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Hi. Do we have a policy on how to identify the scions of the erstwhile princely states in India. I made a change at this article but it would be good to have a clear policy in place (likely to be many others). -- RegentsPark ( comment) 14:56, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Yes, that is what I meant. They are sportwomen, hotel magnates, etc as Mr and Mrs Singh. The problem is that they are constitutionally mandated to be Mr and Mrs Singh by the 26th amendment. Even if they have a frivolous case or two in the courts, the Constitution cannot be overturned by a court. It needs a two-thirds majority in both houses of parliament. No Indian government (of the right or left) will ever revisit that issue even if they had the majority. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 16:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
No disagreement there. I had mentioned the Constitution of India in the context only of RP's point about some "royal" claimants attempting to pursue the matter in the courts. See my argument about the sources below. I mean the evidence in the sources is devastatingly unanimous. As for the local people inviting them to a community event @ RegentsPark: had himself written an eloquently finessed description. Hold on, I will dig it up. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 17:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
In my view, the footnote should be a full sentence in the main body; otherwise, it can give a confusing message. Also, it should be "crown Khan as the 'tenth Nawab of Pataudi' ." Without making that clear, we will be again giving a confusing message. Clearly he is not the Nawab his father was until 1971, nor his father the Nawab his grandfather was until 1947. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 17:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC) Clarified further. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 18:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)Khan was born on 16 August 1970 in New Delhi, India to Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi, a former captain of the Indian national cricket team, and his wife Sharmila Tagore, a film actress. [1] [2] From 1952 to 1971, Pataudi held the title of Nawab of Pataudi, but following his death a pagri ceremony was held in the village of Pataudi, Haryana to crown Khan as the tenth Nawab of Pataudi.Footnote: Official recognition of titles was ended by the Government of India in 1971 but Khan attended the ceremony to please the sentiments of the villagers, who wanted him to continue the family tradition. [3]
The logic, in my view, is straightforward. WP rules and guidelines require us to pay attention to secondary sources, especially WP:SCHOLARSHIP for reliability and to WP:TERTIARY for due weight. This is not rocket science. It seems fairly clear that the titles were abolished, beyond RP's important logical fallacy that is: If X state does not exist how can Y be the Maharaja (ruler) of X? The reliable trade non-fiction suggests the same. Please don't add or subtract anything from my sources. There is a discussion section below. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 17:39, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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help page).@ Fowler&fowler: clearly I was wrong to assume that the present scions are only notable as per WP for being sportspersons or business magnates and not because of their titles. Yaduveer Krishnadatta Chamaraja Wadiyar is notable for being the Maharaja of Mysore. A similar case is Shahu II of Kolhapur. defcon5 ( talk) 10:17, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
I don't care what terms WP uses for the Europeans. In WP:SCHOLARSHIP there is no precedent whatsoever for any descendant of a former Indian princely state to be called a "pretender," "claimant to a throne," "claimant to a title," or any equivalent formulation. They might be styling themselves as Maharajas, Rajas, Nawabs, Custodians the House of X, Head of the House of Y, etc or the celebrity media might be in their lieu, with an eye to the tourists who are eternally drawn by the allure of princely India. That I've stated is an entirely different thing, with a small scholarly literature, which I will taken into mind when I finish the proposal tomorrow AM. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 15:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm not interested in issues of notability. Please see my reply here to DEFCON5. Notability, as I say in the reply, is unrelated to the Raj. I'm interested only in language that describes a person's relation to the ruler of a princely state that is supported both in WP:SCHOLARSHIP and WP:TERTIARY. Nor am I interested in rationales for the rulers of the large princely states and most others sitting out the Indian rebellion of 1857. (Had they all chosen to join, it is not clear at all that the British would have survived in India, at least in the near term.) When we make a big to-do about one group, we discriminate against others. But that is not my main concern, which as I say above is to establish a common language for describing all descendants if they are notable. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
This is a sidetrack but it is somehow releated to the use of titles in India. The government of India clearly states that Bharat Ratna and Padma awards are not titles and cannot be used as prefix or suffix to names. See here But a lot of Wikipedia articles use them as honorifics and titles. Eg. Sumitra Guha, Nandalal Bose, Teejan Bai, Nanaji Deshmukh. If any policy regarding titles is formed, this should also be included. defcon5 ( talk) 14:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
There is a misconception among Indian Hindus that a person born in a so-called "High Caste" is different from the rest. Let us take an example of the modern-day Brahmin & Kshatriya caste or community.
A person who never read, nor touched a single Hindu scripture in his entire life, will still be labelled a Brahmin! just because he is born in a family of self-proclaimed "High birth, Upper Caste". I urge Hindus to read their scriptures to get the definition of a Brahmin before labelling anyone whomsoever in open. Next, we have our modern-day Kshatriya castes & communities, a person who never hold a sword nor indulged in any kind of battle or warfares in his entire life are still labelled Kshatriya. They boast of their identity of Warrior class lineage.
These delusional beliefs make them believe Somehow they are indifferent from the rest. Frankly, speaking this 15th-century insanity may be promoted & defended by a bunch of illiterate rural Indian villagers who are known to be the chief architects of Indian casteism & racism & the Indian politicians who are well known to fuel this age-old insanity to satisfy the ego of their vote-banks.
The Kingship-Monarchy and Brahminical caste-hierarchy were abolished centuries ago by the Hammer of Law & after the advent of the Indian constitution such Racism & Casteism prevalent among Hindus has been controlled to some extent in rural areas still the majority of uneducated villagers boasting in their occupations of their forefather's believed themselves to be something "Born twice, Born thrice", High Birth as high as the Sky, indifferent from the rest prefer to call themselves Upper castes only to justify their delusions.
If someone belongs to the Hindu religion, then automatically he will be attached to a particular caste according to his surname which I found not only to be dogmatic but also draconian & absurd.
Even in this 21st century Indian Hindus still believes they are attached to a particular caste & community even if that person never did any stuff unlike his forefathers to suit their occupation according to their caste & clan. Hindu religion might be the origin of Indian-casteism (a.k.a the last fort of Caste-hierarchy on earth). These Rural Casteist beliefs should not be propagated, not in this way. Such absurdity may be prevalent among self-proclaimed "high birth Hindus" living in a delusion & rural Indian villagers believing the majority of the Indian residents are somehow inferior since they are born in a particular so-called "Upper Caste". It does remind me of the Nazi Racial Supremacy. This is where it strikes me.
So, therefore, I urge to remove all castes attached to Indians over Wikipedia. ChongPong|Talk, 2:25, 22 September 2021 (UTC) ChongPong ( talk) 20:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello, i noticed there are lots of unreliable sources on 2021 West Bengal Legislative Assembly election#Surveys and polls, like NK Digital Magazine, Sudarshan News, Ekhon Biswa Bangla Sangbad etc. It would be great if someone clean the section. Thanks -- আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 15:35, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Belagaavi Airport#Requested move 25 September 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 12:42, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Input is needed at this AFD. All opinions welcome. 4meter4 ( talk) 02:53, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
You may be aware that we operate a live help desk via IRC. On a typical day more than 75% of the queries we get are India related. I would be very grateful if experienced editors who have familiarity with Indian languages and cultures would join us. If you are interested, please just come to IRC chat and tell the existing editors that you would like to help out. -- Salimfadhley ( talk) 12:27, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
The problems with The Times of India are now well-recognised. I notice gremlins randomly adding WP:REFSPAM for The Times of India. I suggest that we add {{unreliable-source?|reason=[[WP:TOI]]}} tag to all citations to the Times of India and delete them wherever possible. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:14, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Tayi Arajakate, can you kindly check the usage of Times Now and Zee News across en-wiki articles? I cannot make the tool work. TrangaBellam ( talk) 16:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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example. — DaxServer (
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I've created redirects for 4th, 9th, 13th, 15th, 16th and 17th Amendments to List of amendments of the Constitution of India, and stopped after realizing there were many amendments without articles in that list. Does it make sense to create the redirects for them? — DaxServer ( talk to me) 12:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
The article was moved right after she got married, now it has been moved back citing impending divorce. I have no clue about all this, but interested people may want to look into getting this (and the sub articles) titled correctly. — Spaceman Spiff 04:10, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
I have noticed the use of flagicons with West Bengal in the infobox of articles like Paschim Medinipur district, Darjeeling district and all other articles about the districts of West Bengal. Does West Bengal or any other Indian states have official flags? Can someone knowledgeable on the topic shed some light on this. Thanks DEFCON5 ( talk) 03:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
My abject apologies due to continued ill health, I could not give due attention to this drive.
Update: As of this moment, we have completed 45.9% of the articles needing assessment; more than 5000 articles have been assessed this month. Since there is still a way to go, the drive is being extended for another month till 31 October 2021. We hope that by then, we would have finished the backlog and bring it down to zero. :D
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We would appreciate more volunteer help to share the load. Please join in. :D
Thank you very much for being patient with me, Sincerely, Ashwin Baindur (User:AshLin) ( talk) 11:11, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Input is needed at this AFD. All opinions welcome. Please note that the current title of article has been modified from Sourav Das (Bengali famous actor) → Sourav Das (actor) 2402:3A80:6C5:AC0D:CDC3:CF89:B6E7:8C65 ( talk) 14:54, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a discussion currently taking place at Talk:Allahabad on whether an 18-month moratorium should be imposed on requested moves in light of the failure of the most recent attempt. You are welcome to participate in the discussion there. Rublov ( talk) 10:46, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
I have removed 44kb of unsourced, essay-style material from
Bangalore Karaga, most of it dating back to 2009. The stuff I removed may or may not be true, but it was all uncited. We need more sources to rebuild the article, and I'd appreciate it if anyone chipped in, or just left some sources on the article in the comment, or on its talk page, or on my talk page. Stuff from books can be
emailed to me if you don't have the time to add it to the article yourself. free barnstars for people who help!
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Does the WP:NOINDICSCRIPTS apply to the article body? The policy clearly talks about the infobox and the lead, but does not restrict from usage within the body. See my removal of the included scripts and talk. — DaxServer ( talk to me) 09:59, 24 September 2021 (UTC) (updated 20:33, 24 September 2021 (UTC))
Opinions are welcome at Talk:Pakistan/Archive 21#1971_war. TrangaBellam ( talk) 11:55, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
@ Mx. Clarks: ( contributions) has been adding "proposed flags" to various state articles (e.g., [2]). Could someone confirm that these flags are the actual state flags. Tha "proposed" qualifier attached to the flag names makes me a trifle uneasy. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 19:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
When you remove deprecated sources from the article, you also need to remove or fix the content sourced to them. If that is too much work, at least replace them by {{citation neeed}} tags. Otherwise all their disgusting POV will remain for ever, and it will even appear as if it is coming from high-quality sources. See this edit for example.
If you don't have time for anything, then you might just leave a note on the talk page saying the source is deprecated and it should be removed. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
An editor has requested for Faizabad division to be moved to Ayodhya division. Since you had some involvement with Faizabad division, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). Havelock Jones ( talk) 10:36, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Could someone bring an end to the ongoing slow edit-war at Mangalore? — DaxServer ( talk to me) 18:07, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
It goes without saying that the Census of India is a primary source. But there seems to be a tendency among editors (both newbies and long-term editors) to pick up spreadsheets from the census web site and tabulate them.
At a minimum, we should be using the District Census Handbooks, which make at least some effor to interpret the data and sometimes visibly give up. For example, the 2011 census handbooks don't report the 2011 language data. They only report 2001 language data. Even then, I see subtle variations in how the data is described. For example, the Pithoragarh district census handbook says: "Distribution of different mother tongues according to population with percentage as returned in 2001
". The Tawang district census handbook says instead: "Number of persons who returned the language in...
