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PlanespotterA320

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16 February 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

After checking the history of Genocide denial, Genocide denial may have an active sock puppet.

  1. It should the earliest edit warring at Genocide denial.. 03:49, 7 May 2021
  2. PlanespotterA320's edits include deleted === China === and adding === United States ===.

Through WP:duck,these links may prove that they may be related.

Add === United States ===

  1. 102.38.159.75 Proxy IP
  2. 88.166.58.158 Proxy IP
  3. 141.134.226.127 Proxy IP
  4. אברהסה+בו Sock puppet account
  5. 5.38.218.103
  6. PlanespotterA320
  7. Sunderland Renaissance

Deleted === China ===

  1. Thucydides411 16:01, 17 February 2022
  2. Conyeetol0 3 edit in en.wikipedia.org.
  3. HanKim20 74 edit in en.wikipedia.org. 07:13, 7 May 2021
  4. Sunderland Renaissance.

My opinion:Probably because he is dissatisfied with China being added to the Genocide denial(03:49, 7 May 2021 and 07:13, 7 May 2021), so he wants to add the United States to the Genocide denial.-- Rastinition ( talk) 23:17, 16 February 2022 (UTC) reply

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As an accused party, I am happy to affirm my innocence by fully cooperating with this investigation in good faith. I am willing to voluntarily request a checkuser in order to confirm I have no affiliation with any of the above accounts, and likewise bar the article in question my areas of editing and portfolio are completely different to the above. The reason I am being accused of such is because on Genocide Denial I re=added some content which was removed by Amigao as part of a dispute with him, as I believe he is engaging in widespread POV editing. I have been accused of being a "sleeper account"- but this is false as I have a long term consistent pattern of constructive editing on a dedicated and unique field of topics. Otherwise, I have nothing to hide- Sunderland Renaissance ( talk) 00:06, 17 February 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Bbb23: What are the conditions under which one can request a CU? I thought it was standard procedure for cases which are not open and shut like this one. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 17:01, 18 February 2022 (UTC) @ Bbb23: Thank you! Can you point me to the policy/guidelines for these three points: "To make a convincing case for requesting CU, you'd have to attempt to sort out the confusion. Regardless of that, if you change the status of a case, you must explain why and not in an edit summary. It's similar to adding a sock to a case - you can't do so without providing evidence of the added sock." I would like to learn more about this. For whats its worth I don't think any of the named accounts above are Sunderland Renaissance/Antonian Sapphire. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 17:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Bbb23: thank you for the info. I think however you misinterpreted "named" to mean listed when I meant named as in named user vs IP. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 18:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply

I was interested in the process of this editing war, so I read the history. As I have set Strike out usernames that have been blocked in Special:Preferences,I quickly noticed there had some blocked IPs or accounts were frequently active in Genocide denial.20:57, 23 June 2021 to 23:56, 12 July 2021,23 June 2021 to 23:56, 12 July 2021 has the highest activity rate.If there is no PROXY or accounts like Conyeetol who only edited Genocide denial, I might not think about the issue of sock puppets.By the way, I have the impression that users from PRC are difficult to edit if they don't use PROXY. So they are used to or good at using PROXY.

PS:I'm here now because Bbb23's message.Then I removed the part that not related to the edit war.At least this page copied from WP:AN/3RR-- Rastinition ( talk) 18:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Antonian Sapphire.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 01:35, 17 February 2022 (UTC) reply

  • @ Horse Eye's Back: As far as I'm concerned, this is a very messy, poorly presented, scatter-shot report. To make a convincing case for requesting CU, you'd have to attempt to sort out the confusion. Regardless of that, if you change the status of a case, you must explain why and not in an edit summary. It's similar to adding a sock to a case - you can't do so without providing evidence of the added sock. In this particular case, I would not request a CU. Leave it to a clerk to sort it out. If the clerk wants to endorse a check, they can-- Bbb23 ( talk) 17:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply
  • I see a bunch of people taking the same side in an edit war. That's not unusual on a high-profile, controversial page like this one. No evidence has been presented to show that these are actually the same people as opposed to different people who share the same position in a content dispute. Closing without action. (Thucydides411 is the oldest account, but considering the standard of evidence presented here, I'm not sure it is worth moving). Spicy ( talk) 13:29, 20 February 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Since there was no finding of wrongoing here, moved to oldest blocked account. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 18:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC) reply

