URFA/2020 and instructions |
Very old FAs (2004–2009) |
Old FAs (2010–2015) | Discussion |
Monthly stats and reports |
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Glynn Lunney, the NASA engineer who led the team that brought back Apollo 13, died yesterday. Unfortunate that our URFA/2020 notes were not cleaned up before his death, but happy that MLilburne has come out of a 9-year absence! Please keep an eye on whether we can mark this “Satisfactory” after obit-related updates. [1] SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 14:57, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Continued from #2021 year-end goal ?
To complicate it, we've already cleared out some of the seasons of copyvio (denoted via FA icon or Green tick) and we haven't checked other articles within WPTC. I hope we can clear this soon; more editors are going to be active soon and not all of them understand copyright. Sennecaster (What now?) 17:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Discussion continued at the talk page of the CCI. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 05:48, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
For those following at home, I have put hours, hours, and hours into this example at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/2003 Pacific hurricane season/archive1. I'm waiting for more feedback from the CCI peeps, but this work is arduous, and I doubt I caught everything. Also, on an individual hurricane URFA review here. Hope everyone will have a look at what is involved. My new knowledge forced me to go back to my days as a new editor, and template my early moving around of content as I built the Tourette syndrome suite; even though it was almost always my own writing I was moving around between sub-articles, in the early days (2006 and 2007), I did not know to state in edit summary when I was copying between articles. This has really slowed me down, and we have tons of work ahead with Hurricane article evaluation. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Hahc21
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:23, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Per above, there are other FAs on the 2020 list that are also on the 2020 Unreviewed featured articles per User:Moneytrees/GAFAFLCCI:
Of these three, Kingdom Hearts II and Mana (series) have meaty edits in the CCIs while Elizabeth II doesn't. -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 21:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
I don’t know how to read the CCI pages; what are the N and X indicating? The Kingdom Hearts II edits are not by the FAC nominator, but sure are a lot of them. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
DrKay see the CCI at the top of this section; there is a CCI on an editor who was editing FA Elizabeth II in 2017 (after the 2012 FAC). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
SandyGeorgia, there's also Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Kailash29792 (Courtesy ping @ Kailash29792:), which has six FA's listed; Keechaka Vadham (2018), Andha Naal (2017), Mayabazar (2016), Kalidas (film) (2015, went through a FAR in 2017), Enthiran (2015), Chandralekha (1948 film) (2014, went through a FAR in 2018). I haven't seen any violations on those articles, but they should probably be checked. I don't have a full list of all the FAs listed at CCI, but I think most of them have been listed here now. If I find any others I'll make sure to note them here. Moneytrees🎄 Talk/ CCI guide 03:55, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
At least three FAs so far by Charles Edward have been found to have source-to-text integrity issues, and should be examined for and submitted to FAR for fresh review.
When Victoriaearle rewrote Battle of Tippecanoe at FAR, she argued that the article was developed during a time period when FAs didn't hew closely to inline citations; in fact, 2009 was after that period. Inline citations were required by 2006, and were widely enforced at FAC by the end of 2008. It appears that these FACs never had a source-to-text integrity check, with an LTA sockmaster being among the early supports. During 2009, FA nominators who already had FAs were not subjected to source-to-text integrity checks again, and from examining each FAC, it appears that none of these FAs ever were.
