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Organizational logo, not necessarily uploaders to re-license.
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This image is clearly a scan of an older photograph, and not self-published as claimed. No other authorship information is provided. First publication was only in 1977, making it more likely that the original is still under copyright. SuperMarioMan 20:49, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
There is a comment on the
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Unlikely to be self-published – probably scanned from a book. If so, and due to the sparse source information, the copyright status of the original is impossible to verify. SuperMarioMan 21:09, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
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Derivative work of non-free photograph.
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It is a free photograph, released under CC-BY-SA 2.0.
[1] See "Additional info" to the lower right and click on "some rights reserved" beneath it – you get a copy of the CC license, which I'd linked in the upload forms.
Avian appreciator (
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There is no evidence that the Flickr uploader (June Bugowski) had permission from the photographer (
Michael Dweck) to publish his photo under the indicated licence. --
Stefan2 (
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It is plainly Dweck's own photo site, and he keeps changing his username for whatever reason. It was "curlymancan" when I uploaded them.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 22:04, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Flickr source says the account is "Michael Dweck". Evidently, the images belong to Dweck. I don't see any female "June Bugowski". --
Swiss Mister in NY (
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That suggests the name on the Flickr site has been changed recently, possibly in response to this discussion. We still need verification that the account belongs to Michael Dweck.
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It is a free photograph, released under CC-BY-SA 2.0.
[2] See "Additional info" to the lower right and click on "some rights reserved" beneath it – you get a copy of the CC license, which I'd linked in the upload forms. It should, however, be retitled File:Michael Dweck Art Basel.jpg, that was a typo and the interface wouldn't allow me to change it after having uploaded it.
Avian appreciator (
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There is no evidence that the Flickr uploader (June Bugowski) had permission from the photographer (
Michael Dweck) to publish his photo under the indicated licence. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 22:00, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
It is plainly Dweck's own photo site, and he keeps changing his username for whatever reason. It was "curlymancan" when I uploaded them.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 22:05, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Flickr source says the account is "Michael Dweck". Evidently, the images belong to Dweck. I don't see any female "June Bugowski". --
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Derivative work of non-free poster.
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It is a free photograph, released under CC-BY-SA 2.0.
[3] See "Additional info" to the lower right and click on "some rights reserved" beneath it – you get a copy of the CC license, which I'd linked in the upload forms.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 21:54, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
There is no evidence that the Flickr uploader (June Bugowski) had permission from the photographer (
Michael Dweck) to publish his photo under the indicated licence. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 22:00, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
It is plainly Dweck's own photo site, and he keeps changing his username for whatever reason. It was "curlymancan" when I uploaded them.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 22:05, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Flickr source says the account is "Michael Dweck". Evidently, the images belong to Dweck. I don't see any female "June Bugowski". --
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Historical marker is copyrighted. No
freedom of panorama for this in the U.S. Doesn't matter what the photographer licenses it under.
Ramaksoud2000(Talk to me) 21:26, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was: Resolved: old version deleted.
Writ Keeper⚇♔ 19:19, 19 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Contains 3D stuff around the page, so permission is needed from the photographer.
Stefan2 (
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The allegedly offending image is a picture of a page in an book published in 1865 (public domain). Just taking a picture of an old item or work in public domain isn't sufficiently original to be copyrightable, per US law Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp., 36 F. Supp. 2d 191 (S.D.N.Y. 1999) (as indicated on the picture's page). Whitman Archive--the source of the image--allows its images to be freely distributed and adapted as long as attribution is given (as is already given). There is no "possibly unfree" issue about this image.--
ColonelHenry (
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If I clipped the image to just to the area of the page, which would be 2D, and since the Whitman Archive allows adaptations, then uploaded the photo, would that be acceptable? The 3D part of the image is just the 24 pages behind the one being shown (something that happens on photocopiers and scanners). It's not an artistic depiction of the book, it's just an unoriginal photo focusing on that page, and the background just happens to be there as an accident of how the book is opened to that page. I think you're being a little needlessly overcautious in your analysis of this photograph and calling this a "3D" depiction of what is essentially equivalent to scanning or photocopying the book is a exaggerated stretch.--
ColonelHenry (
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If the 3D parts are removed, then it would be fine, yes. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 00:58, 16 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Cropped and the new version uploaded. Please review.--
ColonelHenry (
talk) 04:03, 16 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Looks OK. The old revision needs to be deleted, though. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 00:34, 18 December 2013 (UTC)reply
I don't know how to do that. If you can, teach me.--
ColonelHenry (
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The old revision has been deleted.--
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Organizational logo, not necessarily uploaders to re-license.
