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Archive 1 |
Currently, there is a discrepancy between the main page's "article achievements" list and Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge because someone added this category to Template:WPEUR10k. I removed this category and posted a note on the template's talk page. Some of the tagged Europe articles still appear in the U.S. category, but I am hoping this will resolved itself soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:56, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Women's March on Seattle was nominated for deletion. It may need expansion to survive as standalone. - Brianhe ( talk) 19:46, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
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Any editors feel like creating/improving some cannabis-related articles and tagging their talk pages with two banners?! :p --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:57, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Is anyone here willing to remove the deletion tag at People's Climate March (2017) per WP:SNOWBALL? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:31, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
WPUS50 participants are invited to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects throughout the month of June as part of the fourth annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign. Feel free to add new and expanded content on the project's Results page. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:55, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I nominated Wikipedia:WikiProject North America/The North America Destubathon for deletion. Feel free to take a look at the talk page, or contribute to the ongoing discussion. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:06, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Some state WikiProjects have helpful links. If anyone wants to volunteer to monitor one or more of these lists, and log their checks, please note your ability to help. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:36, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
In the not-too-distant past, there were mechanisms developed by/for state WPs to monitor recent changes to the project's articles. The one which WP Alaska had was never properly maintained and was subsequently deleted as "routine maintenance" by an admin not involved with the project and with no discussion or consensus. I haven't paid much attention to whether such mechanisms still exist. If they do, perhaps they could be added to the above subpage and monitored in order to address Knope's concerns. As I overlooked this discussion and no one has expressly told me otherwise, I've been monitoring the new Alaska articles log for possible additions to the list. I've taken a subjective approach to such, focusing on article quality or potential for such and not just automatically adding every single thing. I don't really see what the problem is with that. If we're going to limit this to those editors actively contributing, we're going to see more scenarios like the list filling up with copycat permastubs on geographic locations, articles which mostly lack any content besides an infobox and a link to GNIS. I'm seeing more and more of these every time I browse the list, and a random sampling of those articles offers no indication that this is being done with article quality in mind (more on that below).
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions 02:26, 23 November 2016 (UTC)Sorry, no longer interested in participating — I'm seeing far too much subpar crap that will never have potential being created and vigorously defended, plus I'm seeing far too much micromanagment / meddling going occurring on the project side from the same few editors. There's too much of that going on across the encyclopedia in general for me to put up with little fiefdoms of same being created hither and yon on top of it.
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions
02:22, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
The idea is that people choose to join the challenge and contribute specifically towards it, not just a collection of every new article created. And the emphasis is more on existing quality improvements. New entries are fine but stubs which are just a single paragraph I think we'd be best leaving them out. The problem we have is that most people ignore the mess and just create new entries, so the mechanism with the challenge and contest is more designed at motivating people to improve more articles which are already stubs etc. Let's try to get people on board with this and contributing here themselves, it'll be slow getting off the ground but will be better for it long term. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:13, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Please feel free to update. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 00:10, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Feel free to update as the campaign continues. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 00:12, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Dreamland Villa, Arizona was noted on the list as having been nominated for deletion. The AFD closed as keep within the past day or so. Unfortunately, as I referred to in my comments at that AFD, this is evidently encouraging the article's creator to also create a slew of similar articles of even less substance merely to eliminate redlinks in a list which has long been problematic and long been ignored. I don't see how it helps readers who may be browsing a category to come across an untold number of articles consisting of little more than an infobox and a GNIS link, as it can only appeal to those too lazy or stupid to just go straight to GNIS to get the exact same information.
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions 02:26, 23 November 2016 (UTC)Sorry, no longer interested in participating — I'm seeing far too much subpar crap that will never have potential being created and vigorously defended, plus I'm seeing far too much micromanagment / meddling going occurring on the project side from the same few editors. There's too much of that going on across the encyclopedia in general for me to put up with little fiefdoms of same being created hither and yon on top of it.
