've added an Afd section for current priorities on the taskforce page and also nominated ethical anarchism for deletion. Skomorokh incite 15:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
This article is a hangover from the pov-warring bad old days. I'm highly tempted to simply redirect to Social anarchism but I thought I'd bring it to the taskforce's attention to see if anyone feels there's something worth salvaging. Skomorokh incite 17:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
This is a set of distinctions we could probably tuck into Definitional concerns in anarchist theory, which was designed as a place we could acknowledge all the differences of vocabulary and the like. As it is, left anarchism really only perpetuates some basic misunderstandings. We should probably do our best to avoid terms like "mainstream anarchism," which are just edit-war bait, and perhaps even "classical anarchism," which has become a dimissive label. Certainly, we need to avoid generalizations that imply that market anarchism, which includes mutualism, is reducible to anarcho-capitalism. Agorists are, after all, among those most enthusiastically embracing the term "left" at the moment. Libertatia ( talk) 19:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
... is up for Featured Article, though I can't figure out where that happens. Murderbike ( talk) 20:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
So, in looking at this article, I noticed that a)it's not referenced at all with inline cites, and b)it's got this weird footnotes section, which I've never seen in a Wikipedia article. So, I started adding a couple of references, and switched a couple footnotes to refs, but I don't really have enough time in the near future (Christmas, then traveling for a month) to do a thorough job of fixing this up. So I was thinking, that if anyone needs a project to work on, and has a bunch of books laying around that would be citeable, adding inline cites would be great, and figuring out if that footnotes section can just take a hike would be double awesome. Murderbike ( talk) 23:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Anybody ever heard of this? After tons of different searches in google books and google regular, I can't find anything confirming the info in this article except a weird anti-"reds" website. Anybody got info on this group? Murderbike ( talk) 07:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
A while back, before the foundation of this taskforce, I added the CrimethInc. article to Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy, rating it as low importance for philosophy as the philosophy of CrimethInc. is marginal and less than highly regarded by academic philosophers to say the least. Today, Murderbike added the anarchism=yes parameter to the article and re-rated it as Mid importance, arguing that as the foremost publisher of anarchist propoganda today, CrimethInc. was quite important to anarchism. Similarly, Max Stirner is a marginal figure in the philosophical canon - there are few if any university courses devoted to his philosophy - but significantly influential to the history of anarchist thought. A similar problem exists for the currently-Mid-rated John Zerzan.
We need to decide if we're going to rate anarchism-related articles purely on the basis of their importance to anarchism, thereby screwing up the Philosophy assessment program (Stirner of equal importance to Wittgenstein) or rate them on the basis of their importance to philosophy more broadly (thus rendering Black Bloc, market anarchism, Infoshop and the Haymarket Riot of negligible "low" importance). Ideas? Skomorokh incite 14:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Practically every article in Category:Anarchist publications is a periodical. Would anybody object if I create a sub-category Category:Anarchist periodicals (similar to Category:Books about anarchism, Category:Anarchist fiction, etc.) and move the periodicals to the new sub-cat? — Malik Shabazz ( talk · contribs) 18:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
OK, so having Emma Goldman reach FA status really excites me, and really motivates me to try to get other anarchism-related articles up to higher status. Particularly, I feel like Confederación Nacional del Trabajo and Alexander Berkman have good potential for becoming at least Good Articles. They both have tons of sources to draw from, and good solid foundations to work with (CNT was a featured article on Spanish Wikipedia, though it's translation was a bit sloppy). These two articles are probably what I'll be spending much of the near future working on, though I'd love some help, as I know my writing isn't the greatest. So, if anyone feels like collaborating on a project like this, feel free! Murderbike ( talk) 00:34, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll be happy to help with the Rocker article, and have requested the Graur book from the library. I will also probably return working on the Josiah Warren article, and would welcome any help. If you look back in the history a bit, I had outlined the major periods of his life, but was interrupted before I could get the thing written. His is a case where a tremendous amount of the reference material is available online, in part because of some archiving that Crispin Sartwell and I have done. Libertatia ( talk) 18:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | → | Archive 5 |
As well, we can add the task list from Portal:Anarchism to that open task template, somehow, I've gotta run, i'll probably check in tonight, but otherwise won't really be around til monday or tuesday. Murderbike ( talk) 17:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
This may seem utterly silly, but I've noticed that various wiki projects have have special Barnstar awards to provide editors with. Now, this isn't an official Wikiproject, but a task force could share some love too. To that end, I quickly edited together this small Anarchik Star, for use in awarding editors who make substantial improvements to anarchist related articles, or just because you feel like it. (Anarchik shows solidarity with all comrades!)
