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Done – Novem Linguae ( talk) 08:59, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Request taken by M.Bitton ( talk) 18:12, 22 July 2022 (UTC).
Done M.Bitton ( talk) 17:27, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
COVID-19 pandemic in Tennessee
The 4 maps in this article's Template:infobox pandemic are woefully out-of-date. The last time these maps were updated was February 2021 and March 2021. Please could someone here, with much more expertise than myself, PLEASE update them to June 2022 info? The 4 maps are all hosted on Commons, they are as follows:
The most recent information can be found at the following sources:
Thanks in advance - Shearonink ( talk) 17:30, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
AlphaMikeOmega
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talk) 12:00, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
AlphaMikeOmega
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talk) 01:15, 17 June 2022 (UTC)Request taken by M.Bitton ( talk) 15:52, 16 June 2022 (UTC).
Right no there aren't any good quality maps of the physical geography of the Iberian peninsula. While there is a good quality physical map of Spain (this one: Reliefkarte_Spanien.png) there are not any good quality maps without the France and Portugal international borders. This would be very useful for articles that deal with ancient times, as well as purely geographical topics. In order to serve as a location map, it should probably have the same limits as this and this. 44.4° N - 34.7° N, 9.9° W - 4.8° E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serg!o ( talk • contribs)
Please do NOT include cancelled pipelines as that would make the map too complicated. The following pipelines could be included:
Trans-Anatolian gas pipeline with connections to Greece and Bulgaria
TurkStream and connection to Trans-Balkan pipeline
Both the above pipelines can send to both Greece and Bulgaria so please show this schematically - no need to show exact routes in Thrace
Tabriz–Ankara pipeline which is shown here middle right
Please allow for easy addition of Iraq if it ever happens
The following facilities could be shown:
Sakarya gas field which is here and Filyos Natural-gas Processing Plant and pipeline between them (maybe dashed to show under construction)
Marmara Ereğlisi LNG Import Terminal and connecting pipeline
The following storage locations could be shown IF does not make map too busy:
Please make such that all the words are easy to translate. As well as Black Sea, Ankara, Istanbul the pipelines could have a symbol to show direction of flow (only Trans-Balkan is reversible but if looks confusing please show flow going north) and symbol (arrow?) to show country/region coming from or going to namely Azerbaijan, Iran, Greece and Italy, Balkans.
Could the pipelines and facilities be clickable links to the articles?
Chidgk1 ( talk) 13:29, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
There is a lot of description above but it is not actually complicated so I don't think it would be difficult for you. Would it help if I uploaded a rough sketch? Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:43, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Bumping thread. Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC) Please - it is fairly topical now with the news about Russia cutting off Bulgaria - so I think your work would get a lot of views. News reports such as https://eurasianet.org/southeast-europe-looks-to-azerbaijan-to-replace-russian-gas are already using maps from Wikimedia Commons but I am sure you can do much better. Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks Berrely Any improvement you can make is welcome however small. Rather than an additive process as I first described an alternative possibility is for you to do a subtractive process on the very poor graphic I have knocked up (see right) and put in the article now called Oil_and_gas_in_Turkey#Transmission_and_storage . If that is easier for you then it might be improved by:
1) Remove all islands
2) Remove all lakes
3) Remove all frontiers which are not Turkish
4) Make the left hand texts "Greece to ...." clearer - not quite sure how - perhaps by cropping down the middle of the Aegean to cut out complex coastline
5) Add arrows to show flow is east to west (except the ships which are northwards in the Aegean Sea)
6) Enable easy translation
It is up to you -perhaps you prefer to start from scratch. No rush as although I have nominated the article for "good" I expect it will be weeks or months before anyone reviews it. Any questions or comments please shout on my talk page as I don't think there is a way I can just watch this section. Chidgk1 ( talk) 17:24, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely The interconnector from Greece to Bulgaria is expected to open in July https://www.rferl.org/a/bulgaria-life-after-russian-gas/31860510.html so I think it would be reasonable to leave "Bulgaria" in the text as hopefully it will be flowing by the time someone gets to review the article for "good". But if you prefer to be immediately correct then remove it but please write a note to explain how I can add it back - thanks Chidgk1 ( talk) 19:08, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely Firstly thanks for responding so quickly - as you are so responsive I will add this to my watchlist and check here in future (feel free to prompt me on my talk page as well if I don't respond).
I looked at both your drafts and I think your idea on the first draft of adding the BTC oil pipeline is good. In order to clearly distinguish oil and gas I wonder if all the gas pipelines should be yellow and the oil pipeline black - would that look clear do you think?
Gas field - If pipelines yellow then perhaps the gas field should also be yellow? I think we need clarity rather than complete geographical accuracy - so the map can be somewhat schematic like the London tube map. So in order to avoid confusion between the gas field and Turkstream I suggest moving the field slightly south and maybe putting its name below it.
