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Topics | Wikipedia:Contents | Megaportals | Wikipedia:Core topics, inner levels | Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Core topics | Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Core topics/Supplement | Wikipedia:1,000 core topics |
Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts, Culture | Humanities, 15 | Culture; Humanities, 24 | Cultural topics (120) | Culture; Humanities, 162 |
Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography | Geography, 65; Countries | |||
Health and fitness | Health and fitness | Health | Medicine | |||
History and events | History and events | History, Current events | ||||
Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics, Logic | Mathematics | Mathematics, 5 | Math | |
Natural and physical sciences | Natural and physical sciences | Science | Natural Science | Earth, 16; Life science; Physical science, 29 | Science; Chemical elements, 118 | |
People and self | People and self | Biography, Personal life | Everyday life, 9 | Biographies, 201 | ||
Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy, Thinking | Philosophy | |||
Religion and belief systems | Religion | Religion | ||||
Reference | Reference | Library and information science | ||||
Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Science, Society | Social Sciences, 10 | Social science, 22; society, 15 | Social sciences, 173 | |
Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Applied Arts and Sciences, 14 | Technology, 18 | Technical topics (135) | Technology |
Topics | Wikipedia:Version 0.5 | Wikipedia:Vital articles | Wikipedia:Vital articles/Expanded | Wikipedia:Featured articles | ||
Arts and culture | Arts, Language and literature | Arts | Arts | Art; Awards, decorations and vexillology; Culture; Food and drink; Language and linguistics; Literature and theatre; Music | ||
Geography and places | Geography | Geography | Geography | Geography and places | ||
Health and fitness | Health, Medicine | Health, Medicine | Medicine | |||
History and events | History | History | History | Archaeology, History, Heraldry | ||
Mathematics and logic | Mathematics | Mathematics, Measurement | Mathematics, Measurement | Mathematics | ||
Natural and physical sciences | Natural sciences | Science | Science | Biology; Chemistry and mineralogy; Geology, geophysics and meteorology; Physics and astronomy | ||
People and self | Everyday life | People, Everyday life | People, Everyday life | Royalty and nobility; Sport and recreation, Video games | ||
Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy | Philosophy | Philosophy | Philosophy | ||
Religion and belief systems | Religion | Religion | Religion | Religion, mysticism and mythology | ||
Reference | ||||||
Social sciences and society | Society and social sciences | Society and social sciences | Society and social sciences | Business and finance, Economics, Education, Law, Media, Politics and government, Psychology, Society, Warfare | ||
Technology and applied sciences | Applied sciences and technology | Technology | Technology | Architecture, Computing, Engineering and technology, Transport | ||
Category:Fundamental categories | Topics | Category:Main topic classifications | Category:Wikipedia core topics | Category:Top-importance articles | ||
Information | ||||||
Nature | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics | Math | |||
Natural and physical sciences | Astronomy, Biology, Chemistry, Earth sciences, Environment, Geology, Nature, Physics, Science | Ecology, Science | ||||
Reference | ||||||
Technology and applied sciences | Agriculture, Applied sciences, Architecture, Computing, Technology | Construction, Technology | ||||
Society | Arts and culture | Arts, Crafts, Culture, Film, Language, Literature, Music, Visual arts | Culture, Film | |||
Geography and places | Geography | |||||
Health and fitness | Health, Medicine | Health sciences, Nutrition | ||||
History and events | Archaeology, Events, History | |||||
People and self | Entertainment, People, Radio | Biography | ||||
Social sciences and society | Business, Economics, Education, Law, Military, Politics, Psychology, Society | Society | ||||
Structure | ||||||
Thought | Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy, Thought | ||||
Religion and belief systems | Religion |
Names in TOCs – Update as changes are made | ||||||
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Topics | Overviews | Topics | Basic topics | Glossaries | Portals | Categories |
Reference | Reference | Reference | Reference | |||
Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture |
Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places |
Health and fitness | Health and fitness | Health and health science | Health and fitness | Health | Health | Health and fitness |
History and events | History and events | History and events | History and events | History and events | History and Current events | History and events |
Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and Logic | Mathematics and logic |