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions
02:22, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
An item was just added with the CSA flagicon. Oklahoma would seem more appropriate to me as this is WP United States, which CSA is decidedly not... - Brianhe ( talk) 19:27, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
I created the article 2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy, which is currently nominated for deletion. That's fine and all, but I'm noticing there are some red links appearing throughout the article if WPUS50 participants want to help turn red links blue. Thanks for your consideration! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:43, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
If other editors are interested in helping, I've created many redirects to this page: List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America. It would be really helpful to create stubs for many of these entries, especially given the ongoing debate in the U.S. re: Confederate memorials and monuments. I invite all to help with this effort. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:49, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Participants are invited to create and expand articles about individual statues within the National Statuary Hall Collection. See the following link for discussion: Talk:National_Statuary_Hall_Collection#Standalone_article_for_each_sculpture. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:42, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
BTW, the 420 Collaboration to create and improve cannabis-related content runs through the month of April. Challenge participants are invited to participate. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi wikipedians, there was a number display problem in the archive listing. I fixed it. Removed # in front of the "
The list ends at 5000. Need to start a new list 5001-5500. Thanks, SWP13 ( talk) 16:49, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Welcome, or Aloha as they'd say in the islands!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
The initial stage will be to try to get enough interested people to set up a challenge for as many states as possible. Those which only have one or two and not enough can just contribute to the main list here, but feel free anybody to begin adding entries to this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:25, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
Would drafts created prior to the challenge, but not significantly expanded/moved into the mainspace until November, count? I've been meaning to clear my backlog of drafts (in various stages of readiness), but would put it on the backburner for the challenge. Sounder Bruce 22:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Currently, the campaign page asks contributors to list new/expanded articles at the bottom of the list. This list is going to get long pretty quickly. Are we sure we don't want to organize the list alphabetically, and/or by state? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:51, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for developing this, but the people who created those articles need to know about this and be willing to contribute themselves of course. Let's keep it as a general 1-50,000 list, as it will be too difficult to monitor percentage progress with 50 separate ones, but we can create some 1000 sub challenges on sub pages for NY, NJ, Oregon, Washington etc if there is the support and then they can be tipped into this every 100 entries. If anybody can get together a minimum of five active editors for a state challenge I'll create a separate list page. Another reason why it needs ot be a big general list is that some states are way more active than others, NYC would reach 1000 much sooner than Iowa or something. However, if we run a destubathon then we'll organize it by state and have people listing their entries under the given state on the page and we could aim for a target of a certian number of destubs for each state and give a prize to the person who does the most in the time of the contest.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:55, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps moving the contributions/counts to a subpage and transcluding it on the main page would be a better idea. My watchlist is currently clogged with entries, when I would rather be watching the talk page for changes. Sounder Bruce 04:41, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Already seeing that much of the support is East and West. @ Pyrusca:, @ Knope7:, @ Alansohn:, @ Epicgenius:, @ JJBers:, MWright96 if you like I could set up WikiProject United States/The 10,000 East Coast Challenge as a sub challenge of this, and WikiProject United States/The 10,000 West Coast Challenge covering Oregon, Washington and CA etc MB298, Brianhe, Another Believer, SounderBruce? That might have more momentum than individual state challenges with low support. Those would run by themselves and we'd then "tip" the entries into this main list every 100 articles or so. Up to you. This is off to a good start already so perhaps lets focus on just a main one for a while..♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:01, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
I've created an invitation template, inspired by Happybluemo's take on the classic Uncle Sam poster. MB298 ( talk) 02:54, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Yes Ser Amantio di Nicolao can take charge of that sometime, but he's already overworked and underpaid here with invitations and AWB edits! I think for the time being let's try to get a momentum going, get many of the regulars on board and start to build it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:06, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Those count, right? What should I list them as? – Muboshgu ( talk) 02:44, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Currently, the scope includes the 50 U.S. states. Do we want to expand the scope to include Washington, D.C. and/or other territories? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:34, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Yes DC and The Territories can have sections, we can include Puerto Rico, Guam etc, feel free to add them.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:59, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
There are also former territories and occupied foreign territories (though there are none currently occupied) - Wikidemon ( talk) 03:39, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
I feel that New England is ready for a 5,000 challenge with 833 articles per state. Do you guys agree? Or should it wait for a while?— JJBers| talk 18:17, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Hint: Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all part of this.
I'd support that yup, but you'll have to get together some really active editors to make it work. User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao I know can help with alerting people on this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:50, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
I changed the instructions on sub-campaign pages so note than new/expanded articles with check marks means the entry also appears on the campaign's main page. Reconciling the multiple lists and campaign category becomes impossible when all talk pages are tagged, but entries only appear on subpages. I think sub-campaigns are fine, but we should consider the main page list a "master list" of all articles created/improved by the parent (50,000) challenge. If others disagree, please discuss here. Thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:13, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
@ Another Believer: You know the more I think about this the more I think you were right originally to split it by state. Easier to maintain a list on one page. Do you want to reorganize by state and have percentage bars for 1-1000 for each?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:32, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Alright, it may be real early, but constantly dividing by 250 is going to get annoying once we get to something like 2,500 articles. I propose by then we start dividing by 500, then by around 5,000 start dividing into 1,000 article tables with 2 sub tables, 500 each, then around 25,000 start diving into 5,000 article tables, then 1,000 and down to 500. Then at 50,000, divide to two 25,000 article tables, and then down the list to 500. Just a proposal for the near (or far) future. — JJBers| talk 22:46, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
![]() | According to math, we are growing about 35 articles per day, which according to math again, will take about 1,428 days, or just short of 4 years, to get to 50,000 articles. Get ready for boredom... |
The above comment was added by User:JJBers Public, but I figured it should be a credited comment for discussion instead of an anonymous talk page banner. JJBers, feel free to revert, I rarely edit comments by other users but figured we should follow standard talk page discussion format. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:09, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
If editors who might enjoy creating new album articles, Wikipedia:Requested articles/music/Albums may offer some suggestions. Of course, this list is not limited to U.S. artists, but you will recognize some American musicians/groups. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:32, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
WP:WikiProject Women in Red/Military#United States may provide inspiration for project members. Many have multiple links to references that could help a researcher get started. - Brianhe ( talk) 18:11, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Would it be all right if I were to make a participant userbox? It would say something along the lines of "This user is currently participating in The 50,000 Challenge. You can help!" JTP ( talk • contribs) 21:10, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
Edit: Should this be moved to the Wikipedia:
namespace or as a subpage of
Wikipedia:The 50,000 Challenge? I was curious as currently it is just a subpage of my userpage.