06 December 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

This is for procedural logs only, stewards action indicated some socks were not blocked here. I suspected there are more sleepers. Whether use CU tools depending on clerks and CUs. The debating of unlocking this user is hot on meta wiki, so if they are unlocked, please block locally. Lemonaka ( talk) 01:07, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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@ Lemonaka: Where is this discussion on Meta? — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 01:08, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
On m:user_talk:AmandaNP Lemonaka ( talk) 01:09, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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20 February 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

For record only, some editors on meta suspect this is a impersonation. If clerks suspect there are more socks, or this is another LTA or something or something, please endorse a CU. Otherwise please close this without action. Lemonaka ( talk) 22:42, 20 February 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Tamzin. My worry has come true. Now this is really a case that include off/on wiki abuse and unstoppable abuse. Lemonaka ( talk) 01:40, 21 February 2023 (UTC) reply

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  • Already looked into on a different request.  Confirmed. This is not impersonation, this is socking, point blank. Also  Technically indistinguishable from BoatyBoatface. -- Amanda (she/her) 00:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC) reply

12 May 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

KentuckyPony created Draft:Advanced Bionics one day after the article was G5 deleted. See also the history at Sonova which has been edited by KentuckPony, the master and other socks. S0091 ( talk) 16:31, 12 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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  • The account is stale, but from the editing it seems probably that this is Planespotter - blocked, lock requested. Girth Summit (blether) 12:09, 13 May 2023 (UTC) reply

31 May 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

This seemed to be a Static IP allocated to PlanespotterA320, which was blocked on several projects. Just a note you may want to add to arbcom wiki and no further actions need to be taken. -Lemonaka‎ 01:34, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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  • @ Lemonaka: There is no need to file an SPI against an already-blocked IP. If there's additional information to add about such an IP, you can always contact the blocking admin. Closing. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 04:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

25 October 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Pro forma. -- Blablubbs ( talk) 18:06, 25 October 2023 (UTC) reply

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  •  Confirmed to each other,  Likely to the master.  Blocked and tagged. Closing. -- Blablubbs ( talk) 18:06, 25 October 2023 (UTC) reply

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PlanespotterA320

PlanespotterA320 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log· investigate · cuwiki)

16 February 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

After checking the history of Genocide denial, Genocide denial may have an active sock puppet.

  1. It should the earliest edit warring at Genocide denial.. 03:49, 7 May 2021
  2. PlanespotterA320's edits include deleted === China === and adding === United States ===.

Through WP:duck,these links may prove that they may be related.

Add === United States ===

  1. 102.38.159.75 Proxy IP
  2. 88.166.58.158 Proxy IP
  3. 141.134.226.127 Proxy IP
  4. אברהסה+בו Sock puppet account
  5. 5.38.218.103
  6. PlanespotterA320
  7. Sunderland Renaissance

Deleted === China ===

  1. Thucydides411 16:01, 17 February 2022
  2. Conyeetol0 3 edit in en.wikipedia.org.
  3. HanKim20 74 edit in en.wikipedia.org. 07:13, 7 May 2021
  4. Sunderland Renaissance.

My opinion:Probably because he is dissatisfied with China being added to the Genocide denial(03:49, 7 May 2021 and 07:13, 7 May 2021), so he wants to add the United States to the Genocide denial.-- Rastinition ( talk) 23:17, 16 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

As an accused party, I am happy to affirm my innocence by fully cooperating with this investigation in good faith. I am willing to voluntarily request a checkuser in order to confirm I have no affiliation with any of the above accounts, and likewise bar the article in question my areas of editing and portfolio are completely different to the above. The reason I am being accused of such is because on Genocide Denial I re=added some content which was removed by Amigao as part of a dispute with him, as I believe he is engaging in widespread POV editing. I have been accused of being a "sleeper account"- but this is false as I have a long term consistent pattern of constructive editing on a dedicated and unique field of topics. Otherwise, I have nothing to hide- Sunderland Renaissance ( talk) 00:06, 17 February 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Bbb23: What are the conditions under which one can request a CU? I thought it was standard procedure for cases which are not open and shut like this one. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 17:01, 18 February 2022 (UTC) @ Bbb23: Thank you! Can you point me to the policy/guidelines for these three points: "To make a convincing case for requesting CU, you'd have to attempt to sort out the confusion. Regardless of that, if you change the status of a case, you must explain why and not in an edit summary. It's similar to adding a sock to a case - you can't do so without providing evidence of the added sock." I would like to learn more about this. For whats its worth I don't think any of the named accounts above are Sunderland Renaissance/Antonian Sapphire. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 17:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Bbb23: thank you for the info. I think however you misinterpreted "named" to mean listed when I meant named as in named user vs IP. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 18:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply

