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If anyone knows how the above page was created, please contact me. The Transhumanist 23:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I was wondering how far your scope extended, and whether project banners should be placed on these pages - as most( if not all) help and contents pages have no associated project to provide centralised discussion? LeeVJ ( talk) 01:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Here's a quick attempt ising WPBannerMeta, no picture/icon - any ideas? L∴V 19:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
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I recently started editing a file WP:How to use primary sources (biological sciences). My goal here is to try to make it a little easier for non-biologists to track down and use primary sources, especially for breaking news items. I'm not sure how well I've accomplished this so far, but I'm curious what people think. What standard determines when such a page is no longer an essay but a reliable help document? Mike Serfas ( talk) 07:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Please see Help talk:Images and other uploaded files #Redirect to WP images page?. Eubulides ( talk) 22:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Currently clicking on Wikipedia:Introduction..2..3 discussion tab redirects to the hidden templates discussion, this gives the game away a little , and if you then click on the 'article' ( which is 'template' now ) really gives it away, this could also confuse new users. I'm not sure if it can be done but wouldn't it be better the other way rounf , i.e. redirect the template's talk to the articles talk ? Maybe we could add a template doc for each with a link to a subpage for discussing templates workings specifically away from casual readers ... ? L∴V 01:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Done Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi everyone - just saw this WikiProject and knew some people would be interested in this discussion: Wikipedia_talk:Help_desk#Adding_.23wikipedia-en-help_to_the_header. Would love ya'll's (i think i can do that, two apostrophes? ha!) input on the topic. Thanks. JoeSmack Talk 16:28, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I think somewhere in the project we could do with a 'what's happening' type section with links to current ongoing discussions that are important, need a broader perspective or would simply like further opinion on an idea ( I know I've suggested things on those quiet pages which just needed a second opinion to confirm it was good enough to act upon). I seen a neat scrollable box in another project before or we stick to a normal section, whether it should be part of this talk page or (gut feeling) on the main project page is another question ? L∴V 18:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Done Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 22:10, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a move request for the Edit summary page from HELP: to WP: space, might have some other viewpoints arrive there... Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 12:41, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
A number of articles have cropped up that need attention, but before they get lost I have just added this section Wikipedia:Help_Project#Articles_needing_attention linking to a subpage Wikipedia:Help Project/ArticleTLC listing articles that need work. Maybe we can turn it into a work list, but for now it serves as a useful way of quickly tracking articles that need some TLC. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 16:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
A main entry point, we have four tabs introducing wikipedia, linked from 'anyone can edit' and used as a 'start here' point for many a header/index/template: These are
The first page is fine, but 'more on editing' and 'explore are' just a bunch of links, not very good for a brief overview! I also feel Explore might have lost its way somewhere ( between how to browse articles vs community). I think for the purposes of a providing a quick overview, the second tab should be how to browse wikipedia articles, the third should be an introduction to the community side of WP. The tutorial itself covers the links in the current 'more on editing tab' in much better context, that's why I suggest we drop it / merge it with the last page of the tutorial (which needs some work too!). Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
We have WP:Talk page and WP:Talk page guidelines, both marked as guidelines. At WT:Talk page I've suggested making that one into a help page so we have one help page and one guideline. What do people think? (Might be best to respond over there.)-- Kotniski ( talk) 14:53, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I have started working through Search for all "prefix:Help:" pages and tagging relevent pages, cleaning up a few on the way, There are a quite a few with active editors, I hope this drive brings them together... If you are one of those editors please add your two cents/pennies all contributions, ideas and suggestions are welcomed L∴V 01:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
current position Help:Monobook L∴V 01:49, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I think I'm mostly done, well at least the majority, if anyone spots whle categories that I have missed. I have left out essays and most guidelines for now ( a couple were purely how-to-s so i just tagged, which I'll leave for further contemplation. THere's also a huge amount of help which we shouldn't try to cover e.g. template documentation, I'd suggest for now as an ad-hoc for very common templates or something. I'll leave tagging and scope for a bit, and see how what comments come back ( if any) from the new tags. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 02:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