JTP (
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18:54, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Recommend accepting (checking off) Arizona populated place articles by Onel5969 en masse to help reduce the backlog. - Brianhe ( talk) 16:43, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
Due to Kentucky being at 7 signatures and North Carolina being at 5 signatures, and other states being around 2-4 signatures. I would recommend starting a project similar to
the New England sub-challenge with the states in the
Appalachia region. This includes,
North Carolina,
Tennessee,
Kentucky,
West Virginia, and
Georgia. If you want too, any of you can create, but I would feel it would be deleted if I did.—
JJBers|
talk
17:42, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
I think we'd be best merging the state ones started into this, too much maintenance and confusion on separate pages I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:38, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
I think it's best if we merge most of the sub challenges and drop the idea. For contests doing regional cluster ones like this is a possibility, but we just haven't the editors to sustain multiple challenges, and it confuses people on knowing where to post the articles. I've merged all but Pacific NW and New England for now. The Pacific one looks like it just about has the support to run as a sub one. I wanted to see how they'd be received as sub challenges that's all.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:26, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
I just added an article to which I made several improvements. When I went to add it to the section on "Article achievements", there is a message below the most recently added article: "Add an expanded or new article here! Click '[edit source]' to add!" I tried clicking, but there is no hyperlink. Was I looking in the wrong place? (Since there was nowhere to click, I opened the edit screen and scrolled down to the bottom, which was not a problem.) Eagle4000 ( talk) 21:42, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Knope7: @ JJBers: @ Another Believer: @ Brianhe: @ Dr. Blofeld: Related to the above discussion, I think it's time to create create some simple, flexible guidelines for inclusion in this project. Here's a basic draft:
Any suggestions? MB298 ( talk) 05:38, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, @ MB298: for starting this discussion. I would like to see any guidelines expressly say that getting an article to Good Article status counts. It's probably already covered under significant clean-up, but hopefully making it as clear as possible that Good Articles are accepted will encourage editors to pursue that goal. I also think that the guidelines should say about cleaning-up articles that are tagged with some clean-up template.
@ JJBers: I'm not clear on what images would count under your proposed guidelines. Is it only articles tagged as needing images? Should it be articles tagged as needed images or adding multiple images? Knope7 ( talk) 02:02, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Agreed that there should be guidelines. Those above sound perfectly good to me, but there should be something, even if the guidelines are "if you make any edit or create any article, go ahead and add it". Just about setting expectations and for what sort of project it is. I initially felt enthusiastic about this project in part based on seeing that short stubs and minor edits weren't included. But then in clicking through some of the links, and reading some descriptions, I saw an awful lot of very short stubs and minor additions, which admittedly affected my enthusiasm as it suggested maybe it was not what I thought it was (i.e. more of a competition than I anticipated, with people adding minimal content in order to add something to the list, or otherwise a "whatever you want to do is cool" sort of thing -- both of which have value, but neither of which is what I understood to be happening up front). In other words, guidelines describe what the project is, and should be clear and adhered to. But take that with a grain of salt, since I'm just sort of sticking my nose into an endeavor many of you are much more involved with. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:22, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
If not right now, how about ending this as of January 31, and then having a post-mortem discussion party. If there'd be some consensus to end this, I would like (with any other volunteer) to prepare and announce some awards for good accomplishments achieved. -- do ncr am 01:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
The reported count is at 865 now, while there are currently (as of 1/1/2017) 1,365 articles identified as improved in this campaign in Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge by placement of {{ WPUS50}} on Talk pages.(There are currently 9,023 pages in the category by automatically updated count, which updates occasionally.) The discrepancy is partly that pages listed in subchallenge pages are not necessarily copied over to this main page. -- do ncr am 01:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
There has been steady addition of articles to the project page, but after the kerfuffle sometime in late Nov or Early Dec, no one is actually verifying articles and checking them on the list. Will someone from the main project be able to take up the task or should the project just be abandoned due to lack of any interest?-- Kev min § 00:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
I believe that at least for now, that three changes should be made to the sub-projects, due to the problems that have been happening to them.
