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I have compiled a table of all entertainers and would like to evaluate their vitality for this list. If you think any person should be removed, please put a tally mark in the remove section. If we did a quick check of all people for level 4 annually, it would keep the vital article lists current. Interstellarity ( talk) 01:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Bio | Keep | Remove | Neutral |
---|---|---|---|
Julie Andrews | xxx | x | |
Lauren Bacall | xx | ||
Amitabh Bachchan | xx | ||
Brigitte Bardot | xx | ||
Ingrid Bergman | xxx | ||
Sarah Bernhardt | xxx | ||
Humphrey Bogart | xxx | ||
Marlon Brando | xxx | ||
James Cagney | xx | x | |
Jackie Chan | xx | x | |
Claudette Colbert | x | x | |
Sean Connery | xxx | ||
Gary Cooper | x | x | |
Joan Crawford | xx | x | |
Bette Davis | xxx | ||
Doris Day | xx | x | |
Robert De Niro | xxx | ||
Alain Delon | x | x | |
Marlene Dietrich | xx | ||
Clint Eastwood | xxx | ||
Henry Fonda | xxx | ||
Jean Gabin | x | x | |
Clark Gable | xxx | ||
Greta Garbo | xxx | ||
Judy Garland | xxx | ||
John Gielgud | x | x | |
Lillian Gish | x | x | |
Cary Grant | xxx | ||
Alec Guinness | xx | x | |
Tom Hanks | xx | x | |
Setsuko Hara | x | x | |
Rita Hayworth | x | x | |
Audrey Hepburn | xxxx | ||
Katharine Hepburn | xxx | ||
Grace Kelly | xxx | ||
Klaus Kinski | x | x | |
Vivien Leigh | xx | x | |
Madhubala | x | x | |
Marcello Mastroianni | x | x | |
Toshiro Mifune | xx | ||
Marilyn Monroe | xxxx | ||
Jeanne Moreau | x | x | |
Jack Nicholson | xxx | ||
Laurence Olivier | xxx | ||
Peter O'Toole | xx | x | |
Gregory Peck | xx | x | |
Mary Pickford | x | x | |
Sidney Poitier | xxx | ||
Rajinikanth | xx | ||
Barbara Stanwyck | x | x | |
James Stewart | xxx | ||
Meryl Streep | xxxx | ||
Elizabeth Taylor | xxx | ||
Shirley Temple | xx | x | |
Ellen Terry | x | x | |
Spencer Tracy | xxx | ||
Rudolph Valentino | x | x | |
John Wayne | xxxx | ||
Mae West | xx | ||
George Balanchine | xxx | ||
Mikhail Baryshnikov | xx | x | |
Margot Fonteyn | xx | x | |
Vaslav Nijinsky | xx | ||
Rudolf Nureyev | xx | x | |
Anna Pavlova | xxxx | ||
Marius Petipa | xx | ||
Fred Astaire | xxx | ||
Josephine Baker | xx | ||
Isadora Duncan | xxx | ||
Bob Fosse | x | x | |
Martha Graham | xxxx | ||
Gene Kelly | xxx | ||
Izumo no Okuni | x | x | |
Ginger Rogers | xx | ||
Lucille Ball | xxxx | ||
Carol Burnett | x | x | |
George Carlin | x | x | |
Bill Cosby | x | x | x |
Louis de Funès | x | x | |
Laurel and Hardy | xx | ||
Marx Brothers | xx | ||
Monty Python | xxxx | ||
Richard Pryor | x | x | |
Johnny Carson | x | x | |
Harry Houdini | xxxx | ||
Marcel Marceau | x | x | |
Ed Sullivan | x | x | x |
Oprah Winfrey | xx | x |
Similar to Sublime, Level 5 seems sufficient for this concept.
Basic topic in critical thinking and argumentation. Important in studies and in general communication, especially on the internet.
Mandate of Heaven, is a concept of semi-religious nature and almost has the status of a hidden conventional constitution, was used as ground revolutions in most of the history of China, and widely accepted as justification for the dethrone of emperors and the rebels, comparable to the institutionalized religions' role in Europe and the Middle East. Emperors by convention answer to the heaven, and accordingly hosts rituals to demonstrate they are still favored by the mythical and all mighty universe.