". We need to use language that reflects the uncertainties instead of writing dubiously factual statements like "X% of people speak Y language". If the Y language is not something recognized by linguists, we need to be even more careful.
Similarly, we should be saying X people are classifed as Scheduled tribes in the Census, instead of saying X people are "tribes". We would need secondary sources to make the second type of statements.
Let us start getting disciplined now, before the caste census nigtmares hit. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Could someone verify the lead at List of prime ministers of India, which is a Featured List? — DaxServer ( talk to me) 07:50, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Father of India redirects to Mahatma Gandhi. I propose that Father of India is converted into a disambiguation page which includes (for example):
The correct location for this would be Talk:Father of India, please see and comment. DTM ( talk) 12:12, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Mother of India directs to Mother Teresa however the phrase 'Mother of India' isn't even used in the article. Mother of India needs to be redirected with some more thought as well. DTM ( talk) 12:47, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Sushant Singh, a respected editor of the Indian Express on security affairs, who either quit or got axed in the midst of the China border clashes last year, wrote a commentary on the recent PLA video releases of captured Indian soldiers. I recommend everybody read the piece to understand the deplorable state of Indian media and how not to use it in Wiipedia. Here is a sample:
The Hindu was the only national daily that prominently reported the [soldiers'] release on its front page on June 19, and almost every other newspaper, television channel and web portal remained silent till then. Prior to that, journalists asking the Army for information on soldiers taken captive were stonewalled and asked to abstain from reporting. The journalists complied, most out of habit and a few others presumed this concession was to prevent harm to Indian soldiers in captivity. I wrote about the media coverage of the Ladakh crisis in The Caravan in December 2020.
He also linked a Wikipage section, Santosh Babu#Death, which, I see, uses substandard sources quite extensively. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 07:50, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Got this in my Twitter feed. TrangaBellam ( talk) 08:41, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
The picture showing the children of well-heeled parents is not only unrepresentative of a country in which the vast majority of children go to modest state-supported schools, but has also been uploaded by a banned editor. Could someone do the needful? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 02:53, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Any ideas about this "news and entertainment" website? In particular, is hindi.scoopwhoop.com reliable for historical material?-- RegentsPark ( comment) 12:51, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I am new to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited /info/en/?search=Bengal_Club. I created a sandbox page to revise it but would like specific feedback , instead of general feedback. Can you please help? Here is a revised draft I rewrote, after the first one was declined but with general feedback and not specific feedback on the sections. Draft: /info/en/?search=Draft:The_Bengal_Club
Thank you
Anderson1970 (talk) 04:00, 20 October 2021 (UTC) Anderson1970 ( talk) 09:11, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir#Requested move 20 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 15:58, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, given that the historical monastery receives more news and academic attention than the locality itself, is it okay if I create a new article for the monastery? Some advice needed if it’s okay to proceed. Thanks. KashKarti ( talk) 16:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Atmanirbhar Bharat#Requested move 22 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 13:57, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, everyone,
I was going through expiring drafts today and came upon this draft that I think might be for a notable organization in India. It needs some clean up work but if the content is accurate, it sounds like a sizeable group doing social work in the country. I was hoping someone with content building skills could look it over. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 19:11, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sameer Wankhede. Venkat TL ( talk) 09:29, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pawayan#Requested move 9 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 14:35, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a sudden explosion of new content on this page [6]. Can knowledgeable people monitor it and check it for accuracy? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:03, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Could some knowledgeable in Virat Kohli / Cricket involve with the article and improve its stability. It was setup for a third GA nomination and yet failed (delisted in the past). I believe there is a content dispute going on right now. Thanks! — DaxServer ( talk) 16:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
The Kachwaha dynasty was established by Dulherai after the end of Raja Alan Singh Chanda, the ruler of Chanda dynasty. Therefore, in the history of Kachwaha dynasty, include the history of Raja Alan Singh Chanda, the ruler of Chanda dynasty. [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 06:27, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
The description says "The Unfallen Pandava is an imaginary autobiography of Yudhishthira" and thus I've removed it as a ref from the page [7]. Is the book reliable in the context, and should I restore it back? — DaxServer ( talk) 09:35, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mathematics in India#Requested move 18 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 12:38, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Opinions requested regarding secularism in the modern Republic of India at Talk:Religion_in_India#About_secularism of the Religion in India talk page. Thanks in advance. W. Tell DCCXLVI t | c 18:00, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Rajput resistance to Muslim conquests needs work from an expert in History to fix the bias and weight issues. Venkat TL ( talk) 08:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
This
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Thiyya has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Malayalam .language of Kerala, where the caste is from,Thiyya wikipedia already exits for years :
https://ml.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%BC
In 2020 July, Kerala state government has issued an order to record Thiyya as Thiyya and not as a part of Ezhava nor its subcaste. In India, converting or writing one caste as another is a criminal offense.
Link to order kerala government's order from their official site :
https://education.kerala.gov.in/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/govt.order_3072020.pdf
See the Kerala state government order and the followed news report given on right.
I hope Wikipedia also abides by the Indian Kerala government's official government order on the Thiyya caste.
So I request you to remove the redirect of Thiyya Wikipedia from Ezhava Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.173.249 ( talk)
In the article titled Hinduism and other religions, I had removed the section on Ayyavazhi. Inclusion of Ayyavazhi in the article as a separate religion is a WP:POV agenda. It is neither recognised under as Indian law as separate religion and nor accepted widely as such. It is rather politically motivated vote bank" driven agenda of "select few" motivated interests. It is legally recognised in the Indian Constituion as a subset of Hinduism. I am sure that the regular editors here, who are watching wiki India Project, must be aware of discussions elsewhere on this topic. I have not been part of those discussions. Hence, calling up on all those editors those who have been involved in this discussion and know about the past consensus on this topic (whatever that may be). Please implement that earlier consensus on this article mentioned above.
Earlier today, I had removed the "Ayyavazhi" related text from the above-mentioned article with the edit comment "Ayyavazhi is not a recognised religion, just political movement of select few. it is classified as part of hinduism in indian constitution. Wikipedia is not a place to push for WP:POV politcal agenda. I have removed this sections", see here] (my edit there is time and IP stamped as "18:20, 2 August 2021 58.182.176.169". My edit was reverted by the user LauritzT, which I undid after leaving a message here on this notice board. I also left a message on the article's talk page so that future editors on that article can be guided by the India Project's decision if ever there is edit dispute on this topic again. Whichever way you guys decide, based on the past discussions on this topics, is fine by me. I am concerned that people might try to sneak in POLITICAL POV agenda on less watched articles.
I will not be involved in this further. I call upon India Project experts, who know the topics and have knowledge of prior decisions/decision on this matter, to please take care of this issue to its logical conclusion, i.e. whatever is your decision please ensure it gets applied to the article mentioned above.
Thanks you. 58.182.176.169 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Rohit Thakur (politician) § Requested move 2 November 2021. Venkat TL ( talk) 17:28, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pseudo-secularism#Requested move 25 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 21:12, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Akhtar Hameed Khan for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:45, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I made a semi-protected edit request here on 30 October 2021 but nobody has responded. Please do what I have requested there, that is, link the word, "unbelievers" to the Kafir article. Please also link the first occurence of the word, "non-Muslim" in the Dhimmi article, to the Kafir article, that is, for the first sentence of the article, "Dhimmī (Arabic: ذمي ḏimmī, IPA: [ˈðimmiː], collectively أهل الذمة ahl aḏ-ḏimmah/dhimmah "the people of the covenant") or Mu'ahid is a historical term for non-Muslims living in an Islamic state with legal protection", add a link for the word non-Muslims like this: non-Muslims. 116.75.72.217 ( talk) 06:42, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
(Rajput Treachery and Mina Foster-father) The story of (THE MINAS: Seeking a Place in History) the subject in the book (The Social and the Symbolic: Volume II) is that of Alan Singh Chanda. [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 03:18, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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Add this story to Alan Singh Chanda page? -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 03:35, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Please help me. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 11:05, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
There are indeed quite a changes to the Featured List - promoted version vs now. Could someone review the changes? (@ Fowler&fowler if you'd like to :) ) — DaxServer ( talk) 17:33, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
We can organise an editathon, to destub articles and improve to GA status. Also, reviving the newsletter, revamping the Wikiproject design etc. Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe 06:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
Please can a speaker of the relevant language (probably Hindi) look at the newspaper cuttings on this school's website. Do these cuttings indicate that the school is sufficiently notable to justify a Wikipedia article?
Please add any comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ARS Public School (3rd nomination). Thanks, Verbcatcher ( talk) 02:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 09:18, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Oriental studies § Proposed merge of Asian studies with Oriental studies. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 18:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Kamal Ahmed (music director) says this person was born in Gurgaon (present Haryana). A source says Gorgaun or Gor Gaun UP (which I believe is United Provinces in 1937). I have found a Gurgaon in Uttar Pradesh, which is not in WP anywhere that I can find. Is this article currently wrong by linking to Gurgaon? MB 13:37, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
37.6.3.233 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) deleted a large amount of content from various pages including your userbox templates. Should some of this be semi-protected? Adakiko ( talk) 10:32, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
How can this tree chart be wikified so that it can be used in articles such as Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Act (2019)? DTM ( talk) 06:16, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Draft constitution ( Constituent Assembly of India) | 26 October 1947, Instrument of Accession of Jammu and Kashmir princely state to the Union of India | Prime Ministers (Dewans) of Jammu and Kashmir princely state (1947-1965) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The Constitution of India (Application to Jammu and Kashmir) Second Amendment Order 1952 (C.O. 48) | Sadr-e-Riyasat of Jammu and Kashmir | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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47 Presidential orders were issued between 11 February 1956 and 19 February 1994 | Constitution of Jammu and Kashmir adopted 17 November 1956 | Governor of Jammu and Kashmir | Chief Ministers of the state of Jammu and Kashmir (1965-2019) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Article 35A stands abolished | The Constitution (Application to J&K) Order, 2019 (C.O. 272) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
C.O. 272 supersedes C.O. 48 | Constitution of Jammu and Kashmir rendered infructuous | Rajya Sabha passes J&K Reorganisation Act, 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
6 August 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
As of August 2021, there have been 105 amendments of the Constitution of India since it was first enacted in 1950. | Declaration under Article 370(3) of the Constitution (C.O. 273) | Lok Sabha passes J&K Reorganisation Act, 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Presidential assent for J&K Reorganisation Act, 2019 on 9 August 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir | Union Territory of Ladakh | Lieutenant Governor of Jammu and Kashmir | Lieutenant Governor of Ladakh | Chief Minister of union territory of Jammu and Kashmir | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Reorganisation Orders: Five orders deal with the union territory of Jammu and Kashmir and three with the union territory of Ladakh | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
What do we do about these articles?
(Disclosure- I have created two-
Jammu and Kashmir Exodus Day &
Jammu and Kashmir Black Day; and have made small edits in all of them to and made large sweeping edits to
Kashmir Martyrs' Day; you should see the state of
Kashmir Martyrs' Day before the copyedits started
link)
Tagging you
Fowler&fowler following your comments. While each of these may have POV, I've tried to balance it out by creating the above tree list; the articles between themselves intend to balance each other out and address POV. However, in this attempt I think POV within each article hasn't been adequately addressed, irrespective of the size of the articles at this stage. POV will be addressed. However just now I want to ask-
It starts off with the line- The Government of Pakistan and the Government of India observe various days related to the Kashmir conflict. There are a number of unofficial observances as well.