— JJBers| talk 02:49, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
For song articles, should they be tagged with the state the singer/band is from, or just a USA flag? -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 03:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Project participants might consider browsing Category:Draft-Class United States articles to see if there are any articles worth moving into the main space, and perhaps expanding/improving along the way. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Is there a policy for adding other project icons to the list of article improvements? While it's great that the 420 Collaboration is adding articles to this, I'm not exactly wild about the idea of adding icons to the list. Right now, it looks like we add state flags, ga icons, and the 420 Collab icons. Either we should start adding more icons for other projects or I think maybe don't add the cannabis leaf. Anyone else have thoughts? Knope7 ( talk) 20:18, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Should an American-made documentary about Japan be included here? I'm thinking of The Departure (2017 film). ☆ Bri ( talk) 00:20, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
Many, many new articles are being made that aren't added here. You have to know about this (and remember about it) in order to log an article created, expanded, or what have you. There's lots more activity at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/United States articles by quality log, but much of that may not be of use. Thoughts? – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:54, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I've made a list of editors contributing to the US50 list here. Will update when we hit 1,000 but thought people might see a sneak peek. - Brianhe ( talk) 02:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
It's unclear to me what kind of articles you are looking for. I spend most of my time in Wikiproject Jazz, which is certainly an American subject, though not exclusively American. If these articles work for you, then I'm in. Articles about musicians are not limited to one state. Hope that's OK. I don't want to pick a state.
Vmavanti (
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19:43, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Feel free to revert my changes, but I've collapsed the 2 lists of participants (one separated by U.S. state, another more general), in order to reduce the amount of scrolling needed to add new entries to the list of articles. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This section in a nutshell: Use the talk page template "WPUS50k" to add articles to Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge. Please do so after confirming the article's eligibility. |
Do we want a talk page template to add to articles improved by this challenge? Something along the lines of Template:ArtAndFeminism2015 article or Template:Wiki Culture Crawl 2016. These are helpful because they promote the project and can be used to categorize entries automatically (such as Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge, or whatever). --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:34, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
OK, I created Template:WPUS50k, which can be added to talk pages of appropriate articles to add them to Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge. Of course, others are welcome to edit/improve the template. Perhaps display the American flag instead of the "info" symbol? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:39, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Can this banner ({{ WPUS50}}) be merged into the parent {{ WikiProject United States}} banner as an optional parameter? It seems like the two templates would and should never be used separately and it would slightly clean up some of the clutter on some of the busier talk pages where this template is currently present. - Paul T +/ C 15:48, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
{{WikiProject United States|WPUS50=yes}}
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I'm taking credit for new articles and major improvements since last quarter of 2018. Hope this is OK. Thanks, SWP13 ( talk) 01:46, 25 April 2019 (UTC).
We're only going to be approx. 10% complete after 3 years?! Oof! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 00:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Another Believer, your last 2 articles need your name. Thanks, SWP13 ( talk) 02:43, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Saw this four years ago when it was created. Had to remind myself by looking at my comment above. I thought the idea of destubbifying was a good one, but people seemed to just add any old edits to the list, effectively turning it into a game/competition for WikiProject United States. That's fine, I guess, but four years on, I can't imagine anyone is destubbing articles for this who wasn't going to destub that article otherwise, so it just seems like it's now a counter to see how many articles we create/edit about [a country that's not hurting for representation on the English Wikipedia], rather than an active drive/competition. I was surprised to see the tag some George Floyd protest articles. Presumably it's because my name is on the participants list? IMO what a WikiProject (or other group) wants to do to keep track of how many articles we have is well and good -- I'm not not so sure a four-year-old drive is a good use of article talk page banner space (I certainly haven't created any articles as part of this drive since it started). Hope that doesn't come off as harsh -- it just got me wondering what the point of a drive is if it lasts for years, there are no standards for inclusion, and its participants don't actually know they're participating. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
The list ends at 6500. Need to start a new list 6501-7000. Thanks, SWP13 ( talk) 02:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Is it ok, if I remove the red links from the archived section so that it would be more accurate then what we currently have. HawkAussie ( talk) 02:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I'm not exactly a new Wikipedia editor at this point, but I've only semi-recently started looking beyond just making articles, and into the more behind the scenes administration of Wikipedia, and I have some questions about the 50,000 Challenge. If there are better places I could be asking this, let me know.
So, the 50,000 Challenge is something I found out about fairly early on, but I think I've been contributing to it incorrectly so far. I did not realize that I was supposed to put my articles on a list on the WikiProject page. My main question is this: Should I go back and put the relevant, start and lengthy stub articles (like Lorenzo T. Durand, Vernon J. Brown, and Eugene R. Cater) on this list now, even if some of the articles are more than a year old? Or should I start to just make a habit of putting new articles I make on the lists on the Wikiproject page. All of these pages have been made since the project started in 2016.