Add pipeline from gas field to Filyos
Suggest a lot of simplification (open to your comments/suggestions):
crop N edge to just S of Crimea
crop W edge to somewhere in Aegean Sea
crop S edge to just N of Cyprus
Remove diagonal stripes
Remove all islands, all rivers, all lakes, all frontiers which are not Turkish (to forestall irrelevant Azerbaijan Armenia frontier arguments)
Remove all geographical names except: Greece, Turkey, Iran, Russia, Ankara, Istanbul, Black Sea, Caspian Sea
Add Shah Deniz gas field also labelled Azerbaijan maybe in brackets and connect to pipeline (might need to add a Turkmen Caspian Sea field in future - not sure yet if they will connect and if so via Az or Iran)
Remove the short branch of TANAP
Do you think an icon of a LNG ship coming from Algeria would make sense or just confuse?
Change scale to km (or if difficult remove)
Continue Turkstream and TANAP to W edge of map but without crossing each other
Off or near the W edge of map write that Turkstream supplies Italy, Serbia and Hungary
Off or near the W edge of map write that TANAP supplies Italy, Bulgaria and Albania
Add a few small arrows to show direction of flow Chidgk1 ( talk) 15:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely I just found Kirkuk–Ceyhan Oil Pipeline - please could you add that and leave the word "Iraq" on the map Chidgk1 ( talk) 16:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely With some more digging around I found that https://www.gem.wiki/Tabriz-Ankara_Pipeline have cited Tabriz–Ankara pipeline to say that "In Erzurum, the Tabriz-Ankara Pipeline is linked to the South Caucasus Pipeline" whereas our article has no cite. https://www.swp-berlin.org/en/publication/turkey-and-european-energy-insecurity seems to be clear that the Iranian gas does not go to Europe. So I think we should draw the pipeline schematically as clearly not connected to TANAP Chidgk1 ( talk) 18:48, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely Actually it will be easier for reader if we just label as Southern Gas Corridor rather than TANAP and South Caucasus Pipeline Chidgk1 ( talk) 19:01, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely I just found a map at https://enerji.gov.tr/bilgi-merkezi-haritalar which is obviously much more detailed than we need but can presumably be cited as the source of the info? Chidgk1 ( talk) 07:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Ahmet Q.: I've had a look at the cited maps (namely [6] and [7]) and I can see what appears to be a problem: the borders of the municipal units do not align with those of the municipalities. Am I mistaken in assuming that they should? M.Bitton ( talk) 14:02, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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Done – Novem Linguae ( talk) 08:59, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Request taken by M.Bitton ( talk) 18:12, 22 July 2022 (UTC).
Done M.Bitton ( talk) 17:27, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
COVID-19 pandemic in Tennessee
The 4 maps in this article's Template:infobox pandemic are woefully out-of-date. The last time these maps were updated was February 2021 and March 2021. Please could someone here, with much more expertise than myself, PLEASE update them to June 2022 info? The 4 maps are all hosted on Commons, they are as follows:
The most recent information can be found at the following sources:
Thanks in advance - Shearonink ( talk) 17:30, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
AlphaMikeOmega
(
talk) 12:00, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
AlphaMikeOmega
(
talk) 01:15, 17 June 2022 (UTC)Request taken by M.Bitton ( talk) 15:52, 16 June 2022 (UTC).
Right no there aren't any good quality maps of the physical geography of the Iberian peninsula. While there is a good quality physical map of Spain (this one: Reliefkarte_Spanien.png) there are not any good quality maps without the France and Portugal international borders. This would be very useful for articles that deal with ancient times, as well as purely geographical topics. In order to serve as a location map, it should probably have the same limits as this and this. 44.4° N - 34.7° N, 9.9° W - 4.8° E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serg!o ( talk • contribs)
Please do NOT include cancelled pipelines as that would make the map too complicated. The following pipelines could be included:
Trans-Anatolian gas pipeline with connections to Greece and Bulgaria
TurkStream and connection to Trans-Balkan pipeline
Both the above pipelines can send to both Greece and Bulgaria so please show this schematically - no need to show exact routes in Thrace
Tabriz–Ankara pipeline which is shown here middle right
Please allow for easy addition of Iraq if it ever happens
The following facilities could be shown:
Sakarya gas field which is here and Filyos Natural-gas Processing Plant and pipeline between them (maybe dashed to show under construction)
Marmara Ereğlisi LNG Import Terminal and connecting pipeline
The following storage locations could be shown IF does not make map too busy:
Please make such that all the words are easy to translate. As well as Black Sea, Ankara, Istanbul the pipelines could have a symbol to show direction of flow (only Trans-Balkan is reversible but if looks confusing please show flow going north) and symbol (arrow?) to show country/region coming from or going to namely Azerbaijan, Iran, Greece and Italy, Balkans.
Could the pipelines and facilities be clickable links to the articles?