- and then just list the days. There are more days such as 14 September, Martyrdom Day when
Tika Lal Taploo was killed (
link).
DTM (
talk) 13:48, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
I think someone more familiar with India-related topics should see if the awards won by Umar Alisha are significant enough to remove the proposed deletion tag. SL93 ( talk) 04:06, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gandanta. Venkat TL ( talk) 14:44, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Could someone please take a look at this list and see if we have mythological kings mixed up with historically verifiable ones? For example, Yudhishthira is listed as a Kuru king while the article Yudhishthira is vague about his actual existence. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 16:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
In an article Jawaharlal Nehru refers to mosqueing of Hagia Sophia. The article seems to be written some months after 1935, has been republished as editorial selection for 2 part reprint by Mridula Mukherjee in w:National Herald India :
Requesting help in finding out, when it was first published ,Books or news–media name and the name of publication?
Thanks
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 16:34, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Since past few months as online social media activity among Malayalam atheist Ex-Muslims increased, some of their online activism is spilling over in some of en Wikipedia articles. No doubt their initial enthusiasm is in good faith but successfully writing and navigating among English Wikipedia's numerous rules is a different ball game.
If sooner atheist Ex-Muslims are not trained and mentored for working on en Wikipedia lot many of their effort can get wasted, since some of them are not using references expected to en Wikipedia standard, for example User:Atheist kerala used blog postings as ref. So if any Malayalam language Wikipedians around then please guide mentor and help users like User:Atheist kerala may be by informing Which Malayalam media with reliable editorial board can be used and translated for referencing on Wikipedia, how focusing first in draft namespace with articles like Draft:Ex-Muslims of Kerala may benefit and helping update that article draft etc.
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 09:08, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
The 2020 Uttarakhand forest fires needs some updating as it is notable enough for inclusion at Weather of 2020. I do not know Indian sources, so I cannot easily update the article. Just wanted to alert the WikiProject about it. Elijahandskip ( talk) 06:08, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Siege of Malakand for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Bumbubookworm ( talk) 06:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Please some admin or senior editors close the AfD at Cyclone Jawad and move Draft:Cyclone Jawad to mainspace as its ready. 2402:3A80:6FD:B303:55D:9023:51BF:FF3E ( talk) 10:03, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madhu-vidya. Venkat TL ( talk) 11:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garbhadhan (astrology). Venkat TL ( talk) 15:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Looking through the various wikipages pertaining to Hindu festivals, I find that there is no standard way of presenting the Hindu calendar dates in the holiday infobox. This leads to a set of problems / inconsistencies:
Festival | Date field in infobox |
---|---|
Gudi Padwa | Chaitra Shuddha Pratipada |
Rama Navami | Ninth day of Chaitra (Chaitra Shukla Paksha Navami) |
Akshaya Tritiya | late April-early May |
Guru Purnima | Ashadha Purnima (Shukla paksha, Bright lunar fortnight Full Moon) (June–July) |
Naga Panchami | Fifth day (Panchami) of the month of Shravana month of the Lunar calendar |
Raksha Bandhan | Purnima (full moon) of Shrawan |
Krishna Janmashtami | <No date specified> |
Ganesh Chaturthi | Bhadrapada (August–September) |
Vijaya Dashami | Ashvin (September or October) |
Karva Chauth | <No date specified> |
Naraka Chaturdashi | Kartik Krishna Chaturdashi |
Lakshmi Puja | Kartik Amavasya |
Bali Padyami | <No date specified> |
Bhai Dooj | Kartika Shukla Dwitiya |
Vasant Panchami | <No date specified> |
Maha Shivaratri | <No date specified> |
Holi | Per Hindu calendar |
I felt this could do with some standardization. Hence, I have written a template {{ Hindu festival date}} which presents the Hindu calendar date using Sanskrit terms (encoded in IAST). Wikilinks defined on the individual terms lead to more explanations of those terms. I have also defined these dates in the wikidata item for each festival (the template picks it up from there). I have used this template in the above festivals' wikipages. Now they are all consistent in specifying the date field in the infobox.
Question: Is my approach correct? I feel it is correct, but what is the opinion of other editors? Do take a look at the pages of the festivals mentioned above and state your opinion here.
Kishorekumar 62 ( talk) 06:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
I'm looking for help with improving the quality of the 2020 Assam gas and oil leak article, especially with copy editing, adding images, and updating. There's substantial content there and I think we can bring it to Good Article status with a little effort. Please do chip in if you can. Thanks. - Naushervan ( talk) 16:17, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I wanted to verify an edit from 2012 related to Jawaharlal Nehru. Does anyone have access to this book:
Specifically page number 258 and the lines:
In July 1946, Nehru pointedly observed that no princely state could prevail militarily against the army of independent India.
[1] In January 1947, Nehru said that independent India would not accept the
Divine Right of Kings,
[2] and in May 1947, he declared that any princely state which refused to join the Constituent Assembly would be treated as an enemy state.
DTM (
talk) 05:23, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
References
Please see Talk:Lakhimpur Kheri violence#RfC about this incident being termed a 'mass shooting'
This is primarily a two-editor "pissing match" that has now turned into an RfC, with presently very low input, so it's turning into the same two-editor pissing match again. This needs to be settled, by uninvolved editors. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:13, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone have a topic or idea for a
Wikipedia Signpost article?
Some background: I have six published The Signpost articles, the last being "
The reach of protest images on Wikipedia" (25 April 2021). While I do have some ideas in mind for another, I was curious if I could find something else to write about.
DTM (
talk) 09:04, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Indian polititican. Question of notability. Inherent language problems. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 13:28, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Almost every single article in Category:Jat clans of Rajasthan is completely unsourced, and I'm having a hard time trying to figure out whether any of these clans are notable or even exist. Would anyone here be interested in taking a look at some of these to see if they can be fixed or should be nominated for deletion? Lennart97 ( talk) 14:46, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
When and how was the Kachwaha dynasty established? -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 04:51, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Bipin Rawat § Rawat's caste. Venkat TL ( talk) 11:36, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
I am aiming to understand the footnote referred in p. 68 (pdf page 97) of this book. Thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 20:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
मग आपण पादशाहाचे रजेवरुतु स्वार होउनु बलदारी नजदीक आलो पुटे हि मजली दरमजली तामगौड-तर्फेस जात आहो [footnote] इत्यादि.TrangaBellam ( talk) 05:21, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Hi, I am User:Bookku, I find information and knowledge gaps create Drafts, try to recruit draft expanding editors and promote drafts articles for further expansion.
Requesting your visit to following drafts pertaining to South Asia and help expand the same if any of these interests you.
Thanks and warm regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 08:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Darjeeling for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 06:35, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Prasāda#Requested move 11 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 16:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Is this even real? The only source for the name is an offline book that is likely hard to check and probably not WP:RS. Also, a lot of this material is reproduced in Jat_states_in_Rajasthan (which also contains a ton of dubious material). -- RegentsPark ( comment) 14:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings
Any one here with W. Bengal & Bengali language background ? This is some thing going 51 years back into W. Bengal history.
and it's judicial inquiry report came in Dec 1969; In that speech Ajoy Mukherji was referring to same Rabindra Sarobar issue or was he referring to some other molestation cases?
Thanks and warm regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 10:09, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for response, that list too gives gives 16 March to be his date of quitting the office. I came across one ref of Frontier weekly which discusses that he had announced resignation but had not resigned on the date news article was written So most probably is 16 March but getting confirmed would be better.
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 02:57, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
On google books I came across a substantial body of titles relating to Law and Order in India by author name Srikanta Ghosh, S.K. Ghosh almost from 1951 to 2000.
From similarity of subject matter Srikanta Ghosh, S.K. Ghosh seem to be same person, but any one having access to Wikipedia library help confirm whether S.K. Ghosh and Srikanta Ghosh are same authors.
Secondly whether Srikanta Ghosh had any specific educational or career background in Law and Order?
Thanks
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 04:26, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Many thanks @ User:Naushervan,
I got one more link https://www.odishapolice.gov.in/?q=node/3676 to which indicates S.K. Ghosh, IPS. as Ex-Police Chief for time 29.03.1964 to 21.03.1967. From there on he seems to have gone as Director Vigilance as cited in link given by you for period 23.09.67 19.05.69.
Info in the link given by you states that ".The organisation (Odisha State Vigilance) functioning under the General Administration Department of the Government of Odisha, headed by an officer of the rank of Director General & Inspector General of Police, as Director. So claim of he had been 'Inspector General of Police' seems realistic enough.
Though I see few citations for few of his books on Google scholar. So in case of Law we may avoid him as an expert, but in case of crime investigation if he might have had some expertise, I do not know. I I Usually Indian police officers were not specifically trained for doing academic writing so when we compare to other academic writing it may not come to our expectation. I have not read him in detail and you have so I will go by your words.
Thanks again for detail helpful info.
Warm regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 06:24, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:BHU § Requested move 22 December 2021. User4edits ( talk) 19:10, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings!
Could any of the good people around here help me to access an Indian book, which I'd need as a source? I've filed a request also at WikiProject Resource Exchange, but I thought more eyeballs on this would be better. The book is only available in a physical copy, and it seems almost certain that one won't find it outside of India, so...
Anyway, your help would be highly appreciated! I look forward to hearing from you, and thanks a lot in advance! Jayaguru-Shishya ( talk) 19:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Draft talk:Koushal Kishor Mishra § Draft Suggestions before Re-Submissions. Please let me know how this draft can be improved before re-submission, or is it good enough to submit User4edits ( talk) 08:19, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Could someone have a look at List of Koli states and clans? This appears to almost entirely be the work of puppets of a single sockmaster. – Uanfala (talk) 02:42, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Please share your point of view about Draft:upGrad. It is a properly stated WP:COI about an Indian education company. upGrad is one of the five unicorn companies in India (companies with a capitalization over $1 billion). The draft was declined at the AfC with the comment from the reviewer that it doesn’t pass WP:NCORP. Specifically, the reviewer noted that none of the references are independent and reliable. I wonder if this has to do with an attitude to some particular Indian media. Could it be that coverage at some sources ( Business Standard, The Economic Times, Mint and so on) are not in the list of reliable sources ( WP:RSP)? -- Bbarmadillo ( talk) 17:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Can any helpful editor search for some reliable sources for the development of the Draft:Sadashib (Fictional Character)? Michri michri ( talk) 12:19, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Prathipadu (Assembly constituency) is in East Godavari district while Prathipadu (SC) (Assembly constituency) is in Guntur district. How do we disamb them removing the (SC) part from the latter article? — DaxServer ( talk) 13:41, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Gender based hate by Cyberstalking seems again in the news in South Asia. Has it been covered in any specific article or still to be covered?
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 13:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, everyone, I'm starting this discussion to inform that there needs to be better oversight by members of this project. Here on the English Wikipedia, there are dozens and maybe even hundreds of India-related articles that don't meet basic notability requirements. Bear in my mind, I'm not blaming the project for anything, however, there does not seem to be any involvement of this project in upholding the basic policies here on Wikipedia. I myself have nominated several articles, particularly on educational institutions in India, for deletion through PROD or to an Afd. Each one that was deleted all had failed to meet the GNG requirements. Even editors who are not members of this project, but are based in India have been creating articles on any given subject without knowing the requirements and don't improve their creations. These articles remain as stubs and/or orphans and have an extremely small chance of being expanded based on the limited information that exists.