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This image is clearly a scan of an older photograph, and not self-published as claimed. No other authorship information is provided. First publication was only in 1977, making it more likely that the original is still under copyright. SuperMarioMan 20:49, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
There is a comment on the
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Unlikely to be self-published – probably scanned from a book. If so, and due to the sparse source information, the copyright status of the original is impossible to verify. SuperMarioMan 21:09, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
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Derivative work of non-free photograph.
Stefan2 (
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It is a free photograph, released under CC-BY-SA 2.0.
[1] See "Additional info" to the lower right and click on "some rights reserved" beneath it – you get a copy of the CC license, which I'd linked in the upload forms.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 21:51, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
There is no evidence that the Flickr uploader (June Bugowski) had permission from the photographer (
Michael Dweck) to publish his photo under the indicated licence. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 22:00, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
It is plainly Dweck's own photo site, and he keeps changing his username for whatever reason. It was "curlymancan" when I uploaded them.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 22:04, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Flickr source says the account is "Michael Dweck". Evidently, the images belong to Dweck. I don't see any female "June Bugowski". --
Swiss Mister in NY (
talk) 13:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)reply
That suggests the name on the Flickr site has been changed recently, possibly in response to this discussion. We still need verification that the account belongs to Michael Dweck.
January (
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It is a free photograph, released under CC-BY-SA 2.0.
[2] See "Additional info" to the lower right and click on "some rights reserved" beneath it – you get a copy of the CC license, which I'd linked in the upload forms. It should, however, be retitled File:Michael Dweck Art Basel.jpg, that was a typo and the interface wouldn't allow me to change it after having uploaded it.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 21:53, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
There is no evidence that the Flickr uploader (June Bugowski) had permission from the photographer (
Michael Dweck) to publish his photo under the indicated licence. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 22:00, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
It is plainly Dweck's own photo site, and he keeps changing his username for whatever reason. It was "curlymancan" when I uploaded them.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 22:05, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Flickr source says the account is "Michael Dweck". Evidently, the images belong to Dweck. I don't see any female "June Bugowski". --
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Derivative work of non-free poster.
Stefan2 (
talk) 21:22, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
It is a free photograph, released under CC-BY-SA 2.0.
[3] See "Additional info" to the lower right and click on "some rights reserved" beneath it – you get a copy of the CC license, which I'd linked in the upload forms.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 21:54, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
There is no evidence that the Flickr uploader (June Bugowski) had permission from the photographer (
Michael Dweck) to publish his photo under the indicated licence. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 22:00, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
It is plainly Dweck's own photo site, and he keeps changing his username for whatever reason. It was "curlymancan" when I uploaded them.
Avian appreciator (
talk) 22:05, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Flickr source says the account is "Michael Dweck". Evidently, the images belong to Dweck. I don't see any female "June Bugowski". --
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Historical marker is copyrighted. No
freedom of panorama for this in the U.S. Doesn't matter what the photographer licenses it under.
Ramaksoud2000(Talk to me) 21:26, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was: Resolved: old version deleted.
Writ Keeper⚇♔ 19:19, 19 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Contains 3D stuff around the page, so permission is needed from the photographer.
Stefan2 (
talk) 22:04, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
The allegedly offending image is a picture of a page in an book published in 1865 (public domain). Just taking a picture of an old item or work in public domain isn't sufficiently original to be copyrightable, per US law Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp., 36 F. Supp. 2d 191 (S.D.N.Y. 1999) (as indicated on the picture's page). Whitman Archive--the source of the image--allows its images to be freely distributed and adapted as long as attribution is given (as is already given). There is no "possibly unfree" issue about this image.--
ColonelHenry (
talk) 22:23, 15 December 2013 (UTC)reply
If I clipped the image to just to the area of the page, which would be 2D, and since the Whitman Archive allows adaptations, then uploaded the photo, would that be acceptable? The 3D part of the image is just the 24 pages behind the one being shown (something that happens on photocopiers and scanners). It's not an artistic depiction of the book, it's just an unoriginal photo focusing on that page, and the background just happens to be there as an accident of how the book is opened to that page. I think you're being a little needlessly overcautious in your analysis of this photograph and calling this a "3D" depiction of what is essentially equivalent to scanning or photocopying the book is a exaggerated stretch.--
ColonelHenry (
talk) 00:25, 16 December 2013 (UTC)reply
If the 3D parts are removed, then it would be fine, yes. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 00:58, 16 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Cropped and the new version uploaded. Please review.--
ColonelHenry (
talk) 04:03, 16 December 2013 (UTC)reply
Looks OK. The old revision needs to be deleted, though. --
Stefan2 (
talk) 00:34, 18 December 2013 (UTC)reply
I don't know how to do that. If you can, teach me.--
ColonelHenry (
talk) 22:11, 18 December 2013 (UTC)reply
The old revision has been deleted.--
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