...of course this doesn't include watched pages for disputes, editor critique or violations connected to content/policies. See Wikipedia:Where_to_ask_a_question and Wikipedia:Requests. This is a lot for any new editor to soak in, geez. JoeSmack Talk 16:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
It seems to me that Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem could be improved quite a bit. Any thoughts/volunteers? Rd232 talk 16:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
It now redirects to this project but see [1] for some history of how this project started and there may be some useful ideas to use from that page... -- œ ™ 03:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I think we'd have some people interested in this RfC.... Wikipedia:Requests for comment/new users... JoeSmack Talk 15:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I ran across Wikipedia:How to edit a page for the first time in ages and slapped a how-to on it, but it looks like it could use some TLC. I mentioned it to Kotniski and they suggested I mention it here. It's a pretty ugly page for one that's pretty important for newcomers, if you ask me. I remember finding it rather ugly back when I first encountered it as a newbie. Hiding T 17:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Particularly changing "Image:" to "File:" and other little things. -- œ ™ 01:32, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I stumbled upon [ Help:Starting a new page] and was dismayed, info ony really relevent to advanced editting at the end and overcomplicated redundent stuff for newbies at the front ( a hangover from mediawiki help). Following the links I saw a lot of redirects of 'create an article' sort came here. so I cut the technical stuff to a new page Help:Empty pages, and redirected Help:Starting a new page to Wikipedia:Starting an article, altered the shortcuts ( creating a new WP:EMPTY for empty pages, and think that the whole 'user looking to create an article' situation is drastically improved. The goof - I see that a few editors have been at the article this year trying to fix it. I am hoping you editors where also trying to work out just what to do with this help file and I have now solved it, failing that if there really is a need for how to create a new page we should have this incorporated into creating article/template type help. Let me know if I've made a mess and I'll fix... Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 02:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought with a possible new influx of editors I'd make the intro and headers more descriptive / friendly - I hope that's alright, but as always, please modify to your own heart's ..., hopefully I'm judging the sentiment of everyone correctly and not causing any offense or annoyance. In case anyone missed i - I I prefer to be bold and take no offense at being reverted! right onto a few more project banner taggings .... ! Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 |
If anyone knows how the above page was created, please contact me. The Transhumanist 23:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I was wondering how far your scope extended, and whether project banners should be placed on these pages - as most( if not all) help and contents pages have no associated project to provide centralised discussion? LeeVJ ( talk) 01:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Here's a quick attempt ising WPBannerMeta, no picture/icon - any ideas? L∴V 19:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Help | ||||
|
I recently started editing a file WP:How to use primary sources (biological sciences). My goal here is to try to make it a little easier for non-biologists to track down and use primary sources, especially for breaking news items. I'm not sure how well I've accomplished this so far, but I'm curious what people think. What standard determines when such a page is no longer an essay but a reliable help document? Mike Serfas ( talk) 07:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Please see Help talk:Images and other uploaded files #Redirect to WP images page?. Eubulides ( talk) 22:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Currently clicking on Wikipedia:Introduction..2..3 discussion tab redirects to the hidden templates discussion, this gives the game away a little , and if you then click on the 'article' ( which is 'template' now ) really gives it away, this could also confuse new users. I'm not sure if it can be done but wouldn't it be better the other way rounf , i.e. redirect the template's talk to the articles talk ? Maybe we could add a template doc for each with a link to a subpage for discussing templates workings specifically away from casual readers ... ? L∴V 01:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Done Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi everyone - just saw this WikiProject and knew some people would be interested in this discussion: Wikipedia_talk:Help_desk#Adding_.23wikipedia-en-help_to_the_header. Would love ya'll's (i think i can do that, two apostrophes? ha!) input on the topic. Thanks. JoeSmack Talk 16:28, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I think somewhere in the project we could do with a 'what's happening' type section with links to current ongoing discussions that are important, need a broader perspective or would simply like further opinion on an idea ( I know I've suggested things on those quiet pages which just needed a second opinion to confirm it was good enough to act upon). I seen a neat scrollable box in another project before or we stick to a normal section, whether it should be part of this talk page or (gut feeling) on the main project page is another question ? L∴V 18:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Done Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 22:10, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a move request for the Edit summary page from HELP: to WP: space, might have some other viewpoints arrive there... Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 12:41, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