Another factor is editors making wholesale changes such as moving articles without proper discussions on the right space such as article talk pages or the various discussion spaces like, Afd, Tfd, Ffd, Cfd, requested moves, etc... Now, these editors are new and learning their way and we should encourage informing them on how things work when it comes to editing on Wikipedia. This is where I think the responsibility of the project comes in. I alone can not go through every India-related article. But we should try to come up with a way to minimize the significant mess of non-notable articles and wholesale changes made by these editors.
This topic also includes categories and templates created by such users and are found to duplicate either existing categories and templates, or don't meet the necessity of having a category and template created.
I'm looking to hear back on how we can improve this issue. Feel free to ping me in response. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:05, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
All the important articles are writtenalready and so newer users will create pages on non-notable schools, films, actors and/or engage in conflict. Moreover, wikipedia disproportionately attracts passionate people, not experts, so notability grey areas are repeatedly tested. You can see this happen elsewhere too, NFOOT requirements were small enough that one in every six bio was a footballer's, but the RfC for stricter rules was blocked. Thousands more stubs were added semi-automatically from databases. The latest RfC isn't looking any better. Hemantha ( talk) 17:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion about whether an (alleged) premodern dynasty of Gilgit deserves an individual page. Thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 12:30, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
The Bhakti movement heralded the freedom struggle in India. During the Bhakti Yuga, the saints and mahants of this country, from every part of the country whether it is Swami Vivekananda, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Ramana Maharishi, were concerned about its spiritual consciousness. It served as the precursor to the revolt of 1857.
Once again in the Amrit Kaal [present years], the spiritual consciousness is awakening in the country. This spiritual consciousness is working to become the foundation for the reconstruction of the nation.
— "Amrit Yatra of Golden India" (p. 19) in New India Samachar, Volume 2, Issue 13. January 1 2022. Press Information Bureau: Government of India
Srinath Raghavan's tweet caught my attention. TrangaBellam ( talk) 08:37, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
In standard English (as far as I know), the voting for candidates to a legislature is called an "election". In India, it is referred to as "elections" (plural), while the voting for each constituency might be called an "election".
Does our "Indian English" usage allow the plural version? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:06, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Zamindar was vandalised. Could someone aware of the topic do some verifications and clean up? Thanks! — DaxServer ( talk) 09:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
There is an ongoing proposal on the reliable sources noticeboard regarding the blacklisting of websites of the Srivastava Group. If you are interested, please participate at WP:RSN § RfC: Srivastava Group. Tayi Arajakate Talk 02:54, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at this article? A bunch of IPs are switching between Tamil festival and Hindu festival. Though I've semi-protected it, I'm not sure which one is correct. Thanks. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 13:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I suspect that some people are concealing the content about Persecution of Dalits. Some are aggressively redirecting it without deleting it.
Georgethedragonslayer decided to revert me for Righting great wrongs but the rule itself is not claiming that I broke the law. [8]
Azuredivay, a complete stranger, is trying to intimidate me. I haven't ever encountered him before. [9]
I'm appealing to the entire Indian group for assistance and justice. Friendly Eagle ( talk) 05:27, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
"Dalits are treated equally by the constitution and laws of India."This is an utter non-sequitur. Whether or not we have an article about the phenomenon depends on how much coverage there is of the topic. There is a vast literature on caste-based violence and persecution, a vast literature on Dalits (including, but not limited to, any caste relations); far too large to be accommodated in single articles. As such, Persecution of Dalits is a valid spinoff. Furthermore, whether the term originated as a political term or not is irrelevant. We name our articles based on WP:COMMONNAME, and high-quality reliable sources consistently prefer the term "Dalit"; Britannica isn't a weighty enough to overcome that usage. The arguments you are putting forward suggest you need to go read some of these sources. Vanamonde ( Talk) 05:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Though all Dalits may belong to one or the other scheduled caste groups, not all groups in the list of scheduled castes are dalits. Chaipau ( talk) 14:45, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
English Wikipedia should probably have a standalone article on Narayan Apte as several other Wikipedias do (see Wikidata item Q1391266) and English Wikipedia once did. I can understand the logic of User:Winged Blades of Godric's decision to redirect our article, but the same rationale could be extended to apply to Nathuram Godse, if I'm not mistaken. Gandhi's assassination was a major event, so having multiple articles covering various people involved, etc. doesn't seem like an inherently bad idea; but more importantly (this is actually how this came to my attention), Googling the name "Narayan Apte" currently brings up a Fandom wiki as the top result, then German Wikipedia, and then our article on Narayan Hari Apte, which is pretty unsettling: while I'm sure the latter person was aware, during his lifetime, of the similarity of his name to that of one of the men who murdered the Father of India, I don't think he expected that decades after his own death something called Google would tie him with said murderer when something called Wikipedia no longer had a standalone something called a webpage about said murderer. We have a disambig headnote, but that doesn't show up in the Google preview, so I think we should probably include this in our determination of whether the Narayan Apte topic merits its own article. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Banaras Hindu University, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. User4edits ( talk) 13:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Bengal Volunteers needs attention or AfD. -- Valjean ( talk) 18:20, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion about whether a dynasty of Skardu deserves an individual page. Thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 17:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject Ganjam is (was?) never active. I think we should consider archiving it, and perhaps redirect the non-existing talk page(s) here. It was created by Kukunmishra ( talk · contribs), who last edited the wiki last year. The subpages Wikipedia:WikiProject Ganjam/Articles and Wikipedia:WikiProject Ganjam/Navigation are empty. Only the Wikipedia:WikiProject Ganjam/New articles is being updated by a bot. Perhaps the link to the bot update page could be added somewhere? If not, the config could be removed from the bot. — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 10:51, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Please give your advice on Draft:upGrad. It is a properly stated WP:COI about an Indian education company. The draft was declined at the AfC with the comment from the reviewer that it didn’t pass WP:NCORP. Do you think that this issue still exists after the rewrite? Any advice that you can give me on improving the article? Thanks! -- Bbarmadillo ( talk) 18:49, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion about whether a battle deserves an individual page. Thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 20:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Two different countries, two different newspapers, and two different authors, but exactly the same content:
Even the typos are identical:
“To our great disappoint, CFA did not consult any of us,” they said.
This is what I call Global Hindutva. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 05:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Is not Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India a duplicate of Fundamental rights in India + Directive Principles? I suggest making the former about Fundamental Duties alone.
Not much acquainted with Indian Constitution, hope the proposal is sensible. TrangaBellam ( talk) 06:38, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
The second point you've said is for a separate article on Fundamental Duties.- I thought that Fundamental Duties might be something important in enough to deserve a page. I cannot care less if the entire page can be gutted and FDs redirected to 42nd Amendment.
[Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties] are generally grouped together because of commonalities in the drafting history (as is demonstrated by the extensive section on that in the article)
The Fundamental Duties were later added to the Constitution by the 42nd Amendment in 1976.I consulted a few sources and none mentioned FDs to share a common drafting history with FRs and DPSP.
I thought that Fundamental Duties might be something important enough to deserve a page. I cannot care less if the entire page [is] gutted and FDs redirected to 42nd Amendment.So, I do not want a separate page on FDs. My sole aim is to not have a page that will necessarily be a duplicate of our pages on FR and DPSP, when they will be well-written enough. TrangaBellam ( talk) 18:30, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
I've been working on a series of biographies of Indian suffragists and writers for WP:WIRED and I hope that someone can help with sourcing and adding images to these articles (in addition to any other improvements that you can suggest). Most of these are from the 20th century (some 21st) and I'm not sure of where I might find the images. Would be very grateful for help. The pages are:
For the two AIWC *members, there are images on the AIWC website, but I am not sure of the copyright status.
Thank you! - Naushervan ( talk) 16:18, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, WikiProject,
Could someone review this newly created article for notability? I'm not familiar with the sources, my editing instinct was to tag it for deletion but I wanted to get a second opinion. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:47, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WhatsApp snooping scandal. Venkat TL ( talk) 14:33, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
The article Anbinnagaram has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Wholly unsourced for 8.67 years
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Based on the SPI results, there is a multinational sock farm attacking Indian mythological articles with statement "Karna is the main protagonist of Mahabharata" and variations of this statement. @ DaxServer and @ MelanieN have found a few recently. Please report such socks on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yashthakurkamail.
Also does anyone know why someone is promoting Karna? Venkat TL ( talk) 18:54, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Could someone verify if these Karna edits on Jagadish Chandra Bose constitute a copyvio [23] ? The sourcing from a GoI page is also really unreliable as well. — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 11:14, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
I am new here. I made a couple of requests here, here and here. I don't know if I made those requests correctly. Please take a look and do the needful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:53AA:5467:E9D6:110A:3DBA:ABE ( talk) 08:46, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
The Maratha Empire article says, "The Marathas are credited for ending Mughal Rule over most of the Indian subcontinent", so should that sentence not be added to this article?. How do I get someone to do the needful? Almost a whole week has passed since I started making these requests!- 2405:204:5097:B014:F83A:2702:C785:FDDE ( talk) 19:46, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Raavan (2022 film) is ready for submission. ... २ तकरपेप्सी talk 18:23, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian politics § Election Results section of Constituency articles. Venkat TL ( talk) 13:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)-- Venkat TL ( talk) 13:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Greeting,
EN Wikipedia articles Police Commissioner of Kolkata and Ranjit Kumar Gupta show that by 1967 Ranjit Kumar Gupta took over Police commissioner responsibilities from one P.K. Sen. Same time one contemporary news report of the Indian Express in April 1969 names P.K. Sen's statement as Commissioner of Police. Another source Telegraph India seem to indicate Gupta took over from Sen some time in 1969 . This another news (Economic and Political Weekly report gives specific date 10 July 1970 as date of R.K. Gupta taking over from Mr. Sen.
So can some one help out in finding out and disambiguate up to when P.K. Sen was functioning as CoP and when did R.K. Gupta took over from him?
If possible what was the name of Dy. CoP's name in April 1969? This question since initials P.K. Sen can be fairly common in W. Bengal so by any chance there were more than 1 P.K. Sen in Kolkata Police in 1960s/ 70s hence there is confusion or the confusion is just like that?
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 11:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Khogong king of Draft:Alan Singh. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 02:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Flags – like or – are generally allowed (though not encouraged) in the infoboxes for populated places or administrative divisions: MOS:INFOBOXFLAG. However, for places in the disputed Kashmir region (whether administered by India or by Pakistan) it has been my understanding that the use of such flags is strongly discouraged. I'm planning to remove the flags from any articles that still use them. Any thoughts? – Uanfala (talk) 14:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
If anyone had a minute or two to review this short article, I would appreciate it. It looks like an article that needs strong sources that are probably easy to find if it is an accurate account of a historical figure. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 2 § Category:Neo-Nazism in India. Venkat TL ( talk) 11:53, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
The admin mistakenly closed it in 2 days. This thread has been reopened. Need more eyes from this wikiproject members. -- Venkat TL ( talk) 11:53, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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Community feedback is invited and welcome at this thread. TrangaBellam ( talk) 19:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi. Please see the following AfD:
Looking for anyone with access to sources/coverage in Hindi, if they exist. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:12, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello! I'm trying to find sources to create a notable article about the American Embassy School in Delhi.
I am not aware of ways to access 1970s era or so archives of The Hindu which would talk about the establishment of the school. Considering its profile and ties with the American community I imagine such articles would exist.