RoundSquare ( talk) 05:15, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
MV Rotterdam Express? Or too tenuous a US connection? I think she is regularly involved in California-Asia trade. ☆ Bri ( talk) 21:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Can I update the progress bar to the current distance it should be at? Cherrell410 ( talk) 20:59, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
I've noticed a few disambiguation pages have popped up in the recents section. Shouldn't these be removed? Sounder Bruce 01:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
In Wikipedia:The 50,000 Challenge/Archive 15 8497 my article was deleted due to notability. There is no way that the article can be created I see as the article is about a local mayor. The template said to ask here about changing it so just thought id make this aware Masohpotato ( talk) 21:09, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Currently, there is a discrepancy between the main page's "article achievements" list and Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge because someone added this category to Template:WPEUR10k. I removed this category and posted a note on the template's talk page. Some of the tagged Europe articles still appear in the U.S. category, but I am hoping this will resolved itself soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:56, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Women's March on Seattle was nominated for deletion. It may need expansion to survive as standalone. - Brianhe ( talk) 19:46, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
![]() You are invited to participate in the upcoming which is being held from Saturday, April 15 to Sunday, April 30, and especially on April 20, 2017!The purpose of the collaboration, which is being organized by WikiProject Cannabis, is to create and improve cannabis-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects in a variety of fields, including: culture, health, hemp, history, medicine, politics, and religion. 50,000 Challenge participants may be particularly interested in the following: For more information about this campaign, and to learn how you can help improve Wikipedia, please visit the "420 collaboration" page. |
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Any editors feel like creating/improving some cannabis-related articles and tagging their talk pages with two banners?! :p --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:57, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Is anyone here willing to remove the deletion tag at People's Climate March (2017) per WP:SNOWBALL? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:31, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
WPUS50 participants are invited to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects throughout the month of June as part of the fourth annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign. Feel free to add new and expanded content on the project's Results page. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:55, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I nominated Wikipedia:WikiProject North America/The North America Destubathon for deletion. Feel free to take a look at the talk page, or contribute to the ongoing discussion. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:06, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Some state WikiProjects have helpful links. If anyone wants to volunteer to monitor one or more of these lists, and log their checks, please note your ability to help. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:36, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
In the not-too-distant past, there were mechanisms developed by/for state WPs to monitor recent changes to the project's articles. The one which WP Alaska had was never properly maintained and was subsequently deleted as "routine maintenance" by an admin not involved with the project and with no discussion or consensus. I haven't paid much attention to whether such mechanisms still exist. If they do, perhaps they could be added to the above subpage and monitored in order to address Knope's concerns. As I overlooked this discussion and no one has expressly told me otherwise, I've been monitoring the new Alaska articles log for possible additions to the list. I've taken a subjective approach to such, focusing on article quality or potential for such and not just automatically adding every single thing. I don't really see what the problem is with that. If we're going to limit this to those editors actively contributing, we're going to see more scenarios like the list filling up with copycat permastubs on geographic locations, articles which mostly lack any content besides an infobox and a link to GNIS. I'm seeing more and more of these every time I browse the list, and a random sampling of those articles offers no indication that this is being done with article quality in mind (more on that below).
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions 02:26, 23 November 2016 (UTC)Sorry, no longer interested in participating — I'm seeing far too much subpar crap that will never have potential being created and vigorously defended, plus I'm seeing far too much micromanagment / meddling going occurring on the project side from the same few editors. There's too much of that going on across the encyclopedia in general for me to put up with little fiefdoms of same being created hither and yon on top of it.
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions
02:22, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
The idea is that people choose to join the challenge and contribute specifically towards it, not just a collection of every new article created. And the emphasis is more on existing quality improvements. New entries are fine but stubs which are just a single paragraph I think we'd be best leaving them out. The problem we have is that most people ignore the mess and just create new entries, so the mechanism with the challenge and contest is more designed at motivating people to improve more articles which are already stubs etc. Let's try to get people on board with this and contributing here themselves, it'll be slow getting off the ground but will be better for it long term. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:13, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Please feel free to update. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 00:10, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Feel free to update as the campaign continues. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 00:12, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Dreamland Villa, Arizona was noted on the list as having been nominated for deletion. The AFD closed as keep within the past day or so. Unfortunately, as I referred to in my comments at that AFD, this is evidently encouraging the article's creator to also create a slew of similar articles of even less substance merely to eliminate redlinks in a list which has long been problematic and long been ignored. I don't see how it helps readers who may be browsing a category to come across an untold number of articles consisting of little more than an infobox and a GNIS link, as it can only appeal to those too lazy or stupid to just go straight to GNIS to get the exact same information.
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions 02:26, 23 November 2016 (UTC)Sorry, no longer interested in participating — I'm seeing far too much subpar crap that will never have potential being created and vigorously defended, plus I'm seeing far too much micromanagment / meddling going occurring on the project side from the same few editors. There's too much of that going on across the encyclopedia in general for me to put up with little fiefdoms of same being created hither and yon on top of it.
