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Surely that is rather an odd illustration to pick given the POV reflected in this essay? Isn't a government chamber precisely the sort of place a statement will be judged by the repute of the person making it? If that one person is respected then the statement will be accepted. If not, then it is liable to be rejected. Is that the model you are arguing for on wiki? Sandpiper ( talk) 18:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Interesting essay, hope my changes will help. I softened some claims that unsourced information must be original research. The alternative is that the information exists in reliable sources, but the editor(s) who put that information in the article did not bother citing sources – perhaps out of ignorance of wiki policy or because they believed their edits were so uncontroversial they were unlikely to be challenged. Baileypalblue ( talk) 19:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Cesiumfrog ( talk) 03:01, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Should we not consider that a number of papers by the same author or by the same publisher are functionally a single source? It seems obvious, yet the essay says nothing about it. LeadSongDog come howl! 17:57, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
This is a long shot, but I don't even know where to begin searching/asking, so maybe some random stranger can help me out.
There's an article that's been bugging me for more than a year. It's got 57 citations in the body. The content is almost entirely relying on two freshman-level texts, 19 cites to one and 13 to the other. Both texts have a co-editor in common. There's a further six sites to a single journal article written by that editor. In sum, he is the source for 38 of the 57 appeals to authority.
Maybe that editor put all that stuff in this article, though that's (hopefully) far-fetched. My gut says there might be plagiarism or at least generalized close paraphrasing. Possibly worse, credit for these insights is likely being given here to a book's editors rather than a paper's authors. But even an old edition of one of these books goes for no less than $46 on Amazon, and I can't locate the content online without a paywall.
Weeb Dingle ( talk) 00:17, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
I have been contributing my time to expanding stubs that exist in a enormous meshes of interconnected and even interdependent pages, many of which were created years ago as single source stubs, but did not get tagged as single source until this year after I make early-stage, incomplete expansions. My curiosity became whether single source tags for the particular type of stubs that I have been working on were appropriate. That is, isn't the stub tag sufficient for two-line stubs, especially where the single sources have been accepted as sufficiently notable for each generating hundreds of stubs?
My first impressions of the single source tag was that is was a request for article improvement. But, having just read this policy, it is apparent that the concern is more about notability rather than citation sufficiency with implicit threat of deletion. To be more succinct, the application of the single source tag now communicates to me that the tagging editor is raising the question of the notability and pending of the stub's topic.
Within the scope of stubs I have been working with, a particular primary single source for generating many stubs is global in scope, but contains many dated or informal classifications; so, many of my first steps on a page is to replace that single source with an authoritative, single source of current and formal terminologies. This action has in cases attracted a single source tag, which for me is WP:DISRUPTIVE.
Most of the time, though, scaring up an independent second source is as easy as a Martian Walker stepping over a ridge to scare up humans, especially when the authoritative single source lists additional authoritative sources. That is probably the way to go, but, it does take time, and there are hundreds (rough estimate) of such articles.
I guess, I am just asking for clarification; how appropriate are single source tag for stubs where the single source does evidence notability.
IveGoneAway ( talk) 15:50, 27 March 2021 (UTC) 13:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Terms of use 117.20.115.80 ( talk) 01:11, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Be minded of this, we aren't judged by stupid people and we know education is not responding to the re cent news correctly. We have retardation of the wise and know it is exactly what is wrong. Do not empathize or care except attention to get around the good decision to make n 76.72.226.104 ( talk) 14:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
I'm a humble and obedience boy i and my brother are of a good help to the modern world and our environment by the special grace of God we shall live to tell the story on how we overcome thanks to my humble self shalom — Preceding unsigned comment added by GABRIEL A ENOCH ( talk • contribs) 13:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
If there is a group of citations for a statement of fact in Wikipedia made by a Wikipedia:Reliable source, and it has 3 other supporting citations that specifically and explicitly only reference the first citation for its outline of the statement of fact, this would be a situation of Wikipedia:ONESOURCE, correct? Eruditess ( talk) 18:35, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Surely that is rather an odd illustration to pick given the POV reflected in this essay? Isn't a government chamber precisely the sort of place a statement will be judged by the repute of the person making it? If that one person is respected then the statement will be accepted. If not, then it is liable to be rejected. Is that the model you are arguing for on wiki? Sandpiper ( talk) 18:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Interesting essay, hope my changes will help. I softened some claims that unsourced information must be original research. The alternative is that the information exists in reliable sources, but the editor(s) who put that information in the article did not bother citing sources – perhaps out of ignorance of wiki policy or because they believed their edits were so uncontroversial they were unlikely to be challenged. Baileypalblue ( talk) 19:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Cesiumfrog ( talk) 03:01, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Should we not consider that a number of papers by the same author or by the same publisher are functionally a single source? It seems obvious, yet the essay says nothing about it. LeadSongDog come howl! 17:57, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
This is a long shot, but I don't even know where to begin searching/asking, so maybe some random stranger can help me out.