WhisperToMe ( talk) 03:31, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hi. Do we have a policy on how to identify the scions of the erstwhile princely states in India. I made a change at this article but it would be good to have a clear policy in place (likely to be many others). -- RegentsPark ( comment) 14:56, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Yes, that is what I meant. They are sportwomen, hotel magnates, etc as Mr and Mrs Singh. The problem is that they are constitutionally mandated to be Mr and Mrs Singh by the 26th amendment. Even if they have a frivolous case or two in the courts, the Constitution cannot be overturned by a court. It needs a two-thirds majority in both houses of parliament. No Indian government (of the right or left) will ever revisit that issue even if they had the majority. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 16:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
No disagreement there. I had mentioned the Constitution of India in the context only of RP's point about some "royal" claimants attempting to pursue the matter in the courts. See my argument about the sources below. I mean the evidence in the sources is devastatingly unanimous. As for the local people inviting them to a community event @ RegentsPark: had himself written an eloquently finessed description. Hold on, I will dig it up. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 17:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
In my view, the footnote should be a full sentence in the main body; otherwise, it can give a confusing message. Also, it should be "crown Khan as the 'tenth Nawab of Pataudi' ." Without making that clear, we will be again giving a confusing message. Clearly he is not the Nawab his father was until 1971, nor his father the Nawab his grandfather was until 1947. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 17:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC) Clarified further. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 18:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)Khan was born on 16 August 1970 in New Delhi, India to Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi, a former captain of the Indian national cricket team, and his wife Sharmila Tagore, a film actress. [1] [2] From 1952 to 1971, Pataudi held the title of Nawab of Pataudi, but following his death a pagri ceremony was held in the village of Pataudi, Haryana to crown Khan as the tenth Nawab of Pataudi.Footnote: Official recognition of titles was ended by the Government of India in 1971 but Khan attended the ceremony to please the sentiments of the villagers, who wanted him to continue the family tradition. [3]
The logic, in my view, is straightforward. WP rules and guidelines require us to pay attention to secondary sources, especially WP:SCHOLARSHIP for reliability and to WP:TERTIARY for due weight. This is not rocket science. It seems fairly clear that the titles were abolished, beyond RP's important logical fallacy that is: If X state does not exist how can Y be the Maharaja (ruler) of X? The reliable trade non-fiction suggests the same. Please don't add or subtract anything from my sources. There is a discussion section below. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 17:39, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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help page).@ Fowler&fowler: clearly I was wrong to assume that the present scions are only notable as per WP for being sportspersons or business magnates and not because of their titles. Yaduveer Krishnadatta Chamaraja Wadiyar is notable for being the Maharaja of Mysore. A similar case is Shahu II of Kolhapur. defcon5 ( talk) 10:17, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
I don't care what terms WP uses for the Europeans. In WP:SCHOLARSHIP there is no precedent whatsoever for any descendant of a former Indian princely state to be called a "pretender," "claimant to a throne," "claimant to a title," or any equivalent formulation. They might be styling themselves as Maharajas, Rajas, Nawabs, Custodians the House of X, Head of the House of Y, etc or the celebrity media might be in their lieu, with an eye to the tourists who are eternally drawn by the allure of princely India. That I've stated is an entirely different thing, with a small scholarly literature, which I will taken into mind when I finish the proposal tomorrow AM. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 15:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm not interested in issues of notability. Please see my reply here to DEFCON5. Notability, as I say in the reply, is unrelated to the Raj. I'm interested only in language that describes a person's relation to the ruler of a princely state that is supported both in WP:SCHOLARSHIP and WP:TERTIARY. Nor am I interested in rationales for the rulers of the large princely states and most others sitting out the Indian rebellion of 1857. (Had they all chosen to join, it is not clear at all that the British would have survived in India, at least in the near term.) When we make a big to-do about one group, we discriminate against others. But that is not my main concern, which as I say above is to establish a common language for describing all descendants if they are notable. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
This is a sidetrack but it is somehow releated to the use of titles in India. The government of India clearly states that Bharat Ratna and Padma awards are not titles and cannot be used as prefix or suffix to names. See here But a lot of Wikipedia articles use them as honorifics and titles. Eg. Sumitra Guha, Nandalal Bose, Teejan Bai, Nanaji Deshmukh. If any policy regarding titles is formed, this should also be included. defcon5 ( talk) 14:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
There is a misconception among Indian Hindus that a person born in a so-called "High Caste" is different from the rest. Let us take an example of the modern-day Brahmin & Kshatriya caste or community.
A person who never read, nor touched a single Hindu scripture in his entire life, will still be labelled a Brahmin! just because he is born in a family of self-proclaimed "High birth, Upper Caste". I urge Hindus to read their scriptures to get the definition of a Brahmin before labelling anyone whomsoever in open. Next, we have our modern-day Kshatriya castes & communities, a person who never hold a sword nor indulged in any kind of battle or warfares in his entire life are still labelled Kshatriya. They boast of their identity of Warrior class lineage.
These delusional beliefs make them believe Somehow they are indifferent from the rest. Frankly, speaking this 15th-century insanity may be promoted & defended by a bunch of illiterate rural Indian villagers who are known to be the chief architects of Indian casteism & racism & the Indian politicians who are well known to fuel this age-old insanity to satisfy the ego of their vote-banks.
The Kingship-Monarchy and Brahminical caste-hierarchy were abolished centuries ago by the Hammer of Law & after the advent of the Indian constitution such Racism & Casteism prevalent among Hindus has been controlled to some extent in rural areas still the majority of uneducated villagers boasting in their occupations of their forefather's believed themselves to be something "Born twice, Born thrice", High Birth as high as the Sky, indifferent from the rest prefer to call themselves Upper castes only to justify their delusions.
If someone belongs to the Hindu religion, then automatically he will be attached to a particular caste according to his surname which I found not only to be dogmatic but also draconian & absurd.
Even in this 21st century Indian Hindus still believes they are attached to a particular caste & community even if that person never did any stuff unlike his forefathers to suit their occupation according to their caste & clan. Hindu religion might be the origin of Indian-casteism (a.k.a the last fort of Caste-hierarchy on earth). These Rural Casteist beliefs should not be propagated, not in this way. Such absurdity may be prevalent among self-proclaimed "high birth Hindus" living in a delusion & rural Indian villagers believing the majority of the Indian residents are somehow inferior since they are born in a particular so-called "Upper Caste". It does remind me of the Nazi Racial Supremacy. This is where it strikes me.
So, therefore, I urge to remove all castes attached to Indians over Wikipedia. ChongPong|Talk, 2:25, 22 September 2021 (UTC) ChongPong ( talk) 20:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello, i noticed there are lots of unreliable sources on 2021 West Bengal Legislative Assembly election#Surveys and polls, like NK Digital Magazine, Sudarshan News, Ekhon Biswa Bangla Sangbad etc. It would be great if someone clean the section. Thanks -- আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 15:35, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Belagaavi Airport#Requested move 25 September 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 12:42, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Input is needed at this AFD. All opinions welcome. 4meter4 ( talk) 02:53, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
You may be aware that we operate a live help desk via IRC. On a typical day more than 75% of the queries we get are India related. I would be very grateful if experienced editors who have familiarity with Indian languages and cultures would join us. If you are interested, please just come to IRC chat and tell the existing editors that you would like to help out. -- Salimfadhley ( talk) 12:27, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
The problems with The Times of India are now well-recognised. I notice gremlins randomly adding WP:REFSPAM for The Times of India. I suggest that we add {{unreliable-source?|reason=[[WP:TOI]]}} tag to all citations to the Times of India and delete them wherever possible. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:14, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Tayi Arajakate, can you kindly check the usage of Times Now and Zee News across en-wiki articles? I cannot make the tool work. TrangaBellam ( talk) 16:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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I've created redirects for 4th, 9th, 13th, 15th, 16th and 17th Amendments to List of amendments of the Constitution of India, and stopped after realizing there were many amendments without articles in that list. Does it make sense to create the redirects for them? — DaxServer ( talk to me) 12:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
The article was moved right after she got married, now it has been moved back citing impending divorce. I have no clue about all this, but interested people may want to look into getting this (and the sub articles) titled correctly. — Spaceman Spiff 04:10, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
I have noticed the use of flagicons with West Bengal in the infobox of articles like Paschim Medinipur district, Darjeeling district and all other articles about the districts of West Bengal. Does West Bengal or any other Indian states have official flags? Can someone knowledgeable on the topic shed some light on this. Thanks DEFCON5 ( talk) 03:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
My abject apologies due to continued ill health, I could not give due attention to this drive.
Update: As of this moment, we have completed 45.9% of the articles needing assessment; more than 5000 articles have been assessed this month. Since there is still a way to go, the drive is being extended for another month till 31 October 2021. We hope that by then, we would have finished the backlog and bring it down to zero. :D
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Thank you very much for being patient with me, Sincerely, Ashwin Baindur (User:AshLin) ( talk) 11:11, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Input is needed at this AFD. All opinions welcome. Please note that the current title of article has been modified from Sourav Das (Bengali famous actor) → Sourav Das (actor) 2402:3A80:6C5:AC0D:CDC3:CF89:B6E7:8C65 ( talk) 14:54, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a discussion currently taking place at Talk:Allahabad on whether an 18-month moratorium should be imposed on requested moves in light of the failure of the most recent attempt. You are welcome to participate in the discussion there. Rublov ( talk) 10:46, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
I have removed 44kb of unsourced, essay-style material from
Bangalore Karaga, most of it dating back to 2009. The stuff I removed may or may not be true, but it was all uncited. We need more sources to rebuild the article, and I'd appreciate it if anyone chipped in, or just left some sources on the article in the comment, or on its talk page, or on my talk page. Stuff from books can be
emailed to me if you don't have the time to add it to the article yourself. free barnstars for people who help!
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Does the WP:NOINDICSCRIPTS apply to the article body? The policy clearly talks about the infobox and the lead, but does not restrict from usage within the body. See my removal of the included scripts and talk. — DaxServer ( talk to me) 09:59, 24 September 2021 (UTC) (updated 20:33, 24 September 2021 (UTC))
Opinions are welcome at Talk:Pakistan/Archive 21#1971_war. TrangaBellam ( talk) 11:55, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
@ Mx. Clarks: ( contributions) has been adding "proposed flags" to various state articles (e.g., [2]). Could someone confirm that these flags are the actual state flags. Tha "proposed" qualifier attached to the flag names makes me a trifle uneasy. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 19:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
When you remove deprecated sources from the article, you also need to remove or fix the content sourced to them. If that is too much work, at least replace them by {{citation neeed}} tags. Otherwise all their disgusting POV will remain for ever, and it will even appear as if it is coming from high-quality sources. See this edit for example.
If you don't have time for anything, then you might just leave a note on the talk page saying the source is deprecated and it should be removed. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
An editor has requested for Faizabad division to be moved to Ayodhya division. Since you had some involvement with Faizabad division, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). Havelock Jones ( talk) 10:36, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Could someone bring an end to the ongoing slow edit-war at Mangalore? — DaxServer ( talk to me) 18:07, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
It goes without saying that the Census of India is a primary source. But there seems to be a tendency among editors (both newbies and long-term editors) to pick up spreadsheets from the census web site and tabulate them.
At a minimum, we should be using the District Census Handbooks, which make at least some effor to interpret the data and sometimes visibly give up. For example, the 2011 census handbooks don't report the 2011 language data. They only report 2001 language data. Even then, I see subtle variations in how the data is described. For example, the Pithoragarh district census handbook says: "Distribution of different mother tongues according to population with percentage as returned in 2001
". The Tawang district census handbook says instead: "Number of persons who returned the language in...