The problems at Battle of Tippecanoe were significant, and I have found same at Eli Lilly, while Hog Farm has noticed also Battle of Corydon. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:18, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Date and FAC promoted | Article | Comments |
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2009-04-04 | Battle of Tippecanoe | Source-to-text issues; reworked at FAR by Victoriaearle |
2009-04-21 | Eli Lilly | Considerable
2022-10-10 source-to-text issues,
Mattisse Defeatured, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 08:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC) |
2009-05-22 | Elwood Haynes |
1, Mattisse FARGIVEN 2023-04-15 |
2009-07-14 | Battle of Corydon | Source-to-text issues |
2009-10-31 | Thomas R. Marshall | 1, 2 |
2010-04-22 | On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away | Source-to-text issues |
2011-04-16 | Sherman Minton | Source-to-text issues raised |
2018-07-22 | William M. Branham | 1, 2 |
Right now, on Mobile view via smartphones, the Notes column is very narrow and squeezed, making notes harder to read. Can the issue be remedied? George Ho ( talk) 20:54, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Would somebody be able to take a look at Talk:White Deer Hole Creek#FA concerns and White Deer Hole Creek? It's one of the 2006s, and the nominator has been doing some work on it since I noticed it in November. I haven't been able to follow up due to RL busyness and am so thoroughly burned out right now that I have no idea when I'll be able to get to it. Hog Farm Talk 22:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
... re Bengali language movement, see here and re post-scheduling changes to TFA, see here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 11:07, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Has anyone thought of using a bot (or just AWB) to place a notice on the talk page of articles listed here? Seeing an old article pop up on a watchlist might drive some new engagement with it. I can't be the only one who watches the FAs of wiki friends, especially those who have left Wikipedia, for example, and some inactive editors might still check on their FAs periodically. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
As the number of delisted articles gets longer, this list is causing the scrolling bar to get smaller. Would anyone object to me putting the delisted articles on URFA/2020A and URFA/2020B into two columns? This would not change the numbering system. Z1720 ( talk) 17:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Hopefully we can get the '06 and '07 portions of the list largely processed in the nearer rather than longer term. These are ones from that time frame that have two satisfactories, suggesting that they're in good shape or close to such and could use another set of eyes:
Hog Farm Talk 16:37, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
I've started preliminary work on June's TFAs and I was looking for something appropriate for June 19. This might be appropriate, but it's rather old. Has it been looked at and found satisfactory? Wehwalt ( talk) 01:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Can be found here. Key word as always is "tentative". Comments welcome and should be put at the foot of that page. Scheduling will not occur until at least May 1. Wehwalt ( talk) 14:11, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Old ones are:
None of these look high-risk to me, but I'll try to take a look over the next few days and get some satisfactories marked on the chart where appropriate. Hog Farm Talk 14:19, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
A lot of the older ships have needed work, so @ Parsecboy, Sturmvogel 66, and Peacemaker67: for USS Massachusetts (BB-2) (it doesn't have to be perfect for TFA -- just not in need of a FAR). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 13:02, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
... at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/July 2023; pls discuss there. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 14:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Were we interested in running another one of these like last year? I've had some tracking stuff in my userspace and a list of all open '06-'07s; it shouldn't be too hard for me to update the info from last year. Hog Farm Talk 00:07, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
@ Hog Farm, SandyGeorgia, and Buidhe: @ WP:FAR coordinators: I updated the chart from User:Hog Farm/annual update. Any thoughts on this draft? Z1720 ( talk) 03:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Unreviewed featured articles/2020 (URFA/2020) is a systematic approach to reviewing older Featured articles (FAs) to ensure they still meet the FA standards. A January 2022 Signpost article called "Forgotten Featured" explored the effort.
Progress is recorded at the monthly stats page. Through 2023:
Entering its fourth year, URFA is helping to maintain FA standards; FAs are being restored via FAR and improvements initiated on talk pages. Nine editors received a FASA for restoring seven articles to meet the FA criteria. Many articles have been rerun as Today's featured article, helping increase mainpage diversity.
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There remain almost 4,000 old and very old FAs to be reviewed. Some topic areas and WikiProjects have been more proactive than others in restoring or maintaining their old FAs. As seen in the chart below, the following have very high ratios of FAs kept to those delisted (ordered from highest ratio):
and others have a good ratio of kept to delisted FAs:
Kudos to editors who pitched in to help maintain older FAs!
FAs reviewed at URFA/2020 through 2023 by content area
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Noting some minor differences in tallies:
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Reviewing our oldest featured articles ensures that our best articles are up-to-date, helps maintain diversity at WP:TFA, and ensures that our articles are still following the featured article criteria.