If you're unaware, Anarchik is a cartoon parody of us ol' anarchists, created by Roberto Ambrosoli. There's a series of comics with him in which he shows solidarity with historic anarchist events, and gives the ruling classes hell. For example, here we see him taking up arms with the anarchists in the Kronstadt rebellion, and here he shakes hands with Nestor Makhno. You can find out more about the character here, assuming you can read Italian.
I attempted to add a little burning fuse to the globe, but it didn't work well. No reason we can't have a sense of humor, right? Anyway, tell me what you think, or make your own. If enough people like it, we can upload it after we've made the anarchism task force official.-- Cast ( talk) 21:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
In un momento segnato dalla ricorrente presenza di altre bombe, non anarchiche e assolutamente non umanitarie l’uso di un simile strumento per scopi ludici appare inopportuno.
Aumenta invece la presenza dell’uomo nero fuori delle vignette dei fumetti, ad accompagnare con la sola immagine il testo di articoli, di volantini, di manifesti, diventando una sorta di logo dell’area militante frequentata dai suoi genitori più o meno ufficiali, ripreso occasionalmente da altre aree del movimento anarchico, non solo italiano. In conseguenza di ciò compaiono in giro anche alcuni “falsi”, di cui il disegnatore ama segnalare con pignoleria, in privato, le difformità dall’originale, pur riconoscendo benevolmente le buone intenzioni (grafiche e politiche) dei falsari.
Così, per mantenere un minimo controllo “morale” sull’evoluzione morfologica della sua creatura, il disegnatore ricorre a volte all’espediente di aggiungere accanto al nome o a uno svolazzo del mantello un cerchietto con la c di un inesistente copyright, invito sottinteso a una falsificazione libera ma rispettosa.
At a time marked by the applicant presence of other bombs, not anarchic and absolutely no humanitarian use of such a tool for recreational purposes is inappropriate.
Instead Increase the presence of black out cartoons of cartoons, to accompany the single image with the text of articles, handouts, posters, becoming a sort of logo of the militant attended by his parents more or less official taken occasionally from other parts of the anarchist movement, not only Italian. As a result appear around some "false", which the designer likes to point out with strictness, in private, the differences from the original, while acknowledging the good intentions benevolently (graphics and policies) of counterfeiters.
Thus, to maintain a minimum control "morality" on its morphological creature, the designer uses times all'espediente to add next to the name or a svolazzo mantle a circle with a non-existent c copyright understood invitation to a counterfeiting free but respectful.