". We need to use language that reflects the uncertainties instead of writing dubiously factual statements like "X% of people speak Y language". If the Y language is not something recognized by linguists, we need to be even more careful.
Similarly, we should be saying X people are classifed as Scheduled tribes in the Census, instead of saying X people are "tribes". We would need secondary sources to make the second type of statements.
Let us start getting disciplined now, before the caste census nigtmares hit. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Could someone verify the lead at List of prime ministers of India, which is a Featured List? — DaxServer ( talk to me) 07:50, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Father of India redirects to Mahatma Gandhi. I propose that Father of India is converted into a disambiguation page which includes (for example):
The correct location for this would be Talk:Father of India, please see and comment. DTM ( talk) 12:12, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Mother of India directs to Mother Teresa however the phrase 'Mother of India' isn't even used in the article. Mother of India needs to be redirected with some more thought as well. DTM ( talk) 12:47, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Sushant Singh, a respected editor of the Indian Express on security affairs, who either quit or got axed in the midst of the China border clashes last year, wrote a commentary on the recent PLA video releases of captured Indian soldiers. I recommend everybody read the piece to understand the deplorable state of Indian media and how not to use it in Wiipedia. Here is a sample:
The Hindu was the only national daily that prominently reported the [soldiers'] release on its front page on June 19, and almost every other newspaper, television channel and web portal remained silent till then. Prior to that, journalists asking the Army for information on soldiers taken captive were stonewalled and asked to abstain from reporting. The journalists complied, most out of habit and a few others presumed this concession was to prevent harm to Indian soldiers in captivity. I wrote about the media coverage of the Ladakh crisis in The Caravan in December 2020.
He also linked a Wikipage section, Santosh Babu#Death, which, I see, uses substandard sources quite extensively. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 07:50, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Got this in my Twitter feed. TrangaBellam ( talk) 08:41, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
The picture showing the children of well-heeled parents is not only unrepresentative of a country in which the vast majority of children go to modest state-supported schools, but has also been uploaded by a banned editor. Could someone do the needful? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 02:53, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Any ideas about this "news and entertainment" website? In particular, is hindi.scoopwhoop.com reliable for historical material?-- RegentsPark ( comment) 12:51, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I am new to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited /info/en/?search=Bengal_Club. I created a sandbox page to revise it but would like specific feedback , instead of general feedback. Can you please help? Here is a revised draft I rewrote, after the first one was declined but with general feedback and not specific feedback on the sections. Draft: /info/en/?search=Draft:The_Bengal_Club
Thank you
Anderson1970 (talk) 04:00, 20 October 2021 (UTC) Anderson1970 ( talk) 09:11, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir#Requested move 20 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 15:58, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, given that the historical monastery receives more news and academic attention than the locality itself, is it okay if I create a new article for the monastery? Some advice needed if it’s okay to proceed. Thanks. KashKarti ( talk) 16:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Atmanirbhar Bharat#Requested move 22 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 13:57, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, everyone,
I was going through expiring drafts today and came upon this draft that I think might be for a notable organization in India. It needs some clean up work but if the content is accurate, it sounds like a sizeable group doing social work in the country. I was hoping someone with content building skills could look it over. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 19:11, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sameer Wankhede. Venkat TL ( talk) 09:29, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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There is a sudden explosion of new content on this page [6]. Can knowledgeable people monitor it and check it for accuracy? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:03, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Could some knowledgeable in Virat Kohli / Cricket involve with the article and improve its stability. It was setup for a third GA nomination and yet failed (delisted in the past). I believe there is a content dispute going on right now. Thanks! — DaxServer ( talk) 16:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
The Kachwaha dynasty was established by Dulherai after the end of Raja Alan Singh Chanda, the ruler of Chanda dynasty. Therefore, in the history of Kachwaha dynasty, include the history of Raja Alan Singh Chanda, the ruler of Chanda dynasty. [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 06:27, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
The description says "The Unfallen Pandava is an imaginary autobiography of Yudhishthira" and thus I've removed it as a ref from the page [7]. Is the book reliable in the context, and should I restore it back? — DaxServer ( talk) 09:35, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mathematics in India#Requested move 18 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 12:38, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Opinions requested regarding secularism in the modern Republic of India at Talk:Religion_in_India#About_secularism of the Religion in India talk page. Thanks in advance. W. Tell DCCXLVI t | c 18:00, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Rajput resistance to Muslim conquests needs work from an expert in History to fix the bias and weight issues. Venkat TL ( talk) 08:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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Malayalam .language of Kerala, where the caste is from,Thiyya wikipedia already exits for years :
https://ml.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%BC
In 2020 July, Kerala state government has issued an order to record Thiyya as Thiyya and not as a part of Ezhava nor its subcaste. In India, converting or writing one caste as another is a criminal offense.
Link to order kerala government's order from their official site :
https://education.kerala.gov.in/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/govt.order_3072020.pdf
See the Kerala state government order and the followed news report given on right.
I hope Wikipedia also abides by the Indian Kerala government's official government order on the Thiyya caste.
So I request you to remove the redirect of Thiyya Wikipedia from Ezhava Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.173.249 ( talk)
In the article titled Hinduism and other religions, I had removed the section on Ayyavazhi. Inclusion of Ayyavazhi in the article as a separate religion is a WP:POV agenda. It is neither recognised under as Indian law as separate religion and nor accepted widely as such. It is rather politically motivated vote bank" driven agenda of "select few" motivated interests. It is legally recognised in the Indian Constituion as a subset of Hinduism. I am sure that the regular editors here, who are watching wiki India Project, must be aware of discussions elsewhere on this topic. I have not been part of those discussions. Hence, calling up on all those editors those who have been involved in this discussion and know about the past consensus on this topic (whatever that may be). Please implement that earlier consensus on this article mentioned above.
Earlier today, I had removed the "Ayyavazhi" related text from the above-mentioned article with the edit comment "Ayyavazhi is not a recognised religion, just political movement of select few. it is classified as part of hinduism in indian constitution. Wikipedia is not a place to push for WP:POV politcal agenda. I have removed this sections", see here] (my edit there is time and IP stamped as "18:20, 2 August 2021 58.182.176.169". My edit was reverted by the user LauritzT, which I undid after leaving a message here on this notice board. I also left a message on the article's talk page so that future editors on that article can be guided by the India Project's decision if ever there is edit dispute on this topic again. Whichever way you guys decide, based on the past discussions on this topics, is fine by me. I am concerned that people might try to sneak in POLITICAL POV agenda on less watched articles.
I will not be involved in this further. I call upon India Project experts, who know the topics and have knowledge of prior decisions/decision on this matter, to please take care of this issue to its logical conclusion, i.e. whatever is your decision please ensure it gets applied to the article mentioned above.
Thanks you. 58.182.176.169 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Rohit Thakur (politician) § Requested move 2 November 2021. Venkat TL ( talk) 17:28, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pseudo-secularism#Requested move 25 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 21:12, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Akhtar Hameed Khan for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:45, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I made a semi-protected edit request here on 30 October 2021 but nobody has responded. Please do what I have requested there, that is, link the word, "unbelievers" to the Kafir article. Please also link the first occurence of the word, "non-Muslim" in the Dhimmi article, to the Kafir article, that is, for the first sentence of the article, "Dhimmī (Arabic: ذمي ḏimmī, IPA: [ˈðimmiː], collectively أهل الذمة ahl aḏ-ḏimmah/dhimmah "the people of the covenant") or Mu'ahid is a historical term for non-Muslims living in an Islamic state with legal protection", add a link for the word non-Muslims like this: non-Muslims. 116.75.72.217 ( talk) 06:42, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
(Rajput Treachery and Mina Foster-father) The story of (THE MINAS: Seeking a Place in History) the subject in the book (The Social and the Symbolic: Volume II) is that of Alan Singh Chanda. [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 03:18, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
References
Add this story to Alan Singh Chanda page? -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 03:35, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Please help me. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 11:05, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
There are indeed quite a changes to the Featured List - promoted version vs now. Could someone review the changes? (@ Fowler&fowler if you'd like to :) ) — DaxServer ( talk) 17:33, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
We can organise an editathon, to destub articles and improve to GA status. Also, reviving the newsletter, revamping the Wikiproject design etc. Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe 06:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
Please can a speaker of the relevant language (probably Hindi) look at the newspaper cuttings on this school's website. Do these cuttings indicate that the school is sufficiently notable to justify a Wikipedia article?
Please add any comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ARS Public School (3rd nomination). Thanks, Verbcatcher ( talk) 02:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mughal Museum#Requested move 1 November 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 20:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Oriental studies § Proposed merge of Asian studies with Oriental studies. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 18:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Kamal Ahmed (music director) says this person was born in Gurgaon (present Haryana). A source says Gorgaun or Gor Gaun UP (which I believe is United Provinces in 1937). I have found a Gurgaon in Uttar Pradesh, which is not in WP anywhere that I can find. Is this article currently wrong by linking to Gurgaon? MB 13:37, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
37.6.3.233 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) deleted a large amount of content from various pages including your userbox templates. Should some of this be semi-protected? Adakiko ( talk) 10:32, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
How can this tree chart be wikified so that it can be used in articles such as Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Act (2019)? DTM ( talk) 06:16, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Draft constitution ( Constituent Assembly of India) | 26 October 1947, Instrument of Accession of Jammu and Kashmir princely state to the Union of India | Prime Ministers (Dewans) of Jammu and Kashmir princely state (1947-1965) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Article 306 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Constitution of India | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Article 370 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The Constitution (Application to Jammu and Kashmir) Order, 1950 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The Constitution of India (Application to Jammu and Kashmir) Second Amendment Order 1952 (C.O. 48) | Sadr-e-Riyasat of Jammu and Kashmir | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Article 35A | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
47 Presidential orders were issued between 11 February 1956 and 19 February 1994 | Constitution of Jammu and Kashmir adopted 17 November 1956 | Governor of Jammu and Kashmir | Chief Ministers of the state of Jammu and Kashmir (1965-2019) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
5 August 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Article 35A stands abolished | The Constitution (Application to J&K) Order, 2019 (C.O. 272) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
C.O. 272 supersedes C.O. 48 | Constitution of Jammu and Kashmir rendered infructuous | Rajya Sabha passes J&K Reorganisation Act, 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
6 August 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
As of August 2021, there have been 105 amendments of the Constitution of India since it was first enacted in 1950. | Declaration under Article 370(3) of the Constitution (C.O. 273) | Lok Sabha passes J&K Reorganisation Act, 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Presidential assent for J&K Reorganisation Act, 2019 on 9 August 2019 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir | Union Territory of Ladakh | Lieutenant Governor of Jammu and Kashmir | Lieutenant Governor of Ladakh | Chief Minister of union territory of Jammu and Kashmir | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Reorganisation Orders: Five orders deal with the union territory of Jammu and Kashmir and three with the union territory of Ladakh | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
What do we do about these articles?
(Disclosure- I have created two-
Jammu and Kashmir Exodus Day &
Jammu and Kashmir Black Day; and have made small edits in all of them to and made large sweeping edits to
Kashmir Martyrs' Day; you should see the state of
Kashmir Martyrs' Day before the copyedits started
link)
Tagging you
Fowler&fowler following your comments. While each of these may have POV, I've tried to balance it out by creating the above tree list; the articles between themselves intend to balance each other out and address POV. However, in this attempt I think POV within each article hasn't been adequately addressed, irrespective of the size of the articles at this stage. POV will be addressed. However just now I want to ask-
It starts off with the line- The Government of Pakistan and the Government of India observe various days related to the Kashmir conflict. There are a number of unofficial observances as well.