But wouldn't it make more sense to be listed under political? C933103 ( talk) 21:57, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Major Christian rite, of interest to general readers and more in depth readers. Hugely widespread among many forms of Christianity, and around for at least 2000 years and still relevant today. Religion and Philosophy have a few suggestions for removal already which could balance numbers, maybe. Carl wev 09:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Avatar is important term in Hindusim but at this level I think this is also worth to explain range and importance of Deities in other cultures, including Islam and Christianity (see for example Incarnation (Christianity) and read first paragraph in the lead). We list many Avatars on this level: Buddha, Zoroaster, Krishna etc.. I would also prefer list many specific Deities for Hindusim and make this swap to make place for them.
Old and influential Buddhist religious text. Dawid2009 ( talk) 06:05, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Another options can be also Tripitaka and Sutta Piṭaka Dawid2009 ( talk) 20:55, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Alchemy was very influential current of esoteric thought and it influenced also modern science. Nowadays nearly everybody have heard about search for Philosopher's stone. Rosicrucianism was a 17 century idea based on anonymous manifestos, not actually a widespread movement.
Alchemy is already listed. It is under science though. Grey area, but I guess it’s a science attempt, or incorrect science as opposed to religious belief, could discus it’s position in list, an argument could be made either side religion v science. I think I prefer science, but not given it much thought. Carl wev 12:36, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
There is thematic connection beetwe Phoenix and Garuda but any objective oncyclopedia would list Garuda far ahead of Phoenix. Garuda appeared on few National coat of Arms, is cross culturally famous from South Asia, to Japan etc., unlike mere Phoenix. IMHO that Garuda should cover Phoenix, not another around way. Dawid2009 ( talk) 06:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Covered by Zoroastrianism and many other articles Dawid2009 ( talk) 06:05, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Covered by Hinduism excatly in the same way hat Jewish mythology is covered by Judaism at this level Dawid2009 ( talk) 06:05, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
It was mentioned as possible option on the level 2 here: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/2/Archive_1#Sport Dawid2009 ( talk) 11:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Vital just as sport club. We have separate article about Brazil national team on FIFA World Cup but not say about any player on fifa world cup. Dawid2009 ( talk) 20:12, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Arm wrestling as a serious sport (as opposed to something kids do) remains fairly niche, whereas Powerlifting is quite widespread (even more so than the listed Olympic weightlifting) and serves as a counterpart to the listed Bodybuilding. – John M Wolfson ( talk • contribs) 20:39, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Both Biological anthropology and Linguistic anthropology are already included, there is no reason to not also include Sociocultural anthropology, as it is another field within Anthropology, at the same level as Biological and Linguistic Anthropology. There could be an argument to include Cultural anthropology instead, but they link to each other and contain similar information. Jh55305 ( talk) 20:52, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Tencent is big company which owns WeChat and not only. Media in sinosphere are underrepresented. According to this chart race Tecent is company slightly bigger renuve than Meta platforms (previously Facebook.inc). Dawid2009 ( talk) 14:42, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
This organization is as well-known as the Arab League, yet unlike the latter it currently does not belong to the Level 4 list.
An incredibly important language in the history of Mesoamerica and modern Mexico, spoken most notably by the Aztecs, and still widely studied by modern linguists and examined for its features.
Like the other magazines that we have recently been removing, this just isn't vital at this level, especially for the English Wikipedia. It'll fit in better down at Level 5.
Since this is English Wikipedia German news magazine is probably not so important at this level. Level 5 has been created and even New Yorker, which is example of quality magazine in English language, is under removal.
Four other newspapers at this level are examples of journalism. I don't think that we need any French newspaper at this level.
Scientific American as a localized American publication have not attain global level notability, and its role as a popular science magazine is also overlapped with National Geographic. Thus is redundant and I think it can be removed, to make room for podcast, a form of media consumed by probably many million of people around the world.
Most circulated newspaper in the US. Interstellarity ( talk) 21:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
With most developed countries experiencing a population growth rate below replacement cycle, and even some developing countries are entering this region, I think "Human overpopulation" is less of an issue nowadays, and should probably be replaced with a more generic topic of "Human population planning". C933103 ( talk) 01:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Caste system in India seems overly specific for the nation when we already have caste representing the system at this level. The specific implementation should fit in Level 5 just fine. Meanwhile one of the most social relationship in society, cooperation, isn't listed in level 4, despite its antonym, competition, have been listed. Hence I think a swap as proposed should be made. C933103 ( talk) 01:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Census is the minor sector of social bias in the pratice. Vascu ( talk) 21:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
One of the most important dinosaur genera to ever be discovered with its discovery leading to the dinosaur renaissance which completely altered the way dinosaurs are perceived from cold-blooded sluggish animals to warm-blooded active ones. One could say it is redundant to Velociraptor which is already listed but the two are important for different reasons with Velociraptor having greater importance from a cultural perspective due to Jurassic Park but Deinonychus is much more important from a scientific perspective and was the real inspiration behind the raptors in the movie. The redundancy argument also is irrelevant when we list both Diplodocus and Apatosaurus which are both members of the same family.