This user is
a member of the Anarchism WikiProject. |
The userbox design has been chosen: White and the Black Flag
I'm partial to the color black. Since the
Anarchism template already uses the circle-a, I'd like to use a different image. Perhaps the Black Star.--
Cast (
talk) 21:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Just enlarged the images. Does this change look better? And now that we can see what the links look like, I think blue against a light gray and black doesn't work, and dark gray is even worst. I'm changing my vote to white. I still like the black star, but the flag seems to be the favorite.-- Cast ( talk) 03:05, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Since the project is now underway, and not many people seem to be voting, I'm going to close this at this point. A white background with the black flag. If anyone wants to change it in the future, they can bring it up again here, or be bold. And as Murderbike has shown, customization is always an option.-- Cast ( talk) 06:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
User:Gregbard responded over here about the proposal. Murderbike ( talk) 00:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, should have posted this here on nomination. Skomorokh incite 16:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Should we have a section for posting new articles? I just "finished" John Turner (anarchist), if anyone wants to check it out and make it even better. Oh, does anyone happen to have a copy of The Guillotine at Work by Gregori Maximoff? Murderbike ( talk) 01:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I thank Skomorokh for the invitation to help out with this project. I can't say how active I will be, or even how useful I will be even if I am active. One thing I would like to do if I ever make the time is work on the Voluntaryism page. Allixpeeke ( talk) 04:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I've added an Afd section for current priorities on the taskforce page and also nominated ethical anarchism for deletion. Skomorokh incite 15:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
This article is a hangover from the pov-warring bad old days. I'm highly tempted to simply redirect to Social anarchism but I thought I'd bring it to the taskforce's attention to see if anyone feels there's something worth salvaging. Skomorokh incite 17:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
This is a set of distinctions we could probably tuck into Definitional concerns in anarchist theory, which was designed as a place we could acknowledge all the differences of vocabulary and the like. As it is, left anarchism really only perpetuates some basic misunderstandings. We should probably do our best to avoid terms like "mainstream anarchism," which are just edit-war bait, and perhaps even "classical anarchism," which has become a dimissive label. Certainly, we need to avoid generalizations that imply that market anarchism, which includes mutualism, is reducible to anarcho-capitalism. Agorists are, after all, among those most enthusiastically embracing the term "left" at the moment. Libertatia ( talk) 19:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
... is up for Featured Article, though I can't figure out where that happens. Murderbike ( talk) 20:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
So, in looking at this article, I noticed that a)it's not referenced at all with inline cites, and b)it's got this weird footnotes section, which I've never seen in a Wikipedia article. So, I started adding a couple of references, and switched a couple footnotes to refs, but I don't really have enough time in the near future (Christmas, then traveling for a month) to do a thorough job of fixing this up. So I was thinking, that if anyone needs a project to work on, and has a bunch of books laying around that would be citeable, adding inline cites would be great, and figuring out if that footnotes section can just take a hike would be double awesome. Murderbike ( talk) 23:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Anybody ever heard of this? After tons of different searches in google books and google regular, I can't find anything confirming the info in this article except a weird anti-"reds" website. Anybody got info on this group? Murderbike ( talk) 07:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
A while back, before the foundation of this taskforce, I added the CrimethInc. article to Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy, rating it as low importance for philosophy as the philosophy of CrimethInc. is marginal and less than highly regarded by academic philosophers to say the least. Today, Murderbike added the anarchism=yes parameter to the article and re-rated it as Mid importance, arguing that as the foremost publisher of anarchist propoganda today, CrimethInc. was quite important to anarchism. Similarly, Max Stirner is a marginal figure in the philosophical canon - there are few if any university courses devoted to his philosophy - but significantly influential to the history of anarchist thought. A similar problem exists for the currently-Mid-rated John Zerzan.
We need to decide if we're going to rate anarchism-related articles purely on the basis of their importance to anarchism, thereby screwing up the Philosophy assessment program (Stirner of equal importance to Wittgenstein) or rate them on the basis of their importance to philosophy more broadly (thus rendering Black Bloc, market anarchism, Infoshop and the Haymarket Riot of negligible "low" importance). Ideas? Skomorokh incite 14:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Practically every article in Category:Anarchist publications is a periodical. Would anybody object if I create a sub-category Category:Anarchist periodicals (similar to Category:Books about anarchism, Category:Anarchist fiction, etc.) and move the periodicals to the new sub-cat? — Malik Shabazz ( talk · contribs) 18:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
OK, so having Emma Goldman reach FA status really excites me, and really motivates me to try to get other anarchism-related articles up to higher status. Particularly, I feel like Confederación Nacional del Trabajo and Alexander Berkman have good potential for becoming at least Good Articles. They both have tons of sources to draw from, and good solid foundations to work with (CNT was a featured article on Spanish Wikipedia, though it's translation was a bit sloppy). These two articles are probably what I'll be spending much of the near future working on, though I'd love some help, as I know my writing isn't the greatest. So, if anyone feels like collaborating on a project like this, feel free! Murderbike ( talk) 00:34, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll be happy to help with the Rocker article, and have requested the Graur book from the library. I will also probably return working on the Josiah Warren article, and would welcome any help. If you look back in the history a bit, I had outlined the major periods of his life, but was interrupted before I could get the thing written. His is a case where a tremendous amount of the reference material is available online, in part because of some archiving that Crispin Sartwell and I have done. Libertatia ( talk) 18:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)