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The medical manual of style says, "special populations" and the one here says, "specific populations". The smaller community of contributors here is here at the Pharm MOS. How would people here feel about changing the term to be "special populations" to match the use at the medical guide? If that does not sound agreeable, I will check for opinions at MEDMOS about changing theirs to match this one, or otherwise seeking some kind plan to use the same term. It is the same concept, right? Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:01, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Right now "special populations" is listed as a subsection of "uses", which is ordered to be first. In WP:MEDMOS special populations is ordered to be last in the article. I think that it would be useful to have the same practice in medicine and pharmacy.
I suppose that the argument about placing "specific populations" first as a subsection of uses is that the uses section is the appropriate place to describe usage.
I suppose that the argument about placing "specific populations" last in its own subsection is that information about specific populations will typically not be relevant to the general audience. The "uses" section, being first, should be kept as simple and concise as possible for the general reader. Also by putting "specific populations" at the end, the inclusion of very specific or fringe cases is better placed with the lower-quality article real estate at the bottom. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:01, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Aren't the "Special populations" subsections in MEDMOS for "Surgeries and procedures" and "Diseases, disorders, and syndromes" rather than drugs? Are we trying to align PHARMMOS with just the drugs section of MEDMOS or all of MEDMOS? Sizeofint ( talk) 17:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Drug prescribing information doesn't uniformly use these terms, but when they're included in the Rx info they usually are placed under a "Pharmacokinetics" heading; e.g., see amphetamine brand Dyanavel XR (uses "Specific populations"), amphetamine brand Adderall XR (uses "Specific populations" and "Special populations"), nitazoxanide brand Alinia (uses "Special populations"). That said, since there's <30 articles that include a section title which contains either term ("specific populations" or "special populations") and drug Rx info isn't consistent with respect to the use of these terms, I'm not sure that it's really worth specifying where to place these sections in the MOS. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 01:25, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
There's a proposal at WT:PHARM#Physical and chemical properties section name to change the "Physical and chemical properties" section header to "Chemistry" in MOS:MED#Drugs, treatments, and devices and MOS:PHARM. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 11:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
In the face of brandname spam and in light of the language about listing brands in this guidelines, which people interpret as preventing removal of brandnamespam, I have started to do this in articles. (that was of course after a spammer did this which called my attention to brands listed in that article). This is stupid to me but I see no other way to manage brands. Jytdog ( talk) 23:21, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
I did my best to organize that content in these edits Special:diff/736097698/736104666; I can't really think of any way of improving upon that. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 05:50, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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@ WhatamIdoing: I realize that this page isn't actually indexed as part of the general MOS guideline (e.g., it's not listed in Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (science), template:Style, or template:style wide); however, considering that the vast majority of this page is just a concise repetition of relevant statements in MOS:MED that pertain to drug articles (+a few minor details in some places), isn't this technically just a subpage of MOS:MED that covers specific guidelines that are relevant to drugs, analogous to how MOS:CHEM/Structure is a subpage of MOS:CHEM that covers specific guidelines that are relevant to structure diagrams?
For context, MOS:CHEM/Structure is not indexed as part of the general MOS: guideline, but it's indexed as a subpage of MOS:CHEM, which is part of the MOS (i.e., see the navbox template to the right). Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 22:36, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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There are a few drugs like thiopental and pancuronium that are used in the lethal injection and euthanasia and I am wondering where is the appropriate place to mention these uses? I think most people would agree they're not medical uses per se, nor are they recreational uses per se. Guessing a separate subsection of "Society and culture"? Fuse809 ( contribs · email · talk · uploads) 15:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
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The medical manual of style says, "special populations" and the one here says, "specific populations". The smaller community of contributors here is here at the Pharm MOS. How would people here feel about changing the term to be "special populations" to match the use at the medical guide? If that does not sound agreeable, I will check for opinions at MEDMOS about changing theirs to match this one, or otherwise seeking some kind plan to use the same term. It is the same concept, right? Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:01, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Right now "special populations" is listed as a subsection of "uses", which is ordered to be first. In WP:MEDMOS special populations is ordered to be last in the article. I think that it would be useful to have the same practice in medicine and pharmacy.
I suppose that the argument about placing "specific populations" first as a subsection of uses is that the uses section is the appropriate place to describe usage.
I suppose that the argument about placing "specific populations" last in its own subsection is that information about specific populations will typically not be relevant to the general audience. The "uses" section, being first, should be kept as simple and concise as possible for the general reader. Also by putting "specific populations" at the end, the inclusion of very specific or fringe cases is better placed with the lower-quality article real estate at the bottom. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:01, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Aren't the "Special populations" subsections in MEDMOS for "Surgeries and procedures" and "Diseases, disorders, and syndromes" rather than drugs? Are we trying to align PHARMMOS with just the drugs section of MEDMOS or all of MEDMOS? Sizeofint ( talk) 17:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Drug prescribing information doesn't uniformly use these terms, but when they're included in the Rx info they usually are placed under a "Pharmacokinetics" heading; e.g., see amphetamine brand Dyanavel XR (uses "Specific populations"), amphetamine brand Adderall XR (uses "Specific populations" and "Special populations"), nitazoxanide brand Alinia (uses "Special populations"). That said, since there's <30 articles that include a section title which contains either term ("specific populations" or "special populations") and drug Rx info isn't consistent with respect to the use of these terms, I'm not sure that it's really worth specifying where to place these sections in the MOS. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 01:25, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
There's a proposal at WT:PHARM#Physical and chemical properties section name to change the "Physical and chemical properties" section header to "Chemistry" in MOS:MED#Drugs, treatments, and devices and MOS:PHARM. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 11:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
In the face of brandname spam and in light of the language about listing brands in this guidelines, which people interpret as preventing removal of brandnamespam, I have started to do this in articles. (that was of course after a spammer did this which called my attention to brands listed in that article). This is stupid to me but I see no other way to manage brands. Jytdog ( talk) 23:21, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
I did my best to organize that content in these edits Special:diff/736097698/736104666; I can't really think of any way of improving upon that. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 05:50, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Manual of Style |
Chemistry |
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Categories |
@ WhatamIdoing: I realize that this page isn't actually indexed as part of the general MOS guideline (e.g., it's not listed in Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (science), template:Style, or template:style wide); however, considering that the vast majority of this page is just a concise repetition of relevant statements in MOS:MED that pertain to drug articles (+a few minor details in some places), isn't this technically just a subpage of MOS:MED that covers specific guidelines that are relevant to drugs, analogous to how MOS:CHEM/Structure is a subpage of MOS:CHEM that covers specific guidelines that are relevant to structure diagrams?
For context, MOS:CHEM/Structure is not indexed as part of the general MOS: guideline, but it's indexed as a subpage of MOS:CHEM, which is part of the MOS (i.e., see the navbox template to the right). Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 22:36, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
{{
Main article}}
hatnote to link to it instead of elaborating on that page.
Seppi333 (
Insert 2¢)
02:14, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
There are a few drugs like thiopental and pancuronium that are used in the lethal injection and euthanasia and I am wondering where is the appropriate place to mention these uses? I think most people would agree they're not medical uses per se, nor are they recreational uses per se. Guessing a separate subsection of "Society and culture"? Fuse809 ( contribs · email · talk · uploads) 15:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)