Germ theory of disease is easily the most significant theory about transmission of disease. It is hard to believe the article isn't currently included in the list. C933103 ( talk) 14:41, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
These operating systems are not widely used anymore and therefore should be removed. Interstellarity ( talk) 14:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Akashi Kaikyo Bridge is not as famous and culturally relevant as Brooklyn Bridge and Golden Gate Bridge. Modern London Bridge is from 1971 and is not as easily recogizable as Tower Bridge.
We have diesel engine but not this article, which is illogical.
We have Four-stroke engine but not this article, which is illogical.
A very obscure mode of transportation that nobody commonly knows. Plus the technology section needs to be reduced anyways.
I definitely thought this was a commonly-known form of transportation, although that may just be from reading The Blue Lotus. Just my two cents. (Added here.) J947 † edits 10:33, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
I think this list, and the list at level 5, tend to include queens and kings based on their impact on popular history rather than their real historical significance. Mary is a romantic figure whose real impact on the trend of history may not have been very great, we should demote her to level 5. Her grandfather should be promoted a level, as he is generally regarded as the most successful of the Stewart monarchs of Scotland, whose reign could arguably be seen as the high point of Scotland's existence as a separate country. PatGallacher ( talk) 21:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Thompson may deserve greater recognition than he has received, but he could still seem like a rather obscure figure. There is some controversy about Scott, but he remains an important figure who a lot of people have heard of. PatGallacher ( talk) 12:00, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Most circulated newspaper in the US. Interstellarity ( talk) 21:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
I think this list, and the list at level 5, tend to include queens and kings based on their impact on popular history rather than their real historical significance. Mary is a romantic figure whose real impact on the trend of history may not have been very great, we should demote her to level 5. Her grandfather should be promoted a level, as he is generally regarded as the most successful of the Stewart monarchs of Scotland, whose reign could arguably be seen as the high point of Scotland's existence as a separate country. PatGallacher ( talk) 21:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Thompson may deserve greater recognition than he has received, but he could still seem like a rather obscure figure. There is some controversy about Scott, but he remains an important figure who a lot of people have heard of. PatGallacher ( talk) 12:00, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Most circulated newspaper in the US. Interstellarity ( talk) 21:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Peking University's influence is on par with any Ivy League university in the US, and, within the last few decades at least, has been considered one of the best in the world. Tsinghua University is already level 4. In general, this page needs more representation from non-American universities, which make up over 1/3 of level 4 university articles. Normsupon ( talk) 03:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
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Not a president, probably not vital. Interstellarity ( talk) 17:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
"Not a president" is a weak rationale. Are Warren G. Harding and Rutherford B. Hayes more vital than Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton? p b p 02:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Not a president, probably not vital. Interstellarity ( talk) 17:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
"Not a president" is a weak rationale. Are Warren G. Harding and Rutherford B. Hayes more vital than Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton? p b p 02:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I think this list, and the list at level 5, tend to include queens and kings based on their impact on popular history rather than their real historical significance. Mary is a romantic figure whose real impact on the trend of history may not have been very great, we should demote her to level 5. Her grandfather should be promoted a level, as he is generally regarded as the most successful of the Stewart monarchs of Scotland, whose reign could arguably be seen as the high point of Scotland's existence as a separate country. PatGallacher ( talk) 21:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
