nr. | GHcool's argument | JaapBoBo's refutations |
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9 | criticism of Laila Parsons [1] |
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10 |
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11 | The Finkelstein material in question only mirrors the "Master Plan" explanation proposed by Walid Khalidi and Ilan Pappe. | Finkelstein says something completely different. Pappe and Khalidi say things about the preparation and execution of a master plan. Finkelstein says something about Zionist beliefs that induced them to do such a thing. Zionists believed they had a preemptive right to the Land of Israel. |
12 | JaapBoBo's last post grossly misrepresents Finkelstein. | I am not misrepresenting Finkelstein. On what point am I misrepresenting him? |
13 | GHcool proposes a new policy guideline: (2) The "Causes of the 1948 Palestinian exodus" article should include information from all sources considered reliable in some circles including (especially?) sources considered unreliable in other circles. |
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To all involved:
It has come to my attention that at least one editor has been
contacting our mediator, Tariqabjotu, with the specific intention of undermining my position in the mediation and turning the mediator against me. This is absolutely unacceptable to me and I assume it would be unacceptable to JaapBoBo as well. If I catch this kind of activity again, I will have no choice but to immediately discontinue my role in the mediation and return to the
status quo ante while coming to no compromise on this issue. The mediation will be over and my and JaapBoBo's original hopes to come to some kind of mutual agreement will be shot down. I repeat: If I catch any more attempts at undermining the neutrality of the mediation or the mediator(s) by any editors outside of the mediation process or off of the mediation page, I will immediately quit the mediation, the mediation will be a failure, and I will be less willing to to compromise in the future than I am now. I cannot stress this enough or make it more clear and I am not open to negotiation about this problem or my reaction to it. --
GHcool (
talk)
02:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
As I wrote here, I accept Sm8900's argument and appreciate PalestineRemembered's promise not to derail the mediation any further by contacting the mediator and to abide by whatever compromise I and JaapBoBo reach together. I will ask that the mediation be kept public, however, if I begin again to believe that the neutrality of the mediation is being undermined or if it appears futile because certain editors don't consider the compromise as being binding, then I will immediately discontinue my involvement in the mediation and it will fail. This is in nobody's interest and therefore I am optimistic that we can proceed without further interruptions. -- GHcool ( talk) 20:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
nr. | GHcool's argument | JaapBoBo's refutations |
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9 | criticism of Laila Parsons [1] |
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10 |
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11 | The Finkelstein material in question only mirrors the "Master Plan" explanation proposed by Walid Khalidi and Ilan Pappe. | Finkelstein says something completely different. Pappe and Khalidi say things about the preparation and execution of a master plan. Finkelstein says something about Zionist beliefs that induced them to do such a thing. Zionists believed they had a preemptive right to the Land of Israel. |
12 | JaapBoBo's last post grossly misrepresents Finkelstein. | I am not misrepresenting Finkelstein. On what point am I misrepresenting him? |
13 | GHcool proposes a new policy guideline: (2) The "Causes of the 1948 Palestinian exodus" article should include information from all sources considered reliable in some circles including (especially?) sources considered unreliable in other circles. |
|
To all involved:
It has come to my attention that at least one editor has been
contacting our mediator, Tariqabjotu, with the specific intention of undermining my position in the mediation and turning the mediator against me. This is absolutely unacceptable to me and I assume it would be unacceptable to JaapBoBo as well. If I catch this kind of activity again, I will have no choice but to immediately discontinue my role in the mediation and return to the
status quo ante while coming to no compromise on this issue. The mediation will be over and my and JaapBoBo's original hopes to come to some kind of mutual agreement will be shot down. I repeat: If I catch any more attempts at undermining the neutrality of the mediation or the mediator(s) by any editors outside of the mediation process or off of the mediation page, I will immediately quit the mediation, the mediation will be a failure, and I will be less willing to to compromise in the future than I am now. I cannot stress this enough or make it more clear and I am not open to negotiation about this problem or my reaction to it. --
GHcool (
talk)
02:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
As I wrote here, I accept Sm8900's argument and appreciate PalestineRemembered's promise not to derail the mediation any further by contacting the mediator and to abide by whatever compromise I and JaapBoBo reach together. I will ask that the mediation be kept public, however, if I begin again to believe that the neutrality of the mediation is being undermined or if it appears futile because certain editors don't consider the compromise as being binding, then I will immediately discontinue my involvement in the mediation and it will fail. This is in nobody's interest and therefore I am optimistic that we can proceed without further interruptions. -- GHcool ( talk) 20:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)