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions
02:22, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
An item was just added with the CSA flagicon. Oklahoma would seem more appropriate to me as this is WP United States, which CSA is decidedly not... - Brianhe ( talk) 19:27, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
I created the article 2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy, which is currently nominated for deletion. That's fine and all, but I'm noticing there are some red links appearing throughout the article if WPUS50 participants want to help turn red links blue. Thanks for your consideration! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:43, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
If other editors are interested in helping, I've created many redirects to this page: List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America. It would be really helpful to create stubs for many of these entries, especially given the ongoing debate in the U.S. re: Confederate memorials and monuments. I invite all to help with this effort. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:49, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Participants are invited to create and expand articles about individual statues within the National Statuary Hall Collection. See the following link for discussion: Talk:National_Statuary_Hall_Collection#Standalone_article_for_each_sculpture. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:42, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
BTW, the 420 Collaboration to create and improve cannabis-related content runs through the month of April. Challenge participants are invited to participate. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi wikipedians, there was a number display problem in the archive listing. I fixed it. Removed # in front of the "
The list ends at 5000. Need to start a new list 5001-5500. Thanks, SWP13 ( talk) 16:49, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Welcome, or Aloha as they'd say in the islands!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
The initial stage will be to try to get enough interested people to set up a challenge for as many states as possible. Those which only have one or two and not enough can just contribute to the main list here, but feel free anybody to begin adding entries to this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:25, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
Would drafts created prior to the challenge, but not significantly expanded/moved into the mainspace until November, count? I've been meaning to clear my backlog of drafts (in various stages of readiness), but would put it on the backburner for the challenge. Sounder Bruce 22:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Currently, the campaign page asks contributors to list new/expanded articles at the bottom of the list. This list is going to get long pretty quickly. Are we sure we don't want to organize the list alphabetically, and/or by state? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:51, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for developing this, but the people who created those articles need to know about this and be willing to contribute themselves of course. Let's keep it as a general 1-50,000 list, as it will be too difficult to monitor percentage progress with 50 separate ones, but we can create some 1000 sub challenges on sub pages for NY, NJ, Oregon, Washington etc if there is the support and then they can be tipped into this every 100 entries. If anybody can get together a minimum of five active editors for a state challenge I'll create a separate list page. Another reason why it needs ot be a big general list is that some states are way more active than others, NYC would reach 1000 much sooner than Iowa or something. However, if we run a destubathon then we'll organize it by state and have people listing their entries under the given state on the page and we could aim for a target of a certian number of destubs for each state and give a prize to the person who does the most in the time of the contest.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:55, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps moving the contributions/counts to a subpage and transcluding it on the main page would be a better idea. My watchlist is currently clogged with entries, when I would rather be watching the talk page for changes. Sounder Bruce 04:41, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Already seeing that much of the support is East and West. @ Pyrusca:, @ Knope7:, @ Alansohn:, @ Epicgenius:, @ JJBers:, MWright96 if you like I could set up WikiProject United States/The 10,000 East Coast Challenge as a sub challenge of this, and WikiProject United States/The 10,000 West Coast Challenge covering Oregon, Washington and CA etc MB298, Brianhe, Another Believer, SounderBruce? That might have more momentum than individual state challenges with low support. Those would run by themselves and we'd then "tip" the entries into this main list every 100 articles or so. Up to you. This is off to a good start already so perhaps lets focus on just a main one for a while..♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:01, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
I've created an invitation template, inspired by Happybluemo's take on the classic Uncle Sam poster. MB298 ( talk) 02:54, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Yes Ser Amantio di Nicolao can take charge of that sometime, but he's already overworked and underpaid here with invitations and AWB edits! I think for the time being let's try to get a momentum going, get many of the regulars on board and start to build it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:06, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Those count, right? What should I list them as? – Muboshgu ( talk) 02:44, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Currently, the scope includes the 50 U.S. states. Do we want to expand the scope to include Washington, D.C. and/or other territories? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:34, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Yes DC and The Territories can have sections, we can include Puerto Rico, Guam etc, feel free to add them.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:59, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
There are also former territories and occupied foreign territories (though there are none currently occupied) - Wikidemon ( talk) 03:39, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
I feel that New England is ready for a 5,000 challenge with 833 articles per state. Do you guys agree? Or should it wait for a while?— JJBers| talk 18:17, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Hint: Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all part of this.
I'd support that yup, but you'll have to get together some really active editors to make it work. User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao I know can help with alerting people on this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:50, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
I changed the instructions on sub-campaign pages so note than new/expanded articles with check marks means the entry also appears on the campaign's main page. Reconciling the multiple lists and campaign category becomes impossible when all talk pages are tagged, but entries only appear on subpages. I think sub-campaigns are fine, but we should consider the main page list a "master list" of all articles created/improved by the parent (50,000) challenge. If others disagree, please discuss here. Thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:13, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
@ Another Believer: You know the more I think about this the more I think you were right originally to split it by state. Easier to maintain a list on one page. Do you want to reorganize by state and have percentage bars for 1-1000 for each?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:32, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Alright, it may be real early, but constantly dividing by 250 is going to get annoying once we get to something like 2,500 articles. I propose by then we start dividing by 500, then by around 5,000 start dividing into 1,000 article tables with 2 sub tables, 500 each, then around 25,000 start diving into 5,000 article tables, then 1,000 and down to 500. Then at 50,000, divide to two 25,000 article tables, and then down the list to 500. Just a proposal for the near (or far) future. — JJBers| talk 22:46, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
![]() | According to math, we are growing about 35 articles per day, which according to math again, will take about 1,428 days, or just short of 4 years, to get to 50,000 articles. Get ready for boredom... |
The above comment was added by User:JJBers Public, but I figured it should be a credited comment for discussion instead of an anonymous talk page banner. JJBers, feel free to revert, I rarely edit comments by other users but figured we should follow standard talk page discussion format. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:09, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
If editors who might enjoy creating new album articles, Wikipedia:Requested articles/music/Albums may offer some suggestions. Of course, this list is not limited to U.S. artists, but you will recognize some American musicians/groups. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:32, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
WP:WikiProject Women in Red/Military#United States may provide inspiration for project members. Many have multiple links to references that could help a researcher get started. - Brianhe ( talk) 18:11, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Would it be all right if I were to make a participant userbox? It would say something along the lines of "This user is currently participating in The 50,000 Challenge. You can help!" JTP ( talk • contribs) 21:10, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
Edit: Should this be moved to the Wikipedia:
namespace or as a subpage of
Wikipedia:The 50,000 Challenge? I was curious as currently it is just a subpage of my userpage.