Natural and physical sciences | Natural sciences and nature | Natural and physical sciences | Natural sciences and nature | Natural sciences and nature | Natural and physical sciences | Natural sciences and nature |
People and self | People and self | People and self | People and self | People and self | ||
Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy | Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy, religion, and spirituality | Philosophy, religion, and spirituality | Philosophy and thinking |
Religion and belief systems | Religion and belief systems | Religion and spirituality | Religion and spirituality | Religion and belief systems | ||
Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Social sciences and Society | Social sciences and society |
Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and Engineering | Technology and applied sciences |
Topic Names & Labels – Update as changes are made | |
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Subpages, TOCs, Sections | Main Page, Browse bars |
Reference | Reference |
Culture and the arts | Culture, arts |
Geography and places | Geography |
Health and fitness | Health |
History and events | History |
Mathematics and logic | Mathematics |
Natural and physical sciences | Nature |
People and self | People |
Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy |
Religion and belief systems | Religion |
Social sciences and society | Society |
Technology and applied sciences | Technology |
I think that this page should be redesigned to look more like a table of contents page. This page is more about a table of contents for multiple tables of contents and I would like to see it look more like a list of articles. Pinging Sdkb to see if he/she has some ideas on what we do to improve the page. Other editors are welcome to comment as well. Interstellarity ( talk) 19:23, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( non-admin closure) SnowFire ( talk) 19:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Contents → Wikipedia:Knowledge hub – I feel like that the title of "Contents" doesn't give a good overview of what this page is about. The title of "Knowledge hub" would be a much better title so that people are more inclined to explore this page. Interstellarity ( talk) 22:07, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Also consider a title like WP:Resource center. Interstellarity ( talk) 23:57, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
I can't believe my eyes.
I just went browsing Wikipedia using its mobile view (by placing an "m" between "en" and "wikipedia" in the URL for this page), and I noticed that the "Contents" link is missing from mobile view's main menu.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Contents and click on the hamburger menu icon (3 bars) to the left of the Wikipedia globe.
That means that Wikipedia's contents system is invisible to the majority of people who access this website.
This is unfathomable: The vast majority of people who use Wikipedia don't even know that the contents system exists!
How can we fix this?
How can we get the "Contents" link added to the main menu of Wikipedia's mobile view?
Does anyone know the link to mobile view's main menu talk page?
Thank you. Sincerely, —
The Transhumanist
21:46, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
P.S.: Pinging: @ Interstellarity, Moxy, Ca, ULPS, PerfectSoundWhatever, Estar8806, AmandaSLawrence, and Zippybonzo (alt):. — The Transhumanist 21:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Upon looking over previous proposals at "Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)" to change mobile view's hamburger menu, it may not be a simple matter of requesting the addition of "Contents"...
How the contents system (that is, this page and all of its member pages) looks on mobile devices has to be anticipated before making a request to provide easy access.
If anyone is interested in exploring how to provide the 60%+ users of WP who do not typically see the contents pages, with the contents pages, there is a mobile view link at the bottom of every page. Please visit each contents page while in the mobile view, with content size adjusted to as close an approximation as you can to simulate a smart phone screen, while sizing the window to the proportion of a mobile phone, and see if there are any problems with browsing and reading the contents pages. If you have a smart phone or other mobile device that can access Wikipedia, use that.
Let us know here what you learn.
Well, I'm off to do the same. Ciao, —
The Transhumanist
03:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Wow. I'm blown away.
This is definitely worth discussing.
I noticed that it has 12 subject area classifications, while Wikipedia has 13. The Reference area is missing. That makes 13, which is awkward to put in a block, but could it be possible to add that to the top, centered above the block, or to the bottom, centered below the block? I'm not sure what picture could be used for that (a stack of books, maybe?), but it would be a shame to leave an entire knowledge classification out of our knowledge classification system.