Here's how any editor can help:
More regular URFA and FAR reviewers will help ensure that FAs continue to represent examples of Wikipedia's best work. If you have any questions or feedback, please visit Wikipedia talk:Unreviewed featured articles/2020/4Q2023. Z1720 ( talk) 17:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
URFA/2020 and instructions |
Very old FAs (2004–2009) |
Old FAs (2010–2015) | Discussion |
Monthly stats and reports |
|
|||
Glynn Lunney, the NASA engineer who led the team that brought back Apollo 13, died yesterday. Unfortunate that our URFA/2020 notes were not cleaned up before his death, but happy that MLilburne has come out of a 9-year absence! Please keep an eye on whether we can mark this “Satisfactory” after obit-related updates. [1] SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 14:57, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Continued from #2021 year-end goal ?
To complicate it, we've already cleared out some of the seasons of copyvio (denoted via FA icon or Green tick) and we haven't checked other articles within WPTC. I hope we can clear this soon; more editors are going to be active soon and not all of them understand copyright. Sennecaster (What now?) 17:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Discussion continued at the talk page of the CCI. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 05:48, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
For those following at home, I have put hours, hours, and hours into this example at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/2003 Pacific hurricane season/archive1. I'm waiting for more feedback from the CCI peeps, but this work is arduous, and I doubt I caught everything. Also, on an individual hurricane URFA review here. Hope everyone will have a look at what is involved. My new knowledge forced me to go back to my days as a new editor, and template my early moving around of content as I built the Tourette syndrome suite; even though it was almost always my own writing I was moving around between sub-articles, in the early days (2006 and 2007), I did not know to state in edit summary when I was copying between articles. This has really slowed me down, and we have tons of work ahead with Hurricane article evaluation. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Hahc21
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:23, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Per above, there are other FAs on the 2020 list that are also on the 2020 Unreviewed featured articles per User:Moneytrees/GAFAFLCCI:
Of these three, Kingdom Hearts II and Mana (series) have meaty edits in the CCIs while Elizabeth II doesn't. -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 21:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
I don’t know how to read the CCI pages; what are the N and X indicating? The Kingdom Hearts II edits are not by the FAC nominator, but sure are a lot of them. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
DrKay see the CCI at the top of this section; there is a CCI on an editor who was editing FA Elizabeth II in 2017 (after the 2012 FAC). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
SandyGeorgia, there's also Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Kailash29792 (Courtesy ping @ Kailash29792:), which has six FA's listed; Keechaka Vadham (2018), Andha Naal (2017), Mayabazar (2016), Kalidas (film) (2015, went through a FAR in 2017), Enthiran (2015), Chandralekha (1948 film) (2014, went through a FAR in 2018). I haven't seen any violations on those articles, but they should probably be checked. I don't have a full list of all the FAs listed at CCI, but I think most of them have been listed here now. If I find any others I'll make sure to note them here. Moneytrees🎄 Talk/ CCI guide 03:55, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
At least three FAs so far by Charles Edward have been found to have source-to-text integrity issues, and should be examined for and submitted to FAR for fresh review.
When Victoriaearle rewrote Battle of Tippecanoe at FAR, she argued that the article was developed during a time period when FAs didn't hew closely to inline citations; in fact, 2009 was after that period. Inline citations were required by 2006, and were widely enforced at FAC by the end of 2008. It appears that these FACs never had a source-to-text integrity check, with an LTA sockmaster being among the early supports. During 2009, FA nominators who already had FAs were not subjected to source-to-text integrity checks again, and from examining each FAC, it appears that none of these FAs ever were.