1. As nom.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Suggested as he is credited with being the quintessential frontman (Billboard has openly asked " would we even have rock stars without Mick?") and for being a trailblazer in pop music that generations of musicians after him have followed. The article is due to be listed as a Featured Article in relatively short order. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 00:08, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
I agree Yoshinobu, Minamoto, and Ashikaga should be added. Could we propose a swap for two of the other East Asian leaders, and at least two other politicians, since we are over quota (for the list overall)? Since we're under-quota for People, I'm fine adding these three in, but I'd still like to take several out as well. LightProof1995 ( talk) 21:02, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
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Archive 65 | ← | Archive 70 | Archive 71 | Archive 72 | Archive 73 | Archive 74 | Archive 75 |
I have compiled a table of all entertainers and would like to evaluate their vitality for this list. If you think any person should be removed, please put a tally mark in the remove section. If we did a quick check of all people for level 4 annually, it would keep the vital article lists current. Interstellarity ( talk) 01:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Bio | Keep | Remove | Neutral |
---|---|---|---|
Julie Andrews | xxx | x | |
Lauren Bacall | xx | ||
Amitabh Bachchan | xx | ||
Brigitte Bardot | xx | ||
Ingrid Bergman | xxx | ||
Sarah Bernhardt | xxx | ||
Humphrey Bogart | xxx | ||
Marlon Brando | xxx | ||
James Cagney | xx | x | |
Jackie Chan | xx | x | |
Claudette Colbert | x | x | |
Sean Connery | xxx | ||
Gary Cooper | x | x | |
Joan Crawford | xx | x | |
Bette Davis | xxx | ||
Doris Day | xx | x | |
Robert De Niro | xxx | ||
Alain Delon | x | x | |
Marlene Dietrich | xx | ||
Clint Eastwood | xxx | ||
Henry Fonda | xxx | ||
Jean Gabin | x | x | |
Clark Gable | xxx | ||
Greta Garbo | xxx | ||
Judy Garland | xxx | ||
John Gielgud | x | x | |
Lillian Gish | x | x | |
Cary Grant | xxx | ||
Alec Guinness | xx | x | |
Tom Hanks | xx | x | |
Setsuko Hara | x | x | |
Rita Hayworth | x | x | |
Audrey Hepburn | xxxx | ||
Katharine Hepburn | xxx | ||
Grace Kelly | xxx | ||
Klaus Kinski | x | x | |
Vivien Leigh | xx | x | |
Madhubala | x | x | |
Marcello Mastroianni | x | x | |
Toshiro Mifune | xx | ||
Marilyn Monroe | xxxx | ||
Jeanne Moreau | x | x | |
Jack Nicholson | xxx | ||
Laurence Olivier | xxx | ||
Peter O'Toole | xx | x | |
Gregory Peck | xx | x | |
Mary Pickford | x | x | |
Sidney Poitier | xxx | ||
Rajinikanth | xx | ||
Barbara Stanwyck | x | x | |
James Stewart | xxx | ||
Meryl Streep | xxxx | ||
Elizabeth Taylor | xxx | ||
Shirley Temple | xx | x | |
Ellen Terry | x | x | |
Spencer Tracy | xxx | ||
Rudolph Valentino | x | x | |
John Wayne | xxxx | ||
Mae West | xx | ||
George Balanchine | xxx | ||
Mikhail Baryshnikov | xx | x | |
Margot Fonteyn | xx | x | |
Vaslav Nijinsky | xx | ||
Rudolf Nureyev | xx | x | |
Anna Pavlova | xxxx | ||
Marius Petipa | xx | ||
Fred Astaire | xxx | ||
Josephine Baker | xx | ||
Isadora Duncan | xxx | ||
Bob Fosse | x | x | |
Martha Graham | xxxx | ||
Gene Kelly | xxx | ||
Izumo no Okuni | x | x | |
Ginger Rogers | xx | ||
Lucille Ball | xxxx | ||
Carol Burnett | x | x | |
George Carlin | x | x | |
Bill Cosby | x | x | x |
Louis de Funès | x | x | |
Laurel and Hardy | xx | ||
Marx Brothers | xx | ||
Monty Python | xxxx | ||
Richard Pryor | x | x | |
Johnny Carson | x | x | |
Harry Houdini | xxxx | ||
Marcel Marceau | x | x | |
Ed Sullivan | x | x | x |
Oprah Winfrey | xx | x |
Similar to Sublime, Level 5 seems sufficient for this concept.
Basic topic in critical thinking and argumentation. Important in studies and in general communication, especially on the internet.
Mandate of Heaven, is a concept of semi-religious nature and almost has the status of a hidden conventional constitution, was used as ground revolutions in most of the history of China, and widely accepted as justification for the dethrone of emperors and the rebels, comparable to the institutionalized religions' role in Europe and the Middle East. Emperors by convention answer to the heaven, and accordingly hosts rituals to demonstrate they are still favored by the mythical and all mighty universe.