Next, is where can we make use of this? It would be a shame to have it sitting on a mere draft page. —
The Transhumanist
22:39, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
What do you think of this edit right here? I think it would be better to consolidate sections with vital articles at the top since it is a good way to organize the list. Please discuss here. Interstellarity ( talk) 02:13, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Contents/Lists ( Standardized template) about introducing a standardized and accessible format for its subpages that may be of interest. – BrandonXLF ( talk) 21:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
This is the
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This page is laid out and designed as part of a set of pages. To discuss the set as a whole, see Wikipedia talk:Contents. For more information on Wikipedia's contents system as a whole, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Contents. |
Wikipedia:Contents is a reader-facing page intended for viewing by non-editors. Please prioritize their needs when adjusting its design, and move editor-facing elements to other pages. |
The first four pages of archives for this page, were moved to become archive-subpages of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contents. |
This page has archives. Sections older than 60 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 5 sections are present. |
Main topics classification systems – Update as changes are made | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Topics | Wikipedia:Contents | Megaportals | Wikipedia:Core topics, inner levels | Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Core topics | Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Core topics/Supplement | Wikipedia:1,000 core topics |
Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts, Culture | Humanities, 15 | Culture; Humanities, 24 | Cultural topics (120) | Culture; Humanities, 162 |
Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography | Geography, 65; Countries | |||
Health and fitness | Health and fitness | Health | Medicine | |||
History and events | History and events | History, Current events | ||||
Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics, Logic | Mathematics | Mathematics, 5 | Math | |
Natural and physical sciences | Natural and physical sciences | Science | Natural Science | Earth, 16; Life science; Physical science, 29 | Science; Chemical elements, 118 | |
People and self | People and self | Biography, Personal life | Everyday life, 9 | Biographies, 201 | ||
Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy, Thinking | Philosophy | |||
Religion and belief systems | Religion | Religion | ||||
Reference | Reference | Library and information science | ||||
Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Science, Society | Social Sciences, 10 | Social science, 22; society, 15 | Social sciences, 173 | |
Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Applied Arts and Sciences, 14 | Technology, 18 | Technical topics (135) | Technology |
Topics | Wikipedia:Version 0.5 | Wikipedia:Vital articles | Wikipedia:Vital articles/Expanded | Wikipedia:Featured articles | ||
Arts and culture | Arts, Language and literature | Arts | Arts | Art; Awards, decorations and vexillology; Culture; Food and drink; Language and linguistics; Literature and theatre; Music | ||
Geography and places | Geography | Geography | Geography | Geography and places | ||
Health and fitness | Health, Medicine | Health, Medicine | Medicine | |||
History and events | History | History | History | Archaeology, History, Heraldry | ||
Mathematics and logic | Mathematics | Mathematics, Measurement | Mathematics, Measurement | Mathematics | ||
Natural and physical sciences | Natural sciences | Science | Science | Biology; Chemistry and mineralogy; Geology, geophysics and meteorology; Physics and astronomy | ||
People and self | Everyday life | People, Everyday life | People, Everyday life | Royalty and nobility; Sport and recreation, Video games | ||
Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy | Philosophy | Philosophy | Philosophy | ||
Religion and belief systems | Religion | Religion | Religion | Religion, mysticism and mythology | ||
Reference | ||||||
Social sciences and society | Society and social sciences | Society and social sciences | Society and social sciences | Business and finance, Economics, Education, Law, Media, Politics and government, Psychology, Society, Warfare | ||
Technology and applied sciences | Applied sciences and technology | Technology | Technology | Architecture, Computing, Engineering and technology, Transport | ||
Category:Fundamental categories | Topics | Category:Main topic classifications | Category:Wikipedia core topics | Category:Top-importance articles | ||
Information | ||||||
Nature | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics | Math | |||
Natural and physical sciences | Astronomy, Biology, Chemistry, Earth sciences, Environment, Geology, Nature, Physics, Science | Ecology, Science | ||||
Reference | ||||||
Technology and applied sciences | Agriculture, Applied sciences, Architecture, Computing, Technology | Construction, Technology | ||||
Society | Arts and culture | Arts, Crafts, Culture, Film, Language, Literature, Music, Visual arts | Culture, Film | |||
Geography and places | Geography | |||||
Health and fitness | Health, Medicine | Health sciences, Nutrition | ||||
History and events | Archaeology, Events, History | |||||
People and self | Entertainment, People, Radio | Biography | ||||
Social sciences and society | Business, Economics, Education, Law, Military, Politics, Psychology, Society | Society | ||||
Structure | ||||||
Thought | Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy, Thought | ||||
Religion and belief systems | Religion |
Names in TOCs – Update as changes are made | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Topics | Overviews | Topics | Basic topics | Glossaries | Portals | Categories |
Reference | Reference | Reference | Reference | |||
Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture | Arts and culture |
Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places | Geography and places |