- and then just list the days. There are more days such as 14 September, Martyrdom Day when
Tika Lal Taploo was killed (
link).
DTM (
talk) 13:48, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
I think someone more familiar with India-related topics should see if the awards won by Umar Alisha are significant enough to remove the proposed deletion tag. SL93 ( talk) 04:06, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gandanta. Venkat TL ( talk) 14:44, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Could someone please take a look at this list and see if we have mythological kings mixed up with historically verifiable ones? For example, Yudhishthira is listed as a Kuru king while the article Yudhishthira is vague about his actual existence. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 16:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
In an article Jawaharlal Nehru refers to mosqueing of Hagia Sophia. The article seems to be written some months after 1935, has been republished as editorial selection for 2 part reprint by Mridula Mukherjee in w:National Herald India :
Requesting help in finding out, when it was first published ,Books or news–media name and the name of publication?
Thanks
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 16:34, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Since past few months as online social media activity among Malayalam atheist Ex-Muslims increased, some of their online activism is spilling over in some of en Wikipedia articles. No doubt their initial enthusiasm is in good faith but successfully writing and navigating among English Wikipedia's numerous rules is a different ball game.
If sooner atheist Ex-Muslims are not trained and mentored for working on en Wikipedia lot many of their effort can get wasted, since some of them are not using references expected to en Wikipedia standard, for example User:Atheist kerala used blog postings as ref. So if any Malayalam language Wikipedians around then please guide mentor and help users like User:Atheist kerala may be by informing Which Malayalam media with reliable editorial board can be used and translated for referencing on Wikipedia, how focusing first in draft namespace with articles like Draft:Ex-Muslims of Kerala may benefit and helping update that article draft etc.
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 09:08, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
The 2020 Uttarakhand forest fires needs some updating as it is notable enough for inclusion at Weather of 2020. I do not know Indian sources, so I cannot easily update the article. Just wanted to alert the WikiProject about it. Elijahandskip ( talk) 06:08, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Siege of Malakand for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Bumbubookworm ( talk) 06:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Please some admin or senior editors close the AfD at Cyclone Jawad and move Draft:Cyclone Jawad to mainspace as its ready. 2402:3A80:6FD:B303:55D:9023:51BF:FF3E ( talk) 10:03, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madhu-vidya. Venkat TL ( talk) 11:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garbhadhan (astrology). Venkat TL ( talk) 15:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Looking through the various wikipages pertaining to Hindu festivals, I find that there is no standard way of presenting the Hindu calendar dates in the holiday infobox. This leads to a set of problems / inconsistencies:
Festival | Date field in infobox |
---|---|
Gudi Padwa | Chaitra Shuddha Pratipada |
Rama Navami | Ninth day of Chaitra (Chaitra Shukla Paksha Navami) |
Akshaya Tritiya | late April-early May |
Guru Purnima | Ashadha Purnima (Shukla paksha, Bright lunar fortnight Full Moon) (June–July) |
Naga Panchami | Fifth day (Panchami) of the month of Shravana month of the Lunar calendar |
Raksha Bandhan | Purnima (full moon) of Shrawan |
Krishna Janmashtami | <No date specified> |
Ganesh Chaturthi | Bhadrapada (August–September) |
Vijaya Dashami | Ashvin (September or October) |
Karva Chauth | <No date specified> |
Naraka Chaturdashi | Kartik Krishna Chaturdashi |
Lakshmi Puja | Kartik Amavasya |
Bali Padyami | <No date specified> |
Bhai Dooj | Kartika Shukla Dwitiya |
Vasant Panchami | <No date specified> |
Maha Shivaratri | <No date specified> |
Holi | Per Hindu calendar |
I felt this could do with some standardization. Hence, I have written a template {{ Hindu festival date}} which presents the Hindu calendar date using Sanskrit terms (encoded in IAST). Wikilinks defined on the individual terms lead to more explanations of those terms. I have also defined these dates in the wikidata item for each festival (the template picks it up from there). I have used this template in the above festivals' wikipages. Now they are all consistent in specifying the date field in the infobox.
Question: Is my approach correct? I feel it is correct, but what is the opinion of other editors? Do take a look at the pages of the festivals mentioned above and state your opinion here.
Kishorekumar 62 ( talk) 06:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
I'm looking for help with improving the quality of the 2020 Assam gas and oil leak article, especially with copy editing, adding images, and updating. There's substantial content there and I think we can bring it to Good Article status with a little effort. Please do chip in if you can. Thanks. - Naushervan ( talk) 16:17, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I wanted to verify an edit from 2012 related to Jawaharlal Nehru. Does anyone have access to this book:
Specifically page number 258 and the lines:
In July 1946, Nehru pointedly observed that no princely state could prevail militarily against the army of independent India.
[1] In January 1947, Nehru said that independent India would not accept the
Divine Right of Kings,
[2] and in May 1947, he declared that any princely state which refused to join the Constituent Assembly would be treated as an enemy state.
DTM (
talk) 05:23, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
References
Please see Talk:Lakhimpur Kheri violence#RfC about this incident being termed a 'mass shooting'
This is primarily a two-editor "pissing match" that has now turned into an RfC, with presently very low input, so it's turning into the same two-editor pissing match again. This needs to be settled, by uninvolved editors. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:13, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone have a topic or idea for a
Wikipedia Signpost article?
Some background: I have six published The Signpost articles, the last being "
The reach of protest images on Wikipedia" (25 April 2021). While I do have some ideas in mind for another, I was curious if I could find something else to write about.
DTM (
talk) 09:04, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Indian polititican. Question of notability. Inherent language problems. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 13:28, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Almost every single article in Category:Jat clans of Rajasthan is completely unsourced, and I'm having a hard time trying to figure out whether any of these clans are notable or even exist. Would anyone here be interested in taking a look at some of these to see if they can be fixed or should be nominated for deletion? Lennart97 ( talk) 14:46, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
When and how was the Kachwaha dynasty established? -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 04:51, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Bipin Rawat § Rawat's caste. Venkat TL ( talk) 11:36, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
I am aiming to understand the footnote referred in p. 68 (pdf page 97) of this book. Thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 20:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
मग आपण पादशाहाचे रजेवरुतु स्वार होउनु बलदारी नजदीक आलो पुटे हि मजली दरमजली तामगौड-तर्फेस जात आहो [footnote] इत्यादि.TrangaBellam ( talk) 05:21, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Hi, I am User:Bookku, I find information and knowledge gaps create Drafts, try to recruit draft expanding editors and promote drafts articles for further expansion.
Requesting your visit to following drafts pertaining to South Asia and help expand the same if any of these interests you.
Thanks and warm regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 08:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Darjeeling for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 06:35, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Prasāda#Requested move 11 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 16:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Is this even real? The only source for the name is an offline book that is likely hard to check and probably not WP:RS. Also, a lot of this material is reproduced in Jat_states_in_Rajasthan (which also contains a ton of dubious material). -- RegentsPark ( comment) 14:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings
Any one here with W. Bengal & Bengali language background ? This is some thing going 51 years back into W. Bengal history.
and it's judicial inquiry report came in Dec 1969; In that speech Ajoy Mukherji was referring to same Rabindra Sarobar issue or was he referring to some other molestation cases?
Thanks and warm regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 10:09, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for response, that list too gives gives 16 March to be his date of quitting the office. I came across one ref of Frontier weekly which discusses that he had announced resignation but had not resigned on the date news article was written So most probably is 16 March but getting confirmed would be better.
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 02:57, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
On google books I came across a substantial body of titles relating to Law and Order in India by author name Srikanta Ghosh, S.K. Ghosh almost from 1951 to 2000.
From similarity of subject matter Srikanta Ghosh, S.K. Ghosh seem to be same person, but any one having access to Wikipedia library help confirm whether S.K. Ghosh and Srikanta Ghosh are same authors.
Secondly whether Srikanta Ghosh had any specific educational or career background in Law and Order?
Thanks
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 04:26, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Many thanks @ User:Naushervan,
I got one more link https://www.odishapolice.gov.in/?q=node/3676 to which indicates S.K. Ghosh, IPS. as Ex-Police Chief for time 29.03.1964 to 21.03.1967. From there on he seems to have gone as Director Vigilance as cited in link given by you for period 23.09.67 19.05.69.
Info in the link given by you states that ".The organisation (Odisha State Vigilance) functioning under the General Administration Department of the Government of Odisha, headed by an officer of the rank of Director General & Inspector General of Police, as Director. So claim of he had been 'Inspector General of Police' seems realistic enough.
Though I see few citations for few of his books on Google scholar. So in case of Law we may avoid him as an expert, but in case of crime investigation if he might have had some expertise, I do not know. I I Usually Indian police officers were not specifically trained for doing academic writing so when we compare to other academic writing it may not come to our expectation. I have not read him in detail and you have so I will go by your words.
Thanks again for detail helpful info.
Warm regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 06:24, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:BHU § Requested move 22 December 2021. User4edits ( talk) 19:10, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings!
Could any of the good people around here help me to access an Indian book, which I'd need as a source? I've filed a request also at WikiProject Resource Exchange, but I thought more eyeballs on this would be better. The book is only available in a physical copy, and it seems almost certain that one won't find it outside of India, so...
Anyway, your help would be highly appreciated! I look forward to hearing from you, and thanks a lot in advance! Jayaguru-Shishya ( talk) 19:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Draft talk:Koushal Kishor Mishra § Draft Suggestions before Re-Submissions. Please let me know how this draft can be improved before re-submission, or is it good enough to submit User4edits ( talk) 08:19, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Could someone have a look at List of Koli states and clans? This appears to almost entirely be the work of puppets of a single sockmaster. – Uanfala (talk) 02:42, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Please share your point of view about Draft:upGrad. It is a properly stated WP:COI about an Indian education company. upGrad is one of the five unicorn companies in India (companies with a capitalization over $1 billion). The draft was declined at the AfC with the comment from the reviewer that it doesn’t pass WP:NCORP. Specifically, the reviewer noted that none of the references are independent and reliable. I wonder if this has to do with an attitude to some particular Indian media. Could it be that coverage at some sources ( Business Standard, The Economic Times, Mint and so on) are not in the list of reliable sources ( WP:RSP)? -- Bbarmadillo ( talk) 17:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Can any helpful editor search for some reliable sources for the development of the Draft:Sadashib (Fictional Character)? Michri michri ( talk) 12:19, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Prathipadu (Assembly constituency) is in East Godavari district while Prathipadu (SC) (Assembly constituency) is in Guntur district. How do we disamb them removing the (SC) part from the latter article? — DaxServer ( talk) 13:41, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Gender based hate by Cyberstalking seems again in the news in South Asia. Has it been covered in any specific article or still to be covered?
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 13:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, everyone, I'm starting this discussion to inform that there needs to be better oversight by members of this project. Here on the English Wikipedia, there are dozens and maybe even hundreds of India-related articles that don't meet basic notability requirements. Bear in my mind, I'm not blaming the project for anything, however, there does not seem to be any involvement of this project in upholding the basic policies here on Wikipedia. I myself have nominated several articles, particularly on educational institutions in India, for deletion through PROD or to an Afd. Each one that was deleted all had failed to meet the GNG requirements. Even editors who are not members of this project, but are based in India have been creating articles on any given subject without knowing the requirements and don't improve their creations. These articles remain as stubs and/or orphans and have an extremely small chance of being expanded based on the limited information that exists.