I was interested in the process of this editing war, so I read the history. As I have set Strike out usernames that have been blocked in Special:Preferences,I quickly noticed there had some blocked IPs or accounts were frequently active in Genocide denial.20:57, 23 June 2021 to 23:56, 12 July 2021,23 June 2021 to 23:56, 12 July 2021 has the highest activity rate.If there is no PROXY or accounts like Conyeetol who only edited Genocide denial, I might not think about the issue of sock puppets.By the way, I have the impression that users from PRC are difficult to edit if they don't use PROXY. So they are used to or good at using PROXY.

PS:I'm here now because Bbb23's message.Then I removed the part that not related to the edit war.At least this page copied from WP:AN/3RR-- Rastinition ( talk) 18:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Antonian Sapphire.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 01:35, 17 February 2022 (UTC) reply

  • @ Horse Eye's Back: As far as I'm concerned, this is a very messy, poorly presented, scatter-shot report. To make a convincing case for requesting CU, you'd have to attempt to sort out the confusion. Regardless of that, if you change the status of a case, you must explain why and not in an edit summary. It's similar to adding a sock to a case - you can't do so without providing evidence of the added sock. In this particular case, I would not request a CU. Leave it to a clerk to sort it out. If the clerk wants to endorse a check, they can-- Bbb23 ( talk) 17:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply
  • I see a bunch of people taking the same side in an edit war. That's not unusual on a high-profile, controversial page like this one. No evidence has been presented to show that these are actually the same people as opposed to different people who share the same position in a content dispute. Closing without action. (Thucydides411 is the oldest account, but considering the standard of evidence presented here, I'm not sure it is worth moving). Spicy ( talk) 13:29, 20 February 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Since there was no finding of wrongoing here, moved to oldest blocked account. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 18:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC) reply

06 December 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

This is for procedural logs only, stewards action indicated some socks were not blocked here. I suspected there are more sleepers. Whether use CU tools depending on clerks and CUs. The debating of unlocking this user is hot on meta wiki, so if they are unlocked, please block locally. Lemonaka ( talk) 01:07, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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@ Lemonaka: Where is this discussion on Meta? — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 01:08, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
On m:user_talk:AmandaNP Lemonaka ( talk) 01:09, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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20 February 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

For record only, some editors on meta suspect this is a impersonation. If clerks suspect there are more socks, or this is another LTA or something or something, please endorse a CU. Otherwise please close this without action. Lemonaka ( talk) 22:42, 20 February 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Tamzin. My worry has come true. Now this is really a case that include off/on wiki abuse and unstoppable abuse. Lemonaka ( talk) 01:40, 21 February 2023 (UTC) reply

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  • Already looked into on a different request.  Confirmed. This is not impersonation, this is socking, point blank. Also  Technically indistinguishable from BoatyBoatface. -- Amanda (she/her) 00:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC) reply

12 May 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

KentuckyPony created Draft:Advanced Bionics one day after the article was G5 deleted. See also the history at Sonova which has been edited by KentuckPony, the master and other socks. S0091 ( talk) 16:31, 12 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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  • The account is stale, but from the editing it seems probably that this is Planespotter - blocked, lock requested. Girth Summit (blether) 12:09, 13 May 2023 (UTC) reply

31 May 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

This seemed to be a Static IP allocated to PlanespotterA320, which was blocked on several projects. Just a note you may want to add to arbcom wiki and no further actions need to be taken. -Lemonaka‎ 01:34, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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  • @ Lemonaka: There is no need to file an SPI against an already-blocked IP. If there's additional information to add about such an IP, you can always contact the blocking admin. Closing. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 04:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

25 October 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Pro forma. -- Blablubbs ( talk) 18:06, 25 October 2023 (UTC) reply

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  •  Confirmed to each other,  Likely to the master.  Blocked and tagged. Closing. -- Blablubbs ( talk) 18:06, 25 October 2023 (UTC) reply


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