Edit Stats; Run on [1] just now Johnbod 04:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Category talk: 22 Category: 151 Help talk: 2 Help: 1 Image talk: 8 Image: 106 Mainspace 6112 Portal talk: 2 Portal: 1 Talk: 2577 Template talk: 50 Template: 145 User talk: 736 User: 162 Wikipedia talk: 187 Wikipedia: 967 avg edits per page 2.75 earliest 15:22, 19 December 2005 number of unique pages 4090 total 11229 Most edited pages: Mainspace 160 Jesus 92 Mary (mother of Jesus) 89 Gospel of John 89 Pro-life 89 Book of Revelation 83 Emergency contraception 81 Domestic violence 69 Gospel of Matthew 65 Historical Jesus 61 Intact dilation and extraction 60 Death and resurrection of Jesus 57 Mary Magdalene 54 Birth control 53 Gospel of Luke 50 Pro-choice Talk: 292 Jesus 147 Abortion 112 Abortion/First paragraph 79 Pro-life 79 Roman Catholic Church 73 Emergency contraception 53 Fetus 42 Historicity of Jesus 37 Intact dilation and extraction 35 Christianity 34 Historical Jesus 33 Gospel of John 33 Mifepristone 31 Gospel of Mark 30 Abortion-related violence Wikipedia: 56 Reference desk/Language 27 Categories for discussion/Working 25 Graphic Lab/Images to improve 21 Administrators' noticeboard/3RR 15 Categories for discussion/Log/2007 June 22 14 Categories for discussion/Log/2007 April 18 11 Reference desk/Archives/Language/February 2007 10 Categories for deletion/Log/2006 August 29 10 Help desk 10 Reference desk/Miscellaneous 9 Administrator intervention against vandalism 8 Categories for discussion/Log/2007 February 15 8 Reference desk/Science 7 Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 1 7 Requests for checkuser/Case/Dr Lisboa Wikipedia talk: 14 WikiProject Abortion 10 Requested moves 9 WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy 7 Naming conventions 7 WikiProject Biography 7 No original research 7 Manual of Style (dates and numbers) 7 WikiProject Catholicism/Collaboration 6 Featured picture candidates 6 Citing sources 5 WikiProject Christianity 5 WikiProject Catholicism 5 WikiProject Graphic design 4 Preparing images for upload 4 Requests for comment/Bishonen 2
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Thanks for bringing up your concern. I believe this is a special case, and not representative of my warning of anons. I use the templates for obvious vandalism, and try to write personalize messages for WP:EL and other not obvious vandalism issues. However, I've been watching Catholic Church (disambiguation) for a while now (first edit was on 3 July 2006). I have noticed a pattern. An anon editor comes along and bolds only one of the roughly dozen churches listed in the lead. 10:30, 7 July 2006 14:45, 7 July 2006 06:40, 12 July 2006 09:42, 13 July 2006 09:47, 13 July 2006 13:16, 13 July 2006 15:11, 18 July 2006 06:52, 19 July 2006 20 July 2006 01:34, 21 July 2006 11:57, 22 July 2006 01:02, 28 July 2006 13:30, 28 July 2006 02:39, 29 July 2006 10:31, 1 August 2006 12:04, 13 September 2006 (ok, I'm going to stop listing them, I think I've made my point. the edits continue) All of these edits inserted the bolding of the RCC. I believe this was the first diff of a revert 07:26, 7 July 2006 the editor was User:TSP and edit summary was Revert; Roman Catholic Church does not point here, so that term should not be in bold; and the Pope is only "Supreme Pontiff" to those who recognise his primacy, making this title meaningless. Myself, TSP, User:Garzo, User:Fishhead64, and probably others all reverted these edits. You can see by Novemeber, I had become frustrated with my [ summary PLEASE stop. rv bolding by repeated vandal. This is also when I went to talk: Talk:Catholic Church (disambiguation)#Slow edit war, where the user replied with a cryptic message. When the same edits started to arise again recently, I started warning the user, (i.e. [2], [3], and [4]). You will note that I started in with the template with the 3rd warning, but when the vandalism happened again, I warned with the 3rd warning again. This was an example of me being cautious. While I personally believe that a) based on the similar IP addresses (mostly all starting with 210.213..) I believe that this is either the same editor, or that the edits in question are related and b) based on the history of this page, that the editor should know better, plus the talk page comment, reverts by multiple editors, and now warnings also bolster the case that the editor should know better. That said, I however, did not feel comfortable giving a last warning on an anon editor with no contribution history (even though in my gut, based on the IP address similarity, I think it is the same person). Taking rash actions based on a gut feeling isn't always prudent. In retrospect, I could have tried to dialog even more with the user, but it seems like the purpose of this user's actions on wikipedia is to insert bold marks around the phrase Roman Catholic Church, and nothing more. Thanks for bringing up this issue, and I hope I have been able to at least give my perspective and share some background on the 'conflict'.