The problems at Battle of Tippecanoe were significant, and I have found same at Eli Lilly, while Hog Farm has noticed also Battle of Corydon. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:18, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Date and FAC promoted | Article | Comments |
---|---|---|
2009-04-04 | Battle of Tippecanoe | Source-to-text issues; reworked at FAR by Victoriaearle |
2009-04-21 | Eli Lilly | Considerable
2022-10-10 source-to-text issues,
Mattisse Defeatured, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 08:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC) |
2009-05-22 | Elwood Haynes |
1, Mattisse FARGIVEN 2023-04-15 |
2009-07-14 | Battle of Corydon | Source-to-text issues |
2009-10-31 | Thomas R. Marshall | 1, 2 |
2010-04-22 | On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away | Source-to-text issues |
2011-04-16 | Sherman Minton | Source-to-text issues raised |
2018-07-22 | William M. Branham | 1, 2 |
Right now, on Mobile view via smartphones, the Notes column is very narrow and squeezed, making notes harder to read. Can the issue be remedied? George Ho ( talk) 20:54, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Would somebody be able to take a look at Talk:White Deer Hole Creek#FA concerns and White Deer Hole Creek? It's one of the 2006s, and the nominator has been doing some work on it since I noticed it in November. I haven't been able to follow up due to RL busyness and am so thoroughly burned out right now that I have no idea when I'll be able to get to it. Hog Farm Talk 22:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
... re Bengali language movement, see here and re post-scheduling changes to TFA, see here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 11:07, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Has anyone thought of using a bot (or just AWB) to place a notice on the talk page of articles listed here? Seeing an old article pop up on a watchlist might drive some new engagement with it. I can't be the only one who watches the FAs of wiki friends, especially those who have left Wikipedia, for example, and some inactive editors might still check on their FAs periodically. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
As the number of delisted articles gets longer, this list is causing the scrolling bar to get smaller. Would anyone object to me putting the delisted articles on URFA/2020A and URFA/2020B into two columns? This would not change the numbering system. Z1720 ( talk) 17:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Hopefully we can get the '06 and '07 portions of the list largely processed in the nearer rather than longer term. These are ones from that time frame that have two satisfactories, suggesting that they're in good shape or close to such and could use another set of eyes:
Hog Farm Talk 16:37, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
I've started preliminary work on June's TFAs and I was looking for something appropriate for June 19. This might be appropriate, but it's rather old. Has it been looked at and found satisfactory? Wehwalt ( talk) 01:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Can be found here. Key word as always is "tentative". Comments welcome and should be put at the foot of that page. Scheduling will not occur until at least May 1. Wehwalt ( talk) 14:11, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Old ones are:
None of these look high-risk to me, but I'll try to take a look over the next few days and get some satisfactories marked on the chart where appropriate. Hog Farm Talk 14:19, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
A lot of the older ships have needed work, so @ Parsecboy, Sturmvogel 66, and Peacemaker67: for USS Massachusetts (BB-2) (it doesn't have to be perfect for TFA -- just not in need of a FAR). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 13:02, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
... at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/July 2023; pls discuss there. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 14:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Were we interested in running another one of these like last year? I've had some tracking stuff in my userspace and a list of all open '06-'07s; it shouldn't be too hard for me to update the info from last year. Hog Farm Talk 00:07, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
@ Hog Farm, SandyGeorgia, and Buidhe: @ WP:FAR coordinators: I updated the chart from User:Hog Farm/annual update. Any thoughts on this draft? Z1720 ( talk) 03:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Unreviewed featured articles/2020 (URFA/2020) is a systematic approach to reviewing older Featured articles (FAs) to ensure they still meet the FA standards. A January 2022 Signpost article called "Forgotten Featured" explored the effort.
Progress is recorded at the monthly stats page. Through 2023:
Entering its fourth year, URFA is helping to maintain FA standards; FAs are being restored via FAR and improvements initiated on talk pages. Nine editors received a FASA for restoring seven articles to meet the FA criteria. Many articles have been rerun as Today's featured article, helping increase mainpage diversity.
|
There remain almost 4,000 old and very old FAs to be reviewed. Some topic areas and WikiProjects have been more proactive than others in restoring or maintaining their old FAs. As seen in the chart below, the following have very high ratios of FAs kept to those delisted (ordered from highest ratio):
and others have a good ratio of kept to delisted FAs:
Kudos to editors who pitched in to help maintain older FAs!
FAs reviewed at URFA/2020 through 2023 by content area
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Noting some minor differences in tallies:
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Reviewing our oldest featured articles ensures that our best articles are up-to-date, helps maintain diversity at WP:TFA, and ensures that our articles are still following the featured article criteria.
Here's how any editor can help:
More regular URFA and FAR reviewers will help ensure that FAs continue to represent examples of Wikipedia's best work. If you have any questions or feedback, please visit Wikipedia talk:Unreviewed featured articles/2020/4Q2023. Z1720 ( talk) 17:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)