Chidgk1 ( talk) 13:29, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
There is a lot of description above but it is not actually complicated so I don't think it would be difficult for you. Would it help if I uploaded a rough sketch? Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:43, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Bumping thread. Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC) Please - it is fairly topical now with the news about Russia cutting off Bulgaria - so I think your work would get a lot of views. News reports such as https://eurasianet.org/southeast-europe-looks-to-azerbaijan-to-replace-russian-gas are already using maps from Wikimedia Commons but I am sure you can do much better. Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks Berrely Any improvement you can make is welcome however small. Rather than an additive process as I first described an alternative possibility is for you to do a subtractive process on the very poor graphic I have knocked up (see right) and put in the article now called Oil_and_gas_in_Turkey#Transmission_and_storage . If that is easier for you then it might be improved by:
1) Remove all islands
2) Remove all lakes
3) Remove all frontiers which are not Turkish
4) Make the left hand texts "Greece to ...." clearer - not quite sure how - perhaps by cropping down the middle of the Aegean to cut out complex coastline
5) Add arrows to show flow is east to west (except the ships which are northwards in the Aegean Sea)
6) Enable easy translation
It is up to you -perhaps you prefer to start from scratch. No rush as although I have nominated the article for "good" I expect it will be weeks or months before anyone reviews it. Any questions or comments please shout on my talk page as I don't think there is a way I can just watch this section. Chidgk1 ( talk) 17:24, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely The interconnector from Greece to Bulgaria is expected to open in July https://www.rferl.org/a/bulgaria-life-after-russian-gas/31860510.html so I think it would be reasonable to leave "Bulgaria" in the text as hopefully it will be flowing by the time someone gets to review the article for "good". But if you prefer to be immediately correct then remove it but please write a note to explain how I can add it back - thanks Chidgk1 ( talk) 19:08, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely Firstly thanks for responding so quickly - as you are so responsive I will add this to my watchlist and check here in future (feel free to prompt me on my talk page as well if I don't respond).
I looked at both your drafts and I think your idea on the first draft of adding the BTC oil pipeline is good. In order to clearly distinguish oil and gas I wonder if all the gas pipelines should be yellow and the oil pipeline black - would that look clear do you think?
Gas field - If pipelines yellow then perhaps the gas field should also be yellow? I think we need clarity rather than complete geographical accuracy - so the map can be somewhat schematic like the London tube map. So in order to avoid confusion between the gas field and Turkstream I suggest moving the field slightly south and maybe putting its name below it.
Add pipeline from gas field to Filyos
Suggest a lot of simplification (open to your comments/suggestions):
crop N edge to just S of Crimea
crop W edge to somewhere in Aegean Sea
crop S edge to just N of Cyprus
Remove diagonal stripes
Remove all islands, all rivers, all lakes, all frontiers which are not Turkish (to forestall irrelevant Azerbaijan Armenia frontier arguments)
Remove all geographical names except: Greece, Turkey, Iran, Russia, Ankara, Istanbul, Black Sea, Caspian Sea
Add Shah Deniz gas field also labelled Azerbaijan maybe in brackets and connect to pipeline (might need to add a Turkmen Caspian Sea field in future - not sure yet if they will connect and if so via Az or Iran)
Remove the short branch of TANAP
Do you think an icon of a LNG ship coming from Algeria would make sense or just confuse?
Change scale to km (or if difficult remove)
Continue Turkstream and TANAP to W edge of map but without crossing each other
Off or near the W edge of map write that Turkstream supplies Italy, Serbia and Hungary
Off or near the W edge of map write that TANAP supplies Italy, Bulgaria and Albania
Add a few small arrows to show direction of flow Chidgk1 ( talk) 15:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely I just found Kirkuk–Ceyhan Oil Pipeline - please could you add that and leave the word "Iraq" on the map Chidgk1 ( talk) 16:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely With some more digging around I found that https://www.gem.wiki/Tabriz-Ankara_Pipeline have cited Tabriz–Ankara pipeline to say that "In Erzurum, the Tabriz-Ankara Pipeline is linked to the South Caucasus Pipeline" whereas our article has no cite. https://www.swp-berlin.org/en/publication/turkey-and-european-energy-insecurity seems to be clear that the Iranian gas does not go to Europe. So I think we should draw the pipeline schematically as clearly not connected to TANAP Chidgk1 ( talk) 18:48, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely Actually it will be easier for reader if we just label as Southern Gas Corridor rather than TANAP and South Caucasus Pipeline Chidgk1 ( talk) 19:01, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Berrely I just found a map at https://enerji.gov.tr/bilgi-merkezi-haritalar which is obviously much more detailed than we need but can presumably be cited as the source of the info? Chidgk1 ( talk) 07:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Ahmet Q.: I've had a look at the cited maps (namely [6] and [7]) and I can see what appears to be a problem: the borders of the municipal units do not align with those of the municipalities. Am I mistaken in assuming that they should? M.Bitton ( talk) 14:02, 6 June 2022 (UTC)