But wouldn't it make more sense to be listed under political? C933103 ( talk) 21:57, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Major Christian rite, of interest to general readers and more in depth readers. Hugely widespread among many forms of Christianity, and around for at least 2000 years and still relevant today. Religion and Philosophy have a few suggestions for removal already which could balance numbers, maybe. Carl wev 09:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Avatar is important term in Hindusim but at this level I think this is also worth to explain range and importance of Deities in other cultures, including Islam and Christianity (see for example Incarnation (Christianity) and read first paragraph in the lead). We list many Avatars on this level: Buddha, Zoroaster, Krishna etc.. I would also prefer list many specific Deities for Hindusim and make this swap to make place for them.
Old and influential Buddhist religious text. Dawid2009 ( talk) 06:05, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Another options can be also Tripitaka and Sutta Piṭaka Dawid2009 ( talk) 20:55, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Alchemy was very influential current of esoteric thought and it influenced also modern science. Nowadays nearly everybody have heard about search for Philosopher's stone. Rosicrucianism was a 17 century idea based on anonymous manifestos, not actually a widespread movement.
Alchemy is already listed. It is under science though. Grey area, but I guess it’s a science attempt, or incorrect science as opposed to religious belief, could discus it’s position in list, an argument could be made either side religion v science. I think I prefer science, but not given it much thought. Carl wev 12:36, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
There is thematic connection beetwe Phoenix and Garuda but any objective oncyclopedia would list Garuda far ahead of Phoenix. Garuda appeared on few National coat of Arms, is cross culturally famous from South Asia, to Japan etc., unlike mere Phoenix. IMHO that Garuda should cover Phoenix, not another around way. Dawid2009 ( talk) 06:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Covered by Zoroastrianism and many other articles Dawid2009 ( talk) 06:05, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Covered by Hinduism excatly in the same way hat Jewish mythology is covered by Judaism at this level Dawid2009 ( talk) 06:05, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
It was mentioned as possible option on the level 2 here: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/2/Archive_1#Sport Dawid2009 ( talk) 11:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Vital just as sport club. We have separate article about Brazil national team on FIFA World Cup but not say about any player on fifa world cup. Dawid2009 ( talk) 20:12, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Arm wrestling as a serious sport (as opposed to something kids do) remains fairly niche, whereas Powerlifting is quite widespread (even more so than the listed Olympic weightlifting) and serves as a counterpart to the listed Bodybuilding. – John M Wolfson ( talk • contribs) 20:39, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Both Biological anthropology and Linguistic anthropology are already included, there is no reason to not also include Sociocultural anthropology, as it is another field within Anthropology, at the same level as Biological and Linguistic Anthropology. There could be an argument to include Cultural anthropology instead, but they link to each other and contain similar information. Jh55305 ( talk) 20:52, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Tencent is big company which owns WeChat and not only. Media in sinosphere are underrepresented. According to this chart race Tecent is company slightly bigger renuve than Meta platforms (previously Facebook.inc). Dawid2009 ( talk) 14:42, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
This organization is as well-known as the Arab League, yet unlike the latter it currently does not belong to the Level 4 list.
An incredibly important language in the history of Mesoamerica and modern Mexico, spoken most notably by the Aztecs, and still widely studied by modern linguists and examined for its features.
Like the other magazines that we have recently been removing, this just isn't vital at this level, especially for the English Wikipedia. It'll fit in better down at Level 5.
Since this is English Wikipedia German news magazine is probably not so important at this level. Level 5 has been created and even New Yorker, which is example of quality magazine in English language, is under removal.
Four other newspapers at this level are examples of journalism. I don't think that we need any French newspaper at this level.
Scientific American as a localized American publication have not attain global level notability, and its role as a popular science magazine is also overlapped with National Geographic. Thus is redundant and I think it can be removed, to make room for podcast, a form of media consumed by probably many million of people around the world.
Most circulated newspaper in the US. Interstellarity ( talk) 21:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
With most developed countries experiencing a population growth rate below replacement cycle, and even some developing countries are entering this region, I think "Human overpopulation" is less of an issue nowadays, and should probably be replaced with a more generic topic of "Human population planning". C933103 ( talk) 01:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Caste system in India seems overly specific for the nation when we already have caste representing the system at this level. The specific implementation should fit in Level 5 just fine. Meanwhile one of the most social relationship in society, cooperation, isn't listed in level 4, despite its antonym, competition, have been listed. Hence I think a swap as proposed should be made. C933103 ( talk) 01:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Census is the minor sector of social bias in the pratice. Vascu ( talk) 21:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
One of the most important dinosaur genera to ever be discovered with its discovery leading to the dinosaur renaissance which completely altered the way dinosaurs are perceived from cold-blooded sluggish animals to warm-blooded active ones. One could say it is redundant to Velociraptor which is already listed but the two are important for different reasons with Velociraptor having greater importance from a cultural perspective due to Jurassic Park but Deinonychus is much more important from a scientific perspective and was the real inspiration behind the raptors in the movie. The redundancy argument also is irrelevant when we list both Diplodocus and Apatosaurus which are both members of the same family.