A number of articles have cropped up that need attention, but before they get lost I have just added this section Wikipedia:Help_Project#Articles_needing_attention linking to a subpage Wikipedia:Help Project/ArticleTLC listing articles that need work. Maybe we can turn it into a work list, but for now it serves as a useful way of quickly tracking articles that need some TLC. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 16:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
A main entry point, we have four tabs introducing wikipedia, linked from 'anyone can edit' and used as a 'start here' point for many a header/index/template: These are
The first page is fine, but 'more on editing' and 'explore are' just a bunch of links, not very good for a brief overview! I also feel Explore might have lost its way somewhere ( between how to browse articles vs community). I think for the purposes of a providing a quick overview, the second tab should be how to browse wikipedia articles, the third should be an introduction to the community side of WP. The tutorial itself covers the links in the current 'more on editing tab' in much better context, that's why I suggest we drop it / merge it with the last page of the tutorial (which needs some work too!). Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
We have WP:Talk page and WP:Talk page guidelines, both marked as guidelines. At WT:Talk page I've suggested making that one into a help page so we have one help page and one guideline. What do people think? (Might be best to respond over there.)-- Kotniski ( talk) 14:53, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I have started working through Search for all "prefix:Help:" pages and tagging relevent pages, cleaning up a few on the way, There are a quite a few with active editors, I hope this drive brings them together... If you are one of those editors please add your two cents/pennies all contributions, ideas and suggestions are welcomed L∴V 01:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
current position Help:Monobook L∴V 01:49, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I think I'm mostly done, well at least the majority, if anyone spots whle categories that I have missed. I have left out essays and most guidelines for now ( a couple were purely how-to-s so i just tagged, which I'll leave for further contemplation. THere's also a huge amount of help which we shouldn't try to cover e.g. template documentation, I'd suggest for now as an ad-hoc for very common templates or something. I'll leave tagging and scope for a bit, and see how what comments come back ( if any) from the new tags. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 02:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
...of course this doesn't include watched pages for disputes, editor critique or violations connected to content/policies. See Wikipedia:Where_to_ask_a_question and Wikipedia:Requests. This is a lot for any new editor to soak in, geez. JoeSmack Talk 16:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
It seems to me that Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem could be improved quite a bit. Any thoughts/volunteers? Rd232 talk 16:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
It now redirects to this project but see [1] for some history of how this project started and there may be some useful ideas to use from that page... -- œ ™ 03:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I think we'd have some people interested in this RfC.... Wikipedia:Requests for comment/new users... JoeSmack Talk 15:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I ran across Wikipedia:How to edit a page for the first time in ages and slapped a how-to on it, but it looks like it could use some TLC. I mentioned it to Kotniski and they suggested I mention it here. It's a pretty ugly page for one that's pretty important for newcomers, if you ask me. I remember finding it rather ugly back when I first encountered it as a newbie. Hiding T 17:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Particularly changing "Image:" to "File:" and other little things. -- œ ™ 01:32, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I stumbled upon [ Help:Starting a new page] and was dismayed, info ony really relevent to advanced editting at the end and overcomplicated redundent stuff for newbies at the front ( a hangover from mediawiki help). Following the links I saw a lot of redirects of 'create an article' sort came here. so I cut the technical stuff to a new page Help:Empty pages, and redirected Help:Starting a new page to Wikipedia:Starting an article, altered the shortcuts ( creating a new WP:EMPTY for empty pages, and think that the whole 'user looking to create an article' situation is drastically improved. The goof - I see that a few editors have been at the article this year trying to fix it. I am hoping you editors where also trying to work out just what to do with this help file and I have now solved it, failing that if there really is a need for how to create a new page we should have this incorporated into creating article/template type help. Let me know if I've made a mess and I'll fix... Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 02:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought with a possible new influx of editors I'd make the intro and headers more descriptive / friendly - I hope that's alright, but as always, please modify to your own heart's ..., hopefully I'm judging the sentiment of everyone correctly and not causing any offense or annoyance. In case anyone missed i - I I prefer to be bold and take no offense at being reverted! right onto a few more project banner taggings .... ! Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)