Another factor is editors making wholesale changes such as moving articles without proper discussions on the right space such as article talk pages or the various discussion spaces like, Afd, Tfd, Ffd, Cfd, requested moves, etc... Now, these editors are new and learning their way and we should encourage informing them on how things work when it comes to editing on Wikipedia. This is where I think the responsibility of the project comes in. I alone can not go through every India-related article. But we should try to come up with a way to minimize the significant mess of non-notable articles and wholesale changes made by these editors.
This topic also includes categories and templates created by such users and are found to duplicate either existing categories and templates, or don't meet the necessity of having a category and template created.
I'm looking to hear back on how we can improve this issue. Feel free to ping me in response. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:05, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
All the important articles are writtenalready and so newer users will create pages on non-notable schools, films, actors and/or engage in conflict. Moreover, wikipedia disproportionately attracts passionate people, not experts, so notability grey areas are repeatedly tested. You can see this happen elsewhere too, NFOOT requirements were small enough that one in every six bio was a footballer's, but the RfC for stricter rules was blocked. Thousands more stubs were added semi-automatically from databases. The latest RfC isn't looking any better. Hemantha ( talk) 17:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion about whether an (alleged) premodern dynasty of Gilgit deserves an individual page. Thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 12:30, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
The Bhakti movement heralded the freedom struggle in India. During the Bhakti Yuga, the saints and mahants of this country, from every part of the country whether it is Swami Vivekananda, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Ramana Maharishi, were concerned about its spiritual consciousness. It served as the precursor to the revolt of 1857.
Once again in the Amrit Kaal [present years], the spiritual consciousness is awakening in the country. This spiritual consciousness is working to become the foundation for the reconstruction of the nation.
— "Amrit Yatra of Golden India" (p. 19) in New India Samachar, Volume 2, Issue 13. January 1 2022. Press Information Bureau: Government of India
Srinath Raghavan's tweet caught my attention. TrangaBellam ( talk) 08:37, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
In standard English (as far as I know), the voting for candidates to a legislature is called an "election". In India, it is referred to as "elections" (plural), while the voting for each constituency might be called an "election".
Does our "Indian English" usage allow the plural version? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:06, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Zamindar was vandalised. Could someone aware of the topic do some verifications and clean up? Thanks! — DaxServer ( talk) 09:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
There is an ongoing proposal on the reliable sources noticeboard regarding the blacklisting of websites of the Srivastava Group. If you are interested, please participate at WP:RSN § RfC: Srivastava Group. Tayi Arajakate Talk 02:54, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at this article? A bunch of IPs are switching between Tamil festival and Hindu festival. Though I've semi-protected it, I'm not sure which one is correct. Thanks. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 13:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I suspect that some people are concealing the content about Persecution of Dalits. Some are aggressively redirecting it without deleting it.
Georgethedragonslayer decided to revert me for Righting great wrongs but the rule itself is not claiming that I broke the law. [8]
Azuredivay, a complete stranger, is trying to intimidate me. I haven't ever encountered him before. [9]
I'm appealing to the entire Indian group for assistance and justice. Friendly Eagle ( talk) 05:27, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
"Dalits are treated equally by the constitution and laws of India."This is an utter non-sequitur. Whether or not we have an article about the phenomenon depends on how much coverage there is of the topic. There is a vast literature on caste-based violence and persecution, a vast literature on Dalits (including, but not limited to, any caste relations); far too large to be accommodated in single articles. As such, Persecution of Dalits is a valid spinoff. Furthermore, whether the term originated as a political term or not is irrelevant. We name our articles based on WP:COMMONNAME, and high-quality reliable sources consistently prefer the term "Dalit"; Britannica isn't a weighty enough to overcome that usage. The arguments you are putting forward suggest you need to go read some of these sources. Vanamonde ( Talk) 05:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Though all Dalits may belong to one or the other scheduled caste groups, not all groups in the list of scheduled castes are dalits. Chaipau ( talk) 14:45, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
English Wikipedia should probably have a standalone article on Narayan Apte as several other Wikipedias do (see Wikidata item Q1391266) and English Wikipedia once did. I can understand the logic of User:Winged Blades of Godric's decision to redirect our article, but the same rationale could be extended to apply to Nathuram Godse, if I'm not mistaken. Gandhi's assassination was a major event, so having multiple articles covering various people involved, etc. doesn't seem like an inherently bad idea; but more importantly (this is actually how this came to my attention), Googling the name "Narayan Apte" currently brings up a Fandom wiki as the top result, then German Wikipedia, and then our article on Narayan Hari Apte, which is pretty unsettling: while I'm sure the latter person was aware, during his lifetime, of the similarity of his name to that of one of the men who murdered the Father of India, I don't think he expected that decades after his own death something called Google would tie him with said murderer when something called Wikipedia no longer had a standalone something called a webpage about said murderer. We have a disambig headnote, but that doesn't show up in the Google preview, so I think we should probably include this in our determination of whether the Narayan Apte topic merits its own article. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Banaras Hindu University, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. User4edits ( talk) 13:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Bengal Volunteers needs attention or AfD. -- Valjean ( talk) 18:20, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion about whether a dynasty of Skardu deserves an individual page. Thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 17:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject Ganjam is (was?) never active. I think we should consider archiving it, and perhaps redirect the non-existing talk page(s) here. It was created by Kukunmishra ( talk · contribs), who last edited the wiki last year. The subpages Wikipedia:WikiProject Ganjam/Articles and Wikipedia:WikiProject Ganjam/Navigation are empty. Only the Wikipedia:WikiProject Ganjam/New articles is being updated by a bot. Perhaps the link to the bot update page could be added somewhere? If not, the config could be removed from the bot. — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 10:51, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Please give your advice on Draft:upGrad. It is a properly stated WP:COI about an Indian education company. The draft was declined at the AfC with the comment from the reviewer that it didn’t pass WP:NCORP. Do you think that this issue still exists after the rewrite? Any advice that you can give me on improving the article? Thanks! -- Bbarmadillo ( talk) 18:49, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion about whether a battle deserves an individual page. Thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 20:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Two different countries, two different newspapers, and two different authors, but exactly the same content:
Even the typos are identical:
“To our great disappoint, CFA did not consult any of us,” they said.
This is what I call Global Hindutva. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 05:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Is not Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India a duplicate of Fundamental rights in India + Directive Principles? I suggest making the former about Fundamental Duties alone.
Not much acquainted with Indian Constitution, hope the proposal is sensible. TrangaBellam ( talk) 06:38, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
The second point you've said is for a separate article on Fundamental Duties.- I thought that Fundamental Duties might be something important in enough to deserve a page. I cannot care less if the entire page can be gutted and FDs redirected to 42nd Amendment.
[Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties] are generally grouped together because of commonalities in the drafting history (as is demonstrated by the extensive section on that in the article)
The Fundamental Duties were later added to the Constitution by the 42nd Amendment in 1976.I consulted a few sources and none mentioned FDs to share a common drafting history with FRs and DPSP.
I thought that Fundamental Duties might be something important enough to deserve a page. I cannot care less if the entire page [is] gutted and FDs redirected to 42nd Amendment.So, I do not want a separate page on FDs. My sole aim is to not have a page that will necessarily be a duplicate of our pages on FR and DPSP, when they will be well-written enough. TrangaBellam ( talk) 18:30, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
I've been working on a series of biographies of Indian suffragists and writers for WP:WIRED and I hope that someone can help with sourcing and adding images to these articles (in addition to any other improvements that you can suggest). Most of these are from the 20th century (some 21st) and I'm not sure of where I might find the images. Would be very grateful for help. The pages are:
For the two AIWC *members, there are images on the AIWC website, but I am not sure of the copyright status.
Thank you! - Naushervan ( talk) 16:18, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, WikiProject,
Could someone review this newly created article for notability? I'm not familiar with the sources, my editing instinct was to tag it for deletion but I wanted to get a second opinion. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:47, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WhatsApp snooping scandal. Venkat TL ( talk) 14:33, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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Based on the SPI results, there is a multinational sock farm attacking Indian mythological articles with statement "Karna is the main protagonist of Mahabharata" and variations of this statement. @ DaxServer and @ MelanieN have found a few recently. Please report such socks on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yashthakurkamail.
Also does anyone know why someone is promoting Karna? Venkat TL ( talk) 18:54, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Could someone verify if these Karna edits on Jagadish Chandra Bose constitute a copyvio [23] ? The sourcing from a GoI page is also really unreliable as well. — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 11:14, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
I am new here. I made a couple of requests here, here and here. I don't know if I made those requests correctly. Please take a look and do the needful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:53AA:5467:E9D6:110A:3DBA:ABE ( talk) 08:46, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
The Maratha Empire article says, "The Marathas are credited for ending Mughal Rule over most of the Indian subcontinent", so should that sentence not be added to this article?. How do I get someone to do the needful? Almost a whole week has passed since I started making these requests!- 2405:204:5097:B014:F83A:2702:C785:FDDE ( talk) 19:46, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Raavan (2022 film) is ready for submission. ... २ तकरपेप्सी talk 18:23, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian politics § Election Results section of Constituency articles. Venkat TL ( talk) 13:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)-- Venkat TL ( talk) 13:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Greeting,
EN Wikipedia articles Police Commissioner of Kolkata and Ranjit Kumar Gupta show that by 1967 Ranjit Kumar Gupta took over Police commissioner responsibilities from one P.K. Sen. Same time one contemporary news report of the Indian Express in April 1969 names P.K. Sen's statement as Commissioner of Police. Another source Telegraph India seem to indicate Gupta took over from Sen some time in 1969 . This another news (Economic and Political Weekly report gives specific date 10 July 1970 as date of R.K. Gupta taking over from Mr. Sen.
So can some one help out in finding out and disambiguate up to when P.K. Sen was functioning as CoP and when did R.K. Gupta took over from him?
If possible what was the name of Dy. CoP's name in April 1969? This question since initials P.K. Sen can be fairly common in W. Bengal so by any chance there were more than 1 P.K. Sen in Kolkata Police in 1960s/ 70s hence there is confusion or the confusion is just like that?
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 11:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Khogong king of Draft:Alan Singh. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 02:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Flags – like or – are generally allowed (though not encouraged) in the infoboxes for populated places or administrative divisions: MOS:INFOBOXFLAG. However, for places in the disputed Kashmir region (whether administered by India or by Pakistan) it has been my understanding that the use of such flags is strongly discouraged. I'm planning to remove the flags from any articles that still use them. Any thoughts? – Uanfala (talk) 14:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
If anyone had a minute or two to review this short article, I would appreciate it. It looks like an article that needs strong sources that are probably easy to find if it is an accurate account of a historical figure. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 2 § Category:Neo-Nazism in India. Venkat TL ( talk) 11:53, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
The admin mistakenly closed it in 2 days. This thread has been reopened. Need more eyes from this wikiproject members. -- Venkat TL ( talk) 11:53, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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Community feedback is invited and welcome at this thread. TrangaBellam ( talk) 19:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi. Please see the following AfD:
Looking for anyone with access to sources/coverage in Hindi, if they exist. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:12, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello! I'm trying to find sources to create a notable article about the American Embassy School in Delhi.
I am not aware of ways to access 1970s era or so archives of The Hindu which would talk about the establishment of the school. Considering its profile and ties with the American community I imagine such articles would exist.
WhisperToMe ( talk) 03:31, 13 February 2022 (UTC)