Germ theory of disease is easily the most significant theory about transmission of disease. It is hard to believe the article isn't currently included in the list. C933103 ( talk) 14:41, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
These operating systems are not widely used anymore and therefore should be removed. Interstellarity ( talk) 14:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Akashi Kaikyo Bridge is not as famous and culturally relevant as Brooklyn Bridge and Golden Gate Bridge. Modern London Bridge is from 1971 and is not as easily recogizable as Tower Bridge.
We have diesel engine but not this article, which is illogical.
We have Four-stroke engine but not this article, which is illogical.
A very obscure mode of transportation that nobody commonly knows. Plus the technology section needs to be reduced anyways.
I definitely thought this was a commonly-known form of transportation, although that may just be from reading The Blue Lotus. Just my two cents. (Added here.) J947 † edits 10:33, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
I think this list, and the list at level 5, tend to include queens and kings based on their impact on popular history rather than their real historical significance. Mary is a romantic figure whose real impact on the trend of history may not have been very great, we should demote her to level 5. Her grandfather should be promoted a level, as he is generally regarded as the most successful of the Stewart monarchs of Scotland, whose reign could arguably be seen as the high point of Scotland's existence as a separate country. PatGallacher ( talk) 21:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Thompson may deserve greater recognition than he has received, but he could still seem like a rather obscure figure. There is some controversy about Scott, but he remains an important figure who a lot of people have heard of. PatGallacher ( talk) 12:00, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Most circulated newspaper in the US. Interstellarity ( talk) 21:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
I think this list, and the list at level 5, tend to include queens and kings based on their impact on popular history rather than their real historical significance. Mary is a romantic figure whose real impact on the trend of history may not have been very great, we should demote her to level 5. Her grandfather should be promoted a level, as he is generally regarded as the most successful of the Stewart monarchs of Scotland, whose reign could arguably be seen as the high point of Scotland's existence as a separate country. PatGallacher ( talk) 21:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Thompson may deserve greater recognition than he has received, but he could still seem like a rather obscure figure. There is some controversy about Scott, but he remains an important figure who a lot of people have heard of. PatGallacher ( talk) 12:00, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Most circulated newspaper in the US. Interstellarity ( talk) 21:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Peking University's influence is on par with any Ivy League university in the US, and, within the last few decades at least, has been considered one of the best in the world. Tsinghua University is already level 4. In general, this page needs more representation from non-American universities, which make up over 1/3 of level 4 university articles. Normsupon ( talk) 03:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Not a president, probably not vital. Interstellarity ( talk) 17:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
"Not a president" is a weak rationale. Are Warren G. Harding and Rutherford B. Hayes more vital than Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton? p b p 02:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Not a president, probably not vital. Interstellarity ( talk) 17:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
"Not a president" is a weak rationale. Are Warren G. Harding and Rutherford B. Hayes more vital than Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton? p b p 02:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I think this list, and the list at level 5, tend to include queens and kings based on their impact on popular history rather than their real historical significance. Mary is a romantic figure whose real impact on the trend of history may not have been very great, we should demote her to level 5. Her grandfather should be promoted a level, as he is generally regarded as the most successful of the Stewart monarchs of Scotland, whose reign could arguably be seen as the high point of Scotland's existence as a separate country. PatGallacher ( talk) 21:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
1. As nom.
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Suggested as he is credited with being the quintessential frontman (Billboard has openly asked " would we even have rock stars without Mick?") and for being a trailblazer in pop music that generations of musicians after him have followed. The article is due to be listed as a Featured Article in relatively short order. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 00:08, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
I agree Yoshinobu, Minamoto, and Ashikaga should be added. Could we propose a swap for two of the other East Asian leaders, and at least two other politicians, since we are over quota (for the list overall)? Since we're under-quota for People, I'm fine adding these three in, but I'd still like to take several out as well. LightProof1995 ( talk) 21:02, 25 November 2022 (UTC)