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Recommend accepting (checking off) Arizona populated place articles by Onel5969 en masse to help reduce the backlog. - Brianhe ( talk) 16:43, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
Due to Kentucky being at 7 signatures and North Carolina being at 5 signatures, and other states being around 2-4 signatures. I would recommend starting a project similar to
the New England sub-challenge with the states in the
Appalachia region. This includes,
North Carolina,
Tennessee,
Kentucky,
West Virginia, and
Georgia. If you want too, any of you can create, but I would feel it would be deleted if I did.—
JJBers|
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17:42, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
I think we'd be best merging the state ones started into this, too much maintenance and confusion on separate pages I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:38, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
I think it's best if we merge most of the sub challenges and drop the idea. For contests doing regional cluster ones like this is a possibility, but we just haven't the editors to sustain multiple challenges, and it confuses people on knowing where to post the articles. I've merged all but Pacific NW and New England for now. The Pacific one looks like it just about has the support to run as a sub one. I wanted to see how they'd be received as sub challenges that's all.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:26, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
I just added an article to which I made several improvements. When I went to add it to the section on "Article achievements", there is a message below the most recently added article: "Add an expanded or new article here! Click '[edit source]' to add!" I tried clicking, but there is no hyperlink. Was I looking in the wrong place? (Since there was nowhere to click, I opened the edit screen and scrolled down to the bottom, which was not a problem.) Eagle4000 ( talk) 21:42, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Knope7: @ JJBers: @ Another Believer: @ Brianhe: @ Dr. Blofeld: Related to the above discussion, I think it's time to create create some simple, flexible guidelines for inclusion in this project. Here's a basic draft:
Any suggestions? MB298 ( talk) 05:38, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, @ MB298: for starting this discussion. I would like to see any guidelines expressly say that getting an article to Good Article status counts. It's probably already covered under significant clean-up, but hopefully making it as clear as possible that Good Articles are accepted will encourage editors to pursue that goal. I also think that the guidelines should say about cleaning-up articles that are tagged with some clean-up template.
@ JJBers: I'm not clear on what images would count under your proposed guidelines. Is it only articles tagged as needing images? Should it be articles tagged as needed images or adding multiple images? Knope7 ( talk) 02:02, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Agreed that there should be guidelines. Those above sound perfectly good to me, but there should be something, even if the guidelines are "if you make any edit or create any article, go ahead and add it". Just about setting expectations and for what sort of project it is. I initially felt enthusiastic about this project in part based on seeing that short stubs and minor edits weren't included. But then in clicking through some of the links, and reading some descriptions, I saw an awful lot of very short stubs and minor additions, which admittedly affected my enthusiasm as it suggested maybe it was not what I thought it was (i.e. more of a competition than I anticipated, with people adding minimal content in order to add something to the list, or otherwise a "whatever you want to do is cool" sort of thing -- both of which have value, but neither of which is what I understood to be happening up front). In other words, guidelines describe what the project is, and should be clear and adhered to. But take that with a grain of salt, since I'm just sort of sticking my nose into an endeavor many of you are much more involved with. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:22, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
If not right now, how about ending this as of January 31, and then having a post-mortem discussion party. If there'd be some consensus to end this, I would like (with any other volunteer) to prepare and announce some awards for good accomplishments achieved. -- do ncr am 01:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
The reported count is at 865 now, while there are currently (as of 1/1/2017) 1,365 articles identified as improved in this campaign in Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge by placement of {{ WPUS50}} on Talk pages.(There are currently 9,023 pages in the category by automatically updated count, which updates occasionally.) The discrepancy is partly that pages listed in subchallenge pages are not necessarily copied over to this main page. -- do ncr am 01:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
There has been steady addition of articles to the project page, but after the kerfuffle sometime in late Nov or Early Dec, no one is actually verifying articles and checking them on the list. Will someone from the main project be able to take up the task or should the project just be abandoned due to lack of any interest?-- Kev min § 00:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
I believe that at least for now, that three changes should be made to the sub-projects, due to the problems that have been happening to them.