- Andrew c 23:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Edit Stats; Run on [1] just now Johnbod 04:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Category talk: 22 Category: 151 Help talk: 2 Help: 1 Image talk: 8 Image: 106 Mainspace 6112 Portal talk: 2 Portal: 1 Talk: 2577 Template talk: 50 Template: 145 User talk: 736 User: 162 Wikipedia talk: 187 Wikipedia: 967 avg edits per page 2.75 earliest 15:22, 19 December 2005 number of unique pages 4090 total 11229 Most edited pages: Mainspace 160 Jesus 92 Mary (mother of Jesus) 89 Gospel of John 89 Pro-life 89 Book of Revelation 83 Emergency contraception 81 Domestic violence 69 Gospel of Matthew 65 Historical Jesus 61 Intact dilation and extraction 60 Death and resurrection of Jesus 57 Mary Magdalene 54 Birth control 53 Gospel of Luke 50 Pro-choice Talk: 292 Jesus 147 Abortion 112 Abortion/First paragraph 79 Pro-life 79 Roman Catholic Church 73 Emergency contraception 53 Fetus 42 Historicity of Jesus 37 Intact dilation and extraction 35 Christianity 34 Historical Jesus 33 Gospel of John 33 Mifepristone 31 Gospel of Mark 30 Abortion-related violence Wikipedia: 56 Reference desk/Language 27 Categories for discussion/Working 25 Graphic Lab/Images to improve 21 Administrators' noticeboard/3RR 15 Categories for discussion/Log/2007 June 22 14 Categories for discussion/Log/2007 April 18 11 Reference desk/Archives/Language/February 2007 10 Categories for deletion/Log/2006 August 29 10 Help desk 10 Reference desk/Miscellaneous 9 Administrator intervention against vandalism 8 Categories for discussion/Log/2007 February 15 8 Reference desk/Science 7 Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 1 7 Requests for checkuser/Case/Dr Lisboa Wikipedia talk: 14 WikiProject Abortion 10 Requested moves 9 WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy 7 Naming conventions 7 WikiProject Biography 7 No original research 7 Manual of Style (dates and numbers) 7 WikiProject Catholicism/Collaboration 6 Featured picture candidates 6 Citing sources 5 WikiProject Christianity 5 WikiProject Catholicism 5 WikiProject Graphic design 4 Preparing images for upload 4 Requests for comment/Bishonen 2
and more....
Thanks for bringing up your concern. I believe this is a special case, and not representative of my warning of anons. I use the templates for obvious vandalism, and try to write personalize messages for WP:EL and other not obvious vandalism issues. However, I've been watching Catholic Church (disambiguation) for a while now (first edit was on 3 July 2006). I have noticed a pattern. An anon editor comes along and bolds only one of the roughly dozen churches listed in the lead. 10:30, 7 July 2006 14:45, 7 July 2006 06:40, 12 July 2006 09:42, 13 July 2006 09:47, 13 July 2006 13:16, 13 July 2006 15:11, 18 July 2006 06:52, 19 July 2006 20 July 2006 01:34, 21 July 2006 11:57, 22 July 2006 01:02, 28 July 2006 13:30, 28 July 2006 02:39, 29 July 2006 10:31, 1 August 2006 12:04, 13 September 2006 (ok, I'm going to stop listing them, I think I've made my point. the edits continue) All of these edits inserted the bolding of the RCC. I believe this was the first diff of a revert 07:26, 7 July 2006 the editor was User:TSP and edit summary was Revert; Roman Catholic Church does not point here, so that term should not be in bold; and the Pope is only "Supreme Pontiff" to those who recognise his primacy, making this title meaningless. Myself, TSP, User:Garzo, User:Fishhead64, and probably others all reverted these edits. You can see by Novemeber, I had become frustrated with my [ summary PLEASE stop. rv bolding by repeated vandal. This is also when I went to talk: Talk:Catholic Church (disambiguation)#Slow edit war, where the user replied with a cryptic message. When the same edits started to arise again recently, I started warning the user, (i.e. [2], [3], and [4]). You will note that I started in with the template with the 3rd warning, but when the vandalism happened again, I warned with the 3rd warning again. This was an example of me being cautious. While I personally believe that a) based on the similar IP addresses (mostly all starting with 210.213..) I believe that this is either the same editor, or that the edits in question are related and b) based on the history of this page, that the editor should know better, plus the talk page comment, reverts by multiple editors, and now warnings also bolster the case that the editor should know better. That said, I however, did not feel comfortable giving a last warning on an anon editor with no contribution history (even though in my gut, based on the IP address similarity, I think it is the same person). Taking rash actions based on a gut feeling isn't always prudent. In retrospect, I could have tried to dialog even more with the user, but it seems like the purpose of this user's actions on wikipedia is to insert bold marks around the phrase Roman Catholic Church, and nothing more. Thanks for bringing up this issue, and I hope I have been able to at least give my perspective and share some background on the 'conflict'.- Andrew c 23:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)