Health and fitness | Health and fitness | Health and health science | Health and fitness | Health | Health | Health and fitness |
History and events | History and events | History and events | History and events | History and events | History and Current events | History and events |
Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and logic | Mathematics and Logic | Mathematics and logic |
Natural and physical sciences | Natural sciences and nature | Natural and physical sciences | Natural sciences and nature | Natural sciences and nature | Natural and physical sciences | Natural sciences and nature |
People and self | People and self | People and self | People and self | People and self | ||
Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy | Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy, religion, and spirituality | Philosophy, religion, and spirituality | Philosophy and thinking |
Religion and belief systems | Religion and belief systems | Religion and spirituality | Religion and spirituality | Religion and belief systems | ||
Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Social sciences and society | Social sciences and Society | Social sciences and society |
Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and applied sciences | Technology and Engineering | Technology and applied sciences |
Topic Names & Labels – Update as changes are made | |
---|---|
Subpages, TOCs, Sections | Main Page, Browse bars |
Reference | Reference |
Culture and the arts | Culture, arts |
Geography and places | Geography |
Health and fitness | Health |
History and events | History |
Mathematics and logic | Mathematics |
Natural and physical sciences | Nature |
People and self | People |
Philosophy and thinking | Philosophy |
Religion and belief systems | Religion |
Social sciences and society | Society |
Technology and applied sciences | Technology |
I think that this page should be redesigned to look more like a table of contents page. This page is more about a table of contents for multiple tables of contents and I would like to see it look more like a list of articles. Pinging Sdkb to see if he/she has some ideas on what we do to improve the page. Other editors are welcome to comment as well. Interstellarity ( talk) 19:23, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( non-admin closure) SnowFire ( talk) 19:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Contents → Wikipedia:Knowledge hub – I feel like that the title of "Contents" doesn't give a good overview of what this page is about. The title of "Knowledge hub" would be a much better title so that people are more inclined to explore this page. Interstellarity ( talk) 22:07, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Also consider a title like WP:Resource center. Interstellarity ( talk) 23:57, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
I can't believe my eyes.
I just went browsing Wikipedia using its mobile view (by placing an "m" between "en" and "wikipedia" in the URL for this page), and I noticed that the "Contents" link is missing from mobile view's main menu.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Contents and click on the hamburger menu icon (3 bars) to the left of the Wikipedia globe.
That means that Wikipedia's contents system is invisible to the majority of people who access this website.
This is unfathomable: The vast majority of people who use Wikipedia don't even know that the contents system exists!
How can we fix this?
How can we get the "Contents" link added to the main menu of Wikipedia's mobile view?
Does anyone know the link to mobile view's main menu talk page?
Thank you. Sincerely, —
The Transhumanist
21:46, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
P.S.: Pinging: @ Interstellarity, Moxy, Ca, ULPS, PerfectSoundWhatever, Estar8806, AmandaSLawrence, and Zippybonzo (alt):. — The Transhumanist 21:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Upon looking over previous proposals at "Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)" to change mobile view's hamburger menu, it may not be a simple matter of requesting the addition of "Contents"...
How the contents system (that is, this page and all of its member pages) looks on mobile devices has to be anticipated before making a request to provide easy access.
If anyone is interested in exploring how to provide the 60%+ users of WP who do not typically see the contents pages, with the contents pages, there is a mobile view link at the bottom of every page. Please visit each contents page while in the mobile view, with content size adjusted to as close an approximation as you can to simulate a smart phone screen, while sizing the window to the proportion of a mobile phone, and see if there are any problems with browsing and reading the contents pages. If you have a smart phone or other mobile device that can access Wikipedia, use that.
Let us know here what you learn.
Well, I'm off to do the same. Ciao, —
The Transhumanist
03:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Wow. I'm blown away.
This is definitely worth discussing.
I noticed that it has 12 subject area classifications, while Wikipedia has 13. The Reference area is missing. That makes 13, which is awkward to put in a block, but could it be possible to add that to the top, centered above the block, or to the bottom, centered below the block? I'm not sure what picture could be used for that (a stack of books, maybe?), but it would be a shame to leave an entire knowledge classification out of our knowledge classification system.
Next, is where can we make use of this? It would be a shame to have it sitting on a mere draft page. —
The Transhumanist
22:39, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
What do you think of this edit right here? I think it would be better to consolidate sections with vital articles at the top since it is a good way to organize the list. Please discuss here. Interstellarity ( talk) 02:13, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Contents/Lists ( Standardized template) about introducing a standardized and accessible format for its subpages that may be of interest. – BrandonXLF ( talk) 21:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)