— JJBers| talk 02:49, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
For song articles, should they be tagged with the state the singer/band is from, or just a USA flag? -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 03:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Project participants might consider browsing Category:Draft-Class United States articles to see if there are any articles worth moving into the main space, and perhaps expanding/improving along the way. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Is there a policy for adding other project icons to the list of article improvements? While it's great that the 420 Collaboration is adding articles to this, I'm not exactly wild about the idea of adding icons to the list. Right now, it looks like we add state flags, ga icons, and the 420 Collab icons. Either we should start adding more icons for other projects or I think maybe don't add the cannabis leaf. Anyone else have thoughts? Knope7 ( talk) 20:18, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Should an American-made documentary about Japan be included here? I'm thinking of The Departure (2017 film). ☆ Bri ( talk) 00:20, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
Many, many new articles are being made that aren't added here. You have to know about this (and remember about it) in order to log an article created, expanded, or what have you. There's lots more activity at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/United States articles by quality log, but much of that may not be of use. Thoughts? – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:54, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I've made a list of editors contributing to the US50 list here. Will update when we hit 1,000 but thought people might see a sneak peek. - Brianhe ( talk) 02:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
It's unclear to me what kind of articles you are looking for. I spend most of my time in Wikiproject Jazz, which is certainly an American subject, though not exclusively American. If these articles work for you, then I'm in. Articles about musicians are not limited to one state. Hope that's OK. I don't want to pick a state.
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Feel free to revert my changes, but I've collapsed the 2 lists of participants (one separated by U.S. state, another more general), in order to reduce the amount of scrolling needed to add new entries to the list of articles. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This section in a nutshell: Use the talk page template "WPUS50k" to add articles to Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge. Please do so after confirming the article's eligibility. |
Do we want a talk page template to add to articles improved by this challenge? Something along the lines of Template:ArtAndFeminism2015 article or Template:Wiki Culture Crawl 2016. These are helpful because they promote the project and can be used to categorize entries automatically (such as Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge, or whatever). --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:34, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
OK, I created Template:WPUS50k, which can be added to talk pages of appropriate articles to add them to Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject United States' 50,000 Challenge. Of course, others are welcome to edit/improve the template. Perhaps display the American flag instead of the "info" symbol? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:39, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Can this banner ({{ WPUS50}}) be merged into the parent {{ WikiProject United States}} banner as an optional parameter? It seems like the two templates would and should never be used separately and it would slightly clean up some of the clutter on some of the busier talk pages where this template is currently present. - Paul T +/ C 15:48, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
{{WikiProject United States|WPUS50=yes}}
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I'm taking credit for new articles and major improvements since last quarter of 2018. Hope this is OK. Thanks, SWP13 ( talk) 01:46, 25 April 2019 (UTC).
We're only going to be approx. 10% complete after 3 years?! Oof! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 00:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Another Believer, your last 2 articles need your name. Thanks, SWP13 ( talk) 02:43, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Saw this four years ago when it was created. Had to remind myself by looking at my comment above. I thought the idea of destubbifying was a good one, but people seemed to just add any old edits to the list, effectively turning it into a game/competition for WikiProject United States. That's fine, I guess, but four years on, I can't imagine anyone is destubbing articles for this who wasn't going to destub that article otherwise, so it just seems like it's now a counter to see how many articles we create/edit about [a country that's not hurting for representation on the English Wikipedia], rather than an active drive/competition. I was surprised to see the tag some George Floyd protest articles. Presumably it's because my name is on the participants list? IMO what a WikiProject (or other group) wants to do to keep track of how many articles we have is well and good -- I'm not not so sure a four-year-old drive is a good use of article talk page banner space (I certainly haven't created any articles as part of this drive since it started). Hope that doesn't come off as harsh -- it just got me wondering what the point of a drive is if it lasts for years, there are no standards for inclusion, and its participants don't actually know they're participating. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
The list ends at 6500. Need to start a new list 6501-7000. Thanks, SWP13 ( talk) 02:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Is it ok, if I remove the red links from the archived section so that it would be more accurate then what we currently have. HawkAussie ( talk) 02:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I'm not exactly a new Wikipedia editor at this point, but I've only semi-recently started looking beyond just making articles, and into the more behind the scenes administration of Wikipedia, and I have some questions about the 50,000 Challenge. If there are better places I could be asking this, let me know.
So, the 50,000 Challenge is something I found out about fairly early on, but I think I've been contributing to it incorrectly so far. I did not realize that I was supposed to put my articles on a list on the WikiProject page. My main question is this: Should I go back and put the relevant, start and lengthy stub articles (like Lorenzo T. Durand, Vernon J. Brown, and Eugene R. Cater) on this list now, even if some of the articles are more than a year old? Or should I start to just make a habit of putting new articles I make on the lists on the Wikiproject page. All of these pages have been made since the project started in 2016.
RoundSquare ( talk) 05:15, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
MV Rotterdam Express? Or too tenuous a US connection? I think she is regularly involved in California-Asia trade. ☆ Bri ( talk) 21:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Can I update the progress bar to the current distance it should be at? Cherrell410 ( talk) 20:59, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
I've noticed a few disambiguation pages have popped up in the recents section. Shouldn't these be removed? Sounder Bruce 01:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
In Wikipedia:The 50,000 Challenge/Archive 15 8497 my article was deleted due to notability. There is no way that the article can be created I see as the article is about a local mayor. The template said to ask here about changing it so just thought id make this aware Masohpotato ( talk) 21:09, 6 June 2023 (UTC)