There's an article that's been bugging me for more than a year. It's got 57 citations in the body. The content is almost entirely relying on two freshman-level texts, 19 cites to one and 13 to the other. Both texts have a co-editor in common. There's a further six sites to a single journal article written by that editor. In sum, he is the source for 38 of the 57 appeals to authority.
Maybe that editor put all that stuff in this article, though that's (hopefully) far-fetched. My gut says there might be plagiarism or at least generalized close paraphrasing. Possibly worse, credit for these insights is likely being given here to a book's editors rather than a paper's authors. But even an old edition of one of these books goes for no less than $46 on Amazon, and I can't locate the content online without a paywall.
Weeb Dingle ( talk) 00:17, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
I have been contributing my time to expanding stubs that exist in a enormous meshes of interconnected and even interdependent pages, many of which were created years ago as single source stubs, but did not get tagged as single source until this year after I make early-stage, incomplete expansions. My curiosity became whether single source tags for the particular type of stubs that I have been working on were appropriate. That is, isn't the stub tag sufficient for two-line stubs, especially where the single sources have been accepted as sufficiently notable for each generating hundreds of stubs?
My first impressions of the single source tag was that is was a request for article improvement. But, having just read this policy, it is apparent that the concern is more about notability rather than citation sufficiency with implicit threat of deletion. To be more succinct, the application of the single source tag now communicates to me that the tagging editor is raising the question of the notability and pending of the stub's topic.
Within the scope of stubs I have been working with, a particular primary single source for generating many stubs is global in scope, but contains many dated or informal classifications; so, many of my first steps on a page is to replace that single source with an authoritative, single source of current and formal terminologies. This action has in cases attracted a single source tag, which for me is WP:DISRUPTIVE.
Most of the time, though, scaring up an independent second source is as easy as a Martian Walker stepping over a ridge to scare up humans, especially when the authoritative single source lists additional authoritative sources. That is probably the way to go, but, it does take time, and there are hundreds (rough estimate) of such articles.
I guess, I am just asking for clarification; how appropriate are single source tag for stubs where the single source does evidence notability.
IveGoneAway ( talk) 15:50, 27 March 2021 (UTC) 13:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Terms of use 117.20.115.80 ( talk) 01:11, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Be minded of this, we aren't judged by stupid people and we know education is not responding to the re cent news correctly. We have retardation of the wise and know it is exactly what is wrong. Do not empathize or care except attention to get around the good decision to make n 76.72.226.104 ( talk) 14:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
I'm a humble and obedience boy i and my brother are of a good help to the modern world and our environment by the special grace of God we shall live to tell the story on how we overcome thanks to my humble self shalom — Preceding unsigned comment added by GABRIEL A ENOCH ( talk • contribs) 13:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
If there is a group of citations for a statement of fact in Wikipedia made by a Wikipedia:Reliable source, and it has 3 other supporting citations that specifically and explicitly only reference the first citation for its outline of the statement of fact, this would be a situation of Wikipedia:ONESOURCE, correct? Eruditess ( talk) 18:35, 5 May 2023 (UTC)