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Whether people with an entry in the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography are inherently notable or not comes up with some regularity ever since Stuartyeates mass-produced stub entries for most of the missing DNZB articles. Before he did so, he extensively consulted on the proposal. We spend too much time discussing DNZB notability on a case-by-case basis, and when this last came up earlier this month, I thought it is about time that we resolve this issue once and for all. I have started work on a notability guideline for New Zealand people, and this needs to be a communal project. The draft sits in my userspace, but feel free to chip in at any time. Discussion is welcome; in fact it is essential that we have a discussion. Schwede 66 20:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
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The Who's Who volumes continued to at least 1995 - I have in front of me the 1995 edition of "New Zealand Who's Who Aotearoa", edited by Alister Taylor and Deborah Coddington. It's published by "New Zealand Who's Who Aotearoa Limited" with copyright dates 1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995. I wouldn't consider that listing in it conferred any degree of notability - many of the entries seem to have been imported from lists of members of professional organisations. I'd place its content at about the same level as the volumes of the Cyclopaedia of 1897-1908. Daveosaurus ( talk) 10:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Stuartyeates, I suggest that it's useful to compile a list of exclusions, as there aren't that many. I'm only aware of one of them. Anybody can/should contribute to the list: Schwede 66 01:26, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I've googled DNZB prostitutes and found one without an article (A. Swift), one with an article who is certainly not notable ( Jessie Finnie), and one that is at best borderline ( Barbara Weldon). Stuartyeates, would you want to put Finnie up for speedy deletion? Same with Weldon, or shall we have a formal discussion at AfD? Schwede 66 01:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
We have a draft status for this policy. Have we given everybody enough time to comment on this? Can this be turned into a policy accepted by the community? Or is more discussion required? Schwede 66 13:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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Whether people with an entry in the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography are inherently notable or not comes up with some regularity ever since Stuartyeates mass-produced stub entries for most of the missing DNZB articles. Before he did so, he extensively consulted on the proposal. We spend too much time discussing DNZB notability on a case-by-case basis, and when this last came up earlier this month, I thought it is about time that we resolve this issue once and for all. I have started work on a notability guideline for New Zealand people, and this needs to be a communal project. The draft sits in my userspace, but feel free to chip in at any time. Discussion is welcome; in fact it is essential that we have a discussion. Schwede 66 20:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Discussion moved to here from
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand#Notability (New Zealand people)
The Who's Who volumes continued to at least 1995 - I have in front of me the 1995 edition of "New Zealand Who's Who Aotearoa", edited by Alister Taylor and Deborah Coddington. It's published by "New Zealand Who's Who Aotearoa Limited" with copyright dates 1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995. I wouldn't consider that listing in it conferred any degree of notability - many of the entries seem to have been imported from lists of members of professional organisations. I'd place its content at about the same level as the volumes of the Cyclopaedia of 1897-1908. Daveosaurus ( talk) 10:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Stuartyeates, I suggest that it's useful to compile a list of exclusions, as there aren't that many. I'm only aware of one of them. Anybody can/should contribute to the list: Schwede 66 01:26, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I've googled DNZB prostitutes and found one without an article (A. Swift), one with an article who is certainly not notable ( Jessie Finnie), and one that is at best borderline ( Barbara Weldon). Stuartyeates, would you want to put Finnie up for speedy deletion? Same with Weldon, or shall we have a formal discussion at AfD? Schwede 66 01:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
We have a draft status for this policy. Have we given everybody enough time to comment on this? Can this be turned into a policy accepted by the community? Or is more discussion required? Schwede 66 13:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)